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 Roark    |
Posted - 2003.08.20 19:26:00 -
[1] Edited by: Roark on 21/08/2003 02:32:01 I am offering 500 million ISK in bounties for James Hawkings. Each time someone brings his cold corpse to my Battleship production house in Korama 3 Moon 10, I will pay 5 million ISK each time, up to 100 corpses. Please include screenshots of the kill. James Hawkings is believed to be particularly easy to kill, because before this incident his net worth was in the 3 million ISK range. For the full story on why I want to create a macabre yet decadent chandelier out of 100 Hawkings corpses for the mess hall on board my Apocalypse, the ôGreenspanö, read below. I have recently moved to Korama and brought a 1 Billion ISK mining contract with me. I always put out buy orders and this occasion was no different. A buy order of 100 million Tritanium @1 ISK each was made. The numbers 1 and 100,000,000 were transposed by mistake. You do not receive that warning you all are familiar with when placing a buy order for higher than average, but it was still clearly a mistake for which I took full responsibility. Upon realizing the mistake I contacted Mr. Hawkings who seemed quite shell-shocked, understandably. I told him about my mistake and offered him three things in return for the money: a) Any battleship built for him at cost (a value of 20-40 mil ISK in savings for him). B) 8 miner IIs (a value of 30-40 mil ISK) and c) a 800 million ISK mining contract for his corporation in Korama. His entire corporation, Vector Heavy Industries, to their credit, ordered and begged Mr. Hawkings to take the deal. He has refused after being given more than 48 hours to think it over. This has caused his corporation great strife as they continue to struggle with a solution to the problem. While their corporation prepares a proposal, I am moving forward with this action. I am more than happy to pay members of his corporation to bring me 100 of his corpses. I have no doubt that VHI will bring a violent storm upon Mr. Hawkings, because of the sticky predicament that they currently face. It pangs me to take this action, but 100 million is not an insignificant amount when it comes to shaving costs for my customers. I sell countless battleships (list belowà never let a good capitalist miss the chance to push his wares) and that 100 million will have to be made up from somewhere. I also have many clients who are upset by what has happened who are also looking forward to collecting as much of the 500 million ISK bounty as they can. I have created an ingame channel called ôRansomö where people can watch the comings and goings of James Hawkings. All Spotters are welcome to join. I am sure that a successful spotting and tracking of him will get you a share of the bounty once he is killed. I reserve the right to rescind payment if it appears the effort to gather corpses is a result of an agreed suicide kill. Screenshots, my network of contacts, and common sense will point the way. And to all my loyal customers, no worries. Prices will stay as low as ever as I continue to fight to get the best people in the best battleships at the best price (I will beat anyone) the galaxy has to offer: Roark's Lil' House o' Battleships! All on market in Korama (Lonetrek region) Scorpions - 69 mil or BYOM + 14mm ISK Ravens - 99mm or BYOM + 26mm ISK Apocalypses - 104mm or BYOM + 26mm ISK Megathrons - 99mm or BYOM + 19mm ISK [OOC] If this is considered griefing, I do not know. I am just the money man. Other people will be doing the killing. If by making this announcements I am indeed a griefer from a GM's perspective, I will gladly remove the advert. Thanks. Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
 Roark Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.08.20 19:26:00 -
[2] Edited by: Roark on 21/08/2003 02:32:01 I am offering 500 million ISK in bounties for James Hawkings. Each time someone brings his cold corpse to my Battleship production house in Korama 3 Moon 10, I will pay 5 million ISK each time, up to 100 corpses. Please include screenshots of the kill. James Hawkings is believed to be particularly easy to kill, because before this incident his net worth was in the 3 million ISK range. For the full story on why I want to create a macabre yet decadent chandelier out of 100 Hawkings corpses for the mess hall on board my Apocalypse, the ôGreenspanö, read below. I have recently moved to Korama and brought a 1 Billion ISK mining contract with me. I always put out buy orders and this occasion was no different. A buy order of 100 million Tritanium @1 ISK each was made. The numbers 1 and 100,000,000 were transposed by mistake. You do not receive that warning you all are familiar with when placing a buy order for higher than average, but it was still clearly a mistake for which I took full responsibility. Upon realizing the mistake I contacted Mr. Hawkings who seemed quite shell-shocked, understandably. I told him about my mistake and offered him three things in return for the money: a) Any battleship built for him at cost (a value of 20-40 mil ISK in savings for him). B) 8 miner IIs (a value of 30-40 mil ISK) and c) a 800 million ISK mining contract for his corporation in Korama. His entire corporation, Vector Heavy Industries, to their credit, ordered and begged Mr. Hawkings to take the deal. He has refused after being given more than 48 hours to think it over. This has caused his corporation great strife as they continue to struggle with a solution to the problem. While their corporation prepares a proposal, I am moving forward with this action. I am more than happy to pay members of his corporation to bring me 100 of his corpses. I have no doubt that VHI will bring a violent storm upon Mr. Hawkings, because of the sticky predicament that they currently face. It pangs me to take this action, but 100 million is not an insignificant amount when it comes to shaving costs for my customers. I sell countless battleships (list belowà never let a good capitalist miss the chance to push his wares) and that 100 million will have to be made up from somewhere. I also have many clients who are upset by what has happened who are also looking forward to collecting as much of the 500 million ISK bounty as they can. I have created an ingame channel called ôRansomö where people can watch the comings and goings of James Hawkings. All Spotters are welcome to join. I am sure that a successful spotting and tracking of him will get you a share of the bounty once he is killed. I reserve the right to rescind payment if it appears the effort to gather corpses is a result of an agreed suicide kill. Screenshots, my network of contacts, and common sense will point the way. And to all my loyal customers, no worries. Prices will stay as low as ever as I continue to fight to get the best people in the best battleships at the best price (I will beat anyone) the galaxy has to offer: Roark's Lil' House o' Battleships! All on market in Korama (Lonetrek region) Scorpions - 69 mil or BYOM + 14mm ISK Ravens - 99mm or BYOM + 26mm ISK Apocalypses - 104mm or BYOM + 26mm ISK Megathrons - 99mm or BYOM + 19mm ISK [OOC] If this is considered griefing, I do not know. I am just the money man. Other people will be doing the killing. If by making this announcements I am indeed a griefer from a GM's perspective, I will gladly remove the advert. Thanks. Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
Stavros |
Posted - 2003.08.20 19:47:00 -
[3] Yet more proof that ccp ruined the game with those miner 2 bps. This is truly a sad day for eve :-( -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
 Stavros Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.08.20 19:47:00 -
[4] Yet more proof that ccp ruined the game with those miner 2 bps. This is truly a sad day for eve :-( -- "DANCE DANCE" |
 Danden |
Posted - 2003.08.20 19:50:00 -
[5] Edited by: Danden on 20/08/2003 19:55:37 and what have this got to do with the miner II bps? And don't go giving me some story about the devs giving tti the miner II bp, because simply you have no proof other then your own words. EDIT: and on topic, I think it's a bit much... would really have had no trouble if he paid for 4 or 5 of his corpses, but 100? That is over the top |
 Discorporation |
Posted - 2003.08.20 19:50:00 -
[6] Never thought I'd see the day that Roark turned into a griefer. Kudos, James Hawkins. I admire your ******* (well not literally..). [Heterocephalus glaber] |
 Discorporation Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.08.20 19:50:00 -
[7] Never thought I'd see the day that Roark turned into a griefer. Kudos, James Hawkins. I admire your ******* (well not literally..). |
 Danden |
Posted - 2003.08.20 19:50:00 -
[8] Edited by: Danden on 20/08/2003 19:55:37 and what have this got to do with the miner II bps? And don't go giving me some story about the devs giving tti the miner II bp, because simply you have no proof other then your own words. EDIT: and on topic, I think it's a bit much... would really have had no trouble if he paid for 4 or 5 of his corpses, but 100? That is over the top |
 Rising Sin |
Posted - 2003.08.20 19:53:00 -
[9] It's easy ISK, stavr0s. Nail a Hawking, win 5mil. I have nothing to complain about. -- "If they're shooting at you, you know you must be doing something right." |
 Rising Sin Sebiestor tribe |
Posted - 2003.08.20 19:53:00 -
[10] It's easy ISK, stavr0s. Nail a Hawking, win 5mil. I have nothing to complain about. -- "If they're shooting at you, you know you must be doing something right." |
 The Editor |
Posted - 2003.08.20 19:57:00 -
[11] We will have no part in such a macabre and illegal act - and we encourage all others to also ignore this shameful example of money madness. To James Hawkings: come speak to us and we will provide you with a better option. (We may well, however, match the bounty, corpse for corpse, with that of Roark, until he removes this travesty of "justice" from the public domain.) Morkt's Defence Weekly ISK Rewards for solid newsleeds - Confidentiality Guarenteed! |
 The Editor Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.08.20 19:57:00 -
[12] We will have no part in such a macabre and illegal act - and we encourage all others to also ignore this shameful example of money madness. To James Hawkings: come speak to us and we will provide you with a better option. (We may well, however, match the bounty, corpse for corpse, with that of Roark, until he removes this travesty of "justice" from the public domain.) Morkt's Defence Weekly ISK Rewards for solid newsleeds - Confidentiality Guarenteed! |
Stavros |
Posted - 2003.08.20 19:58:00 -
[13] you guys are clearly idiots, there is no way to hunt down and kill individuals in eve, how the hell do you m0o survive on a daily basis. yet more proof of just how NUB tti is :-( -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Stavros Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.08.20 19:58:00 -
[14] you guys are clearly idiots, there is no way to hunt down and kill individuals in eve, how the hell do you m0o survive on a daily basis. yet more proof of just how NUB tti is :-( -- "DANCE DANCE" |
 utopiajoe |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:02:00 -
[15] Haha,Roark I applaud you! This is what happens folks, when you mess with someone who has a lot of money. James deserves everything that happens to him, gl buddy, hate to be you. |
 utopiajoe |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:02:00 -
[16] Haha,Roark I applaud you! This is what happens folks, when you mess with someone who has a lot of money. James deserves everything that happens to him, gl buddy, hate to be you. |
 Roark |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:04:00 -
[17] Edited by: Roark on 20/08/2003 20:11:02 Added above. [OOC] If this is considered griefing, I do not know. I am just the money man. Other people will be doing the killing. If by making this announcements I am indeed a griefer from a GM's perspective, I will gladly remove the advert. Thanks. And Stav. I created that "Ransom" channel so it will be easier to track him. Eyes all over the galaxy are going to be looking for him. 500 Mil ISK. Easy money Mr. Sand in your V place. :) Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
Roark Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:04:00 -
[18] Edited by: Roark on 20/08/2003 20:11:02 Added above. [OOC] If this is considered griefing, I do not know. I am just the money man. Other people will be doing the killing. If by making this announcements I am indeed a griefer from a GM's perspective, I will gladly remove the advert. Thanks. And Stav. I created that "Ransom" channel so it will be easier to track him. Eyes all over the galaxy are going to be looking for him. 500 Mil ISK. Easy money Mr. Sand in your V place. :) Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
Stavros |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:05:00 -
[19] Edited by: Stavros on 20/08/2003 20:06:52 james join m0o, ill personally break anyone that comes near u. stupid tti idiot. And its not 500mil is it? Its 5mil? And yes i think it is greifing. -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Stavros Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:05:00 -
[20] Edited by: Stavros on 20/08/2003 20:06:52 james join m0o, ill personally break anyone that comes near u. stupid tti idiot. And its not 500mil is it? Its 5mil? And yes i think it is greifing. -- "DANCE DANCE" |
Discorporation |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:09:00 -
[21] Offering money for someone's podkill is fine. Offering it 100 times for a podkill is just to cause grief.. [Heterocephalus glaber] |
 Drakmarr Banyon |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:09:00 -
[22] Stavros: what is with the name calling? Does your vocabulary only span a few pages in the dictionary? Why is he an "idiot"? If I was in his shoes I would do the same thing. The guy sold him 1 unit of trit for 100 million isk (which was clearly a clerical error. Then when Roark was kind enough to offer him compensation for the clearly noticeable clerical error the guy basically told him to bite it. Doesnt sound like a very nice person to me, I dunno Stavros maybe you are just jealous. Dont be jealous Stav you might grow up to be a big kid Someday. Stop your trolling and flaming! |
 Drakmarr Banyon Caldari Jericho Fraction |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:09:00 -
[23] Stavros: what is with the name calling? Does your vocabulary only span a few pages in the dictionary? Why is he an "idiot"? If I was in his shoes I would do the same thing. The guy sold him 1 unit of trit for 100 million isk (which was clearly a clerical error. Then when Roark was kind enough to offer him compensation for the clearly noticeable clerical error the guy basically told him to bite it. Doesnt sound like a very nice person to me, I dunno Stavros maybe you are just jealous. Dont be jealous Stav you might grow up to be a big kid Someday. Stop your trolling and flaming! |
Discorporation Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:09:00 -
[24] Offering money for someone's podkill is fine. Offering it 100 times for a podkill is just to cause grief.. |
frstkor13 |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:12:00 -
[25] lol @ the worm that is tti. |
 Joshua Calvert |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:12:00 -
[26] 5M isk per corpse upto a total of 100 corpses, Stav. I don't see this as griefing - Hawking has made his bed and now he has to lay in it. If I suddenly had 100M isk in my wallet that shouldn't be there I would hand it back. Even if it was mega-rich TTI. Honesty has no price, man. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
 Stavros |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:12:00 -
[27] Dude i have more money player for player than TTI, its not about cash. I know where the cash came from and I now know that that cash will in effect make some guy unable to play the game. I have put out more buy orders than most and this has never happened to me, and do you know why? Because I check my buy orders after I make them and because I am not an idiot. I dont sell many bships, but I probably sold more cruisers than most corps in game and that was on my own. Offer still stands, I will protect him from tti and any other idiot that comes after him. If he so desires that is. -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
 Joshua Calvert Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:12:00 -
[28] 5M isk per corpse upto a total of 100 corpses, Stav. I don't see this as griefing - Hawking has made his bed and now he has to lay in it. If I suddenly had 100M isk in my wallet that shouldn't be there I would hand it back. Even if it was mega-rich TTI. Honesty has no price, man. |
Stavros Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:12:00 -
[29] Dude i have more money player for player than TTI, its not about cash. I know where the cash came from and I now know that that cash will in effect make some guy unable to play the game. I have put out more buy orders than most and this has never happened to me, and do you know why? Because I check my buy orders after I make them and because I am not an idiot. I dont sell many bships, but I probably sold more cruisers than most corps in game and that was on my own. Offer still stands, I will protect him from tti and any other idiot that comes after him. If he so desires that is. -- "DANCE DANCE" |
 frstkor13 |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:12:00 -
[30] lol @ the worm that is tti. |
agrizla |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:14:00 -
[31] Edited by: agrizla on 20/08/2003 20:15:02 If James has any brains at all he'll make a lot of new friends, get them to pod him, split the money and then be 350 million isk richer instead of just 100 million  |
 agrizla |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:14:00 -
[32] Edited by: agrizla on 20/08/2003 20:15:02 If James has any brains at all he'll make a lot of new friends, get them to pod him, split the money and then be 350 million isk richer instead of just 100 million |
Drakmarr Banyon |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:15:00 -
[33]
By the way Mr "The Editor" what kind of business do you think you run anyways. I remember a long time ago we had a news organization that thought that they could infringe personal feelings in the universe and they were swiftly casted out, you better watch your tongue. No news org does such "Dirty Deeds" I think you are a front. |
Drakmarr Banyon Caldari Jericho Fraction |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:15:00 -
[34]
By the way Mr "The Editor" what kind of business do you think you run anyways. I remember a long time ago we had a news organization that thought that they could infringe personal feelings in the universe and they were swiftly casted out, you better watch your tongue. No news org does such "Dirty Deeds" I think you are a front. |
agrizla |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:22:00 -
[35] Oh and Joshua - if someone screwed up in a trade with me or sent me cash by mistake then I'd give it back (with a few exceptions  ). If someone gets a buy/sell market order wrong then I wouldn't. Roark had plenty of time to review his buy orders and correct any mistakes, but he didn't. "Tough luck - be more careful next time" would be my opinion. |
agrizla |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:22:00 -
[36] Oh and Joshua - if someone screwed up in a trade with me or sent me cash by mistake then I'd give it back (with a few exceptions ). If someone gets a buy/sell market order wrong then I wouldn't. Roark had plenty of time to review his buy orders and correct any mistakes, but he didn't. "Tough luck - be more careful next time" would be my opinion. |
Josephine |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:23:00 -
[37] I don't see where this differs from any other bounty. That the crime wasn't a pure shooting or podding and didn't leave Roark the option to put an ingame bounty is a shame, but posting a bounty in the forums instead is still well within the idea of a crime and punishment forum. Also the amount of 5 million per body isn't that large, the 500 million together for 100 frozen corpses is a larger amount, but again you could do the same effect on any person with an ingame bounty by just putting up a new one whenever that person is podded, whether it is 10 or 100 or 10000 corpses in the end doesn't matter, the statement is pretty clear "Until further notice there is a 5 million ISK per corpse of one James Hawkings" James in not paying back the money from the obvious error which he abused chose to play the game in the big league where TTI and people with real money are, and now he can face the consequences of it. If he's lucky his 100million that he got from Roark might even almost cover all the clones that he should be needing... |
 Josephine Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:23:00 -
[38] I don't see where this differs from any other bounty. That the crime wasn't a pure shooting or podding and didn't leave Roark the option to put an ingame bounty is a shame, but posting a bounty in the forums instead is still well within the idea of a crime and punishment forum. Also the amount of 5 million per body isn't that large, the 500 million together for 100 frozen corpses is a larger amount, but again you could do the same effect on any person with an ingame bounty by just putting up a new one whenever that person is podded, whether it is 10 or 100 or 10000 corpses in the end doesn't matter, the statement is pretty clear "Until further notice there is a 5 million ISK per corpse of one James Hawkings" James in not paying back the money from the obvious error which he abused chose to play the game in the big league where TTI and people with real money are, and now he can face the consequences of it. If he's lucky his 100million that he got from Roark might even almost cover all the clones that he should be needing... |
 The Wretch |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:26:00 -
[39] I personally like Roarks approach and hard business dealings. Makes the game have some depth. I think you can do a little better on your bship prices though .The Wretch Cyberdyne Systems CEO |
 The Wretch Cyberdyne Systems |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:26:00 -
[40] I personally like Roarks approach and hard business dealings. Makes the game have some depth. I think you can do a little better on your bship prices though .The Wretch Cyberdyne Systems CEO |
Jael Markinsen |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:56:00 -
[41] Hmm, not sure I could be wrong but I don't think "james hawkins" will be around too much longer. |
 Jael Markinsen Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.08.20 20:56:00 -
[42] Hmm, not sure I could be wrong but I don't think "james hawkins" will be around too much longer. |
MooKids |
Posted - 2003.08.20 21:28:00 -
[43] And what is to prevent James from making an alt, killing himself a bunch of times for the corpses, then having the alt(s) turn them over for even more of your money! -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
 MooKids Caldari Halo Corporation |
Posted - 2003.08.20 21:28:00 -
[44] And what is to prevent James from making an alt, killing himself a bunch of times for the corpses, then having the alt(s) turn them over for even more of your money! -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
Kashej |
Posted - 2003.08.20 21:31:00 -
[45] B) 8 miner IIs (a value of 30-40 mil ISK) Good one, and where are you selling them for so much ? Good Luck O(o_o)O - y kotorogo net dryzei. |
 Kashej Imperial Shipment |
Posted - 2003.08.20 21:31:00 -
[46] B) 8 miner IIs (a value of 30-40 mil ISK) Good one, and where are you selling them for so much ? Good Luck O(o_o)O - y kotorogo net dryzei. |
MooKids |
Posted - 2003.08.20 21:35:00 -
[47] Wait, i just realized something. Instead of losing 50 million by giving James a Scorpion for your 100 million back, you are going to spend 500 million just to teach him a lesson? You have not thought about this carefully. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
MooKids Caldari Halo Corporation |
Posted - 2003.08.20 21:35:00 -
[48] Wait, i just realized something. Instead of losing 50 million by giving James a Scorpion for your 100 million back, you are going to spend 500 million just to teach him a lesson? You have not thought about this carefully. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
Rising Sin |
Posted - 2003.08.20 21:49:00 -
[49] Idiots. Clearly this is a ploy by TTI to get the guy to pony the money up or basically lose his character. As for myself, until he does or TTI cancels, I'll nail a Hawkings for that money. -- "If they're shooting at you, you know you must be doing something right." |
Rising Sin Sebiestor tribe |
Posted - 2003.08.20 21:49:00 -
[50] Idiots. Clearly this is a ploy by TTI to get the guy to pony the money up or basically lose his character. As for myself, until he does or TTI cancels, I'll nail a Hawkings for that money. -- "If they're shooting at you, you know you must be doing something right." |
Jarjar |
Posted - 2003.08.20 22:12:00 -
[51]
I doubt he'll ever get 100 corpses. |
 Jarjar Privateers Privateer Alliance |
Posted - 2003.08.20 22:12:00 -
[52]
I doubt he'll ever get 100 corpses. |
MooKids |
Posted - 2003.08.20 22:29:00 -
[53] Even if it is 10, he would have still lost the 50 million he would have lost had he given him the Scorpion and James would still have the 100 million. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
MooKids Caldari Halo Corporation |
Posted - 2003.08.20 22:29:00 -
[54] Even if it is 10, he would have still lost the 50 million he would have lost had he given him the Scorpion and James would still have the 100 million. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
 Garaleth Zelph |
Posted - 2003.08.20 22:32:00 -
[55]
I must agree there. Even if you never see anything back of those 100 mill, I think it would be a better idea to take it as a lesson (which many ppl who work much with markets might have had to learn) and put the 500 mill you are putting up as an 'total' bounty into production to compensate as fast as possible for the loss. 'Wasting' another 500 mill on the initially lost 100 mill just to get 100 corpses from him (as far as I know they are not stackable, so much fun with hangar management )to feed my hurt ego deems a bit exagerated to me, no matter how much money you have. You could simply have repeated the buy order for 1 Trit at 100 mill 5 times.Just my oppinion on this matter |
