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Jackxter
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Posted - 2005.12.29 11:52:00 -
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Hey all
**** happens many ppl say!
well it happened to me yesterday.
I was killing some rat in a 0.4 sector. I was having a hard time killing the rat, but I was gonna kill it eventually...
All of a sudden a pirate  pops out of nowhere - me having 0 shield and 1/2 armor on my destroyer - shoots two missiles and my ship blows up. Pods me right after.
Now I am not here to whine, since I knew it was risky going into 0.4 space, but why did he kill me like that?
He killed me like a coward, when I was almost dead. Do pirates always behave this way?
And did he get a reward for killing me? Cozz he wasn't asking for money either...
Jack out 
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Luthair StoneDog
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Posted - 2005.12.29 11:56:00 -
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Well... he got a corpse for his hanger.. and some modules off your ship. And a couple of killmails. The killmails will have gone up on a kill board somewhere, and he'll have another few points next to his name.
To be honest.. he didn't attack you like a coward.. because 90% of pirates wouldn't have had any trouble with a new player in a destroyer even if you'd been at full shields. PvP can be scarce... and as a pirate.. I generally kill or ransom anything I can find. (Though usually nothing younger than a month.. lol.. I'm all heart.)
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Griffinator
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Posted - 2005.12.29 11:58:00 -
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unfortunately jack it seems as if you where greifed sometimes it happens that way next time dont bring a destroyer into a .4 system bring soemthing thats a bit bigger that way you at least have the ability to defend yourself a bit more.
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Ryles
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Posted - 2005.12.29 11:58:00 -
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Well at the end of the day, when all's said and done..it's just fun. Simple as.
But remember, you now have 24 hours of kill rights to extract revenge on this low life. He can be attacked anywhere; donĘt get mad, get even.
Good Luck
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Eviljohn
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Posted - 2005.12.29 12:00:00 -
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y does every thing need to be money driven?
Hes a killer
hes hunting
he finds u in range and can kill you
he does
I know its hard to understand but its as simple as that.
He would of been hunting in a few systems and jumped on u, should he go oh "well IM REALLY a nice person" and let u go or "MUHAHAHAHA im evil DIE PUNK".
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Revan Bloodmoon
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Posted - 2005.12.29 12:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Luthair StoneDog
Well... he got a corpse for his hanger.. and some modules off your ship. And a couple of killmails. The killmails will have gone up on a kill board somewhere, and he'll have another few points next to his name.
To be honest.. he didn't attack you like a coward.. because 90% of pirates wouldn't have had any trouble with a new player in a destroyer even if you'd been at full shields. PvP can be scarce... and as a pirate.. I generally kill or ransom anything I can find. (Though usually nothing younger than a month.. lol.. I'm all heart.)
yeh...i sooo need another credit card...14 days is not enough..lol
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2005.12.29 12:11:00 -
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I think the why is in the explosions.
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2005.12.29 12:16:00 -
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well guess I'm a fun easy target then... I'm learning.
if my corp wants to kill him, how can they find him...?
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DaMiGe
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Posted - 2005.12.29 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Eviljohn
y does every thing need to be money driven?
Hes a killer
hes hunting
he finds u in range and can kill you
he does
I know its hard to understand but its as simple as that.
He would of been hunting in a few systems and jumped on u, should he go oh "well IM REALLY a nice person" and let u go or "MUHAHAHAHA im evil DIE PUNK".
Gotta love him
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2005.12.29 12:30:00 -
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it does not have to be moneydriven, but I do like to keep some money on my account, and getting popped by pirates is not exactly profitable :)
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Grimwalius d'Antan
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Posted - 2005.12.29 12:31:00 -
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I used to be appalled with poddings, I used to think of them as unnecessary and down right evil. Now I see that they are just the headshots of Eve. "Oh sweet kill! You got the pod as well!". I curse everytime I see the pod of my target/enemy warp away. That is why Im always packing smartbombs on my battleships =D
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Iberi
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Posted - 2005.12.29 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jackxter
Hey all
**** happens many ppl say!
well it happened to me yesterday.
I was killing some rat in a 0.4 sector. I was having a hard time killing the rat, but I was gonna kill it eventually...
All of a sudden a pirate pops out of nowhere - me having 0 shield and 1/2 armor on my destroyer - shoots two missiles and my ship blows up. Pods me right after.
Now I am not here to whine, since I knew it was risky going into 0.4 space, but why did he kill me like that?
He killed me like a coward, when I was almost dead. Do pirates always behave this way?
And did he get a reward for killing me? Cozz he wasn't asking for money either...
Jack out
Because, average pirate is coward.
Because, average pirate is able to kill only weak targets.
Because, average pirate is sure that you will not get help/backup.
Do not care. Move upper into 0.5+ or monitor local channel most time
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2005.12.29 12:41:00 -
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Well I did try to warp out... but I guess my warp was scrambled, or whatever you call it...
Or can't a pod me scrambled?... anywayz it said warping to stargate blabla, but it did nothing...
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2005.12.29 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Iberi
Because, average pirate is coward.
Because, average pirate is able to kill only weak targets.
Because, average pirate is sure that you will not get help/backup.
Do not care. Move upper into 0.5+ or monitor local channel most time
two of my corp mates did go to the place but couldn't find him, at least they got my stuff in some cans...
guess he was long gone...
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Eviljohn
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Posted - 2005.12.29 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jackxter
Originally by: Iberi
Because, average pirate is coward.
Because, average pirate is able to kill only weak targets.
Because, average pirate is sure that you will not get help/backup.
Do not care. Move upper into 0.5+ or monitor local channel most time
two of my corp mates did go to the place but couldn't find him, at least they got my stuff in some cans...
guess he was long gone...
I guess he got bored waiting 3 hours
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Luthair StoneDog
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Posted - 2005.12.29 13:45:00 -
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Look.. I don't know where this thing about pirates being cowards comes from. It's stupidity. We're trying to make a living in the game.. with a certain amount of roleplaying (I say Yarr a bit.)
I attack battleships at gates, a couple of times I've been solo.. (sentries got me once.. :) Just because I also attack destroyers and cruisers doesn't make me a coward.
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2005.12.29 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Eviljohn
I guess he got bored waiting 3 hours
quite funny... haha... 
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Ange1
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Posted - 2005.12.29 13:48:00 -
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I collect corpses.
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2005.12.29 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Luthair StoneDog
Look.. I don't know where this thing about pirates being cowards comes from. It's stupidity. We're trying to make a living in the game.. with a certain amount of roleplaying (I say Yarr a bit.)
I attack battleships at gates, a couple of times I've been solo.. (sentries got me once.. :) Just because I also attack destroyers and cruisers doesn't make me a coward.
