| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 [8] :: one page |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
175
   |
Posted - 2011.10.29 16:33:00 -
[211] - Quote
Richard Hammond II wrote:And they impliment everthing they talk about on Twitter? I dont follow them, Im just trying to get some backstory
Probably not everything, but likely some ... but why not bring it up as a topic of discussion and get them to explain? Why wait until it's definitely too late?
EVE Online: Incarna = New Coke.
EVE Online: Winter Expansion = Coke Classic. |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange
Fatal Ascension
198
|
Posted - 2011.10.29 17:34:00 -
[212] - Quote
Tanya Powers wrote:humm let's try to put it simple: Test - fleets with coalition enemy =PL Test/PL fleet find FA fleet at some point By some mistake (is there only one really?) FA shoots "enemy" : why the heck you fly with the enemy? Results: internet drama The ones getting ****** on the process? - FA Goonswarm? - are having some nice fresh vodka drinks and waiting the end of the process 
wrong thread bro. our CFC internet drama is somewhere else.
That sad attempt as calling my alliance crap was like a week before the current round of entertainment.
More true than ever, blue *IS* the new red.
o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist..
KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
65
|
Posted - 2011.10.29 18:49:00 -
[213] - Quote
Poetic Stanziel wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:And they impliment everthing they talk about on Twitter? I dont follow them, Im just trying to get some backstory Probably not everything, but likely some ... but why not bring it up as a topic of discussion and get them to explain? Why wait until it's definitely too late?
Do you have ANY precidence to back up that claim?
Quote:But best to assume they are acting upon that conversation unless they confirm otherwise.
Great quote by the way...
They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes
"no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties"
Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |
tengen san
Triton-TC
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.29 23:33:00 -
[214] - Quote
Mittanis Double fail anyway
If you look at the markets stats for the last month in regards of BI, OI you canGÇÖt pass to admit the prices were only jumping sporadically in the mid of the month, and descending now again. So the attempt to GÇ£destroyGÇ¥ the Eve market already failed to a great length.
That is Fact, period!
What left is a GÇ£perma gankGÇ¥ in the Gallente Ice Fields. But even the ganking is not such a great success as it was anticipated; even though they have improved their weaponry, it lacks on consistency to the initial stated goal.
Two thing where neglected in the planning.
1.Since Incursion High sec is better coordinated than it ever was before.
2.Ice miners just move to Amar, Minmatar or Caldari space.
Taking on the whole empire Ice fields at once is a chunk too big to swallow for GS human recourses (pilots) since they have other engagements in the arena of Alliance warfare. The gank is done mostly by 3rd row pilots and spiced with occasional visits of skilled personal.
Their A Plan goal has failed, remains Plan B, screwing around in high sec.
For hardboiled market strategist this all is nothing but a rise of the eyebrow.
So Plan B is than really Plan A!
To stir with CCP it's all short managed just but fits to the twisted personality of "the Mittani", the strategy of sending in a plague of locusts to a handful of Asteroids was to less, too little to created the desired impact at CCP in how the game shall be played.
CONCORD will get a boost; ganking in hig sec. will get more difficult. (Considerations already formulated after Hulkadeggon II ,GǪso nothing new here) Will it speed up the process? Possible. Is there a need of monitoring by the player base? Of course, since the position of the CSM chairman is hijacked by special interest, a even more critical look is to be taken by the CCP board and the player base in general.
|
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
568
|
Posted - 2011.10.30 00:03:00 -
[215] - Quote
Richard Hammond II wrote:theres no winning for CCP in this. They either let Goons have their fun and do everything they can to "break" EVE
OR
They step in and stop legal, in game, play and set a horrible precidence.
Either way we win. If it's option one we get to keep farming pubbies in highsec. If it's option two it means we got CCP to break their own game.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Calapine
Xeno Tech Corp
Flatline.
33
|
Posted - 2011.10.30 00:17:00 -
[216] - Quote
Personally I find this 'Goons control Eve/CCP' meme/conspiracy a bit too tinfoily. Seems to be the sort of thinking that comes from watching too many reruns of the Glenn Beck show in a loop while gatecamping a dead-end system in the drone regions all night long. |
Teamosil
Good Time Family Band Solution
17
|
Posted - 2011.10.30 00:35:00 -
[217] - Quote
tengen san wrote:If you look at the markets stats for the last month in regards of BI, OI you canGÇÖt pass to admit the prices were only jumping sporadically in the mid of the month, and descending now again. So the attempt to GÇ£destroyGÇ¥ the Eve market already failed to a great length.
