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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2011.10.29 01:36:00 -
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Such a shame Goons took the easy route. Destruction takes but an instant. Constructing, improving, that takes more effort, more stamina and better personalities.
Are Goons a reflection on the world? That so many wastes of space can band together to try and spread their misery? CSM do you think? No matter the changes, high sec people chose the safests. Lots of stick and they will leave. Half the problem is the players in null sec; we do not want to be there with you. |

Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
196
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Posted - 2011.10.29 01:38:00 -
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Teamosil wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Well, for one thing you can't actually achieve anything worth mentioning without a large group of people involved, so the people who don't want to be 'peons' condemn themselves to being being cogs who will never be able to achieve fame.
What real reason is there to play eve other than the acclaim of other players? If you say earning isk, I will have to hunt you down. There is no real reason to play any video game. People play video games because they think they are fun. Do you really get more acclaim by being one of 1000 people to do something awesome or to be 1 of a group of 10 people that accomplished something 1% as cool? Or something that is 0.1% as cool that you accomplished solo? Seems you could go both ways on that. On one hand, a lot more people hear about something it takes 1000 players to accomplish than something it takes 10 players to accomplish. But, then again, they probably could have accomplished it just as easily with 999 players, so it's hard to really get too proud about something that you're only 1/1000th of. The acclaim of random dudes you've never met who don't even know your real name may seem like the obvious payout of the game to you, but that's just a personal preference kind of thing. There are lots of other things people enjoy about the game. Figuring out a solution to a problem for yourself and managing to do something you weren't able to do in the past is the main payout for me. I couldn't get that in a big corp really. Anyways, the point is that there are a lot of ways to play the game. That's what makes it fun. Different people with different interests can find niches that suit those interests. All the posters on this forum that spend so much effort arguing "X is the best way to play the game so we should just make everybody play that way" are totally missing the point of the game IMO. It's like demanding that all the tv stations only play one particular show because you are convinced that it is the best show... Sorry, when I fly in a thousand man fleet I make a difference, so my name stands out. Force multipliers and all that. You can also achieve this by FCing, or by being the guy who ran the logistics that kept us all in ships. Its even in the propaganda artist who gets idiots to post stupid ideas about buffing concord or banning goons.
Killing people isn't the measure of acclaim I speak of, its the impact you made. I WAS a dps grunt in the blob at one point. I identified a place I could perform well that would allow me to stand out(in my case, I decided I should fly logi). I am now earning a name for myself, and people are starting to recognize me and know that I will change the flow of battle because I am in their fleet.
One thing people miss about eve is the fact that it is a social game, meaning that the whole point is the interactions of people with each other, not with rocks or funny red crosses. If being a big fish in a small pond is enough, well, honestly, why would that be enough? How can you NOT want to achieve in this game(which means social achievement) yet still want to play it?
And as to the answer that isk is your end goal, what do you plan on doing with that isk? You will never make enough to make anyone at all care, because you aren't actually using it to do anything other than gloat... and I guarantee plenty of people have more. o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |

X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
26
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Posted - 2011.10.29 01:42:00 -
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Richard Hammond II wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote: k, goin back to my first idea: remove CONCORD. Faction status and faction police only. Let the players police themselves. No consequences, space is dangerous.
I agree. Space is dangerous - 200k skillpoint noobs should be griefed in high sec.+1 Seems to be where he guy I quoted is tryin to get things. Um ... they CAN be as is you realize... its called suicide ganking, can flipping, etc etc etc etc I agree, why force a suicide ganker to reship though? Just let him have free reign on the undock.
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elam Bannon
Triton-TC
0
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Posted - 2011.10.29 01:48:00 -
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The strategy of "Burned earth" could be just right, even fare more complex in its design lay out to bring about change in the game, but on the end bluntly collapsing just to it: GÇ£Burned EarthGÇ¥.
There was a famous saying within the Prussian army echelons: GÇ£ Viele Feind, viel Ehr!GÇ¥, meaning: Lots of enemyGÇÖ is lots of honor. Used and abused in a darker part of history some years following the Prussia era it was a simply rip out of it original context GÇ£Lots of enemyGÇÖs is lots of honor, but always brings the fall into the own swordGÇ¥. It appears the sentence has become program for GÇ£The MittaniGÇ¥ and his flock!
It's a Sandbox..., a Sandbox...., a Sandbox....! All of itGǪ., and nothing more, nothing less!
Whatever the self-proclaimed historians of the EvE Sandbox hurdle to document in their archives someday and put on the front page blogs, whether " The reigin of the Mittani" or " The GSF, a example of fail in strategy" it will be the obvious; a repeat of history itself, even in the little world of the sandbox.
GÇ£ Tu quoque fili?", GÇ£so you are among them?GÇ¥ These are the final and famous words of Cesar (assumed). Daub fully we will see Hillmar Perterson ever have occurring this question on his mind concerning a little alliance CEO no matter how hard he tries to intercept the ear and thoughts trug the CSM to a real live CEO. (With the sole ability to single handed switch down all desires of a GAF CEO by shooting down the server at once. The burning thorn of jealousy of the absolute power absent) If we canGÇÖt get it outside the game we do it in the game! Geniuse.
Even GÇ£The MittanisGÇ¥ genius strike to call the operation GÇ£Goonswarm shruggedGÇ¥ in the attempt to lean on Any RandGÇÖs famous novel GÇ£Atlas shruggedGÇ¥ just gives away his passion for coding a GSF operation to a significant deeper meaning by relating it to the cornerstones of American literature, yet again a failure to connect recent RL social movements to the game (read his interest). We like the intention of it and Any RandGÇÖs novel will survive it well! The attempt to create a connection to the novels philosophy and its content is intriguing even though the use (abuse) for his own agi-prop in the GÇ£real live in the pixel SandboxGÇ¥ is in its outcome just a phantasy greater (really smaller) as the novel by Any Rand.
The Gallente Ice interdiction was a fail from the beginig. And by purpose I write was! It might be alive by the jurisdiction of the GSF command but as de-facto already in atrophy. The market in the Eve Sandbox is a strange creature and does not respond well if kicked to get up or down or move at all. It jumps, it moves but just to lay down some days later and id upset by its all.
From the very beginning we discussed the GS_S possible market and strategic outcome and relevance in our Corp board and came to the conclusion it will create noting but hot air on the market! A temporarily hype on OI and BI which will cool down again. (as happened right by now) Just refer to the geniuses market manipulation of Noxium, all back to 350/ea. The self-proclaimed attempt to change the or even destroys the market in eve was as high placed as it fall allready is.
Why ? ItGÇÖs all said in his first paragraph of his pamphlet GÇ£Goonswarm shruggedGÇ¥ for those who can read and draw strategically conclusions. The Man allowed his last strategic failure get to his bones and could not see the possibilities behind his own ignitionGÇÖs. I am burning hard to give out the complete strategic analyze (marked/military) we made but for the fun of the game we want to watch the operation GÇ£Goonswarm struggledGÇ¥ up to its final scene.
 
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Teamosil
Good Time Family Band Solution
16
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:01:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Sorry, when I fly in a thousand man fleet I make a difference, so my name stands out.
Hey man, that's great and I don't doubt it. And that may very well be the best way for you to maximize your enjoyment of the game. But for somebody else it might be a different approach. Some people don't find as much satisfaction in being part of a big organization even if they stand out in that organization. Some people find it annoying to have to deal with others, some people take more pride in being able to accomplish something on their own than they do in being part of the accomplishment of a group, etc. There is no reason to try to force everybody to take the same path you did.
Tallian Saotome wrote:I identified a place I could perform well that would allow me to stand out
You identified ONE place that you can stand out. There are MANY such places in eve. There are people that have made a name for themselves in trading, industry, solo pvp, gang pvp, scamming, etc.
And, noteriety really isn't a universal goal. Some of the most fun I've had in the game has been alone in a wormhole doing things nobody would ever have any way to know I did. Personally I don't really care who knows what about my accomplishments in the game, or even really how those accomplishments stack up against other people's. I just like the thrill of managing to pull something off that I didn't think I'd be able to a week ago.
Anyways, I think my point boils down to that there is no reason everybody needs to play the game the same way. People are different. They enjoy different things, find different things annoying, have different amounts of time to dedicate to the game, different strengths and weaknesses, different personalities, etc. That's what I think is cool about eve- there is something for everybody. |