I didn't say all pirates were cowards, I'm just here for some information...
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Luthair StoneDog
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:05:00 -
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Yeh it was what's her name.. Iberi..
Jackxter.. don't take your podding personally. Fact is, the guy who *****ed your egg would expect the same from you, were the tables turned. He'd be a hypocrit if he didn't.
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:22:00 -
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I belive I saw you in Amamake. Which could explain the pirate etc...
I personally make it a point to kill newer players as often as I can. It comes down to the fact that If I dont kill them they just dont ever learn to watch out for pirates and then I come back later and have to blow up there first cruiser or Battleship because they cant pay the ransom.
So look at It this way if you had not been blown up then you would have probly been blown up later in a larger more expensive ship.
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Iberi
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Luthair StoneDog
Look.. I don't know where this thing about pirates being cowards comes from. It's stupidity.
No, it is pirate physiology. Attack as weak targets as possible.
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Rasitiln
I belive I saw you in Amamake. Which could explain the pirate etc...
I personally make it a point to kill newer players as often as I can. It comes down to the fact that If I dont kill them they just dont ever learn to watch out for pirates and then I come back later and have to blow up there first cruiser or Battleship because they cant pay the ransom.
So look at It this way if you had not been blown up then you would have probly been blown up later in a larger more expensive ship.
no I wasn't there.
you must have spotted another noob :)
btw great vision you have there... keep it up
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Iberi
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jackxter
I didn't say all pirates were cowards.
But most of them are cowards. There also a lot of brave idiots among pirates.
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Iberi
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: Iberi on 29/12/2005 14:35:44
Originally by: Rasitiln
I personally make it a point to kill newer players as often as I can.
As I said it is pure physiology. The pirate is the coward.
Originally by: Rasitiln
It comes down to the fact that If I dont kill them they just dont ever learn to watch out for pirates and then I come back later and have to blow up there first cruiser or Battleship because they cant pay the ransom.
It is lame excuse to kill innocent noobs on his first cruiser, isn't it, dude?
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:44:00 -
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Iberi please troll else where. your just spouting off generalities.
PS post with you main.
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Xtro 2
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:46:00 -
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Pirates kill, its kinda what they do, doesnt matter if its your ship or pod, doesnt matter how old you are, they dont even care if you care, a kill is simply a kill, in all honesty pirates dont care what it is they kill, if its there it dies, your not much of a pirate if you let lots of prey disappear.
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Iberi
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Rasitiln
Iberi please troll else where. your just spouting off generalities.
PS post with you main.
It has nothing with trolling. It is real life fact. Pirate is coward. What is wrong with this statement?
Notice, pls, I do not state that you personally are coward, NO-NO-NO. But pirate Rasitilin is coward(tbh, with 80% probability ). And this pirate uses lame excuses to justify hiself behaviour.
Please, separate you as person from you as a game character. 
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Cherad
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Iberi
Originally by: Luthair StoneDog
Look.. I don't know where this thing about pirates being cowards comes from. It's stupidity.
No, it is pirate physiology. Attack as weak targets as possible.
Physiology? What's it got to do with the way his body is put together? And "Attack as weak targets as possible", as opposed to attacking the strongest he can find?
Oh, wait, i get it. YAATAICM5P.
:-)
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Eviljohn
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Posted - 2005.12.29 15:06:00 -
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Most ppl with half a brain would only attack someone they think they could beat, at least pirates try.
Most honorable carebears , miners and agent runners fall into the coward classification as most dont even fire back and half log.
They just do the uber warror thing and post with alts moaning about how they got owned by a 12 year old coward that has mental problems
Btw im 13 this week send me isk for prezzys
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Zarithas
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Posted - 2005.12.29 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Zarithas on 29/12/2005 15:17:15
Originally by: Jackxter
Hey all
**** happens many ppl say!
well it happened to me yesterday.
I was killing some rat in a 0.4 sector. I was having a hard time killing the rat, but I was gonna kill it eventually...
All of a sudden a pirate pops out of nowhere - me having 0 shield and 1/2 armor on my destroyer - shoots two missiles and my ship blows up. Pods me right after.
Now I am not here to whine, since I knew it was risky going into 0.4 space, but why did he kill me like that?
He killed me like a coward, when I was almost dead. Do pirates always behave this way?
And did he get a reward for killing me? Cozz he wasn't asking for money either...
Jack out
Did he get a reward? At least 2.
-Any decent jettisoned modules
-The corpse
-The killmail
Not all pirates are after ransoms all the time, it just depends how the pirate is feeling or what he wants to do. He did not kill you like a coward, he almost definitely would've killed you whether you were fighting the rat or not.
Thank you for not whining though, at least you took it like a man and didn't do what some of the other posters do...
"A PIRATE KILLED ME 0.3 HE KILLED MY SHIP MY POD HE'S A ***** ******* %@#$@#$^&!@$$^^^**$$#%^$!!!!! CPP SHUD BAN HIM AND ANYONE LIEK HIM!"
Personally, I would say to just go ratting in 0.5 instead, you'll still get good rats there. Either that or bring friends into 0.4.
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Arhab
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Posted - 2005.12.29 15:26:00 -
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Killing someones pod serves only one purpose, its to destroy his implants, period. Its like pulling the wings off a fly, it serves no other purpose then some sadistic subconcious urge all humans have.
Killboard points? how many points do you get for destroying a pod?
Its a fair tactic in war since destroying pods makes the opponent lose more money in an attrition war/siege, but why pirates feel the need to pod, beside the sadistic thing is beyond me.
As far as collecting corpses goes, i so far have never seen anyone post screenshots or brag about the number of corpses they own.
my 2 isk.
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eve warrior
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Posted - 2005.12.29 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: eve warrior on 29/12/2005 15:26:15
Originally by: Eviljohn
Most ppl with half a brain would only attack someone they think they could beat, at least pirates try.
Most honorable carebears , miners and agent runners fall into the coward classification as most dont even fire back and half log.
They just do the uber warror thing and post with alts moaning about how they got owned by a 12 year old coward that has mental problems
Btw im 13 this week send me isk for prezzys
Dam, u are actualy 5 years older then me. 
Not to go off topic, Some of us kill just becase its what we do. I dont need isk, i dont need killmails, Its just that i sleep better at night knowing i have ruined someones day 
But i dont pod ppl unless i am at war with them. Its too heavy on the sec ratings these days after ccp nurfed the rats that gave a 0.8 sec increase in complex's. As once again CCP make life harder for Pirates
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Luthair StoneDog
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Posted - 2005.12.29 15:26:00 -
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Oh god yes.. bring friends to 0.4.. targets are getting a little scarce round where I live.