 Garaleth Zelph Gallente Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.08.20 22:32:00 -
[56]
I must agree there. Even if you never see anything back of those 100 mill, I think it would be a better idea to take it as a lesson (which many ppl who work much with markets might have had to learn) and put the 500 mill you are putting up as an 'total' bounty into production to compensate as fast as possible for the loss. 'Wasting' another 500 mill on the initially lost 100 mill just to get 100 corpses from him (as far as I know they are not stackable, so much fun with hangar management )to feed my hurt ego deems a bit exagerated to me, no matter how much money you have. You could simply have repeated the buy order for 1 Trit at 100 mill 5 times.Just my oppinion on this matter |
James Hawkings |
Posted - 2003.08.20 22:59:00 -
[57] haha! roark i love you. btw, mOo people, i've always been interested in how you guys operate, i wouldn't mind hanging around a little bit ~Built Hauler Tough~ ~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
 James Hawkings Armoured Assassins |
Posted - 2003.08.20 22:59:00 -
[58] haha! roark i love you. btw, mOo people, i've always been interested in how you guys operate, i wouldn't mind hanging around a little bit ~Built Hauler Tough~ ~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
Digital Sin |
Posted - 2003.08.20 23:12:00 -
[59] *laughs at TTI and hands james a cookie* "To be content,to be comfortable, is to be complacent. No one learns anything from pleasure..pain on the other hand is a most efficient instructor" |
 Digital Sin Caldari Research Associates |
Posted - 2003.08.20 23:12:00 -
[60] *laughs at TTI and hands james a cookie* "To be content,to be comfortable, is to be complacent. No one learns anything from pleasure..pain on the other hand is a most efficient instructor" |
Zenos |
Posted - 2003.08.20 23:55:00 -
[61] Edited by: Zenos on 21/08/2003 00:00:20 I think its in bad sport of Roark to to do this. He made the mistake and has to live with it. Just because the other guy doesn't want to give it back, putting up a bounty to cover your mistake is lame. As they say in engineering," measure twice, cut once." And I also agree, putting up 500mil on top of the 100mil makes no sense. It's obvious you can absorb such a mistake. |
 Zenos |
Posted - 2003.08.20 23:55:00 -
[62] Edited by: Zenos on 21/08/2003 00:00:20 I think its in bad sport of Roark to to do this. He made the mistake and has to live with it. Just because the other guy doesn't want to give it back, putting up a bounty to cover your mistake is lame. As they say in engineering," measure twice, cut once." And I also agree, putting up 500mil on top of the 100mil makes no sense. It's obvious you can absorb such a mistake. |
Rachel Boye |
Posted - 2003.08.21 00:04:00 -
[63] Hawkings contact me, you and I will make a deal that will give us 250 mil each /RB |
 Rachel Boye Gallente |
Posted - 2003.08.21 00:04:00 -
[64] Hawkings contact me, you and I will make a deal that will give us 250 mil each /RB |
 Stavros |
Posted - 2003.08.21 00:10:00 -
[65] james drop me an eve-mail in game, i think we might have a position open for you. Its called: OMG OMG OMG OMG I PWNZED TTI HAHAHA OMG Its a full time position, very little responsibilities, pretty good benefits and lots of health insurance (about 20 guys in bships and some mad russians ;-P ) -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Stavros Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.08.21 00:10:00 -
[66] james drop me an eve-mail in game, i think we might have a position open for you. Its called: OMG OMG OMG OMG I PWNZED TTI HAHAHA OMG Its a full time position, very little responsibilities, pretty good benefits and lots of health insurance (about 20 guys in bships and some mad russians ;-P ) -- "DANCE DANCE" |
James Hawkings |
Posted - 2003.08.21 00:38:00 -
[67] well i sent you a message stavros :) ~Built Hauler Tough~ ~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
James Hawkings Armoured Assassins |
Posted - 2003.08.21 00:38:00 -
[68] well i sent you a message stavros :) ~Built Hauler Tough~ ~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
nails |
Posted - 2003.08.21 00:47:00 -
[69] Go get em James! ------------------ http://ota-corps.otaku.jp -- Anime l33t level |
 nails Caldari Disciples of the Origin |
Posted - 2003.08.21 00:47:00 -
[70] Go get em James! -------------- http://nails.otaku.jp/ota-corps/--Adv Anime Rank |
MooKids |
Posted - 2003.08.21 00:49:00 -
[71]
Good going Roark, not only did you lose 100 million, but your attitude about it made m0o's membership swell. Congrats James, I think.... -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
MooKids Caldari Halo Corporation |
Posted - 2003.08.21 00:49:00 -
[72]
Good going Roark, not only did you lose 100 million, but your attitude about it made m0o's membership swell. Congrats James, I think.... -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
Hanns |
Posted - 2003.08.21 01:28:00 -
[73] lol roak, you are such a pleb, but ill be on the lookout for mr Hawkings!  |
 Hanns Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.08.21 01:28:00 -
[74] lol roak, you are such a pleb, but ill be on the lookout for mr Hawkings!
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marius calgar |
Posted - 2003.08.21 01:45:00 -
[75] Edited by: marius calgar on 21/08/2003 01:45:33 I was going to say something stupid or annoying about TTI but I am lost for words on this one! talk about making someone want to close his account. Grow up please and remember Roark "please count your change as mistakes can not be rectified after you leave the store" leave the guy alone all you have done at this point is either made a new member for M0o or made this guy walk into a Trap. Second option is most likly knowing M0o. |
SirMolle |
Posted - 2003.08.21 01:45:00 -
[76] Ill counter Roark's offer. Anyone who brings me Roarks biomass gets 5 mill. http://team-freelance.com/users/frst/ttidedapoc.jpg |
 marius calgar |
Posted - 2003.08.21 01:45:00 -
[77] Edited by: marius calgar on 21/08/2003 01:45:33 I was going to say something stupid or annoying about TTI but I am lost for words on this one! talk about making someone want to close his account. Grow up please and remember Roark "please count your change as mistakes can not be rectified after you leave the store" leave the guy alone all you have done at this point is either made a new member for M0o or made this guy walk into a Trap. Second option is most likly knowing M0o. |
 SirMolle Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.08.21 01:45:00 -
[78] Ill counter Roark's offer. Anyone who brings me Roarks biomass gets 5 mill. http://team-freelance.com/users/frst/ttidedapoc.jpg |
agrizla |
Posted - 2003.08.21 02:09:00 -
[79]
Nope I don't think so. I'd trust stavros. ywev or rev - ummm |
agrizla |
Posted - 2003.08.21 02:09:00 -
[80]
Nope I don't think so. I'd trust stavros. ywev or rev - ummm |
 Roark |
Posted - 2003.08.21 02:12:00 -
[81] Clearly, if Hawkings goes into cahoots and kills himself 100 times to embezzle the money, the deal will be rescinded. I expect to see a variety of people bring me his corpses, and it will be painfully obvious if he makes a secret deal with someone. Such a simplistic plan of clandestine embezzlement is very easily trumped by the guy handing out the dough. Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
Roark Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.08.21 02:12:00 -
[82] Clearly, if Hawkings goes into cahoots and kills himself 100 times to embezzle the money, the deal will be rescinded. I expect to see a variety of people bring me his corpses, and it will be painfully obvious if he makes a secret deal with someone. Such a simplistic plan of clandestine embezzlement is very easily trumped by the guy handing out the dough. Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
Digital Sin |
Posted - 2003.08.21 02:30:00 -
[83] so let me get this straight: you haggled with james and could have EASILY just offered him a battleship for the money and lost 50%.... instead, you now choose to lose all that isk, and five times the amount just because he refuses to pay? "To be content,to be comfortable, is to be complacent. No one learns anything from pleasure..pain on the other hand is a most efficient instructor" |
Digital Sin Caldari Research Associates |
Posted - 2003.08.21 02:30:00 -
[84] so let me get this straight: you haggled with james and could have EASILY just offered him a battleship for the money and lost 50%.... instead, you now choose to lose all that isk, and five times the amount just because he refuses to pay? "To be content,to be comfortable, is to be complacent. No one learns anything from pleasure..pain on the other hand is a most efficient instructor" |
 nails |
Posted - 2003.08.21 02:38:00 -
[85] shhh sin, TTi might declair war on you.  ------------------ http://ota-corps.otaku.jp -- Anime l33t level |
nails Caldari Disciples of the Origin |
Posted - 2003.08.21 02:38:00 -
[86] shhh sin, TTi might declair war on you. -------------- http://nails.otaku.jp/ota-corps/--Adv Anime Rank |
 Marie Eve |
Posted - 2003.08.21 02:46:00 -
[87] they couldnt even if they wish, they already have all they war slots filled |
 Marie Eve Gallente |
Posted - 2003.08.21 02:46:00 -
[88] they couldnt even if they wish, they already have all they war slots filled |
Shock |
Posted - 2003.08.21 03:03:00 -
[89] Edited by: Shock on 21/08/2003 03:35:12 Edited by: Shock on 21/08/2003 03:23:12
BREADCRUMBS!!! An acceptable findersfee would be 10% and free service or something. You are just Scrooge II. That offer of a BYOM bs is just a joke: your only costs are the factory time. So it's practically free for you. I bet there are tons of corps that would offer him the same simply because he pulled a 100M prank on TTi. The miners are nice but hardly cutting it. You say they are worth 4M a piece (which is still one of the highest prices on the market), while everybody knows they are like 50k to produce. So only if he sells them he actually makes any money here. And that mining deal...very very shrewd...even more shrewd then it's greedy. With that 800M mining deal you try to tie his corp into delivering minerals excusively to your own. While everybody seems to forget that: a: battleship production is so mineralconsuming you need practically every mineral offered, especially since you already have problem with this because: b: your prices stink. You buy your minerals below NPC or just barely above it. I wonder if you calculated that 800M with your own prices.
LMAO LMAO LMAO If someone: - Is dimwitted enough to not doublecheck his buyingorder. Especially when it concerns ISK amounts THAT big (If you didn't run the order yourself you should try to get your money back on that employee instead and fire the personnel manager) - Is trying to get 100M back by offering some breadcrumbs. What makes you think Hawkings doesn't know the real value of your offer? - Is going to pay 500M to get 100M back. Or persuade future lucky bastards to DO give it back (which they likely won't ofcourse) So very likely: - Is never going to see through some smart people coming with Hawking's corpsicles. Roark: Being carefull is very important if you aren't smart. Hawkings: If you play this smart you can get a additional 500M topping on your 100M free snowcone! Other then that...these things are truly the coolest things EVE is about: player created content! And Roark once again has made it even more clear what kind of corp TTi truly is when you scratch the 100M surface. When I reread the honorable mister Roarke's post I remembered that I had the duty as a capitalist to push our wares, so: To everybody reading this bs-pricelist (battleship/bulls**t; pick one): Techell is cheaper and pays bettter prices for minerals as well! --- soonÖ |
 Shock Caldari |
Posted - 2003.08.21 03:03:00 -
[90] Edited by: Shock on 21/08/2003 03:35:12 Edited by: Shock on 21/08/2003 03:23:12
BREADCRUMBS!!! An acceptable findersfee would be 10% and free service or something. You are just Scrooge II. That offer of a BYOM bs is just a joke: your only costs are the factory time. So it's practically free for you. I bet there are tons of corps that would offer him the same simply because he pulled a 100M prank on TTi. The miners are nice but hardly cutting it. You say they are worth 4M a piece (which is still one of the highest prices on the market), while everybody knows they are like 50k to produce. So only if he sells them he actually makes any money here. And that mining deal...very very shrewd...even more shrewd then it's greedy. With that 800M mining deal you try to tie his corp into delivering minerals excusively to your own. While everybody seems to forget that: a: battleship production is so mineralconsuming you need practically every mineral offered, especially since you already have problem with this because: b: your prices stink. You buy your minerals below NPC or just barely above it. I wonder if you calculated that 800M with your own prices.