Just in jita alone, about 60 million units of oxygen isotopes are sold per day. The price jumped from about 450 to 900. That means that just in jita, oxygen isotope sellers made about 27 billion ISK per day more than they would have without the campaign. Just guessing, it's probably reasonable to assume that it is in the neighborhood of 100 billion more ISK per day between all the markets.
Anybody who knew of the campaign ahead of time could have bought up a bunch of isotopes in advance. Given how much volume there is, they could have doubled any amount of ISK pretty easily by now. Mittani would have people believe that that never occurred to him/them and that they're just in it for the lulz... That doesn't sound plausible at all to me. Mittani, and whoever else is in on this with him, have almost certainly made trillions off this campaign.
But, "hey everybody, why don't you spend your time and money making me huge profits!" isn't exactly a plan he could have gotten the goon peons behind, and he certainly wouldn't want to have to cut in the people actually doing the work, so he had to come up with something else. What he came up with was the "break eve" and "drive up prices for supercap fuel, hence weakening our enemies" lines. Of course, neither of those hold water. Somebody flying a 15b ship doesn't care about the price of fuel, and one type of POS costing a bit more to run isn't going to "break eve". Duh. But, those are the sorts of rationales that he figured he could get all the goon peons to buy into, so that's what he used.
So, I wouldn't say it was a failure. It was a failure for the peons, but for the folks they take orders from I'm sure it was a huge success. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
194
|
Posted - 2011.10.30 20:29:00 -
[218] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:Either way we win. If it's option one we get to keep farming pubbies in highsec. If it's option two it means we got CCP to break their own game. You're smart because you're so ugly. ;)
EVE Online: Incarna = New Coke.
EVE Online: Winter Expansion = Coke Classic. |
Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
69
|
Posted - 2011.10.30 20:31:00 -
[219] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:theres no winning for CCP in this. They either let Goons have their fun and do everything they can to "break" EVE
OR
They step in and stop legal, in game, play and set a horrible precidence. Either way we win. If it's option one we get to keep farming pubbies in highsec. If it's option two it means we got CCP to break their own game.
Theres that plan boys n girls
They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes
"no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties"
Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |
Phoehnix
Kevlar Solutions
Fratres Milites de Amarri
17
|
Posted - 2011.10.30 20:37:00 -
[220] - Quote
Oh come on |
|
|
Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
69
|
Posted - 2011.10.30 20:37:00 -
[221] - Quote
Phoehnix wrote:Oh come on
Train sarcasm to V
They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes
"no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties"
Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
190
|
Posted - 2011.10.30 20:42:00 -
[222] - Quote
Russian Roulette eh?
Here, let me prep that gun for you. 
Features & Ideas Discussion: Agent Finder, Black Holes
Needs a banner here.. |
draconothese
Independant Celestial Enterprises
Pink Fluffy Pussycats
3
|
Posted - 2011.10.30 20:49:00 -
[223] - Quote
um im lost can i get the short to the point version please |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
194
|
Posted - 2011.10.30 20:55:00 -
[224] - Quote
draconothese wrote:um im lost can i get the short to the point version please
The Fun Part
==========
The Mittani is aiming for the greatest meta-scam of all time. Create enough highsec tears and screaming to force CCP to "fix" the problem, thus screwing the sandbox and the game for good. EVE becomes just another of those MMOs where PvP is optional.
The Serious Part
=============
Hilmar and Zulu have stated that they believe CONCORD needs to be buffed. Wardec policy was also recently changed. Highsec is become increasingly risk-free.
EVE Online: Incarna = New Coke.
EVE Online: Winter Expansion = Coke Classic. |
draconothese
Independant Celestial Enterprises
Pink Fluffy Pussycats
3
|
Posted - 2011.10.30 21:02:00 -
[225] - Quote
well so far theres been no tears in my highsec area all the corps are on alert to watch ot for increased ganking but so far all ganks failed there all still mining away were i hang out
actualy most of the crying in the sector i hang out in is the lack of ganking XD |
Gealla
Capital Storm.
Bloodbound.
5
|
Posted - 2011.10.30 21:07:00 -
[226] - Quote
Kinis Deren wrote:Hmmm, yes I'm a noob, but to be honest, I feel the OP is reading far too much into current events involving CCP, the CSM, Hi Sec and the sandbox. I guess it makes for a great conspiracy theory and potential blog visits - all that is missing is the obligatory doomsday date prediction.  Isn't the whole concept of the sandbox based upon the fact that players can adjust tactics in response to the tactics of others? Game play will evolve in a similar style to a biological arms race. New players, like me, will either learn passively and suffer the consequences, or will take an active approach to learn much needed survival skills. If we accpet all this, why would the Goon's current campaign be any different to anything else the game has previously faced?
