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Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.10.28 12:53:00 -
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Tenchi Sal wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote: I sayz stuff... When I do venture into nullsec, this is what I see....not much. For every 5 empty systems I might see 1 with a couple of people traversing another. For every 20 empty systems I might see 1 with a population above 5. IDK. Seems like null might be suffering from a lack of people. I've heard nullsec'ers complain about that very fact. If it's true then one must ask "Why?". Perhaps its for reasons I've already outlined. Whatever the reason, perhaps what we need to recognize is the possible changing of the face of Eve from being null-centric with huge lagging fleet battles with trillions of isk/tens of thousands of RL dollars at risk, to something more manageable for the masses. And maybe, that's why Mittani is having his tantrum? Maybe ganking defenseless ice miners is his way of saying "NOTICE US......please....we're really bored out here, someone come play with US". Null sec did it to themselves.
^This.
 This week is completely ******... first I'm agreeing with TEST guys, then a Goon, now Mr. Kidd...
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Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
48
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Posted - 2011.10.28 13:15:00 -
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Quote:FA is in a pretty good place these days...you should have stuck it out with them instead of getting run off by the evil afk cloakers. They have been flourishing now that they aren't being treated like serfs by the old NC.
Yeah until their "leader" (and the quotes are there for a good reason) screws them over again by acting like a complete numpty. It has happened before and I have no doubt it has happened again. You don't keep good corps in your alliiance by acting like a 12-year old boy with self-esteem and ego problems.
-The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it!
Other names: Drenzul (WoT, WoW, Lineage 2, WarH, BloodBowl, BSG, SC2 and lots more)-á |
Zelda Wei
New Horizon Trade Exchange
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Posted - 2011.10.28 13:18:00 -
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6/10
I like a good conspiracy theory troll as much as anybody but they need to be realistic you are giving him way too much credit. It's been revealed time and time again that he really ain't this smart.
The reality of the current situation, is the Goons are just too scared to go up against the DRF. |
Russell Casey
One Ton
Reverberation Project
53
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Posted - 2011.10.28 13:47:00 -
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All this tells me is that some people are so wrapped up in EVE's meta-game that it's starting to warp their perceptions of reality.
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Tore Vest
Vikinghall
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Posted - 2011.10.28 13:54:00 -
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What scares me most is that CCP listen to Mittens....
Nerfing supers... and now probably bufing security in highsec.
CCP... you scare me |
Ana Vyr
99
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Posted - 2011.10.28 14:19:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:I'm beginning to think that The Mittani's agenda is scorched earth.
It is ever thus.
This is their stated purpose in every game they inhabit. Sandboxes just allow them to get further along with their agenda.
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Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
226
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Posted - 2011.10.28 14:22:00 -
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HELIC0N ONE wrote:
I think he's the guy pressing CCP to nerf technetium moons (which is GSF's main source of income), fleet lag (which GSFs main fleet doctrine is designed to work in) and supercaps (which GSF and their allies are one of the major holders of).
No making sense.
This is a tinfoil hat zone.
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Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
12
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Posted - 2011.10.28 14:27:00 -
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The Apostle wrote: Thinks the ice interdictio has something to do with capitals
rofl
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stoicfaux
338
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Posted - 2011.10.28 14:29:00 -
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I think the OP suffers from the assumption that "being a ****" means "having a big ****" to swing around.
Mittani's antics are an amusing fad. No reason to take them so seriously.
Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
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Nex apparatu5
Not a Shell Corp
19
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Posted - 2011.10.28 14:44:00 -
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When Mittens gets reelected the tears will be delicious. |
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Botleten
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.28 15:03:00 -
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I wonder whether Stanziel and Apostle are secretly some goon's alt meant to spew out such stupid and ridiculous **** that it actually helps to increase the popularity of Mittens by making his detractors seems far less intelligent by comparison. If this is the case, theyre succeeding wonderfully. |
Reislier
20
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Posted - 2011.10.28 15:05:00 -
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Lots of conspiracy theories here.. and here's mine 
It does seem that high sec is evolving into something more in favor of the high sec dwellers.. whatever..
Past history suggests this is not the preference of CCP Hilmar, but this is October and CCP accounts receivables necessarily have a significant voice today. Now that is not theory.
A conspiracy theorist.. like me.. might suggest that the campaigns in high sec are theater to mitigate the outrage that some may feel toward what they consider "dumbing down the game". If subscription income from high sec is a significant block of revenue.. and it is.. then.. if it was me. I would step in with my godly dev powers and smite all of you back to wagons and horses. That is why my wife tells me I should not own guns.
But CCP.. what would they do? Is preferable to not outrage any more than is absolutly necessary. I do hope they have been studying the finesse books that all of us should have been posting them.
Why not manufacture threats to high sec to provide justification to step in to alter game mechanics in favor of the highest revenue block of players? Direct intervention would be like screaming fire in a dark theater so enlisting the aid of an influential resident sociopath (no offense) to upset the villiagers migh be plausable..