Handsome Hussein
66
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:14:00 -
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elam Bannon wrote:Why ? ItGÇÖs all said in his first paragraph of his pamphlet GÇ£Goonswarm shruggedGÇ¥ for those who can read and draw strategically conclusions. The Man allowed his last strategic failure get to his bones and could not see the possibilities behind his own ignitionGÇÖs. I am burning hard to give out the complete strategic analyze (marked/military) we made but for the fun of the game we want to watch the operation GÇ£Goonswarm struggledGÇ¥ up to its final scene.   I shall dub thee "Crazy Ivan". Leaves only the fresh scent of pine. |

MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
22
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Posted - 2011.10.29 03:55:00 -
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elam Bannon wrote: I am burning hard
Me too....but the wife is dancing around in some flimsy clothing so I got a really good reason.
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Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
132
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Posted - 2011.10.29 04:38:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Such a shame Goons took the easy route. Destruction takes but an instant. Constructing, improving, that takes more effort, more stamina and better personalities.
Are Goons a reflection on the world? That so many wastes of space can band together to try and spread their misery?
Remember that the goons' original goal in this game was to destroy it. It's just proved a wee bit more difficult than they originally thought. Maybe they are currently just returning to their roots, or maybe they are just doing it "for the lulz". When it comes to the goons, you will never know.
If they are doing it "for the lulz" then they will stop as soon as the next big war comes along. Remember: ~winter is coming~. WIth luck, it will result in lots of destroyed super capitals which means high mineral prices, which means happy miners. |

Terminal Insanity
Convex Enterprises
44
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Posted - 2011.10.29 08:30:00 -
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There is no right side for CCP here. They have to choose to ether conform to the highsec or the nullsec people. Nullsec people want eve the way it used to be - brutal and unforgiving. The highsec people want it to become more like WOW (sorry but its true)
If CCP continues to try and please both sides, they'll end up destroying the game for the hardcore players, and they'll never do enough to please the highsec PvE'ers. I imagine even if CCP made all the PVE'ers ships respawn intact, they'd still complain about the existance of killmails, or even the complain about the 5 minute disruption in his mining
If you read their complaints, there is one thing that is very clear: They really never learned to play eve. They dont use dscan. They dont watch local. They dont set standings towards hostile highsec gankers even. Instead of using the tools they were given, they simply complain to CCP, in a bid to make it more like WOW.
Now, they wouldnt say "make it like WOW", and many of them would even say they dont like WOW. But the changes they are requesting would in the end, turn this into a WOW-Like game, where there IS space that is 100% safe where they can play all day long without ever risking a single thing.
The brutality of eve is what made this game popular. The popularity is going to kill eve because the mainstream gamer isnt used to this type of brutality, at all. Even in Mortal Kombat they'd always respawn with a full health bar. They never learned to enjoy risk... |

Florestan Bronstein
The Waterworks
139
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Posted - 2011.10.29 09:06:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:The highsec people want it to become more like WOW (sorry but its true) guess you've never been corpse-camped in wow  |

Florestan Bronstein
The Waterworks
139
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Posted - 2011.10.29 09:13:00 -
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Red Templar wrote:Im sorry i dont know what that means. This was not included in our training. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=QFT |