The problem is, the fundamental concept behind eve's sandbox is flawed, let me explain....
The sandbox provides a gaming environment closely akin to anarchy, there are no laws or rules (other than game mechanics) to speak of, which is what makes Eve the great game it is...
The problem is, the sandbox style of play attracts players who enjoy the playstyle, non-consentual pvp, ganking, profiting from others, pirating etc which is fine, but the problem is that the players who are attracted by the other aspects of Eve, a player driven economy, the ability to build, research and sell, to trade and profiteer through "legitimate" means, or what the PVPers call carebears are the ones who fall victim the most often.
This leave's the carebears with two options, harden the f up, or leave the gajme. In a RL situation, this sort of environment can work (to a degree) as the ones doing the work can't really escape or leave. Eve however is a purely choice driven attendance and so the carebears leave.... in droves.
Again, not a great issue right? well yes it is, because CCP relies on subs/plex to make money, pay wages, pay bills etc so it is in thier financial interest to not have players leave for other games.
And this is the conundrum for CCP IMO, do they leave the sandbox until it's just hardcore PVPers, who will be forced to build thier own ships eventually? or do they change the sandbox to try to retain that "other" type of player? |
Handsome Hussein
72
|
Posted - 2011.10.30 21:11:00 -
[227] - Quote
This whole thread is really a non-issue. Poetic is just an attention-whoring drama hound stirring up the tinfoilers and Goon-haters.
Leaves only the fresh scent of pine. |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
144
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 05:16:00 -
[228] - Quote
was this where the GM/dev said no can flipping?
damn no dev tag guess not
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722
My stance on WiS |
Terminal Insanity
Convex Enterprises
56
|
Posted - 2011.11.07 09:19:00 -
[229] - Quote
The Apostle wrote:
Nullsec people have "eve" the way it used to be. They left highsec and went to nullsec.
Highsec people don't want highsec to be nullsec. They want it to be highsec.
If they wanted highsec to be like nullsec they'd go to nullsec and then they'd be in nullsec and highsec would still be highsec...
The problem now is nullsec came to highsec saying they want nullsec like it "used to be".
But they came to highsec to do it....
Now highsec peeps are thinking of moving to nullsec because highsec is as tough as nullsec anyway.
Thought for today: Why have highsec?
Thought for tomorrow: Why have ANY sec?
Remove gateguns, Concord, wardecs and HTFU.
Make NO difference to miners whatever the **** you do.
Highsec people dont want highsec to be highsec, they want it to be fairytale safe-n-sound snuggleland. Highsec has -never- been safe. The term "highsec" is misleading, its not really HIGH security, its just HIGHER security.
Nullsec never 'came to highsec saying' whatever. There has -always- been pirates all over eve, high ,low, null sec alike. ALWAYS. This is the way eve has always been and should always be. This is the reason me and many people play this game, because theres nowhere to hide! You undock and you are putting your ship at risk, playing for keepsies mothefucker!
And now highsec people are thinking nullsec isnt so bad? HALLELUJAH! And the lights finally turned on!? Nullsec has NEVER been that much 'harder' then highsec. You just need to learn the game's rules, and learn how to use them to your advantage, and then nullsec becomes your playground, instead of your nightmare.
The only reason nullsec people stay out of high/lowsec is because we enjoy interdiction bubbles, bombs, jumpbridges to get ahead of enemies, etc etc etc, its just more fun.
I've always believed that a person who never plays with matches will be the one who gets burned =P Because he has no experience dealing with fire at all. The person playing with the fire will be careful the best he can, and learn to handle himself. If you never give nullsec a try, you'll never learn how to handle your ship, and you'll continue to lose them, even in highsec. |
Long John Silver
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
9
|
Posted - 2011.11.07 20:15:00 -
[230] - Quote
Making hisec into totalsec carebearland might not be a bad idea. It would make lowsec seem a really scary place to go...
Long John Silver | Pirate Alt-áand Forum Troll. |
|
|
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
233
|
Posted - 2011.11.08 18:41:00 -
[231] - Quote
Long John Silver wrote:Making hisec into totalsec carebearland might not be a bad idea. It would make lowsec seem a really scary place to go... It would be a terrible idea. I realize that you're extremely risk-averse, that the thought of PvP makes your skin crawl. Have you though about Star Trek Online?
EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke
EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic |
|
|
| |
|
| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 [8] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |