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Astenion
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.27 11:50:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've had Astenion blocked for quite awhile. Highly recommend this defensive action.
Will have to avert my eyes from any quoting or the stupid will infect my mind.
I really don't understand why. We share the same outlook for the most part.
Not that you'll see this, but I'll post it anyway. |

Angelique Duchemin
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:01:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've had Astenion blocked for quite awhile. Highly recommend this defensive action.
Will have to avert my eyes from any quoting or the stupid will infect my mind.
Seems kind of weak to have anyone blocked. Why do words frighten you? We miss you Saede. In-depth guide on how to safely mine in High Sec |

Astenion
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:16:00 -
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Tbh, I really don't know, hehe. Sure, I speak with conviction and sometimes I come across as a bit harsh, but it's not like I stoop to personal attacks or anything. I'm quite a progressive. Hell, I left the US to live in Europe.
Unless he supports The Tea Party or any other neocon chickenhawks, I really have nothing against him, and even then it's just me trying to get my point across. Maybe I should do it in a better way, but it's a pet peeve of mine whenever someone speaks out of ignorance. That said, Krixtal Icefluxor doesn't seem to be one of those types. |

Astenion
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:17:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've had Astenion blocked for quite awhile. Highly recommend this defensive action.
Will have to avert my eyes from any quoting or the stupid will infect my mind. Seems kind of weak to have anyone blocked. Why do words frighten you? Edit: Astenion, "unlike" this post this minute. It was a general response and not meant to lend any support to you personally.
No. 
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Astenion
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:26:00 -
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Back to the topic at hand, this is a nightmare scenario for the US and her allies. There will be no good outcome, as they'll be fighting for the one who will retaliate the least. It's going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.
I echo Grimpak's thoughts on the matter. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:30:00 -
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Snagletooth Johnson wrote:Alpheias wrote:Graygor wrote:
Ive been buying up oil futures for months on this reason.
You are aware that you are profiteering from a war? Basically saying "I am feasting on the cadavers of dead Syrians". The best cadavers are the profitable ones. but seriously, buying stock isn't war profiteering. Buying up all the grain, then waiting until the government finally pays you 10x it's worth is war profiteering.
Sure. And buying stock, looking to profit, when the Syrian civil has been going for two years and counting, where thousands have lost their lives is just ******* dandy? Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Astenion
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:31:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Snagletooth Johnson wrote:Alpheias wrote:Graygor wrote:
Ive been buying up oil futures for months on this reason.
You are aware that you are profiteering from a war? Basically saying "I am feasting on the cadavers of dead Syrians". The best cadavers are the profitable ones. but seriously, buying stock isn't war profiteering. Buying up all the grain, then waiting until the government finally pays you 10x it's worth is war profiteering. Sure. And buying stock, looking to profit, when the Syrian civil has been going for two years and counting, where thousands have lost their lives is just ******* dandy?
Not just thousands, but over 100,000.
Think Wembley Stadium seats + over 10,000 more. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:35:00 -
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Astenion wrote:Alpheias wrote:Snagletooth Johnson wrote:Alpheias wrote:Graygor wrote:
Ive been buying up oil futures for months on this reason.
You are aware that you are profiteering from a war? Basically saying "I am feasting on the cadavers of dead Syrians". The best cadavers are the profitable ones. but seriously, buying stock isn't war profiteering. Buying up all the grain, then waiting until the government finally pays you 10x it's worth is war profiteering. Sure. And buying stock, looking to profit, when the Syrian civil has been going for two years and counting, where thousands have lost their lives is just ******* dandy? Not just thousands, but over 100,000.
Oh, gee. Thanks! That makes me feel so much better about the human lives lost. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Astenion
The Scope Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:38:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Oh, gee. Thanks! That makes me feel so much better about the human lives lost.
I'm not trying to make you feel bad, just put things in perspective at how much of an atrocity it is. What's more, thousands more will die if there is a war, only now we know there are chemical weapons in play.
At least you actually feel bad about something, unlike those who go on about their day blissfully ignorant as long as it doesn't affect them. |