Also.. Iberi.. wtf? Where is the profit in ONLY attacking small weak targets? We have to attack bigger stronger targets if we want a decent payoff.
That's not to say we won't attack small fry when there is nothing else around.
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Eviljohn
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Posted - 2005.12.29 15:33:00 -
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i collect corpses to drop infront of gates
they dont jettison into cans and u can drop as many as u like, u drop a few hundred at a warp in point and it acts like a massive net and as most ppl dont have bio mass on overview there like wtf
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Luthair StoneDog
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Posted - 2005.12.29 15:37:00 -
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lol... actually. We have containers full of corpses.. it's a bit twisted, but good fun.
Oh and a pod is worth 50 points on our killboard.
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Iberi
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Posted - 2005.12.29 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Leon 026
Quote:
It is real life fact. Pirate is coward
Hey, here's another "real life fact". People that whine about pirates being cowards, are cowards themselves. If they werent, they'd stuck if up and go hunt the pirates themselves instead of complaining.
Yes, but usually these people do not try to play Big Bang Hero. Contrary to average pirate which is of course Real Hero. But in fact pirate is usual coward. Because there is nothing heroic in killing defenseless noobs, shuttles and industrials.
Quote:
Pirate's arent stupid, they are opportunists that attack weaker defended/armed ships to maximize efficiency for less risk for higher profit.
Sure. Stupid pirate has too short career.
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2005.12.29 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Arhab
Killing someones pod serves only one purpose, its to destroy his implants, period. Its like pulling the wings off a fly, it serves no other purpose then some sadistic subconcious urge all humans have.
Killboard points? how many points do you get for destroying a pod?
Its a fair tactic in war since destroying pods makes the opponent lose more money in an attrition war/siege, but why pirates feel the need to pod, beside the sadistic thing is beyond me.
As far as collecting corpses goes, i so far have never seen anyone post screenshots or brag about the number of corpses they own
my 2 isk.
/emote checks snigg killboard.... 10 points a pod
Really I pod because if we dont the person just stays in system scaring off targets (smacking) or hop in a ship just to setup to blow up said pirate ship.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2005.12.29 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jackxter
well guess I'm a fun easy target then... I'm learning.
if my corp wants to kill him, how can they find him...?
There are agent with a location service but they are bugged atm. Every region has at least one lvl3 agent that can find ppl in the whole universe. But if your corpies dont know this already they will most prob. not be able to use them.
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Athanaric
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Posted - 2005.12.29 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Athanaric on 29/12/2005 15:54:40
Speaking of bravery and cowardice in an anonymous, electronically-mediated, fictitious game world is a bit silly. If you feel courage is actually an element of video gaming, I encourage you to leave your mom's basement once in a while and interact with real humans. Like ask a girl out or something...that should take some 'courage.'
As to poddings and psychology:
Podding people reinforces that the pirate is not to be toyed with. Much like public hangings, it serves to beat the sheep-like general populace into mewling submission so that they pay their ransom (or taxes if you happen to be a 'legitimate' government). So while poddings may seem unfair and unnecessary at first (especially the random ones), it adds to the whole air of fear and danger surrounding the pirate. Thus, when one actually offers to let you live for a small fee, you'll feel relieved and pay it. This fear probably actually saves lives, by making people pay up and by discouraging the faint of heart from even entering low-sec space.
Also, explosions make my pants get all tight in front.
Edit: OP has a good attitude about the whole thing I think.
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Grimwalius d'Antan
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Posted - 2005.12.29 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Iberi
there is nothing heroic in killing defenseless noobs, shuttles and industrials.
No one has ever claimed that there is any honor in killing weaker targets. I don't care if people think so either, because it is the truth. Killing weaker targets is not honorable, nothing to argue here. However, when people with your shared opinion comes and says pirates are dishonorable, I lash back. Killing newbies does not make a pirate honorable, but it sure as hell does not make him automatically dishonorable.
There is no honor in paying taxes, going to work, going to school, spending your vacation with your family or buying a new car. Does this mean that the lack of honor extracted from these actions mean that they are dishonorable? Wouldn't that mean that every ordinary citizen such as yourself are lowlife scumbags without honor that deserves to be mocked in public by anonymous strangers?
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2005.12.29 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Athanaric
Edit: OP has a good attitude about the whole thing I think.
well tnx...
realy I can't be bothered with the loss of my ship, I have enough money as it is... I just wanted to know why pirates kill :). I admit it's a stupid question, but I wanted to know what kind of profit there was in killing for them...
anywayz the destroyer was the toughest ship I could fly with my skills... think it will be easier to fly my stabber into 0.4 space? I've got the skills today... or will I just get killed again...?
I mean at what point can I venture into unsecure space and have a chance at beating hostile ...
Jack out
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Luthair StoneDog
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Posted - 2005.12.29 16:23:00 -
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It's true.. all this discussion of honour and so forth is a little silly.
In the context of the game.. I'd say just about the only dishonourable thing a pirate could do is to ransom somebody and then kill 'em.
As far as honour goes... meh. I could take it or leave it. If I think I can kill you... I'll attack. If I don't.. I'll get some help or move on.
I'm honest... If I jump into your belt.. or you see me hovering over a gate, it doesn't take a genius to work out what comes next. I'm -9.6 lol... p.s if anybody wants to add to my bounty.. that would be great. It's pretty pathetic atm.
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milinkoee
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Posted - 2005.12.29 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jackxter
Now I am not here to whine, since I knew it was risky going into 0.4 space, but why did he kill me like that?
He killed you because you made yourself an easy target. He didn't appear out of nowhere. He was obviously in local before he found you volunerable in the belt. You just let your guard down.
He podded you because you weren't prepared to warp away once your ship blew up. A hint, turn off turret and all other effects (CTRL-ALT_Shift+E and CTRL-ALT_Shift+T). This way you won't lag so bad when the ship pops. As your ship is about to blow be ready to right click and warp to your safe spot, which you of course created on entering the >.4 system, right?
A few simple precautions would have prevented your getting podded and/or killed at all.
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Athanaric
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Posted - 2005.12.29 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jackxter
anywayz the destroyer was the toughest ship I could fly with my skills... think it will be easier to fly my stabber into 0.4 space? I've got the skills today... or will I just get killed again...?
I mean at what point can I venture into unsecure space and have a chance at beating hostile ...
Best bet is to train tanking and gunnery skills or bring friends. If solo, just expect to lose alot of ships in low sec. Honestly, ratting in a rifter and docking after every belt is a good way to keep your isk and not lose too much at a time. Avoid fitting tech 2 and expensive named mods. Don't fly in low sec with implants. Maybe fit warp core stabs if you don't mind running. Or gyros if you wanna fight it out .
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2005.12.29 16:46:00 -
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as I said I tried to warp, both with my ship and my pod, but it did not work and I was killed before anything happened...
and I am a new player so I realy don't know about these precautions you are talking about...
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milinkoee
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Posted - 2005.12.29 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jackxter
as I said I tried to warp, both with my ship and my pod, but it did not work and I was killed before anything happened...
and I am a new player so I realy don't know about these precautions you are talking about...
I believe I just posted them explicitly.
Most important, watch local like a hawk, right click "show info" any new contact in local. Negative sec status, safe spot immediately, don't finsh killing rat or picking up loot, just run to safe.
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Luthair StoneDog
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Posted - 2005.12.29 16:59:00 -
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Keep local open.. keep it seperate from everything else, and check the info of every new player who appears.
In Castor.. there was a blue ball thing in the bottom right of the screen. It was some kind of scanner.. but I have to say, it was bloody useless. I used to detatch the local chat window and sit it all by itself directly over the top of the useless radar display.
Keep your eye on local... it'll save your ship.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2005.12.29 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 29/12/2005 17:12:08
Until CCP removes alts, all noobs must pay for the actions of wealthy alliance folk who enjoy moving their bpo's around using alts in shuttles, noob ships, and any other crappy frig they can find.
I help noobs when I can, but if I see a random player trying to move around in his little frigate, I will kill it, because sometimes they drop the most valuable loot.
And killing pods is just a way to keep the smack down in local, and prevent the guy from warning all the timid people on the other side of the gate.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2005.12.29 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jackxter
and I am a new player so I realy don't know
Knowledge will not come to you by itself and it's not for free.
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$ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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Jark Mennings
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Posted - 2005.12.29 17:35:00 -
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I feel for you my friend, but the only way to learn lessons is to have them happen to you. Have a think about what you have learned from this...
1) .4 is no place for a destroyer on his own ratting
2) Player sec status below -5? guess whats coming next
3) Local chat is a useful tool
4) Warp Core stabs are your friends
5) Some pirates like the thrill of the hunt, some are skilled, some are not-so skilled , some are dangerous BUT most importantly avoid unless you are prepared and even then some of them have more tricks than David Copperfield. Pirating is not my cup of tea but without them EVE would not be the same.
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MWEI
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Posted - 2005.12.29 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: MWEI on 29/12/2005 22:40:37
uhm.. because its a game?
it reflects more on your arrogance to whine about being killed in low sercuity space.
if you dont like it, DONT GO THERE.
Why would anyone in CS stare at you when he can shoot you? When has "why" ever appeared into a game that involves blowing others up?
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Dan Black
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Posted - 2005.12.29 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jark Mennings
David Copperfield
= a wus at pirating!
anyhow, you can say pirates only gank noobs, but being new to the proffession, I say it's a damn hard job to make a living out.
You don't just gank NPC-ers without any defense, rather then their tank. You're also in low sec space, ALL the time, you have to fight other pirates. You have to watch out for ambushes 24/7. You can get ganked at a gate by campers while hunting.
But most of all. The skill of tracking someone down with your scanner before they've seen you in local. I wouldn't say the pirate proffession is one of cowards, rather then to see a nice and easy explosion Once In A While...
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Montague Zooma
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Posted - 2005.12.29 23:26:00 -
[54]
"Knowledge will not come to you by itself and it's not for free."
Fortune cookie platitudes, however, are a free all-you-can-eat buffet!
Welcome to Eve, Jackxter. You've just received your "this game can be brutal" wake-up call...it happens to many of us. It feels lousy at first, but you'll get used to it. And with luck and effort, you'll get even.
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Apian
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Posted - 2005.12.29 23:34:00 -
[55]
Most pirates are actully good pvpers; the bad ones die out. Although I do not believe that pirates should target the weaker players; let them grow into big fish that's worth spending time on =)
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Sakura Nihil
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Posted - 2005.12.30 00:43:00 -
[56]
because we can?
if ur fast, you can get ur pod outta there w/o much problem, only frigs or the T2 variants will have a chance at u (or gatecampers :) )
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Hadrian kadath
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Posted - 2005.12.30 01:59:00 -
[57]
Fed customs can track players, never tried it though.
As far as a why?
No clue, rather than an ego trip, but space sure seems has an abundance of ********s.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.12.30 02:09:00 -
[58]
First time getting podded? Erm... welcome to EvE.
Mine was Day Three in a hauler.
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Feriluce
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Posted - 2005.12.30 03:06:00 -
[59]
^^ Why is my alt the first in the dropdown list
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Xulnaga
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Posted - 2005.12.30 03:48:00 -
[60]
I saw it! I was horrified. 
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psylenz
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Posted - 2005.12.30 04:19:00 -
[61]
Well... to prove a point or to even disprove a point...
I just had a most honorable exchange with a pirate who basically offered a "free ride" and gave me much needed good advice.
To DE YANG, It was a pleasure to make your acquaintance. I hope to see you again... but way before you see me.
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Grankor
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Posted - 2005.12.30 07:25:00 -
[62]
I have a simple answer to these questions....
Because I can.
A little more detailed. I'll kill anything I can get my hands on. Its for the boom, the loot, and for the killmail. And for the satisfaction that someone, somewhere is squirming in their chair because I killed 'em.
Noobs ***** about being shot...Well, I ask you this. Are you not going to shoot a low bounty NPC, because he is a noob npc? Take pity on him because his loot isnt worth your time, and you are probably gonna spend more on ammo than you are gonna get back? no? You have no problem with this? Well, neither do I. I'll recycle your civilian shield booster, and sell you basic thermal hardner to another noob, to make and pay for more ammo, so that I can do it again to one of your buddies.
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doyouneedcash
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Posted - 2005.12.30 07:39:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Grankor
I have a simple answer to these questions....
Because I can.
A little more detailed. I'll kill anything I can get my hands on. Its for the boom, the loot, and for the killmail. And for the satisfaction that someone, somewhere is squirming in their chair because I killed 'em.
Noobs ***** about being shot...Well, I ask you this. Are you not going to shoot a low bounty NPC, because he is a noob npc? Take pity on him because his loot isnt worth your time, and you are probably gonna spend more on ammo than you are gonna get back? no? You have no problem with this? Well, neither do I. I'll recycle your civilian shield booster, and sell you basic thermal hardner to another noob, to make and pay for more ammo, so that I can do it again to one of your buddies.
lol i spend 10 min and go kill a 3x 1.9 mil BS spawn, but hey you keep recycling civilian shield boosters
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Sivxa
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Posted - 2005.12.30 07:48:00 -
[64]
its no easy task to lock a pod before the pilot warps out, too bad kill boards base points on bs's not on pods.