LMAO LMAO LMAO If someone: - Is dimwitted enough to not doublecheck his buyingorder. Especially when it concerns ISK amounts THAT big (If you didn't run the order yourself you should try to get your money back on that employee instead and fire the personnel manager) - Is trying to get 100M back by offering some breadcrumbs. What makes you think Hawkings doesn't know the real value of your offer? - Is going to pay 500M to get 100M back. Or persuade future lucky bastards to DO give it back (which they likely won't ofcourse) So very likely: - Is never going to see through some smart people coming with Hawking's corpsicles. Roark: Being carefull is very important if you aren't smart. Hawkings: If you play this smart you can get a additional 500M topping on your 100M free snowcone! Other then that...these things are truly the coolest things EVE is about: player created content! And Roark once again has made it even more clear what kind of corp TTi truly is when you scratch the 100M surface. When I reread the honorable mister Roarke's post I remembered that I had the duty as a capitalist to push our wares, so: To everybody reading this bs-pricelist (battleship/bulls**t; pick one): Techell is cheaper and pays bettter prices for minerals as well! --- soonÖ |
Gai Daigoji |
Posted - 2003.08.21 03:07:00 -
[91]
ROLF! Nice one Stavros, you're a good lad  Please note that the views expressed above are those of Gai Daigoji and not necessarily those of the JGR corporation. |
 Gai Daigoji Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.08.21 03:07:00 -
[92]
ROLF! Nice one Stavros, you're a good lad Please note that the views expressed above are those of Gai Daigoji and not necessarily those of the JGR corporation. |
Morphix |
Posted - 2003.08.21 03:17:00 -
[93] OMFG people, think about this, you get 100 million dollars for 1 peice of trit? give it back? screw that! Keep it and run james, you've just won the friggin lottery, and eve is a very big place :) (nice one stav) ================================== Milk, milk, lemonade! Round the corner, chocolate's made! |
 Morphix Minmatar Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated |
Posted - 2003.08.21 03:17:00 -
[94] OMFG people, think about this, you get 100 million dollars for 1 peice of trit? give it back? screw that! Keep it and run james, you've just won the friggin lottery, and eve is a very big place :) (nice one stav) |
Trapline |
Posted - 2003.08.21 03:29:00 -
[95] Edited by: Trapline on 21/08/2003 03:30:00 Anyone seen that episode of the simpsons where they have the gross our contest? The advert is "How low can you go" and there is a piture of a guy pushing an old lady in front of a train? Thats Roark, low. YOU made a mistake, a mistake which you can EASILY afford(you can tell that by the fact you talk about 800mil isk in buy orders you were putting out like its chump change) and then you try this stunt? Each and every week, TTI does something to degrade its image with the community as a whole, this is the latest thing. Il bet its not the last either. |
 Trapline |
Posted - 2003.08.21 03:29:00 -
[96] Edited by: Trapline on 21/08/2003 03:30:00 Anyone seen that episode of the simpsons where they have the gross our contest? The advert is "How low can you go" and there is a piture of a guy pushing an old lady in front of a train? Thats Roark, low. YOU made a mistake, a mistake which you can EASILY afford(you can tell that by the fact you talk about 800mil isk in buy orders you were putting out like its chump change) and then you try this stunt? Each and every week, TTI does something to degrade its image with the community as a whole, this is the latest thing. Il bet its not the last either. |
Digital Sin |
Posted - 2003.08.21 03:39:00 -
[97] TTI is the microsoft of EVE. sure its big, but no one likes it. "To be content,to be comfortable, is to be complacent. No one learns anything from pleasure..pain on the other hand is a most efficient instructor" |
Digital Sin Caldari Research Associates |
Posted - 2003.08.21 03:39:00 -
[98] TTI is the microsoft of EVE. sure its big, but no one likes it. "To be content,to be comfortable, is to be complacent. No one learns anything from pleasure..pain on the other hand is a most efficient instructor" |
Shock |
Posted - 2003.08.21 03:43:00 -
[99] A wolf in sheepsclothes. Especially that 800M mineral deal... --- soonÖ |
Shock Caldari |
Posted - 2003.08.21 03:43:00 -
[100] A wolf in sheepsclothes. Especially that 800M mineral deal... --- soonÖ |
Ana Khouri |
Posted - 2003.08.21 04:07:00 -
[101] Edited by: Ana Khouri on 21/08/2003 04:07:47 *whahaha* I don't really see a problem here. I strongly doubt anyone needs more than a 1 million clone, Hawkings included. If I would be him I would actually SELL myself for mhh.. 2 mils? in the trade channel. "Give me 2 mils & I will tell you where to meet to pod me." Hey, he can actually DOUBLE his 100 million that way free speech not allowed here |
 Ana Khouri Caldari Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.08.21 04:07:00 -
[102] Edited by: Ana Khouri on 21/08/2003 04:07:47 *whahaha* I don't really see a problem here. I strongly doubt anyone needs more than a 1 million clone, Hawkings included. If I would be him I would actually SELL myself for mhh.. 2 mils? in the trade channel. "Give me 2 mils & I will tell you where to meet to pod me." Hey, he can actually DOUBLE his 100 million that way free speech not allowed here |
Beazlebubba |
Posted - 2003.08.21 04:17:00 -
[103] One thing that's painfully obvious is the PR director of TTI should be sooooooooo fired. James is a former corpmate of mine and I can attest that he's cooler than a walrus' butt (perhaps as smelly (kiddin bro)).At first I thaught the stupid tax for Roark is 999,999,999 isk. What? you don't look at the buy order tab? Now, he's going to make it 600 mill isk that he may or may not choose to pay out all of it. Besides that 100 mill will buy James a nifty BS. James, myself, and a whole line of peeps got your back. (assumimg by damn IP stops sucking). I'm usually no more than 6 jumps from where Stavros and his boys play, and will be there in a jiff to cover your back, and you can always hang with me bro. |
 Beazlebubba |
Posted - 2003.08.21 04:17:00 -
[104] One thing that's painfully obvious is the PR director of TTI should be sooooooooo fired. James is a former corpmate of mine and I can attest that he's cooler than a walrus' butt (perhaps as smelly (kiddin bro)).At first I thaught the stupid tax for Roark is 999,999,999 isk. What? you don't look at the buy order tab? Now, he's going to make it 600 mill isk that he may or may not choose to pay out all of it. Besides that 100 mill will buy James a nifty BS. James, myself, and a whole line of peeps got your back. (assumimg by damn IP stops sucking). I'm usually no more than 6 jumps from where Stavros and his boys play, and will be there in a jiff to cover your back, and you can always hang with me bro. |
Fang |
Posted - 2003.08.21 04:31:00 -
[105] TTi offered 100 mil for 1 unit of Trit and James fulfilled that order. A Legal contract completed. Its TTi's mistake. Live & Learn ...then move on. |
 Fang Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion |
Posted - 2003.08.21 04:31:00 -
[106] TTi offered 100 mil for 1 unit of Trit and James fulfilled that order. A Legal contract completed. Its TTi's mistake. Live & Learn ...then move on. |
Roark |
Posted - 2003.08.21 05:27:00 -
[107] I don't build the Miner 2s and neither does Taggart. I can buy for about 3.2 because of a pricing agreement, so 8 would have cost me around 25 mil. I see them going on the market for more than 3.2, thus I estimated a higher price. Also the offer to give a corporation a battleship at cost that does not have a battleship BP is indeed a good deal. They would be hard-pressed to find this deal from anywhere else. This game is one of two kinds of people: a) Honest and hardworking businessmen who can understand an honest mistake and repay the money b) sniveling kids that grab money in any circumstance and run away snickering in the shadows 95% of the people I deal with are in category a. I have no problem putting 500 mil bounties on group b. I suppose every galaxy has the bell curve of ethical behavior. I know where I fall and the vast majority of my excellent and trustworthy business partners. As for my battleship prices, some say they are amazing, some say they suck. To those that say they suck, I say this, find me a better price and I will beat it. It has always been my policy and will continue to be. All attempts to make me out as a lark or a loon or any of that nonsense falls on the deaf ears of the rational businessmen that turn the gears of the galactic economy. If I want to put up 500 mil in bounties because in my judgment there is a real bum out there, I am perfectly within my rights. The entire point of my original proposal was to befriend Mr. Hawkings in the pursuit of long-term mutual economic gain for both he and his corporation. As the last crusader said, he chose....poorly. Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
Roark Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.08.21 05:27:00 -
[108] I don't build the Miner 2s and neither does Taggart. I can buy for about 3.2 because of a pricing agreement, so 8 would have cost me around 25 mil. I see them going on the market for more than 3.2, thus I estimated a higher price. Also the offer to give a corporation a battleship at cost that does not have a battleship BP is indeed a good deal. They would be hard-pressed to find this deal from anywhere else. This game is one of two kinds of people: a) Honest and hardworking businessmen who can understand an honest mistake and repay the money b) sniveling kids that grab money in any circumstance and run away snickering in the shadows 95% of the people I deal with are in category a. I have no problem putting 500 mil bounties on group b. I suppose every galaxy has the bell curve of ethical behavior. I know where I fall and the vast majority of my excellent and trustworthy business partners. As for my battleship prices, some say they are amazing, some say they suck. To those that say they suck, I say this, find me a better price and I will beat it. It has always been my policy and will continue to be. All attempts to make me out as a lark or a loon or any of that nonsense falls on the deaf ears of the rational businessmen that turn the gears of the galactic economy. If I want to put up 500 mil in bounties because in my judgment there is a real bum out there, I am perfectly within my rights. The entire point of my original proposal was to befriend Mr. Hawkings in the pursuit of long-term mutual economic gain for both he and his corporation. As the last crusader said, he chose....poorly. Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
Digital Sin |
Posted - 2003.08.21 05:49:00 -
[109] Edited by: Digital Sin on 21/08/2003 05:50:12 do not forget that this was YOUR fault. he didnt sneak behind TTI's account and put up tritanium for 100,000,000 isk. you did. yes, you. not him, you. as in, not him. you put it up on market, and thats the same as someone putting a cargo can in space. (psst. that means "free game") also, it is the same as the courier mission which VHI's BATTLESHIP BLUEPRINT was lost in. like you said if you want to offer 500m worth of bounties on james go ahead, from the looks of things you will have to fight your way through m0o and half a dozen other renegades to get that piece of biomass. from a corp that breaks its spine patting itself on the back for following ayn rand and capitalism and pure moneymaking, you sure are throwing it all down the ****ter by holding half a billion isk up for grabs. "To be content,to be comfortable, is to be complacent. No one learns anything from pleasure..pain on the other hand is a most efficient instructor" |
Digital Sin Caldari Research Associates |
Posted - 2003.08.21 05:49:00 -
[110] Edited by: Digital Sin on 21/08/2003 05:50:12 do not forget that this was YOUR fault. he didnt sneak behind TTI's account and put up tritanium for 100,000,000 isk. you did. yes, you. not him, you. as in, not him. you put it up on market, and thats the same as someone putting a cargo can in space. (psst. that means "free game") also, it is the same as the courier mission which VHI's BATTLESHIP BLUEPRINT was lost in. like you said if you want to offer 500m worth of bounties on james go ahead, from the looks of things you will have to fight your way through m0o and half a dozen other renegades to get that piece of biomass. from a corp that breaks its spine patting itself on the back for following ayn rand and capitalism and pure moneymaking, you sure are throwing it all down the ****ter by holding half a billion isk up for grabs. "To be content,to be comfortable, is to be complacent. No one learns anything from pleasure..pain on the other hand is a most efficient instructor" |
edudtset |
Posted - 2003.08.21 07:41:00 -
[111]
rescinding deals seems to be pretty common in tti ================================================ I just find laughable that, despite all the big talk, they end their "careers" in such a way. oO |
 edudtset |
Posted - 2003.08.21 07:41:00 -
[112]
rescinding deals seems to be pretty common in tti ================================================ I just find laughable that, despite all the big talk, they end their "careers" in such a way. oO |
Moah |
Posted - 2003.08.21 08:13:00 -
[113] lol like you more and more james... Fancy. |
 Moah Milites Conducticius |
Posted - 2003.08.21 08:13:00 -
[114] lol like you more and more james... |
Agent Shield |
Posted - 2003.08.21 08:29:00 -
[115] James, you have done nothing wrong. You just have a guy after you because he made a mistake. Instead of taking responsibility for his mistake, he is trying to push it off on you. You made a deal to sell your Trit, the other guy's buy order consumated the deal. If the other guy didn't want to pay 100mil for a piece of trit, he shouldn't have placed the order. Seems pretty simple to me. You saw someone wanting trit, you had some, you were nice enough to sell it to him. Agent Shield |
 Agent Shield Caldari |
Posted - 2003.08.21 08:29:00 -
[116] James, you have done nothing wrong. You just have a guy after you because he made a mistake. Instead of taking responsibility for his mistake, he is trying to push it off on you. You made a deal to sell your Trit, the other guy's buy order consumated the deal. If the other guy didn't want to pay 100mil for a piece of trit, he shouldn't have placed the order. Seems pretty simple to me. You saw someone wanting trit, you had some, you were nice enough to sell it to him. Agent Shield |
Freddy Krueger |
Posted - 2003.08.21 08:40:00 -
[117] What a superb idea to put-up a Galaxy wide mass murder hunt for some one. No matter whether it be justified or not, fantastic. If either myself or corp had such funds as this, believe me, this would be happening on a daily basis, with every one that has ever ****ed me off in this game, being hunted in a similar fashion. Fair play to you sir, may the corpses come rolling in. |
 Freddy Krueger Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.08.21 08:40:00 -
[118] What a superb idea to put-up a Galaxy wide mass murder hunt for some one. No matter whether it be justified or not, fantastic. If either myself or corp had such funds as this, believe me, this would be happening on a daily basis, with every one that has ever ****ed me off in this game, being hunted in a similar fashion. Fair play to you sir, may the corpses come rolling in. |
Serge |
Posted - 2003.08.21 09:11:00 -
[119] Imo its an understandable approach to deal with such honourless creatures like J.H. And its a move of the arrogant super-rich, too. If J.H would have been a clever person he¦d try to make a good deal out of it! Obviously he didnt. But on the other hand, I can imagine J.H. would have given back the money to a "poor" guy and in this case told himself "TTI are that rich, they need to be screwed". But, still its honourless to do so. This is not Robin Hood - like, its simply stupid. Btw - seeing moo massmurderers complaining about this approach is simply ridiculous. And where is tank ceo massmurderer # 123 here? maybe he thinks the same about this causa as stavros? *********************************************** ... "we suddenly have a good 2 dozen Chicken Littles running about proclaiming tha |
 Serge Amarr Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A |
Posted - 2003.08.21 09:11:00 -
[120] Imo its an understandable approach to deal with such honourless creatures like J.H. And its a move of the arrogant super-rich, too. If J.H would have been a clever person he¦d try to make a good deal out of it! Obviously he didnt. But on the other hand, I can imagine J.H. would have given back the money to a "poor" guy and in this case told himself "TTI are that rich, they need to be screwed". But, still its honourless to do so. This is not Robin Hood - like, its simply stupid. Btw - seeing moo massmurderers complaining about this approach is simply ridiculous. And where is tank ceo massmurderer # 123 here? maybe he thinks the same about this causa as stavros? --- Don¦t panic |
Riddari |
Posted - 2003.08.21 09:40:00 -
[121] LOL Roark is a barrel of laughter... no wait.. barrel of spineless worms... no wait.. barrel of overgrown fungused nails from a Fedo Ok enough with the silly talk. Roark you appear to be a boneheaded 17 year old brainwashed capitalist who thinks Ayn Rand really knew her stuff. You also seem unable to offer good or fair deals and your threat of rescinding the bounty if you THINK that there is a a rat involved shows that no one should even take you up on this offer. ¼©¼ a history |
 Riddari Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier |
Posted - 2003.08.21 09:40:00 -
[122] LOL Roark is a barrel of laughter... no wait.. barrel of spineless worms... no wait.. barrel of overgrown fungused nails from a Fedo Ok enough with the silly talk. Roark you appear to be a boneheaded 17 year old brainwashed capitalist who thinks Ayn Rand really knew her stuff. You also seem unable to offer good or fair deals and your threat of rescinding the bounty if you THINK that there is a a rat involved shows that no one should even take you up on this offer. [center] ¼+¼ a history |
Luc Boye |
Posted - 2003.08.21 09:48:00 -
[123] Nice sig Riddari, except it was your right eye -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
 Luc Boye Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.08.21 09:48:00 -
[124] Nice sig Riddari, except it was your right eye --- |
Riddari |
Posted - 2003.08.21 09:53:00 -
[125]
Left! It's me looking in the mirror! This is the 3rd time I've had to answer that ¼©¼ a history |
Riddari Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier |
Posted - 2003.08.21 09:53:00 -
[126]
Left! It's me looking in the mirror! This is the 3rd time I've had to answer that [center] ¼+¼ a history |
Caplata Ogu |
Posted - 2003.08.21 09:57:00 -
[127] Now I know where you live Roark muhahahaha You should have stayed in Venal where you were safe. I think it's time for the revolution... Lets push these insects out of empire space forever muhahahaha Caplata Ogu Disciple of Sevi Lwa |
 Caplata Ogu Minmatar |
Posted - 2003.08.21 09:57:00 -
[128] Now I know where you live Roark muhahahaha You should have stayed in Venal where you were safe. I think it's time for the revolution... Lets push these insects out of empire space forever muhahahaha Caplata Ogu Disciple of Sevi Lwa |
Josephine |
Posted - 2003.08.21 10:37:00 -
[129]
Yes, afterall noone really wants producers and makers and real players in empire space, when we can fill it with guys like you instead. |
Josephine Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.08.21 10:37:00 -
[130]
Yes, afterall noone really wants producers and makers and real players in empire space, when we can fill it with guys like you instead. |
Athule Snanm |
Posted - 2003.08.21 10:39:00 -
[131] Hmmm, my opinion on this is that the bounty is valid. Hawkings had a choice to pocket the 100M from the biggest corp in the game, or do some sort of deal over it. I have to say that the offers from TTi were fairly stingey, but that's beside the point really. One thing that TTi clearly have enough of is cash and asking them not to use it against their enemies is a bit like asking M0o not to use anything bigger than a frigate. A couple more comments - it was mentioned that there's no way to track a player down in the game to kill them. Well, yes there is - grab yourself a few highish level agents and see how long it takes to track someone down who doesn't move around a lot (eg a miner or a NPC hunter). It's actually remarkably easy, you can even find out what station some logged out in if they're not online. All you need then are some high level (read 4) sec-status repair agents and you're all set for assassinating people who live in or near empire space. Someone else mentioned that one podding would be enough - well that would not really equate to causing more pain to Hawkings than he'd gain from the 100M. I would say that 100 poddings is probably excessive and not likely to have the desired result in any case. If it were me I'd put a bounty out on information leading to a podding by myself or someone I'd trust. I would also put a bounty on every single member of the corporation he was in when he committed the 'crime', and also make it known that a bounty would be placed on any corporation that would accept him into their ranks in the future. Judging from his posts this is the thing that bothers Hawkings the most, and so it's the weak spot I would attack. But then, I guess I'm far more ruthless than TTi :-) Ultimately, Hawkings made a valid choice and TTi made a valid decision to attack him using wealth. If people want to accept Hawkings into their ranks to protect him, then that's valid too. _______________________________ Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene! |
 Athule Snanm Amarr Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.08.21 10:39:00 -
[132] Hmmm, my opinion on this is that the bounty is valid. Hawkings had a choice to pocket the 100M from the biggest corp in the game, or do some sort of deal over it. I have to say that the offers from TTi were fairly stingey, but that's beside the point really. One thing that TTi clearly have enough of is cash and asking them not to use it against their enemies is a bit like asking M0o not to use anything bigger than a frigate. A couple more comments - it was mentioned that there's no way to track a player down in the game to kill them. Well, yes there is - grab yourself a few highish level agents and see how long it takes to track someone down who doesn't move around a lot (eg a miner or a NPC hunter). It's actually remarkably easy, you can even find out what station some logged out in if they're not online. All you need then are some high level (read 4) sec-status repair agents and you're all set for assassinating people who live in or near empire space. Someone else mentioned that one podding would be enough - well that would not really equate to causing more pain to Hawkings than he'd gain from the 100M. I would say that 100 poddings is probably excessive and not likely to have the desired result in any case. If it were me I'd put a bounty out on information leading to a podding by myself or someone I'd trust. I would also put a bounty on every single member of the corporation he was in when he committed the 'crime', and also make it known that a bounty would be placed on any corporation that would accept him into their ranks in the future. Judging from his posts this is the thing that bothers Hawkings the most, and so it's the weak spot I would attack. But then, I guess I'm far more ruthless than TTi :-) Ultimately, Hawkings made a valid choice and TTi made a valid decision to attack him using wealth. If people want to accept Hawkings into their ranks to protect him, then that's valid too. _______________________________ Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene! |
Caplata Ogu |
Posted - 2003.08.21 10:49:00 -
[133]
There are plenty of good, honest manufacturers in empire space, most are honourable folk, not like the greedy, capitalist pigs that are once again infecting this space. Next time think before you type, it makes things a lot easier. Caplata Ogu Disciple of Sevi Lwa |
Caplata Ogu Minmatar |
Posted - 2003.08.21 10:49:00 -
[134]
There are plenty of good, honest manufacturers in empire space, most are honourable folk, not like the greedy, capitalist pigs that are once again infecting this space. Next time think before you type, it makes things a lot easier. Caplata Ogu Disciple of Sevi Lwa |
MOOstradamus |
Posted - 2003.08.21 11:10:00 -
[135] Edited by: MOOstradamus on 21/08/2003 11:12:50 I was just wondering if another member of TIT would like to buy a single piece of Tritanium, although I am willing to offer up Pyerite or possibly even Mexallon instead, for 100,000,000 ISK ?? That way they could place a ridiculously high 'grief' bounty on me too when I refuse to give them back their hard earned money !! MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper." |
 MOOstradamus |
Posted - 2003.08.21 11:10:00 -
[136] Edited by: MOOstradamus on 21/08/2003 11:12:50 I was just wondering if another member of TIT would like to buy a single piece of Tritanium, although I am willing to offer up Pyerite or possibly even Mexallon instead, for 100,000,000 ISK ?? That way they could place a ridiculously high 'grief' bounty on me too when I refuse to give them back their hard earned money !! MOOCIFER Emerald/Alpha Oldtimer & Warwick Castle Gamekeeper |
Daan |
Posted - 2003.08.21 11:53:00 -
[137] Edited by: Daan on 21/08/2003 12:06:47 James use jour corpmates to pod you 100x and let alts collect the bounty :P |
