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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
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Posted - 2011.10.28 06:44:00 -
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Quote:Highsec players have been complaining about being "forced" into a style of play they don't enjoy, that they would prefer not to partake in, for years, even when they were fully aware of the type of game they were signing up for, even when the stories of the scams and ganks may have been what drew them to the game in the first place. High irony. CCP, thankfully, has never really paid them much heed, beyond beefing up CONCORD (such that they are now automatic disciplinary machines [minus a small security status dependent response delay]) and telling them to harden the **** up.
But, highsec players are surprisingly vocal when it comes to complaining about any disruption to their style of play. This year, CCP has begun to take notice. Perhaps the need to retain players and attract new ones has decided this change of direction, this move from the HTFU attitude of old.
Flying in Space (FiS) development may be back. And everyone is happy and excited and optimistic. And that's all good. I'm happy and excited for new FiS development as well. But there's this undercurrent of urgency on the part of CCP, that player retention is tied to highsec and changes need to be made. Radical changes. And without them, CCP will continue to bleed subscriptions. They seem ready to do something rash, when perhaps there's nothing at all that needs to be done.
Thus The Mittani (CSM Chairman) and his Goonswarm enter the picture.
There seems to be a game of Russian Roulette being played. The only two people at the table are Hilmar and The Mittani. Each seem to be pushing towards something from which the other can't back down. Hilmar is playing more subtle hands here, tossing out hints and innuendo. The Mittani is running up and down the halls, arms flailing wildly, daring, screaming at CCP to do something not to Goonswarm's (or the Sandbox's) benefit. What is at stake seems to be high security space and how it will interact with the Sandbox. Will highsec continue to be a member of the Sandbox, or will it be removed from the combat, ship-to-ship aspect, of the player-driven content model?
Already, the war declaration system has been gutted. This new change of policy apparently passed through the CSM with nary a word of dissent. Even if the CSM chairman could give a rat's ass about high security space, he has always expressed the opinion that the sandbox should not be ****** with. Yet, this policy change, removes all corporations (but especially highsec corporations) from a major component of non-consensual PvP, one of the cornerstones of the sandbox philosophy.
So what gives? The CSM either cares deeply for the sandbox, or it doesn't.
So what does The Mittani do? He wages highsec piracy (ganking) upon Gallente ice miners. Now, I'm all for this. It is what EVE is about, after all. But what about the timing? With CCP already giving concessions to the screaming carebears, does making them scream ever louder help the situation? Hilmar has already suggested that CONCORD needs buffing to curb ganking. No word yet on whether this is something CCP is currently working on, but Arnar Hrafn Gylfason (Senior Producer for EVE Online) readily agreed with Hilmar. Two top CCP dudes agreeing that ganking needs to be curbed. Take from that what you will. If it happens it will be the final nail in the coffin and non-consenual PvP in highsec will be officially dead.
The Mittani, whatever agenda he might have with his Gallente Ice Interdiction (and the agenda certainly isn't financial -- Goons were ******* rich before the interdiction and they'll be ******* rich after the interdiction), it's certainly working to change the sandbox, maybe even removing one entire section of space from having to participate in an important aspect of it (i.e., combat.)
I'm beginning to think that The Mittani's agenda is scorched earth. That he decided sometime in August that he was leaving EVE Online after his CSM term was complete, but that before he left, he was going to leave EVE in such a state, that he would feel absolutely no compulsion to return. The agenda is to force CCP into ******* with the sandbox, change the face of EVE for good. He'll leave the game come early 2012, and a good portion of the Drone Clusterfuck Federation will follow.
It's a thought and a possibility, at any rate. He certainly seems hellbent on forcing CCP into some highsec changes that aren't going to bode well for the game overall.
Quoted article trimmed for size (internal links removed.)
Complete article at http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/russian-roulette-ccp-vs-goonswarm.html. EVE Online: Incarna = New Coke. EVE Online: Winter Expansion = Coke Classic. |

Jovan Geldon
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
107
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Posted - 2011.10.28 06:53:00 -
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The E-O forums are not here for the purposes of advertising your terrible blog, stop it |

Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2011.10.28 06:58:00 -
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you should have warned me that i have to put my tinfoil hat before reading this. For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |

Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.28 06:59:00 -
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So . . . Uh . . . What exactly is the topic? ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware. |

Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
163
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:01:00 -
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Red Templar wrote:you should have warned me that i have to put my tinfoil hat before reading this. You weren't let in on the plan. You're a pleb in the organization. :)
EVE Online: Incarna = New Coke. EVE Online: Winter Expansion = Coke Classic. |

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
88
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:01:00 -
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Since you call it "terrible", one must assume that you have read it .. what does that say about you and what comes out of your mouth? ... just sayin'
As for Goons .. they and their associates pour so much **** onto/into Eve that some of it is bound to stick. They are akin to an unruly bunch of chimpanzees that just discovered the aerodynamic properties of faeces. |

Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:02:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Red Templar wrote:you should have warned me that i have to put my tinfoil hat before reading this. You weren't let in on the plan. You're a pleb in the organization. :)
I'm going to give this thread a bump just so more people can see how dumb you are. |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
127
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:05:00 -
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The CEO of BoB swore death and destruction and the flatlining of Eve if his needs and wants where not met. Great threats of massive unsubs were held up as a form of extortion. The drama that ensued proved costly, both for BoB and a small group of CCP staff.
Eve is still here. The bad CCP staff are not. BoB is not.
I'm satisfied that Hilmar, as a mature and knowledeable person will not be bulldozed or bullied into anything that will hurt the income and ongoing success of Eve. He's done right before, no reason he won't do what's right again.
One Corporation does not Eve make, no matter what.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics BRABODEN
361
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:05:00 -
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Quote:I'm beginning to think that The Mittani's agenda is scorched earth.
It almost doesn't matter. Certain personalities are best kept away from any perceived position of clout or authority and his is one of those personalities. In truth, he has no power over CCP, but he thrives on the perception that he does and that perception isn't good for the integrity of the game. |

Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:09:00 -
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After reading the OP's post a second time, I understand and completely agree. The Mittani is an absolute menace to the game, I for one will join you in spreading the truth to the good people of New Eden. I'd also like for you to add on my personal theory of how The Mittani has personally been training bears to fly Thrashers for the Red Alliance. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware. |
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
163
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:13:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:I'm satisfied that Hilmar, as a mature and knowledeable person will not be bulldozed or bullied into anything that will hurt the income and ongoing success of Eve. He's done right before, no reason he won't do what's right again. You'd think, but it appears he's moving in a direction of allowing highsec corporations to opt out of the combat portion of the sandbox ... which would be devastating for the economy. Out-of-control inflation.
EVE Online: Incarna = New Coke. EVE Online: Winter Expansion = Coke Classic. |

The Apostle
The Black Priests
750
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:15:00 -
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As much as I dislike this blatant cross promotion there is a gem or two in here with which I concur and have said for a long, long time.
The ganking is a problem (there ya go Tippia) and Mittens is quite possibly forcing a change with an incessant and in my view, a totally unneccessary campaign.
I even said earlier today, unless Mittens is intending to take on DRF or is protecting his own assets because he fears the DRF then there is no rhyme or reason to the "interdiction" apart from pissing people off. He got caps nerfed through the CSM (which means **** all to 80% of Eve) and then turns his PERSONAL dislike of caps into a highsec vendetta.
And truthfully, if he's just pissing people off for lolz then more power to CCP if they kick his scrawny childish ass with a pair of Icelandic size 10's.
If he is intending to "Burn Eden" as it were, he's biting off far more than he can chew. Eve is much bigger than Mittens, for all his beliefs otherwise. Yeah sure, there's a lot of bored "bittervet" kissGoons here on the forum that would bend over for Mittens but by and large the game and the community have had a gutful and would gladly see the mongrel tarred, feathered and then shot.
I for one would never miss the arrogant prick.
Whatever happens, CCP should have called his bluff a long time ago. They made this mess, they need to clean it up.
If he's staying I hope the DRF kick his ass when war comes (I will personally sign up to help). if he's leaving then good ******* riddance.
And here's the thing, I was happy to fight FOR the CFC whoever if Russkies decided to get tough. Since this highsec ganking BS, I'd spend every penny and every waking moment and campaign like hell to get the Goons kicked clean the **** out of Eve.
That's my $39.27 worth. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:15:00 -
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Lord Mandelor wrote: I'd also like for you to add on my personal theory of how The Mittani has personally been training bears to fly Thrashers for the Red Alliance. That is actually absolutely true. He even trains them to post on boards. Just look at me. For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |

The Apostle
The Black Priests
750
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:18:00 -
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Red Templar wrote:Lord Mandelor wrote: I'd also like for you to add on my personal theory of how The Mittani has personally been training bears to fly Thrashers for the Red Alliance. That is actually absolutely true. He even trains them to post on boards. Just look at me. QFT Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Handsome Hussein
61
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:20:00 -
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Put the tinfoil away. Goons like this game. They want it to be better. The Gallente ice interdiction is an extension of null-sec warfare, an attempt to affect the supercap problem before winter hits. The Goons are naturally railing against the stagnation (and fun) that has vacated null-sec and are being proactive. Leaves only the fresh scent of pine. |

Zirse
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:20:00 -
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You people are pathetic. Seriously, remove the tinfoil and go outside. |

Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
163
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:21:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:If he is intending to "Burn Eden" as it were, he's biting off far more than he can chew. Eve is much bigger than Mittens, for all his beliefs otherwise. Not if he can convince CCP to change some highsec rules due to his actions, then he wins. He's changed EVE for the worse and for good. Removing all risk from highsec is NOT a good thing for the game.
EVE Online: Incarna = New Coke. EVE Online: Winter Expansion = Coke Classic. |

Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble.
7
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:21:00 -
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Seeing as how I don't want to be devoured by bears, I withdraw my support in this campaign. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware. |

Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:24:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Red Templar wrote:Lord Mandelor wrote: I'd also like for you to add on my personal theory of how The Mittani has personally been training bears to fly Thrashers for the Red Alliance. That is actually absolutely true. He even trains them to post on boards. Just look at me. QFT Quantum Field Theory?
Im sorry i dont know what that means. This was not included in our training. For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |

Written Word
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
71
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:28:00 -
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Wait, are you seriously saying you write "articles" now?
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The Apostle
The Black Priests
751
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:35:00 -
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Handsome ******* wrote:Put the tinfoil away. Goons like this game. They want it to be better. The Gallente ice interdiction is an extension of null-sec warfare, an attempt to affect the supercap problem before winter hits. The Goons are naturally railing against the stagnation (and fun) that has vacated null-sec and are being proactive. Either Mittens is scared of the DRF and is trying to kneecap them or he intends to invade. Who really gives a **** anymore?
80% of Eve is getting to the point they don't give a **** about Goons (CFC pets too) OR DRF.
It's a stagnated wasteland full of arrogant pricks who need a solid smack in the mouth to wake 'em up. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Handsome Hussein
61
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:38:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Either Mittens is scared of the DRF and is trying to kneecap them or he intends to invade. Who really gives a **** anymore?
80% of Eve is getting to the point they don't give a **** about Goons (CFC pets too) OR DRF.
It's a stagnated wasteland full of arrogant pricks who need a solid smack in the mouth to wake 'em up. Thanks for backing me up? Leaves only the fresh scent of pine. |

The Apostle
The Black Priests
751
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:45:00 -
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Handsome ******* wrote:The Apostle wrote:Either Mittens is scared of the DRF and is trying to kneecap them or he intends to invade. Who really gives a **** anymore?
80% of Eve is getting to the point they don't give a **** about Goons (CFC pets too) OR DRF.
It's a stagnated wasteland full of arrogant pricks who need a solid smack in the mouth to wake 'em up. Thanks for backing me up? Yeah. I know. I did write some other **** about something, something, something but got bored so it's probably all up to **** and really I don't give a **** anymore about 0.0, CFC, CCCP, CCP, whatever.
Truly. This game is getting even MORE boring because the only "event" these days is watching some poor bastard get slaughtered by arrogant pigs of 0.0 warlords and it's now called "fun" because of it.
What have we become?
Just kill all the alliances, reset 0.0 and start the ******* game again. Any corp gets bigger than 100 members, Concord kills 'em.
Whatever. **** 'em all. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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El'Niaga
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
44
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:45:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Handsome ******* wrote:Put the tinfoil away. Goons like this game. They want it to be better. The Gallente ice interdiction is an extension of null-sec warfare, an attempt to affect the supercap problem before winter hits. The Goons are naturally railing against the stagnation (and fun) that has vacated null-sec and are being proactive. Either Mittens is scared of the DRF and is trying to kneecap them or he intends to invade. Who really gives a **** anymore? 80% of Eve is getting to the point they don't give a **** about Goons (CFC pets too) OR DRF. It's a stagnated wasteland full of arrogant pricks who need a solid smack in the mouth to wake 'em up.
It's in preparation of an invasion planned after winter expansion release.
He's promised TEST new space etc. Their plan is to take out NC., RDN., IRC, WN, SOLAR and SOL-W while RED, XIX, and XWX sit out any invasion. WN still is helping RED because they feel RED will help them later but supposidly Mittani has guarantees from RED, XIX and XWX that they won't intervene on any invasion of the rest of the former DRF.
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Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:48:00 -
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Its amazing. He continues to tell us how much he does not care about us. Or ccp, or drf, or whatever else that gives him this epic butt-hurt. He doesn't care so much, that he going to make it his job, to inform us about that in every thread.
I like his dedication!  For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |

Hrald
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
19
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:49:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Handsome ******* wrote:Put the tinfoil away. Goons like this game. They want it to be better. The Gallente ice interdiction is an extension of null-sec warfare, an attempt to affect the supercap problem before winter hits. The Goons are naturally railing against the stagnation (and fun) that has vacated null-sec and are being proactive. Either Mittens is scared of the DRF and is trying to kneecap them or he intends to invade. Who really gives a **** anymore? 80% of Eve is getting to the point they don't give a **** about Goons (CFC pets too) OR DRF. It's a stagnated wasteland full of arrogant pricks who need a solid smack in the mouth to wake 'em up. DRF disbanded 3 weeks ago. If you think the CFC is a problem, come out and take care of it. |

The Apostle
The Black Priests
751
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:50:00 -
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El'Niaga wrote:The Apostle wrote:Handsome ******* wrote:Put the tinfoil away. Goons like this game. They want it to be better. The Gallente ice interdiction is an extension of null-sec warfare, an attempt to affect the supercap problem before winter hits. The Goons are naturally railing against the stagnation (and fun) that has vacated null-sec and are being proactive. Either Mittens is scared of the DRF and is trying to kneecap them or he intends to invade. Who really gives a **** anymore? 80% of Eve is getting to the point they don't give a **** about Goons (CFC pets too) OR DRF. It's a stagnated wasteland full of arrogant pricks who need a solid smack in the mouth to wake 'em up. It's in preparation of an invasion planned after winter expansion release. He's promised TEST new space etc. Their plan is to take out NC., RDN., IRC, WN, SOLAR and SOL-W while RED, XIX, and XWX sit out any invasion. WN still is helping RED because they feel RED will help them later but supposidly Mittani has guarantees from RED, XIX and XWX that they won't intervene on any invasion of the rest of the former DRF. And getting the CSM positioned to get caps nerfed was an objective request? As I said, more than half of Eve probably don't give a **** anyway. Truly.
Mittens went and made this personal so I hope he ******* loses and I hope EVERY highsec miner joins the reds too. I truly do.
I'm siding with Russia. Most Aussies do, we hate the Yanks more than the reds. The arrogance. Ugggghhhhhh. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
545
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:52:00 -
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So Poetic finally gives up on stalking Eve University and decides to stalk Goons instead! Good luck...you're going to need it since you're now competing with The Apostle. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

The Apostle
The Black Priests
751
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:52:00 -
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Hrald wrote:The Apostle wrote:Handsome ******* wrote:Put the tinfoil away. Goons like this game. They want it to be better. The Gallente ice interdiction is an extension of null-sec warfare, an attempt to affect the supercap problem before winter hits. The Goons are naturally railing against the stagnation (and fun) that has vacated null-sec and are being proactive. Either Mittens is scared of the DRF and is trying to kneecap them or he intends to invade. Who really gives a **** anymore? 80% of Eve is getting to the point they don't give a **** about Goons (CFC pets too) OR DRF. It's a stagnated wasteland full of arrogant pricks who need a solid smack in the mouth to wake 'em up. DRF disbanded 3 weeks ago. If you think the CFC is a problem, come out and take care of it. You've only got 4,000 sheep.
I'd only need 3 horses ya moron. Not even worth buying some hay to travel with. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2011.10.28 07:53:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:
And getting the CSM positioned to get caps nerfed was an objective request? As I said, more than half of Eve probably don't give a **** anyway. Truly.
Mittens went and made this personal so I hope he ******* loses and I hope EVERY highsec miner joins the reds too. I truly do.
I'm siding with Russia. Most Aussies do, we hate the Yanks more than the reds. The arrogance. Ugggghhhhhh.
Awwww 
And here i thought you really didnt care 
I believed in you! You broke my heart...  For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |
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