Lexmana
Imperial Stout
41
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Posted - 2011.10.29 10:43:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:The brutality of eve is what made this game popular. The popularity is going to kill eve because the mainstream gamer isnt used to this type of brutality, at all.
That is so true. I believe that EvE still can grow though, but growth needs to be slow so that those who want to turn EvE into something like WoW is kept as a small minority. Some will adapt and appreciate EvE and are likely to stay with the game. The others will leave and no-one will miss them.
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The Apostle
The Black Priests
760
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:03:00 -
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Quote:There is no right side for CCP here. They have to choose to ether conform to the highsec or the nullsec people. Nullsec people want eve the way it used to be - brutal and unforgiving. The highsec people want it to become more like WOW (sorry but its true) Nullsec people have "eve" the way it used to be. They left highsec and went to nullsec.
Highsec people don't want highsec to be nullsec. They want it to be highsec.
If they wanted highsec to be like nullsec they'd go to nullsec and then they'd be in nullsec and highsec would still be highsec...
The problem now is nullsec came to highsec saying they want nullsec like it "used to be".
But they came to highsec to do it....
Now highsec peeps are thinking of moving to nullsec because highsec is as tough as nullsec anyway.
Thought for today: Why have highsec? Thought for tomorrow: Why have ANY sec?
Remove gateguns, Concord, wardecs and HTFU.
Make NO difference to miners whatever the **** you do. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
872
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:07:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Quote:There is no right side for CCP here. They have to choose to ether conform to the highsec or the nullsec people. Nullsec people want eve the way it used to be - brutal and unforgiving. The highsec people want it to become more like WOW (sorry but its true) Nullsec people have "eve" the way it used to be. They left highsec and went to nullsec. Highsec people don't want highsec to be nullsec. They want it to be highsec. If they wanted highsec to be like nullsec they'd go to nullsec and then they'd be in nullsec and highsec would still be highsec... The problem now is nullsec came to highsec saying they want nullsec like it "used to be". But they came to highsec to do it.... Now highsec peeps are thinking of moving to nullsec because highsec is as tough as nullsec anyway. Thought for today: Why have highsec? Thought for tomorrow: Why have ANY sec? Remove gateguns, Concord, wardecs and HTFU. Make NO difference to miners whatever the **** you do.
So.... working as intended?
I for one would like to welcome the previously hi-sec mining community to null. Don't forget to ask in the Ships & Modules forum about how to tank your Exhumer vs 0.0 rats! Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:12:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:mkint wrote:Nyla Skin wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote: I'm not against Gallente Ice Interdiction. It adds spice to the game. But considering Hilmar has his eyes on highsec and seems to want to make it SAFER, then this ongoing interdiction seems to be forcing CCP into making it safer sooner rather than later (after a good sleep and giving it a good think.)
Do you have any other actual proof of that, besides that one change regarding wardecs? you don't get it... this is a stealth re-nerf eve-u thread. If you follow the blog to see what links were linked, two of them lead straight to the dec-shield threads. Whats even funnier is that there IS a grand conspiracy... But its against TEST  If you pay attention, you will see that Goons overwhelmingly detest TEST, and are trying to provoke the mighty highsec blob into attack, at which point they will use TEST as a meatshield, and let them get ground out of existence. Once Montolio emoragequites, the interdiction will end because Goons achieved their goal. Its all so obvious, how can you come up with this mind melting garbage about a plot to overthrow CCP. This coming from an alliance that was almost reset by Test in Fountain through "lack of effort" and got so scared of the possibility that they sided with Goons to protect their scrawny ass. I do laugh that it's actually FA that will be the meatshield in any case. You always were. Your screaming banshee leader made sure of that. lolz.
humm let's try to put it simple:
Test - fleets with coalition enemy =PL
Test/PL fleet find FA fleet at some point
By some mistake (is there only one really?) FA shoots "enemy" : why the heck you fly with the enemy?
Results: internet drama
The ones getting ****** on the process? - FA
Goonswarm? - are having some nice fresh vodka drinks and waiting the end of the process  |

Xpaulusx
Hosti1e Traff1c Control
3
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:14:00 -
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High sec is fine as is, we have a saying here in New York, don't fix it if it ain't broken , Christ CCP use your heads for a change  |