 Daan Raven Cartel |
Posted - 2003.08.21 11:53:00 -
[138] Edited by: Daan on 21/08/2003 12:06:47 James use jour corpmates to pod you 100x and let alts collect the bounty :P |
Grisnalg |
Posted - 2003.08.21 13:00:00 -
[139] You da Man James ! |
 Grisnalg Caldari Council of Grey |
Posted - 2003.08.21 13:00:00 -
[140] You da Man James ! |
Boundless |
Posted - 2003.08.21 13:04:00 -
[141] 2 me it sounds like old boy James is the griefer. Taking his ill gotten wealth and running leaves Roark sitting on his thumbs. So Roark did what most of the people in the game wouldn't even think about, He offered Mr Hawkings a reward to do the right thing. When Hawkings made it clear that he wasn't down with the right thing he then had the idea of using the best means at his disposal(isk) to get his idea of retribution. Kudos Roark. One Thing though...while I'm not a big fan of all these big bad pirates with all there clever witticisms that feed on GM's and frigates I do think if you are going to pull 500m out of Hawking's frozen corps by paying pirates and bounty hunters to do the dirty work for you then in a way your a Pimp for the pirates But hey it's his bad and your call gl. |
 Boundless Social Destortion |
Posted - 2003.08.21 13:04:00 -
[142] 2 me it sounds like old boy James is the griefer. Taking his ill gotten wealth and running leaves Roark sitting on his thumbs. So Roark did what most of the people in the game wouldn't even think about, He offered Mr Hawkings a reward to do the right thing. When Hawkings made it clear that he wasn't down with the right thing he then had the idea of using the best means at his disposal(isk) to get his idea of retribution. Kudos Roark. One Thing though...while I'm not a big fan of all these big bad pirates with all there clever witticisms that feed on GM's and frigates I do think if you are going to pull 500m out of Hawking's frozen corps by paying pirates and bounty hunters to do the dirty work for you then in a way your a Pimp for the pirates But hey it's his bad and your call gl. |
Rachel Boye |
Posted - 2003.08.21 13:20:00 -
[143] That's BS, roark put bad buy order. A buy order is a buy order, and James fullfilled it, who is he to question buyers motivs? He has no moral obligation whatsoever to give the money back in Eve, but he could if he wanted accept that bad deal that he got. Roark has likewise full right to set bounty on whomever he wants if he can afford it. James has full right to use that bounty for his personal gain as well. Now you may mix in a lot of abstracts like Pride, Moral, Fair-Play, Stupidity, etc. It's all fair IMHO, James got 100 mil, the bounty is on him, he still have choices. None of this would be an issue if Roark could suck it up. Yes 100 mil is a lot of profit trading ships, but hey, mistakes come with a price. Calling James griefer and whatnot is irrelevant. /RB |
Rachel Boye Gallente |
Posted - 2003.08.21 13:20:00 -
[144] That's BS, roark put bad buy order. A buy order is a buy order, and James fullfilled it, who is he to question buyers motivs? He has no moral obligation whatsoever to give the money back in Eve, but he could if he wanted accept that bad deal that he got. Roark has likewise full right to set bounty on whomever he wants if he can afford it. James has full right to use that bounty for his personal gain as well. Now you may mix in a lot of abstracts like Pride, Moral, Fair-Play, Stupidity, etc. It's all fair IMHO, James got 100 mil, the bounty is on him, he still have choices. None of this would be an issue if Roark could suck it up. Yes 100 mil is a lot of profit trading ships, but hey, mistakes come with a price. Calling James griefer and whatnot is irrelevant. /RB |
SKiNNiEH |
Posted - 2003.08.21 13:57:00 -
[145] - James was in his rights to keep the money - Roark is in his rights to place a gr8 bounty - Everyone is in his right to either protect or kill James. End of story ------- |
 SKiNNiEH |
Posted - 2003.08.21 13:57:00 -
[146] - James was in his rights to keep the money - Roark is in his rights to place a gr8 bounty - Everyone is in his right to either protect or kill James. End of story |
Sabahl |
Posted - 2003.08.21 13:58:00 -
[147]
Um, "honest" businessmen don't take out contracts on people who don't give them what they want.
You forgot one more. c) People who can't cope with the game in all its myriad possibilities, do not take care to sa***uard their assets, their corpmates and themselves and point the finger of blame away from themselves when something goes wrong, instead of looking in the mirror. |
 Sabahl Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra |
Posted - 2003.08.21 13:58:00 -
[148]
Um, "honest" businessmen don't take out contracts on people who don't give them what they want.
You forgot one more. c) People who can't cope with the game in all its myriad possibilities, do not take care to sa***uard their assets, their corpmates and themselves and point the finger of blame away from themselves when something goes wrong, instead of looking in the mirror. MEGALOTTERY Now Open! Win a TITAN BPO!!! Poor bard, I must give you a cookie!- Tirg |
James Hawkings |
Posted - 2003.08.21 15:26:00 -
[149] how am i the griefer? i'm just the lucky bastard who found a 100mil typo and then refused some crappy deals and then got a 500mil total bounty on his head. and i'm the griefer, ha. the only think is i love this, roark has made me very famous in eve ~Built Hauler Tough~ ~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
James Hawkings Armoured Assassins |
Posted - 2003.08.21 15:26:00 -
[150] how am i the griefer? i'm just the lucky bastard who found a 100mil typo and then refused some crappy deals and then got a 500mil total bounty on his head. and i'm the griefer, ha. the only think is i love this, roark has made me very famous in eve ~Built Hauler Tough~ ~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
Ulstan |
Posted - 2003.08.21 15:31:00 -
[151] Goodness. Reading a thread like this makes me despair of the future of Eve with a playerbase like this. Even Stavr0s is acting like a carebear :p c'mon Stavros you are better than that - no need to try to claim what Roark is doing is greifing. It's no more greifing than the pirating mOo or SI does every day. I heartily approve of what Roark is doing - it doesnt' depend on if he is in the right or wrong. He is trying to use in game methods to accomplish something, rather than whining on the boards or petitioning CCP to give him back his money. If you've got a problem with someone, blow them up. If you can't do it, pay other people to blow them up for you. This is how problems should be settled. Roark has every right to put such a huge bounty on James. James had every right to take the money, and has every right now to keep it, and thumb his nose at TTI and tell them to do their worst. Conflicts like that are what makes the game INTERESTING. I can't believe all the poor sports out there who think Roark should take such a huge loss laying down. Goodness. James saw an opportunity, moved in, and took it. Kudos to him for thinking quick and being fast on his feet. Now TTi is applying in game methods to get their money back. Kudos to them for actually seeking revenge in game, and actually DOING something, rather than sitting around whining or petitioning CCP to get it back. All of you who claim what TTi is doing is greifing just sicken me. Could you be any more carebear? Is what James did Greifing? What he did was perfectly acceptable by game mechanics. So is what Roark is doing. You seem to want to be able to steal money from someone and then not have to accept the consequences!! Grow some balls! That would be like me robbing a trader, and then running to the forums and crying when their corp declares war on me, saying how unfair all this 'greifing' that they are doing is. James effectively robbed TTI of 100 million. He did it in a perfectly acceptable way. Heck, it would be perfectly acceptable if he'd blown up Roark's ship and looted 100 mill from his cargo pod. TTI wants revenge. And thus the stage is set for a bit of fun. One of the guys in our alliance robbed a guy of 40 million: He agreed to buy 48 million of megacyte. The trader shows up, and puts in the megacyte to trade window. The buyer put in 4800000 isk. The trader clicked accept. The buyer gleefully informed us he'd just made about 43.2 million :) Now is this any different than what James is doing? Not really. Our guy knew the trader wasn't really wanting to sell all that megacyte for 4.8 million, just as James knew TTi wasn't really wanting to buy one unit of Tritanium for 100 million. But both were able to take advantage of a moment of inattentiveness on the part of the seller and robbed them blind. Good for them. To then claim the seller is 'greifing' when he comes back to reclaim what he lost is extremely childish. Tell 'em to do their worst and live with the consequences. Or cut a deal somehow. I think most of you are letting your envy and hatred of TTI get in the way of a rational view of this matter. It's perfectly fine to hate TTI and to cheer James on for taking themoney. Just at least have the maturity to not try to weep and wail about 'greifing'. Stop asking CCP to hold your hand and protect you from your choices in game. |
 Ulstan Caldari Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2003.08.21 15:31:00 -
[152] Goodness. Reading a thread like this makes me despair of the future of Eve with a playerbase like this. Even Stavr0s is acting like a carebear :p c'mon Stavros you are better than that - no need to try to claim what Roark is doing is greifing. It's no more greifing than the pirating mOo or SI does every day. I heartily approve of what Roark is doing - it doesnt' depend on if he is in the right or wrong. He is trying to use in game methods to accomplish something, rather than whining on the boards or petitioning CCP to give him back his money. If you've got a problem with someone, blow them up. If you can't do it, pay other people to blow them up for you. This is how problems should be settled. Roark has every right to put such a huge bounty on James. James had every right to take the money, and has every right now to keep it, and thumb his nose at TTI and tell them to do their worst. Conflicts like that are what makes the game INTERESTING. I can't believe all the poor sports out there who think Roark should take such a huge loss laying down. Goodness. James saw an opportunity, moved in, and took it. Kudos to him for thinking quick and being fast on his feet. Now TTi is applying in game methods to get their money back. Kudos to them for actually seeking revenge in game, and actually DOING something, rather than sitting around whining or petitioning CCP to get it back. All of you who claim what TTi is doing is greifing just sicken me. Could you be any more carebear? Is what James did Greifing? What he did was perfectly acceptable by game mechanics. So is what Roark is doing. You seem to want to be able to steal money from someone and then not have to accept the consequences!! Grow some balls! That would be like me robbing a trader, and then running to the forums and crying when their corp declares war on me, saying how unfair all this 'greifing' that they are doing is. James effectively robbed TTI of 100 million. He did it in a perfectly acceptable way. Heck, it would be perfectly acceptable if he'd blown up Roark's ship and looted 100 mill from his cargo pod. TTI wants revenge. And thus the stage is set for a bit of fun. One of the guys in our alliance robbed a guy of 40 million: He agreed to buy 48 million of megacyte. The trader shows up, and puts in the megacyte to trade window. The buyer put in 4800000 isk. The trader clicked accept. The buyer gleefully informed us he'd just made about 43.2 million :) Now is this any different than what James is doing? Not really. Our guy knew the trader wasn't really wanting to sell all that megacyte for 4.8 million, just as James knew TTi wasn't really wanting to buy one unit of Tritanium for 100 million. But both were able to take advantage of a moment of inattentiveness on the part of the seller and robbed them blind. Good for them. To then claim the seller is 'greifing' when he comes back to reclaim what he lost is extremely childish. Tell 'em to do their worst and live with the consequences. Or cut a deal somehow. I think most of you are letting your envy and hatred of TTI get in the way of a rational view of this matter. It's perfectly fine to hate TTI and to cheer James on for taking themoney. Just at least have the maturity to not try to weep and wail about 'greifing'. Stop asking CCP to hold your hand and protect you from your choices in game. |
Luc Boye |
Posted - 2003.08.21 15:42:00 -
[153] Yea but... James didnt rob anyone. It was all legit. If you put an ad in the newspaper selling your new Audi for $1 and someone buys it, you can't go after them saying "oh it was typo". You can ask them nicely. -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