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Now recruiting all pvpers, maybe 1 or 2 of the carebear sorts
join channel "battlefodder" for recruiting details
CEO Battlefodder inc
Death is only the begining
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JoeT
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Posted - 2005.12.30 08:43:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Griffinator
unfortunately jack it seems as if you where greifed sometimes it happens that way next time dont bring a destroyer into a .4 system bring soemthing thats a bit bigger that way you at least have the ability to defend yourself a bit more.
I have taken many destoryers when i go pirate. always nice to pop curisers in them
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murder murder, yes indeed, K-I-L-L-I-N-G
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JoeT
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Posted - 2005.12.30 08:51:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Iberi
Yes, but usually these people do not try to play Big Bang Hero. Contrary to average pirate which is of course Real Hero. But in fact pirate is usual coward. Because there is nothing heroic in killing defenseless noobs, shuttles and industrials.
There is plenty of reason to kill indies.
They can be hauling fuel. or guns. or ships (once in a while, a few frigs). hauling BPCs/BPOs, fuel, ore, ect ect + the cargo mods.
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murder murder, yes indeed, K-I-L-L-I-N-G
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2005.12.30 09:36:00 -
[67]
Originally by: MWEI
Edited by: MWEI on 29/12/2005 22:40:37
uhm.. because its a game?
it reflects more on your arrogance to whine about being killed in low sercuity space.
if you dont like it, DONT GO THERE.
Why would anyone in CS stare at you when he can shoot you? When has "why" ever appeared into a game that involves blowing others up?
You are the arrogant one for not reading my post and replying like this.
I'm not whining, I just don't know what pirates get out of it... well I got my answers in this thread, but sure not because of you...
learn to read before you post dumb replies...
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.12.30 10:37:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Iberi
Because, average pirate is coward.
Because, average pirate is able to kill only weak targets.
Because, average pirate is sure that you will not get help/backup.
QFT!! Iberi can I have your love childs plz?  
Azuriel Talloth: If it ain't broke, change it so it mildly annoys the playerbase |
Iberi
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Posted - 2005.12.30 11:11:00 -
[69]
Originally by: JoeT
There is plenty of reason to kill indies.
They can be hauling fuel. or guns. or ships (once in a while, a few frigs). hauling BPCs/BPOs, fuel, ore, ect ect + the cargo mods.
There is only one reason to kill indy: it is safe action for pirate. All other reasons are secondary.
Yes, another point: generally pirates are weak in PvP.
Pirates just not need good skills in PvP.
Also obtaining these skills is to risky for pirates.
Most important pirate skill is RUNNING AWAY skill. "So any guy decided to become pirates MUST learn Science of Running Away"(c) Iberi
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Tony Fats
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Posted - 2005.12.30 13:12:00 -
[70]
Eve is a sharktank.
You're asking why the shark chewed on your leg. Why do you kill people in counterstrike?
To see your kill counter go up by 1.
Doesn't matter. Fair, unfair, ready, not ready, half shields, full shields, just ate a sandwich, afk, drinking water, scratching your nose, it doesn't matter, you're a +1 kill in his killmail counter.
You have to remember, in this business having an evil reputation is good.
If someone with a 0.0 status convos you and asks for money, you're gonna be like "pfft I aint giving some carebear my money."
If someone with a -10 and 50 mil bounty convos you, there's a pretty good chance that the victim is gonna schit their pants, pay the local mining tax and go about their bidness.
So the answer is
1) Its good for business to be brutal
2) Because its fun to see you blow up
3) Need the +1 kill counter
4) To see if you will drop a module
5) To practice killing and be better at it
6) All of the above
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CCP Janitor
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Posted - 2005.12.30 13:15:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Iberi
Originally by: JoeT
There is plenty of reason to kill indies.
They can be hauling fuel. or guns. or ships (once in a while, a few frigs). hauling BPCs/BPOs, fuel, ore, ect ect + the cargo mods.
There is only one reason to kill indy: it is safe action for pirate. All other reasons are secondary.
Yes, another point: generally pirates are weak in PvP.
Pirates just not need good skills in PvP.
Also obtaining these skills is to risky for pirates.
Most important pirate skill is RUNNING AWAY skill. "So any guy decided to become pirates MUST learn Science of Running Away"(c) Iberi
Please stop crying, all your tears are making a mess on the carpet. I don't want to have to get it steam cleaned. The library is the second door on the left, please get an education.
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2005.12.30 13:36:00 -
[72]
everybody his own job I always say :p
why all the whining all the time...
I'm just gonna learn how to pop pirate vessels :D
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.12.30 14:40:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Jackxter
I'm just gonna learn how to pop pirate vessels
Now thaaaaaaaaaaat's the spirit!
Barriers - an EVE novel |
Crucifier
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Posted - 2005.12.30 14:50:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Crucifier on 30/12/2005 14:50:55
Originally by: Iberi
Originally by: JoeT
There is plenty of reason to kill indies.
They can be hauling fuel. or guns. or ships (once in a while, a few frigs). hauling BPCs/BPOs, fuel, ore, ect ect + the cargo mods.
There is only one reason to kill indy: it is safe action for pirate. All other reasons are secondary.
Yes, another point: generally pirates are weak in PvP.
Pirates just not need good skills in PvP.
Also obtaining these skills is to risky for pirates.
Most important pirate skill is RUNNING AWAY skill. "So any guy decided to become pirates MUST learn Science of Running Away"(c) Iberi
omg, i hate when noobs like you think its so easy beeing a pirate. I mean stop whining and at least have the guts to post with your main you noob |
Winston VanSantz
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Posted - 2005.12.30 16:05:00 -
[75]
I solo .4s in my destroyer all the time. I know its risky, but the rewrd is so much better than .5s, and until I get a cruiser, lvl 2 missions are kinda outta of the question ( yes I've tried them). You just have to be extra cautious. Use the map. Check for kills and ships destroyed before you make your destination. The "show pilots active in space in the last 30 mins" ( or something like that) is very hard to read, but if you can get it to work, is i invaluable. Find a .4 with no one in it if you can. Keep your eye on local chat at all times. Anyone on there, check them out, see how long they've beenn on, their sec rating, etc. If another palyer pops up at yor belt, leave immediately. Wait to check out what ship their flying until you have already initiated warp. ( also, there's an option in the overview settings to show ship type, ths way avoiding the whole renaming confusion. i.e. pirates will often label their ships as somethign else like calling a harpy "so and So's Merlin")
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Sakura Nihil
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Posted - 2005.12.30 16:20:00 -
[76]
if you dont want to get caught by pirates, its as simple as fitting a warp core stab or two, and having safespots in the area you operate in - gatecamps are the only other thing to worry about, and u can determine their location from the map
as to why we kill indys and everything, path of least resistance tbh - barges and indys are great targets due to the possible loot they have, the nice ransom they'll fetch, and the lack of resistance they offer. however, I'm not afraid to go against another ship in my class size, say BC on BC.