So.. it's obvious.
High sec subscriptions count. "what? don't leave."
High sec customers are profitable. "CCP needs moar monies."
CCP Hilmar is doing Mittani. "do something that I can't do.. huggie muffin."
Mittani threatens high sec. "I don't like them anyway.. my leetle cupcake."
The crowd in null roars.. "moar moar moar."
Now CCP alters high sec mechanics. (we must take care of our high sec customers.. I mean players.)
The crowd in high sec is confused.. "you're being nice to us?"
The crowd in null grumbles.. "well they were getting beat up.. but they should be beat up.)
The crowd in high sec is confused.. "you're being nice to us?"
Expect more in favor of high sec.. they have moar monies.
Maybe toll gates to high sec.
Please empty your pockets into the basket then step thru the scanner.. and yes..
I see that torpedo in your butt.
Makes perfect sense to me this morning.. after my coffee.. possibly not..
If it mattered more to me I might make more sense.
Graphs at CCP will dictate what happens with the politics and mechanics in game.
Anything else is just noise.
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luZk
Jaegerkorpset
10
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Posted - 2011.10.28 15:12:00 -
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Posting in a dark elf thread. |
Igualmentedos
Shadow Veil Industrial
Shadow Directive
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Posted - 2011.10.28 15:33:00 -
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Seriously, both sides need to just shut the **** up.
HTFU "leet pvpers" I'm tired of hearing you ***** and moan about nonconsensual PvP. I'm sorry the EASIEST kills ever (might) be taken away from you.
Miners, stop bitching and moaning, and do something for once.
What is wrong with the Eve community? I've played several MMO's and the amount of crying is nothing like this. I wish CCP would introduce T2 tampons or something.
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De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
55
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Posted - 2011.10.28 15:45:00 -
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This is one of those threads that lowers the collective IQ of the entire human race.
Please, think of the children and stop now.
Unsub or don't.-á I don't care what your reasons are, and neither does anyone else.-á Just click the button and go away - or don't. |
Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings
War Ensemble.
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:00:00 -
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Botleten wrote:I wonder whether Stanziel and Apostle are secretly some goon's alt meant to spew out such stupid and ridiculous **** that it actually helps to increase the popularity of Mittens by making his detractors seems far less intelligent by comparison. If this is the case, theyre succeeding wonderfully.
It's working, I'm probably going to vote for The Mittani next election. People just won't come up with hysterical conspiracy theories for anyone else.
ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com
Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware. |
countertroll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:15:00 -
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OP, you simultaneously say the changes to wardecs end danger and risk in hisec and that the Goons are ganking people in hisec. Congratulations on contradicting yourself. |
Amro One
One.
8
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:24:00 -
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BARBIE WANTS CHOSE Of BRAS TO WEAR FROM THE NeX STORE. |
Ramalama Dingdongdo
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:31:00 -
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I guess I shouldnGÇÖt be surprised when people are either egotistical-attention-getters (oh, oh, letGÇÖs see how much forum action I can generate) or self-serving-ostriches (well that doesnGÇÖt fit my view of the world so IGÇÖll ignore/attack it) GǪ I just canGÇÖt decide if this whole Russian Roulette concept is the former or the latter.
If you consider the EVE sandbox based on a 3-axis model of: high-low play time; high-low risk; and high-low ego GÇô then thereGÇÖs a place for everyone in the EVE universe (OBTW these are human nature factors not EVE Universe factors GÇô how theyGÇÖre implemented makes them EVE Universe) GǪ if youGÇÖre a low-time, low-risk, high-ego GÇô then go build a hi-sec trading/indy/mining corp -> change to high-time, change corp to alliance/empire GǪ if youGÇÖre a high-time, high-risk, high-ego GÇô then go dominate large amounts of real-estate in low/null GǪ but donGÇÖt complain when nobody wants to play with you because you trash them as soon as they enter or space GǪ or GǪ complain about buffing non-consensual pvp in hi-sec that will GÇÿruin the gameGÇÖ.
Sandbox doesnGÇÖt mean GÇÿanything everywhereGÇÖ it means GÇÿanything within the limits/rules of this area of spaceGÇÖ. The concept that carebears should be forced to take more risks or that griefers can get away within anything in hi-sec without consequences negates not enhances the fundamental concepts of the sandbox.
I for one will continue to play EVE as long as the GÇÿanything everywhereGÇÖ homogeneity doesnGÇÖt become the norm GǪ when it does, IGÇÖm outta here.
WRT Goon vs CCP GǪ the non-homogeneous sandbox allows for but doesnGÇÖt force players to confront and repeal the efforts of Goonswarm GǪ the only real question is: when the antics of the goons have reached a point that players are not curbing them AND they are having an impact on the overall real/perceived sandbox GÇô does CCP step-in and do something about it GÇô and this is a moronic question in the first place because obviously CCP will step-in in order to either protect their RL company or for the sack of the wonderful game and concepts they have created that have changed the gaming world. I donGÇÖt care which as long as they do.