Luc Boye Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.08.21 15:42:00 -
[154] Yea but... James didnt rob anyone. It was all legit. If you put an ad in the newspaper selling your new Audi for $1 and someone buys it, you can't go after them saying "oh it was typo". You can ask them nicely. --- |
Josephine |
Posted - 2003.08.21 15:50:00 -
[155]
We're caldari, business is our life, capitalism is our life. That you aparently are against the caldari way of life is midly amusing, perhaps you should first see to it that you aren't a commodity anymore before you start telling me what kind of communist dreamland you would like empire space to be. |
Josephine Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.08.21 15:50:00 -
[156]
We're caldari, business is our life, capitalism is our life. That you aparently are against the caldari way of life is midly amusing, perhaps you should first see to it that you aren't a commodity anymore before you start telling me what kind of communist dreamland you would like empire space to be. |
Ulstan |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:02:00 -
[157] "Yea but... James didnt rob anyone. It was all legit." No, it's still robbery. It's just legimate robbery. Just as in this game we have legitimate piracy and legitimate murdering. ;) Or think of it as scamming as you will. Scams aren't quite robbery, as the person AGREES to give you the money. It's perfectly legit. However, they don't get what they thought they were getting. You take advantage of a mistake on their part. I hope no one is going to be foolish enough to suggest that going after scammers is 'greifing'. |
Ulstan Caldari Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:02:00 -
[158] "Yea but... James didnt rob anyone. It was all legit." No, it's still robbery. It's just legimate robbery. Just as in this game we have legitimate piracy and legitimate murdering. ;) Or think of it as scamming as you will. Scams aren't quite robbery, as the person AGREES to give you the money. It's perfectly legit. However, they don't get what they thought they were getting. You take advantage of a mistake on their part. I hope no one is going to be foolish enough to suggest that going after scammers is 'greifing'. |
Stavros |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:03:00 -
[159] james = hunted therefore: if james in m0o, m0o = more hunted therefore fights that m0o now has > fights m0o used to have therefore: stavr0s boredom level at stupidly boring game <= stavr0s old boredom level I have mathematically proved I am not carebearing, everyone worship me for I am your god. Ta Stav -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Stavros Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:03:00 -
[160] james = hunted therefore: if james in m0o, m0o = more hunted therefore fights that m0o now has > fights m0o used to have therefore: stavr0s boredom level at stupidly boring game <= stavr0s old boredom level I have mathematically proved I am not carebearing, everyone worship me for I am your god. Ta Stav -- "DANCE DANCE" |
Macumba |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:13:00 -
[161] I like the math Stav, but surely you would have a fun time just randomly killing TTI? |
Riddari |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:13:00 -
[162]
He did not scam, he fullfilled a legit buy order? Where is the scam in that? ¼©¼ a history |
Riddari Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:13:00 -
[163]
He did not scam, he fullfilled a legit buy order? Where is the scam in that? [center] ¼+¼ a history |
 Macumba Minmatar Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:13:00 -
[164] I like the math Stav, but surely you would have a fun time just randomly killing TTI? |
MooKids |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:15:00 -
[165]
Scamming would imply that James intentionally decieved Roark into giving him the money. However, it was Roark who made the buy order, forgot to double check it and basically screamed for someone to take the cash. James just filled an order. If he didn't do it, someone else would have. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
MooKids Caldari Halo Corporation |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:15:00 -
[166]
Scamming would imply that James intentionally decieved Roark into giving him the money. However, it was Roark who made the buy order, forgot to double check it and basically screamed for someone to take the cash. James just filled an order. If he didn't do it, someone else would have. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
Dragon Emperor |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:24:00 -
[167] Edited by: Dragon Emperor on 21/08/2003 16:24:17 scam?theft? whatever you tti friends or alts wanna say, in my opinion, those words suit you guys more, much more. |
 Dragon Emperor Amarr Dark Design |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:24:00 -
[168] Edited by: Dragon Emperor on 21/08/2003 16:24:17 scam?theft? whatever you tti friends or alts wanna say, in my opinion, those words suit you guys more, much more. |
Kristopher Michael |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:25:00 -
[169] *The faint sound of static can be heard as you recieve this incoming transmission* I've been monitoring this channel for a while now, and I must say, you are all a bunch of guppies. What happened to the pioneering spirit that formed this universe on this side of the EVE gate? Have you forogotten what our ancestors endured that we may be here? I appaluad Mr. Roark for seeking his own justice, and it'll be profitable to most lone rouges, and other peopel such as myself whom agree with "Civil" society, but choose to exist on the outskirts. I also appluad Mr. Hawkings for trying to get away with it, eihter way, Mr. Hawkings if you get the isk and live, congrats to you. And Mr. Roark, if you do get a hundred corpses, I would love to be invited aboard your ship for dinner, how elegant it would be to dine under such a chandeler. Speaking of business deals, if I can bring you the corpses of Mr. Hawkings, would you consider a percentage off all my purchases from your corporation instead of the isk reward? And to all you morons who think it'd be great to kill Mr. Hawkings as his friend and split the isk reward? I'm sure Roark woud see through it, and if you havn't kept up with technology lately, the more you clone, the more you risk serious ceberal damage, memory loss, and gentetic structure defects. After one-hundred of his clones have been activated, i'm sure he'll loose his complete identity. Kristopher out. OOC: *Sigh* Does ANYONE ELSE KNOW WHAT THE RPG part of MMORPG means?!?! It means role playing game! So on the forms if a thread is started IC (IN character) reply IC! Don't start griefing OOC (out of character) reply to the thread how your character would! =Kristopher Michael= -Merlin Pilot Extrodinaire- "I wish we had a snapshot of Kristopher Michael shooting Shollos in the back of his Scorpion with a merlin, i think he did nearly Six Hundred Damage to him" -Rabid Kristopher Michael Fan- |
 Kristopher Michael Caldari Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:25:00 -
[170] *The faint sound of static can be heard as you recieve this incoming transmission* I've been monitoring this channel for a while now, and I must say, you are all a bunch of guppies. What happened to the pioneering spirit that formed this universe on this side of the EVE gate? Have you forogotten what our ancestors endured that we may be here? I appaluad Mr. Roark for seeking his own justice, and it'll be profitable to most lone rouges, and other peopel such as myself whom agree with "Civil" society, but choose to exist on the outskirts. I also appluad Mr. Hawkings for trying to get away with it, eihter way, Mr. Hawkings if you get the isk and live, congrats to you. And Mr. Roark, if you do get a hundred corpses, I would love to be invited aboard your ship for dinner, how elegant it would be to dine under such a chandeler. Speaking of business deals, if I can bring you the corpses of Mr. Hawkings, would you consider a percentage off all my purchases from your corporation instead of the isk reward? And to all you morons who think it'd be great to kill Mr. Hawkings as his friend and split the isk reward? I'm sure Roark woud see through it, and if you havn't kept up with technology lately, the more you clone, the more you risk serious ceberal damage, memory loss, and gentetic structure defects. After one-hundred of his clones have been activated, i'm sure he'll loose his complete identity. Kristopher out. OOC: *Sigh* Does ANYONE ELSE KNOW WHAT THE RPG part of MMORPG means?!?! It means role playing game! So on the forms if a thread is started IC (IN character) reply IC! Don't start griefing OOC (out of character) reply to the thread how your character would! =Kristopher Michael= -Merlin Pilot Extrodinaire- "I wish we had a snapshot of Kristopher Michael shooting Shollos in the back of his Scorpion with a merlin, i think he did nearly Six Hundred Damage to him" -Rabid Kristopher Michael Fan- |
j0sephine |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:28:00 -
[171] "I like the math Stav, but surely you would have a fun time just randomly killing TTI?" ... I think it's about the extra amusing aspect of having your prey come to you on their own. :s fun + extra fun > fun ... there you go, math fanciers. |
 j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:28:00 -
[172] "I like the math Stav, but surely you would have a fun time just randomly killing TTI?" ... I think it's about the extra amusing aspect of having your prey come to you on their own. :s fun + extra fun > fun ... there you go, math fanciers. |
Stavros |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:32:00 -
[173] kristopher whilst my love for roleplayers is well known and documented, this is not an rp forum so i can post how i like. cheers -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Stavros Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:32:00 -
[174] kristopher whilst my love for roleplayers is well known and documented, this is not an rp forum so i can post how i like. cheers -- "DANCE DANCE" |
Mira Finoso |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:40:00 -
[175] James Hawkings is an innocent man. He should be left alone to live an innocent eve-life. I'm sure most folks understand this... And I gotta say, much props goes out to Stavros for sticking up for him! Well done, m8. |
 Mira Finoso Gallente Horror Business |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:40:00 -
[176] James Hawkings is an innocent man. He should be left alone to live an innocent eve-life. I'm sure most folks understand this... And I gotta say, much props goes out to Stavros for sticking up for him! Well done, m8. |
Dragon Emperor |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:51:00 -
[177] just notice Roark offer 5m per james' corpse, and there's 2 match offer per Roark's corpse, anyone with business sense know what to do |
Dragon Emperor Amarr Dark Design |
Posted - 2003.08.21 16:51:00 -
[178] just notice Roark offer 5m per james' corpse, and there's 2 match offer per Roark's corpse, anyone with business sense know what to do |
Ulstan |
Posted - 2003.08.21 17:03:00 -
[179] Stavros - taking someone in under your wing just to generate more fights is a perfectly acceptable desire :) There's no need to try to dress it up by claiming you are protecting him from greifing :D "He did not scam, he fullfilled a legit buy order? Where is the scam in that?" Where is the scam in how our alliance member tricked the trader into selling 48 mill in megacyte for 4.8 mill? It was a legit trade! The guy *agreed* to it! All scams involve 'legit' transactions. You are merely taking advantage of the mistakes of others (in being too trusting, in being too hasty to double check the trade amount, etc) for your own profit. And yes, James deliberately took the money from TTi - it wasn't some honest mistake where he then gave the money back. He didn't inquire and say "Hey, I see you guys have 100 mill for 1 unit of tritanium. Did you mean to do that?" Nor should he have. :) He should've swooped in and grabbed the money, which he did. However it's naive of him (or anyone else) to assume TTI won't be at least mildly annoyed and come looking for some payback. Whether or not James scammed/stole or not is rather irrelevent however. James is free to keep the money, and TTi is free to go after him for it. James needs to be willing to live with the consequences of his money grab. He seems to be doing a pretty good job of it. I haven't heard him complaining. It's all the other people screaming "OMG GREIFING! TTI! PIRATES! WAAAAH!" that are annoying ;) |