yarrr and all that
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Moghydin
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Posted - 2005.12.30 17:09:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Moghydin on 30/12/2005 17:09:18
Pirates kill because they are pirates. They play the game to kill things, to get your loot and pod. Most PvP in this game is non-concensual. It's not a cowardice but a tactical move, to engage the enemy when you have most chances of winning and the enemy has least chances of winning. So if you want to stay out of PvP, stay out of low sec and may be you'll never be killed by another player. But if you go to low sec, stop whining and shoot back if you cannot run.
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Deathhawk
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Posted - 2005.12.30 17:50:00 -
[78]
becausw i can crush you with my little finger... or is it cos i cant kill anything bigger? hmm
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Noma Reestragan
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Posted - 2005.12.30 19:09:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Leon 026
Quote:
It is real life fact. Pirate is coward
Real life fact. Pirates are ex-navy soldiers of monkish orders like the Knights of St.Stephano and dont say "yarr" all the time.
Hey, here's another "real life fact". People that whine about pirates being cowards, are cowards themselves. If they werent, they'd stuck if up and go hunt the pirates themselves instead of complaining.
Pirate's arent stupid, they are opportunists that attack weaker defended/armed ships to maximize efficiency for less risk for higher profit.
A single pirate attacking a battleship fleet to "pirate" them isnt brave, its stupidity with unnecessary risks. Its about efficiency.
Smartest thing said here. That from a Born Again n00b. Yea I quit once before Exodus was deployed.
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vile56
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Posted - 2005.12.30 19:34:00 -
[80]
i sit in my 100+mil bs and pop noob ships so i can fondle myself.
if i see a destroyer i run away because he might have 7 scrams on and i only have 6 stabs on
i wonder if i dont say sarcasm at the end of this is people would belive what i wrote.
so sarcasm
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President Commonwealth
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Posted - 2005.12.31 07:50:00 -
[81]
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=270158
if this is implemented to the game it will bring great balance to the game and new players dont despair. for all those bad ppl that like to inflic pain without concecuences this would be theyr reward.
Originally by: Mesasone
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Hopefully when Kali comes out in god knows how many months, contracts will be in, and with luck, CCP will allow you to contract out your kill rights, making bounty hunting possible. If they do, sign me up!
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THIS IS THE BEST IDEA FOR BALANCE I EVER HEARD, u must be a genius, keep this good ideas coming.
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Luthair StoneDog
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Posted - 2005.12.31 12:40:00 -
[82]
lol.. Carebears don't realise how unbalanced the game is in their favour. Just have a wee think for a minute.. on how much of a disadvantage being an outlaw actually is.
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GoGo Yubari
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Posted - 2005.12.31 14:02:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Athanaric
As to poddings and psychology:
Podding people reinforces that the pirate is not to be toyed with. Much like public hangings, it serves to beat the sheep-like general populace into mewling submission so that they pay their ransom (or taxes if you happen to be a 'legitimate' government). So while poddings may seem unfair and unnecessary at first (especially the random ones), it adds to the whole air of fear and danger surrounding the pirate. Thus, when one actually offers to let you live for a small fee, you'll feel relieved and pay it. This fear probably actually saves lives, by making people pay up and by discouraging the faint of heart from even entering low-sec space.
Nicely put. That's a good way to look at it.
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lord lex
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Posted - 2005.12.31 20:54:00 -
[84]
I will kill anything tbh not becuse its weaker than me but becuse it happens to be there if im hunting and i see a destryer ill kill it. Pirateing is becomeing real hard people flying ships with more stabs than i got guns and with the hugeness of eve finding people can be hard especialy with the new fecking astroid not being in space thing. But soemtimes if the noob convos me i will give him a new ship and some isk. i wont pod uless people smack me or anything like that. Its jsut a game in the end...... if your still bummed convo me and ill help you out a bit
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Lexa A
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Posted - 2005.12.31 20:55:00 -
[85]
********************** ***** ****** alt being first GOD DAM YOU CCP
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Louis DelaBlanche
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Posted - 2006.01.01 03:07:00 -
[86]
while i dont condone piracy, it isnt right to call pirates cowards, as ppl above have said. It may not be heroic taking on smaller vessels then oneself but at least you stay alive. Since pirates (& not being one I am only guessing) probably cant afford to risk loosing thier ships willie nillie, it makes sense not attacking superior vessels. Podding, I must admit, is something I dont sympathise with all that much unless its necessary (as i understand it you need to pod some1 to get their bounty, forgive me if im wrong), but I can see why some may indulge in such actions. As long as pirates leave me alone im sure my opinions wont change.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.01.01 04:00:00 -
[87]
Some ppl pod because they can.
Then again, one day you can also pod them back, because you can.
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GoGo Yubari
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Posted - 2006.01.01 17:09:00 -
[88]
Edited by: GoGo Yubari on 01/01/2006 17:09:39
From the piratical (with intent to making a profit) perspective, I don't understand the insta-podding mentality. However, the threat of podding and the ransoming is a very solid way of making money. Surely this is obvious! Of course, not many people actually pay, which is stupid - refusing to pay will not make pirates disappear (contrarywise to the commonly held belief).
From the making-big-explosions-and-generally-blowing-stuff-up-for-kicks point of view, what's not to understand?
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Androo Darger
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:41:00 -
[89]
i got podded i sort of expected as i aproached a 0.0 system, i hoped being in somthing crappy they would see me as a non threat and ignore me. Still i took out insurance made sure my clone had more skill points than me and tried my luck.
After being blowin up 30 seconds after porting in and then podded 5 seconds afterwards i had a nice chat with someone who explained why i got podded and it was basically down to the fact they didnt like neutrals and were holding the system for themselves.
I didnt run and complain to everyone in the channel i sort of accepted it and they even sent me 500k to rebuy my ship which was probbly more than it was worth. Still it was a valuable lesson to learn and im glad i learned it at LOW levels than high levels. which is basically "dont go to a 0.0 grade system unless your prepared to die IE insurances and Clone"
pvp is fun and like folk say why would a pirate suicide against somthing much larger than themselves, I got the whole honour and courage crap from daoc regarding grey ganking. The fact is you need to teach folks that a pvp oriented game has no room for carebears. If i was going to make a run through a 0.0 system in somthing big then i might consider doing a run first in a shuttle and asking folks if they would mind or how much protection money i would have to fork up before i went through.