Lexmana
Imperial Stout
41
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:16:00 -
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The Apostle wrote: Thought for today: Why have highsec? Thought for tomorrow: Why have ANY sec?
I believe most players want different sec since it caters to different play styles and help n00bs into the game. But that doesn't mean high sec should be completely safe. It is a PvP game ffs.
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The Apostle
The Black Priests
760
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:16:00 -
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Xpaulusx wrote:High sec is fine as is, we have a saying here in New York, don't fix it if it ain't broken , Christ CCP, use your heads for a change  It's a Goon op.
It's not broken, so **** it. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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The Apostle
The Black Priests
760
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:18:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:The Apostle wrote: Thought for today: Why have highsec? Thought for tomorrow: Why have ANY sec?
I believe most players want different sec since it caters to different play styles and help n00bs into the game. But that doesn't mean high sec should be completely safe. It is a PvP game ffs. EXACTLY. So REMOVE Concord, remove gateguns and HTFU.
Didn't I SAY that....???
I also said it'd make no difference to miners.
PvP'ers DON'T want the change. Why? Cos they''ll ******* die. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:24:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:So REMOVE Concord, remove gateguns and HTFU.
Didn't I SAY that....???
I also said it'd make no difference to miners.
PvP'ers DON'T want the change. Why? Cos they''ll ******* die.
This tbh
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Lexmana
Imperial Stout
41
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:29:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Lexmana wrote:The Apostle wrote: Thought for today: Why have highsec? Thought for tomorrow: Why have ANY sec?
I believe most players want different sec since it caters to different play styles and help n00bs into the game. But that doesn't mean high sec should be completely safe. It is a PvP game ffs. EXACTLY. So REMOVE Concord, remove gateguns and HTFU.
That would probably kill EvE and only a few select people wants that. Most players like EvE and that is why they are playing it. It is a different game with a smaller target group than many other games. It is a niche game. And very successful at it too. How many MMOs can show growth every year for almost a decade. Why change such a winning formula? |

The Apostle
The Black Priests
760
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:34:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:The Apostle wrote:Lexmana wrote:The Apostle wrote: Thought for today: Why have highsec? Thought for tomorrow: Why have ANY sec?
I believe most players want different sec since it caters to different play styles and help n00bs into the game. But that doesn't mean high sec should be completely safe. It is a PvP game ffs. EXACTLY. So REMOVE Concord, remove gateguns and HTFU. That would probably kill EvE and only a few select people wants that. Most players like EvE and that is why they are playing it. It is a different game with a smaller target group than other games. It is a niche game. And very successful at it too. How many MMOs can show growth every year for almost a decade. Why change such a winning formula? Winning formula?
PvP'ers get to kill unarmed vessels claiming it's "sandbox" yadda ya, all the while USING Concord to protect THEIR ass in highsec.
When a miner says "c'mon, fair crack here fella" he's told to HTFU and the usual crap.
So why are you, Mr. "leet", USING Concord to protect YOUR ass in highsec but anyone else is lame, weak, cowardly for saying they want protection.
So Eve is PvP ad nauseum but only if YOU are allowed to die but not ME? amirite? Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Nyla Skin
Pew Pew Corp Behold.
15
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:58:00 -
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Thats nothing actually done, only talk.. |