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Handsome Hussein
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:38:00 -
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Ramalama Dingdongdo wrote:I guess I shouldnGÇÖt be surprised when people are either egotistical-attention-getters (oh, oh, letGÇÖs see how much forum action I can generate) or self-serving-ostriches (well that doesnGÇÖt fit my view of the world so IGÇÖll ignore/attack it) GǪ I just canGÇÖt decide if this whole Russian Roulette concept is the former or the latter.
Stanziel is most definitely the former.
Oh ****, I'm feeding him... 
Leaves only the fresh scent of pine. |
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:42:00 -
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Rhinanna wrote:So basically, because CCP acknowledged that the War-dec system was screwed and gave people a work until they fix it, that means there is a grand conspiracy......
Why do people assume CCP is going to fix wardec mechanics? They've made no such suggestion at all. If they had any inclination to fix the mechanics, at all, they would have announced that intention when they made their policy change.
And yeah, it's reasonable to assume they have no intention to fix the mechanics since they've been completely mum on the issue for 3 weeks.
EVE Online: Incarna = New Coke.
EVE Online: Winter Expansion = Coke Classic. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
167
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:43:00 -
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HyperZerg wrote:Easy one, remove Concord [or cripple them hard] and eve dies.
Far back in the past [even before my time] there was no Concord. Only few new people arrived. Then they added Concord and the subscriber count "exploded". Do you really thing CCP would remove Concord and kick out half of the eve-population ?
No one is suggesting that CONCORD be removed. It shouldn't be buffed though. There are other things that can be done to make ganking less of an issue than making it downright impossible to do. Remove some of the profitability from ganking (no insurance payout if you're killed by CONCORD, for instance.)
EVE Online: Incarna = New Coke.
EVE Online: Winter Expansion = Coke Classic. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
167
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:47:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:However, your blog does seems to imply that fundamentally changing the "sandbox" to exclude non-consensual PVP as a bad thing for the game. Honestly, I see it as a positive move for the future of the game. There are more successful MMO's out there that cultivate a certain portion of their playerbase as carebears. The more successful MMO's that do this certainly outnumber the MMO's that don't.
Why does EVE suddenly need to be like other MMOs. We have the community we do, because we aren't like other MMOs. We don't need to cookie-cutter it up.
EVE Online: Incarna = New Coke.
EVE Online: Winter Expansion = Coke Classic. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
169
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:58:00 -
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countertroll wrote:OP, you simultaneously say the changes to wardecs end danger and risk in hisec and that the Goons are ganking people in hisec. Congratulations on contradicting yourself.
I said there are only two forms of non-consensual PvP in highsec. The wardec and ganking.
CCP has already "fixed" the wardec mechanic, making non-consensual PvP via that method a dead-end. Now all they have to do is "fix" ganking, and then highsec becomes the risk-free zone that every carebear wants.
EVE Online: Incarna = New Coke.
EVE Online: Winter Expansion = Coke Classic. |
Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings
War Ensemble.
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:59:00 -
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I went to reply to one of these points, but right as I opened the reply window I heard a strange noise coming from outside my window.
Curiously, an orange cat was shrieking at the top of his cat lungs, experiencing a horrific case of shotgun diarrhea, going through at least 8 rounds. The cat then stopped and looked at me, so I went back to reply to an idea again, and lo and behold it started all over again.
I'm sure the condition of that poor animal was not directly related to the existence of this thread.
ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com
Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware. |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange
Fatal Ascension
187
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Posted - 2011.10.28 17:00:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Why does EVE suddenly need to be like other MMOs. We have the community we do, because we aren't like other MMOs. We don't need to cookie-cutter it up.
Why is it they manage to say one smart thing right when you give up hope?
dammit, I wanted to troll this one more too, now I have to wait for the next stupid thing said to move(should be about 30 seconds)
o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist..
KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
34
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Posted - 2011.10.28 17:01:00 -
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Next candidate to get my vote is the one who suggests making null sec gates one-way systems.
AK
GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥
Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.28 17:48:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:... highsec players are surprisingly vocal...
...and numerous.. they are the majority of players in this game.
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
556
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Posted - 2011.10.28 17:51:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:No one is suggesting that CONCORD be removed.
I am. I hate when I'm trying to help some clueless player quit mining by blowing up his mining ship and concord swoops in and blows me up for no reason.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
36
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Posted - 2011.10.28 17:55:00 -
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Red Templar wrote:Lord Mandelor wrote: I'd also like for you to add on my personal theory of how The Mittani has personally been training bears to fly Thrashers for the Red Alliance. That is actually absolutely true. He even trains them to post on boards. Just look at me.
I can see he also pulls their teeth and drill holes in their noses for a leash.
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