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Masu'di
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Posted - 2006.01.01 19:20:00 -
[90]
simpy because they can |
Tecam Hund
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Posted - 2006.01.01 20:27:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Iberi
Originally by: Jackxter
I didn't say all pirates were cowards.
But most of them are cowards. There also a lot of brave idiots among pirates.
Where is that fine line between the coward and a brave idiot?
Its always amazing how people get upset when you try to take out a mining barge in front of 3 battleships and warp away when it gets hot, and call you a coward. Or they call you a brave idiot if you decide to stay, take your chances and die. You could say that a good pirate would not lose, but then pirate who doesn't ever lose has to hunt people who are much weaker than him; thus he is called a coward....
And as for killing destroyers and podding new players. First reason is that targets are rare, and usually sit in stations for hours even if you try to stay around. Secondly, no kill is a waste. Let them hate us as long as they fear us.
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.01.01 20:29:00 -
[92]
Corpses are win! Who cares where they come from?
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Damon Runyon
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Posted - 2006.01.02 01:25:00 -
[93]
Having (very) recently become a pirate, and having been podded and ransomed several times, I can see both sides. I used to feel, pretty vehemently, that pirating (at least of a certain kind) was just robbing people of their enjoyment of the game. Getting popped by Ginger Magician in an Apoc when I was three days old was not a good first impression .
Later on I lost some ships (Ruptures mainly) that I had spent a lot of care and attention on to pirates. One or two of them were just gits and deserved the completely impotent flaming I gave them on local . Others (like Mr Da Vinci) were a bit kinder and spent some time explaining their point of view to me.
Now I'm just incredibly bored with missions, so just joined a PvP corp and just popped my first Brutix . But I am determined to be polite, sympathetic and honest with people.
Damon
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Dale Cussler
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Posted - 2006.01.02 01:50:00 -
[94]
To be honest, I have no problems podding a noob. If you're in lowsec or 0.0, you're either aware of the risk associated with being there, or you were just made painfully aware of said risks.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.01.02 02:17:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Masu'di
simpy because they can
Podito ergo sum?
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2006.01.02 12:26:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Podito ergo sum?
thanks for the translation, i'm a native latin speaker...
on-topic:
-->all in all we can decide most ppl just don't read my post and call me a whiner...
-->conclusion is pirating is fun :), and I am now in someone's mailbox... weehee..., next time he will be in mine
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.01.02 13:10:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Jackxter
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Podito ergo sum?
thanks for the translation, i'm a native latin speaker...
on-topic:
-->all in all we can decide most ppl just don't read my post and call me a whiner...
-->conclusion is pirating is fun :), and I am now in someone's mailbox... weehee..., next time he will be in mine
In comical sense, it means "I pod, therefore I can".
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Iberi
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Posted - 2006.01.02 13:34:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Originally by: Iberi
Originally by: Jackxter
I didn't say all pirates were cowards.
But most of them are cowards. There also a lot of brave idiots among pirates.
Where is that fine line between the coward and a brave idiot?
Coward will warp at any sign of warship presense and save own life and money.
Brave idiot will attack warship and die.
Quote:
Its always amazing how people get upset when you try to take out a mining barge in front of 3 battleships and warp away when it gets hot, and call you a coward.
Aggression in front of 3 BS leads you to the your death. Or you require afk battleships?
Quote:
Or they call you a brave idiot if you decide to stay, take your chances and die.
They are right. You are brave idiot. Much more simple way is selfdestructing. And this way is quite annoying for other people.
Quote:
Secondly, no kill is a waste. Let them hate us as long as they fear us.
It is difficult to fear such buisance as pirate in boat. Isn't it? Particularly having PvP fit.
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2006.01.02 14:26:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
In comical sense, it means "I pod, therefore I can".
I know, as I said I'm a native latin speaker... =)
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ShipOholic
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Posted - 2006.01.02 15:50:00 -
[100]
Its true that the #1 human motivator is Money.
But in the end, money is used to satisfy your interrests.
If you have the tools you need todo what you like, you dont need more Money.
If you are hungry and you see food on a table and next to the it is money.
Do you eat the food or take the money?
All depends on how hungry you are.
It is true some eat the food and take the money, it all comes down to a choice.
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2006.01.02 16:08:00 -
[101]
Originally by: ShipOholic
Its true that the #1 human motivator is Money.
But in the end, money is used to satisfy your interrests.
If you have the tools you need todo what you like, you dont need more Money.
If you are hungry and you see food on a table and next to the it is money.
Do you eat the food or take the money?
All depends on how hungry you are.
It is true some eat the food and take the money, it all comes down to a choice.
I would eat the money 
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2006.01.02 16:15:00 -
[102]
1. They didnt pay the 9 mil for ransom which is really low and surprising only about 10% of people podded take that option
2. They were too close to the gate when their ship got destroyed
3. they were war targets
This is one of the reasons you got podded if I was there.
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2006.01.02 16:29:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Dirtball
Edited by: Dirtball on 02/01/2006 16:15:27
1. They didnt pay the 9 mil for ransom which is really low and surprising only about 10% of people who lose ships take that option
2. They were too close to the gate when their ship got destroyed
3. they were war targets
This is one of the reasons you got podded if I was there.
don't see me paying 9M isk in stead of having you annihilate my destroyer :)...
btw don't you adjust your ransom to the target? you'd make more money...
I don't thnk I would ever pay a ransom, unless it's realy low compared to a ship loss... for most people it's a pride thing I guess :p
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2006.01.02 19:10:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Jackxter
Originally by: Dirtball
Edited by: Dirtball on 02/01/2006 16:15:27
1. They didnt pay the 9 mil for ransom which is really low and surprising only about 10% of people who lose ships take that option
2. They were too close to the gate when their ship got destroyed
3. they were war targets
This is one of the reasons you got podded if I was there.
don't see me paying 9M isk in stead of having you annihilate my destroyer :)...
btw don't you adjust your ransom to the target? you'd make more money...
I don't think I would ever pay a ransom, unless it's realy low compared to a ship loss... for most people it's a pride thing I guess :p
After a month of flying with -c-f- our 0.0 op team was asking everyone for 25 mil for pods about 50 pods later and no isk we decided to alter our ransoming policy.
Most people can't stomach paying someone who just blew them up, but if its gonna take you an hour just to get back to the same system and it's even less then a new clone alone then less than ten figures seems very reasonable.