Astenion
The Scope Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:45:00 -
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And now the false flag tinfoil hat-wearers are coming out en masse, gleefully linking their Alex Jones-esque websites on facebook. |
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Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
54709
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:46:00 -
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Like i said i served in an armoured brigade so my knowledge of aerial matters is limited. But from my interaction with IAF officers in the mess was that the US tends to go for the multi-pronged approach with various sources of attack and basically overwhelm the enemy. While Israel which lacks the punch of the USAF goes for under the radar surgical strikes which are fast and as quiet as possible. Vis a vis the Syrian nuclear reactor in 2007 (that publicly even shocked washington in public at least) or ****** in the 80s. Or the recent weapons shipments to Syria.
It wasnt a criticism of the American air force, just an observation from what IAF officers have told me and a few of the serving US crews who came over. They tended to be put through their paces well by the IAF teams who did this sort of things for a living and often finish with a hell of a lot of respect for their Israeli counterparts.
Either way, I'd prefer everyone to stay out of this. God knows what Hezbollah and the IRGC will do in Lebanon and the Persian gulf. And as someone who has a lot of family and friends in Northern Israel id rather not find out. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:48:00 -
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Astenion wrote:Alpheias wrote:Oh, gee. Thanks! That makes me feel so much better about the human lives lost. I'm not trying to make you feel bad, just put things in perspective at how much of an atrocity it is. What's more, thousands more will die if there is a war, only now we know there are chemical weapons in play.
Feel bad? My friend, I am beyond enraged. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
54709
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:49:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Snagletooth Johnson wrote:Alpheias wrote:Graygor wrote:
Ive been buying up oil futures for months on this reason.
You are aware that you are profiteering from a war? Basically saying "I am feasting on the cadavers of dead Syrians". The best cadavers are the profitable ones. but seriously, buying stock isn't war profiteering. Buying up all the grain, then waiting until the government finally pays you 10x it's worth is war profiteering. Sure. And buying stock, looking to profit, when the Syrian civil has been going for two years and counting, where thousands have lost their lives is just ******* dandy?
So do all the pension schemes etc and other investment funds which take care of millions of people in the west. They follow the money and buy low sell high just like private individuals. Therefore pension funds could be said to be blood money.
Only way to not make money off anothers suffering if to basically do everything yourself and go on a subsistence living.
Im not trying to justify it, but thats how the world works. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:52:00 -
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Graygor wrote:Like i said i served in an armoured brigade so my knowledge of aerial matters is limited. But from my interaction with IAF officers in the mess was that the US tends to go for the multi-pronged approach with various sources of attack and basically overwhelm the enemy. While Israel which lacks the punch of the USAF goes for under the radar surgical strikes which are fast and as quiet as possible. Vis a vis the Syrian nuclear reactor in 2007 (that publicly even shocked washington in public at least) or ****** in the 80s. Or the recent weapons shipments to Syria.
It wasnt a criticism of the American air force, just an observation from what IAF officers have told me and a few of the serving US crews who came over. They tended to be put through their paces well by the IAF teams who did this sort of things for a living and often finish with a hell of a lot of respect for their Israeli counterparts.
Either way, I'd prefer everyone to stay out of this. God knows what Hezbollah and the IRGC will do in Lebanon and the Persian gulf. And as someone who has a lot of family and friends in Northern Israel id rather not find out.
What is the matter, Graygor? Family not worth losing for all the money that you are making? Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Astenion
The Scope Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:55:00 -
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Graygor wrote:Like i said i served in an armoured brigade so my knowledge of aerial matters is limited. But from my interaction with IAF officers in the mess was that the US tends to go for the multi-pronged approach with various sources of attack and basically overwhelm the enemy. While Israel which lacks the punch of the USAF goes for under the radar surgical strikes which are fast and as quiet as possible. Vis a vis the Syrian nuclear reactor in 2007 (that publicly even shocked washington in public at least) or ****** in the 80s. Or the recent weapons shipments to Syria.
It wasnt a criticism of the American air force, just an observation from what IAF officers have told me and a few of the serving US crews who came over. They tended to be put through their paces well by the IAF teams who did this sort of things for a living and often finish with a hell of a lot of respect for their Israeli counterparts.
Either way, I'd prefer everyone to stay out of this. God knows what Hezbollah and the IRGC will do in Lebanon and the Persian gulf. And as someone who has a lot of family and friends in Northern Israel id rather not find out.
Ah, it's clear now. Your original post made it sound like you were armchair general-ing USAF employment doctrine. Hope I wasn't too harsh. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:57:00 -
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Graygor wrote:
So do all the pension schemes etc and other investment funds which take care of millions of people in the west. They follow the money and buy low sell high just like private individuals. Therefore pension funds could be said to be blood money.
Only way to not make money off anothers suffering if to basically do everything yourself and go on a subsistence living.
Im not trying to justify it, but thats how the world works.
I rather go on subsistence living than be a part of a sick, despicable system. Thank you. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
54713
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:02:00 -
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First of all, oil has very little to do with Syria overall. Its based off unknowns regarding Iran for the most part based on how they might react to a US strike and the threat to tankers in the gulf as Iran has threatened to close the straits of Hormuz multiple times should they be drawn into a conflict in the USA.
It all revolves around fear. The peak oil times of 2007/08 had nothing to do with conflict, it was rampant speculation based on fear. The same way everything works.
And buying oil futures is based on my clients needs. You may as well go and rail at all those involved in the financial sectors who play eve. The world isnt a nice place.
Im not profiteering from Syria. I dont like the death and in a civil war both sides lose. But I still feel its not enough reason for western powers to be involved. According to polls in the states theres only a 9-12% backing for an invasion of Syria. Hardly mass support is it? Id imagine Europe feels the same.
The Saudis and Jordanians have lots of pricey toys, they should try using them for once rather than cheering onward christian soldier like they have been since the first gulf war. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
2470
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:06:00 -
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Graygor wrote:First of all, oil has very little to do with Syria overall. Its based off unknowns regarding Iran for the most part based on how they might react to a US strike and the threat to tankers in the gulf as Iran has threatened to close the straits of Hormuz multiple times should they be drawn into a conflict in the USA.
It all revolves around fear. The peak oil times of 2007/08 had nothing to do with conflict, it was rampant speculation based on fear. The same way everything works.
And buying oil futures is based on my clients needs. You may as well go and rail at all those involved in the financial sectors who play eve. The world isnt a nice place.
Im not profiteering from Syria. I dont like the death and in a civil war both sides lose. But I still feel its not enough reason for western powers to be involved. According to polls in the states theres only a 9-12% backing for an invasion of Syria. Hardly mass support is it? Id imagine Europe feels the same.
The Saudis and Jordanians have lots of pricey toys, they should try using them for once rather than cheering onward christian soldier like they have been since the first gulf war.
My sincerest apologies, Graygor. Your initial comment about investing in oil stock made it sound like you were looking to make money off the war in Syria and it literally made me see red. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
54722
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:10:00 -
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Astenion wrote:Graygor wrote:Like i said i served in an armoured brigade so my knowledge of aerial matters is limited. But from my interaction with IAF officers in the mess was that the US tends to go for the multi-pronged approach with various sources of attack and basically overwhelm the enemy. While Israel which lacks the punch of the USAF goes for under the radar surgical strikes which are fast and as quiet as possible. Vis a vis the Syrian nuclear reactor in 2007 (that publicly even shocked washington in public at least) or ****** in the 80s. Or the recent weapons shipments to Syria.
It wasnt a criticism of the American air force, just an observation from what IAF officers have told me and a few of the serving US crews who came over. They tended to be put through their paces well by the IAF teams who did this sort of things for a living and often finish with a hell of a lot of respect for their Israeli counterparts.
Either way, I'd prefer everyone to stay out of this. God knows what Hezbollah and the IRGC will do in Lebanon and the Persian gulf. And as someone who has a lot of family and friends in Northern Israel id rather not find out. Ah, it's clear now. Your original post made it sound like you were armchair general-ing USAF employment doctrine. Hope I wasn't too harsh.
The former dictator of Iraq is blanked??? Come on!
I figured you were ex USAF whod cache'd out and if memory serves are living in Italy now (if thats right... pretty sure it was you who went on at length about pizza a few months back, forgive me if im wrong). So i figured you were just giving me the benefit of your experience which if you are ex USAF would be greater than mine.
And in regards to armchair generalling, nope, 5 years in the IDF in an arrmoured brigade in the north. 2 active and 3 reserve due to being wounded while on active service. Kind of worried now about call ups. We've been having notices emailed to us every few days to stand by. Keeps you on edge. Mrs has only just left the IDF Medical Corps and got the same notice as me. So our bags are packed along with the Israeli guys in my office. We get the notice we're on the first plane out to a friendly local country and find out way back from there.
I know that in event of the guano hitting the fan that the IAF will be the front edge but the armour will be right behind it if there is a chemical attack on Haifa or TA or Jerusalem.
God knows what will happen then.
I doubt the USA can bribe Bibi to keep quiet like they did in the 90s when the Iraqis were firing scuds en masse to provoke a response. Not with Bennet in the cabinet. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |

Graygor
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:17:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:My sincerest apologies, Graygor. Your initial comment about investing in oil stock made it sound like you were looking to make money off the war in Syria and it literally made me see red.
Believe me, if i ever become like a Wall Street shark ill be blowing my own brains out.
I can understand your disgust with war profiteers. I have the same feeling about the bastards in Israel who are hoarding ABC kits and causing a shortage which is beyond sickening.
I'm actually one of the nice people who plays eve years of being rocketed, bombed and getting sniped at made me a carebear in eve and out. Ive had enough of RL pvp thank you.
Although market pvp in RL and Eve is all fair game. 
Im an analyst by trade. So i have to study this crap. One of the negatives of being an analyst (not a financial one, i study RL events and their impacts) is that if you arent a dyed in the wool realist you just cant hack it.
I may come off as unfeeling but if you cant shield yourself where can you draw the line? You'd just end up crying the whole time. People who pride ignorance of the fact is no excuse, least I can say I know the nature of the beast and accept it.
Thats not leveled at you. Just those who think the world is all fine and dandy when it patently isnt. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
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Astenion
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:25:00 -
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Ha, yes that was me. I love pizza, hehe. I'm a purist.
You and your loved ones stay safe. I hope this whole thing can resolve itself for all parties and further escalation is avoided.
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Graygor
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:34:00 -
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Aye. Im just wondering what the US plans for Syria are calling for.
I hope to gods its just a case of neutralising the chemical stockpiles and launchers and not a Libya where NATO basically handed AQM and the MB the country on a silver platter and fought the war for them.
But then again exit strategies arent exactly the wests or Russias strong point. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:37:00 -
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CNN Headline:
'Syria is not easy to swallow'
Yeah. It'd be like a really large, dusty mint or something  |