Lexmana
Imperial Stout
41
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Posted - 2011.10.29 12:02:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Lexmana wrote:The Apostle wrote:Lexmana wrote:The Apostle wrote: Thought for today: Why have highsec? Thought for tomorrow: Why have ANY sec?
I believe most players want different sec since it caters to different play styles and help n00bs into the game. But that doesn't mean high sec should be completely safe. It is a PvP game ffs. EXACTLY. So REMOVE Concord, remove gateguns and HTFU. That would probably kill EvE and only a few select people wants that. Most players like EvE and that is why they are playing it. It is a different game with a smaller target group than other games. It is a niche game. And very successful at it too. How many MMOs can show growth every year for almost a decade. Why change such a winning formula? Winning formula? PvP'ers get to kill unarmed vessels claiming it's "sandbox" yadda ya, all the while USING Concord to protect THEIR ass in highsec. When a miner says "c'mon, fair crack here fella" he's told to HTFU and the usual crap. So why are you, Mr. "leet", USING Concord to protect YOUR ass in highsec but anyone else is lame, weak, cowardly for saying they want protection. So Eve is PvP ad nauseum but only if YOU are allowed to die but not ME? amirite?
You know I haven't done any mining since the n00b mission but I will probably try it later in a WH or something and when I do I will adapt to the situation like I do in all other activities I engage in EvE. If there is a war going I will try to find somewhere safe and watch local and dscan. I will consider a tank and maybe even mine in a BS or at least something cheaper than a hulk. I will weigh in the risk/reward ratio when I choose my strategy. The higher the risk the less profitable mining will be and at some point I will choose some other activity.
I can't understand why some people think there should be risk free semi afk ISK during war-time.
Me personally, would like mining to be more involving and risky so it would be worth doing it only for the fun. Then I would probably mine more and if the goons continue their activities I might even consider mining in highsec. |

Russell Casey
One Ton Reverberation Project
55
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Posted - 2011.10.29 14:00:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:
PvP'ers DON'T want the change. Why? Cos they''ll ******* die and there's no respawn button.
Fixed for you. It would suck for miners too because right now suicide gankers target the biggest, most expensive and untanked fit barges out there because they know they'll lose their own ships and want to make some money back with their alts scooping/salvaging, but a removal of CONCORD would make every miner a target just for lulz. You never see anyone zapping mining frigs/cruisers in highsec by the way.
I do, however, sometimes think that the game might be better if C-Cord only spawned at stations and gates, that would at least prevent highsec from being locked down by a big enough group like it was in the past, but everyone wouldn't think it meant risk-free money because you could still get attacked out in the boonies.
Sometimes, like when I've had a few Jack Daniels. |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2011.10.29 14:03:00 -
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theres no winning for CCP in this. They either let Goons have their fun and do everything they can to "break" EVE
OR
They step in and stop legal, in game, play and set a horrible precidence. They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
26
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Posted - 2011.10.29 14:35:00 -
[207] - Quote
Nah, they just modify a current stupid mechanic - remove insurance payouts when getting CONCORDED. |

Teamosil
Good Time Family Band Solution
17
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Posted - 2011.10.29 15:51:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:EXACTLY. So REMOVE Concord, remove gateguns and HTFU.
Didn't I SAY that....???
I also said it'd make no difference to miners.
PvP'ers DON'T want the change. Why? Cos they''ll ******* die.
Why would you want the whole universe being one homogenous mass? That seems like it would make the game way less interesting. The different types of space support different lifestyles. In one fell swoop CCP would be eliminating most of your options for how to play the game. Everybody would have to either quit or choose "peon in a big alliance" as their career. I get that some people really enjoy that role and more power to them, but that's only a fraction of the population that prefers that to all the other options. |

Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
175
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Posted - 2011.10.29 16:17:00 -
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Nyla Skin wrote:Thats nothing actually done, only talk.. Why would you wait until they actually do it. They talked about it. They agreed about the need for it. Since we don't know that they aren't actually working on it ... best to bring it up before it is too late.
Easier to get CCP not to implement something, than it is to get them to unimplement something.
EVE Online: Incarna = New Coke. EVE Online: Winter Expansion = Coke Classic. |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2011.10.29 16:27:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Nyla Skin wrote:Thats nothing actually done, only talk.. Why would you wait until they actually do it. They talked about it. They agreed about the need for it. Since we don't know that they aren't actually working on it ... best to bring it up before it is too late. Easier to get CCP not to implement something, than it is to get them to unimplement something.
And they impliment everthing they talk about on Twitter? I dont follow them, Im just trying to get some backstory They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |
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