For pilots who don't do much to make isk outside of loot 3 mil a piece is way better than hearing the squish.
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Melindhra
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Posted - 2006.01.02 20:26:00 -
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I just got podded about half an hour ago, because I tried to comply with the pirates and pay their toll, but could not transfer ISK to them because I am on a trial account. I understand that there is a risk associated with going into lower security level space (0.4 in this case), but does this do the community any good to blow up a newbie because of a trial account restriction? I may very well take up their line of work one day as I have in other games, but I can't see that I'd go after absolute newbies. What's the fun in that? I'd rather get them when they have more to offer. There's something so unappealing about being able to shoot someone once and blow up their ship.
= = = = = SNIP = = = = =
Melindhra > Here I am.
Melindhra > So what do you guys want?
Lifewire > what is you player age and cargo
Melindhra > 7 days ... no cargo.
Lifewire > 100k
Melindhra > ...
Lifewire > 50?
pfffft > u got 5 secs
pfffft > 4
Melindhra > If I have no choice, sure. Who do I give the money to?
Melindhra > And how do I give money?
Apocalypsee > dont give em money
Lifewire > rightclick me, give money
pfffft > 3
Apocalypsee > shoot him instead
pfffft > 2
pfffft > 1
Judarius Kithrax > BOOM
Judarius Kithrax > BANG BANG
Judarius Kithrax > lol
pfffft > nah ... just fun
Lifewire > nah
Melindhra > I can only orbit, keep at range, etc.
Melindhra > No option to give money.
pfffft > as long as he doesn¦t move
Melindhra > He? I'm a she.
Judarius Kithrax > right click his name in the chat box
Lifewire > rightlick me, "give money"
Melindhra > Oh in chat. Thanks.
Judarius Kithrax > theres an option for give money
Lifewire > still waiting for Iskies
Melindhra > It says I can't transfer because I am on a trial account.
Melindhra > So should I just stay here for the next 7 days?
Lifewire > thats really bad
Judarius Kithrax > Now heres a funny thing to do; pay the toll, go to the other system on the other side of this one, warn everyone theres pirates here blockading the jump and ruin thier business
Lifewire > just go away
Judarius Kithrax > oops
Melindhra > Oh .. so you guys blow me up. nice.
EVE System > Channel changed to Bourynes Local
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Vegeir
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Posted - 2006.01.02 20:30:00 -
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News flash.
We're all murderers, we are all control freaks. You want to control your safety, your experience. I want to control your lack there of. He who is stronger wins.
In the end I am the only one in control. My safety and my strength are my and brothers' manifestation. Many of you pay out your souls for Concord to control your world. A brittle shell, a simple illusion, that safety is no more tangible then a dream. Reality is that empire is no safer then 0.0.
Every day so many pay dearly for that lie, the precious whispered reassurance in their ear. There is only one inevitability, your number will come up one day. When the warriors you so faithfully entrust roll over and show their bloated bellys, fat with the life and freedom they've taxed from you, you will realize how vulnerable you really are. How vast and uncaring the universe can be.
This is the fate you accept. I do not. May you find your enlightenment as I have, before it is too late. You still have a chance.
Originally by: Irashi
88% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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Tecam Hund
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Posted - 2006.01.02 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Iberi
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Where is that fine line between the coward and a brave idiot?
Coward will warp at any sign of warship presense and save own life and money.
Brave idiot will attack warship and die.
Exactly my point. If one warps away, he is a coward. If one usually decides to fight, sooner or later he will lose, so he is a brave idiot.
Ladies and gentlemen, its now a proven fact that all pirates are either cowards or brave idiots. However all credit goes to the one and only who showed us the light - Iberi!
I am sorry about this being a bit off topic, but I just could not resist the opportunity.
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Queen Maui
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Posted - 2006.01.03 01:03:00 -
[108]
Sounds like the same conversations from UO, except with Spaceships. Good to see gaming hasn't changed over the years.
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Teles666
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Posted - 2006.01.03 09:37:00 -
[109]
Most pirates are just playing counterstrike in space - especially so the lone hunters. I far prefer the pirate corps, the hunting packs and people who try to lock down systems.
They all gank me the same tho, just I feel more involved if I'm properly ganked :)
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Iberi
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Posted - 2006.01.03 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tecam Hund
Originally by: Iberi
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Where is that fine line between the coward and a brave idiot?
Coward will warp at any sign of warship presense and save own life and money.
Brave idiot will attack warship and die.
Exactly my point. If one warps away, he is a coward. If one usually decides to fight, sooner or later he will lose, so he is a brave idiot.
It is a sad reality. Warship is testing tool for a pirate.
Quote:
Ladies and gentlemen, its now a proven fact that all pirates are either cowards or brave idiots. However all credit goes to the one and only who showed us the light - Iberi!
Thank you.
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Jackxter
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Posted - 2006.01.03 09:54:00 -
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proper ganking makes the experience so much nicer...
time for me to get in a shuttle, fly to 0.0 and live the experience... :D
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2006.01.03 10:45:00 -
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Edited by: Lifewire on 03/01/2006 10:43:56
Quote:
Lifewire > just go away
I told you to warp away - without paying. Since you had a trial account you cannot pay a toll. You should have warped away. However, it was a trial account and you could test how tolling works, or not?
Next time have a real account, then you are able to pay a toll, ok?
All this is a general problem: CCP cares a lot about coding new stuff, but every patch they forget to code the "strike colors button". This would be an option for a player to surrender and imobilize his ship for the time being in "Strike colors mode". This mode would offer time for roleplay tollings. Try to see it from a pirate view: if a ship is able to warp or move to the gate, what can be done to stop it??? Sure, you can web and scramble it. But then tank the sentrys for the time of the convo and tolling??? Hm, no - we simply shoot it down if the pilot doesnt offer to pay a toll and pays in time. It¦s CCPs fault and i really hope that the next patch offers some good pirate features like the srike colors button.
Until there is a solution our way is to open fire at any target that didnt offer to pay a toll directly after entering local chat.
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K'reemy G'udness
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Posted - 2006.01.03 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jackxter
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
In comical sense, it means "I pod, therefore I can".
I know, as I said I'm a native latin speaker... =)
Wow, a native latin speaker! What was it like growing up in Vatican City or ancient Rome???
So, Cogito Ergo Sum roughly means "I think, therefore I am", everyone knows that.
Since Podito doesn't have a Latin equivilant that I can find, let's the use the Spanish verb poder, 'to be able': "I am able therefore I am". Or "I am a little pod therefore I am"? Thats no good.
How about: iugularo ergo sum, I murder because I am. I think that's the right ablative tense, but my Latin is ****.
Love,
K'reemy  G'udness
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