Graygor
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:40:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:CNN Headline: 'Syria is not easy to swallow' Yeah. It'd be like a really large, dusty mint or something 
Might need a quite a big glass of water to go along with it for sure.
*cue old man saying "thats nothing, my medicine is the size of Russia!"* "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |

baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:56:00 -
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Right now our armed forces are telling our PM that we do not have the ability to take on assad because his cuts mean we have no carriers, few fighterbombers and the army is critcally undermanned.
Best we can do is to use a trafalga class sub to obliterate a few targets but cause no real damage. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
2006
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:59:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I'm more terrified about what Assad has already done. Which is nothing compared to what will happen if a major world power goes and sticks its oar in. It's a nasty family fight that's been ongoing for about a millennia. Best thing to do is to quarantine the place, take away all their access to new toys, and let them beat each other stupid until they come to their senses. Oh, and provide safe shelter outside the donnybrook for those as are smart enough to not want to play.
Sadly, our pols are doing stupid things. Again. Obama is making stupid comments about red lines he has no intention of enforcing, thus making him (and the US) look both weak and foolish. His various officials are backing his play by talking big about 'all options on the table' whilst knowing that's a transparent lie (no, we're not going to nuke Syria - So it's clear that all options are NOT on the table).
Meanhile, Klowngress Kritters are jumping on the "We must do *something* so that we appear to be doing our jobs" bandwagon, egged on by a bloodthirsty media and even stupider voters...
I'm sadly resigned to a lot (more) needlessly lost lives whilst various people make hay by wrecking the world. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Graygor
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:05:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Right now our armed forces are telling our PM that we do not have the ability to take on assad because his cuts mean we have no carriers, few fighterbombers and the army is critcally undermanned.
Best we can do is to use a trafalga class sub to obliterate a few targets but cause no real damage.
Maybe they'll realise that gutting the armed forces wasnt the brightest of ideas afterall.
Im hoping parliament votes it down.
I remember the no to war in 2003 before Iraq, surprised it isnt the same with Syria. I saw on the BBC that the mood is crap in the UK. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |

Graygor
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:07:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Here be truth and the voice of experience
The opinion from the ME is that Obama and congress have climbed so high into that damned tree that they wont be able to get out.
This could well be a war of "lets have a war as we dont want to lose face."
You know, the Chinese are right. Everything does work in cycles.
Welcome to 1913 everyone. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
2007
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:09:00 -
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Graygor wrote:silens vesica wrote:Here be truth and the voice of experience The opinion from the ME is that Obama and congress have climbed so high into that damned tree that they wont be able to get out. This could well be a war of "lets have a war as we dont want to lose face." You know, the Chinese are right. Everything does work in cycles. Welcome to 1913 everyone. How depressing. You are, of course, resoundingly correct.
 Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Graygor
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:13:00 -
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Unrelated but good to know you're still around Silens, havent seen you on the boards for quite a while.
Heres something hot off the press from Jpost about all this.
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Sources-West-tells-opposition-that-Syria-strike-coming-in-days-324411 "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
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