Ulstan Caldari Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2003.08.21 17:03:00 -
[180] Stavros - taking someone in under your wing just to generate more fights is a perfectly acceptable desire :) There's no need to try to dress it up by claiming you are protecting him from greifing :D "He did not scam, he fullfilled a legit buy order? Where is the scam in that?" Where is the scam in how our alliance member tricked the trader into selling 48 mill in megacyte for 4.8 mill? It was a legit trade! The guy *agreed* to it! All scams involve 'legit' transactions. You are merely taking advantage of the mistakes of others (in being too trusting, in being too hasty to double check the trade amount, etc) for your own profit. And yes, James deliberately took the money from TTi - it wasn't some honest mistake where he then gave the money back. He didn't inquire and say "Hey, I see you guys have 100 mill for 1 unit of tritanium. Did you mean to do that?" Nor should he have. :) He should've swooped in and grabbed the money, which he did. However it's naive of him (or anyone else) to assume TTI won't be at least mildly annoyed and come looking for some payback. Whether or not James scammed/stole or not is rather irrelevent however. James is free to keep the money, and TTi is free to go after him for it. James needs to be willing to live with the consequences of his money grab. He seems to be doing a pretty good job of it. I haven't heard him complaining. It's all the other people screaming "OMG GREIFING! TTI! PIRATES! WAAAAH!" that are annoying ;) |
Roark |
Posted - 2003.08.21 17:17:00 -
[181]
That sounds like a good deal Mr. Michael. I also look forward to dining with you when this messy business is dealt with. Thanks again. Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
Roark Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.08.21 17:17:00 -
[182]
That sounds like a good deal Mr. Michael. I also look forward to dining with you when this messy business is dealt with. Thanks again. Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
Digital Sin |
Posted - 2003.08.21 17:40:00 -
[183]i want to see m0o flatten the bounty hunters with their steel toed boots of infinite ass whooping. "To be content,to be comfortable, is to be complacent. No one learns anything from pleasure..pain on the other hand is a most efficient instructor" |
Digital Sin Caldari Research Associates |
Posted - 2003.08.21 17:40:00 -
[184]i want to see m0o flatten the bounty hunters with their steel toed boots of infinite ass whooping. "To be content,to be comfortable, is to be complacent. No one learns anything from pleasure..pain on the other hand is a most efficient instructor" |
John Zeppe |
Posted - 2003.08.21 17:49:00 -
[185] Wow, "James Hawking's corpse" is clearly the new trade commodity! How many would you fit in 6500 cargo, again? |
 John Zeppe Amarr |
Posted - 2003.08.21 17:49:00 -
[186] Wow, "James Hawking's corpse" is clearly the new trade commodity! How many would you fit in 6500 cargo, again? |
terrorfakt |
Posted - 2003.08.21 17:52:00 -
[187] So, what the general attitude here seems to be is that if i go to the local store and buy an item if they accidentally sell me a 1,000 dollar item for say 10 dollars that i should tell them of their error.... that DOES NOT happen in the real world... nor can 99% of you say that you would notify them of their error if it was happening to you get over it... tti screwed up, now they are throwing their money at the problem... which is the real world would be illegal and untolerated... if you dont like their actions organize a boycot, I for one would be glad to help you get it going. Equipoise Inc. - Owning the universe one belt at a time! |
 terrorfakt Caldari Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2003.08.21 17:52:00 -
[188] So, what the general attitude here seems to be is that if i go to the local store and buy an item if they accidentally sell me a 1,000 dollar item for say 10 dollars that i should tell them of their error.... that DOES NOT happen in the real world... nor can 99% of you say that you would notify them of their error if it was happening to you get over it... tti screwed up, now they are throwing their money at the problem... which is the real world would be illegal and untolerated... if you dont like their actions organize a boycot, I for one would be glad to help you get it going. Equipoise Inc. - Owning the universe one belt at a time! |
nails |
Posted - 2003.08.21 17:59:00 -
[189] Edited by: nails on 21/08/2003 18:00:03 What Stavros is doing is beneficial to both m0o and James, since m0o mostly has the problem of people rarely attacking them, with James as bait people will actually come attack m0o more often. I think this is a very smart move, it makes James almost untouchable (as long as he doesn't wonder around by himself) and lets m0o get some good mass kills from all the crazy bounty hunters that want to tap that 500 million isk pot. ------------------ http://ota-corps.otaku.jp -- Anime l33t level |
nails Caldari Disciples of the Origin |
Posted - 2003.08.21 17:59:00 -
[190] Edited by: nails on 21/08/2003 18:00:03 What Stavros is doing is beneficial to both m0o and James, since m0o mostly has the problem of people rarely attacking them, with James as bait people will actually come attack m0o more often. I think this is a very smart move, it makes James almost untouchable (as long as he doesn't wonder around by himself) and lets m0o get some good mass kills from all the crazy bounty hunters that want to tap that 500 million isk pot. -------------- http://nails.otaku.jp/ota-corps/--Adv Anime Rank |
Dragon Emperor |
Posted - 2003.08.21 18:02:00 -
[191] Stavros, will you make some screenshots for those griefer come after james? let the community have some fun about those :) |
Dragon Emperor Amarr Dark Design |
Posted - 2003.08.21 18:02:00 -
[192] Stavros, will you make some screenshots for those griefer come after james? let the community have some fun about those :) |
Ulstan |
Posted - 2003.08.21 18:19:00 -
[193] terrorfakt: comparisons of this game to real life are completly pointless, as being a murderer or a pirate is not an allowable profession in real life, but is supposed to be in EVE. In EVE I can shoot someone and take his stuff. CCP is not going to make me give it back. You think I can do that in real life? |
Ulstan Caldari Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2003.08.21 18:19:00 -
[194] terrorfakt: comparisons of this game to real life are completly pointless, as being a murderer or a pirate is not an allowable profession in real life, but is supposed to be in EVE. In EVE I can shoot someone and take his stuff. CCP is not going to make me give it back. You think I can do that in real life? |
Kristopher Michael |
Posted - 2003.08.21 19:54:00 -
[195] *The speakers *****el with the all to familiar static and loud thumping can be heard* Piece of shi...oh, it's transmitting. Alright Roark, you have yourself a deal. I will find him for you. Next transmission wont be for a while as I imagine he has headed to the outer ring. *The speaker *****les and fades out again* (ooc: fair enough starvos :) i'll just ignore the non roleplaying post then) =Kristopher Michael= -Merlin Pilot Extrodinaire- "I wish we had a snapshot of Kristopher Michael shooting Shollos in the back of his Scorpion with a merlin, i think he did nearly Six Hundred Damage to him" -Rabid Kristopher Michael Fan- |
Kristopher Michael Caldari Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2003.08.21 19:54:00 -
[196] *The speakers *****el with the all to familiar static and loud thumping can be heard* Piece of shi...oh, it's transmitting. Alright Roark, you have yourself a deal. I will find him for you. Next transmission wont be for a while as I imagine he has headed to the outer ring. *The speaker *****les and fades out again* (ooc: fair enough starvos :) i'll just ignore the non roleplaying post then) =Kristopher Michael= -Merlin Pilot Extrodinaire- "I wish we had a snapshot of Kristopher Michael shooting Shollos in the back of his Scorpion with a merlin, i think he did nearly Six Hundred Damage to him" -Rabid Kristopher Michael Fan- |
James Hawkings |
Posted - 2003.08.21 20:36:00 -
[197] yeah, i'd just like to put in a little news on the situation and offer up a little idea too there is nobody in the ransom channel, i should know cause i know idle in both the bounty and ransom channel. the only threats i've gotten are in eve mails from people in SI mostly (gotta love pathetic threats from people who try to scam you first then threat you even though they have no idea where you are). so thats it. i was expecting more, so i have an idea roark, change the bounty, make it 50 bodies at 10mil a pop. i think more people will take up your hunt banner than and make life more interesting for me ~Built Hauler Tough~ ~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
James Hawkings Armoured Assassins |
Posted - 2003.08.21 20:36:00 -
[198] yeah, i'd just like to put in a little news on the situation and offer up a little idea too there is nobody in the ransom channel, i should know cause i know idle in both the bounty and ransom channel. the only threats i've gotten are in eve mails from people in SI mostly (gotta love pathetic threats from people who try to scam you first then threat you even though they have no idea where you are). so thats it. i was expecting more, so i have an idea roark, change the bounty, make it 50 bodies at 10mil a pop. i think more people will take up your hunt banner than and make life more interesting for me ~Built Hauler Tough~ ~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
Koda |
Posted - 2003.08.21 22:02:00 -
[199] I've gotta say, I'm not sure who to root for. I gotta love Jame's spirit. He's become a folk hero for being the little guy sticking it to the Man (very popular in the 'States) which I admire. On the other hand, there is Roark willing to go to any length for satifaction. I'd probably be doing the same thing if I was in his shoes. Then there is Stavros, pitting himself (and maybe all of m0o) against all the bounty hunters, just to spite TTI. This is great. Well played everyone! Possibly the most exciting event we've seen yet in EVE! -------------- Share the love in the SNIGG Forums |
 Koda Sniggerdly |
Posted - 2003.08.21 22:02:00 -
[200] I've gotta say, I'm not sure who to root for. I gotta love Jame's spirit. He's become a folk hero for being the little guy sticking it to the Man (very popular in the 'States) which I admire. On the other hand, there is Roark willing to go to any length for satifaction. I'd probably be doing the same thing if I was in his shoes. Then there is Stavros, pitting himself (and maybe all of m0o) against all the bounty hunters, just to spite TTI. This is great. Well played everyone! Possibly the most exciting event we've seen yet in EVE! -------------- |
Ulstan |
Posted - 2003.08.21 22:39:00 -
[201] Which ones James, Viceroy and Trap? :D They're the ones that like to get into the spirit of being a pirate the most :D "(gotta love pathetic threats from people who try to scam you first then threat you even though they have no idea where you are)." I wouldn't be too sure of that. Our corp has access to agents who can locate people, and we've used them before quite a bit. Lots of people probably have access to these agents. |
Ulstan Caldari Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2003.08.21 22:39:00 -
[202] Which ones James, Viceroy and Trap? :D They're the ones that like to get into the spirit of being a pirate the most :D "(gotta love pathetic threats from people who try to scam you first then threat you even though they have no idea where you are)." I wouldn't be too sure of that. Our corp has access to agents who can locate people, and we've used them before quite a bit. Lots of people probably have access to these agents. |
Joshua Calvert |
Posted - 2003.08.21 22:54:00 -
[203] I'd love to see James Hawking join M0O. Then we'll see if TTI has the balls to fight for their money against a well-established corp. rather than a lucky lone gunman. James Hawking was well within his rights to keep the money just the same as Roark is well within his rights to place a multi-bounty on him. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier |
Posted - 2003.08.21 22:54:00 -
[204] I'd love to see James Hawking join M0O. Then we'll see if TTI has the balls to fight for their money against a well-established corp. rather than a lucky lone gunman. James Hawking was well within his rights to keep the money just the same as Roark is well within his rights to place a multi-bounty on him. |
Dreez |
Posted - 2003.08.21 23:18:00 -
[205] VHI will never turn on its own members. 'Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig ' - Duke Droklar [OC] |
 Dreez Destructive Influence Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.08.21 23:18:00 -
[206] VHI will never turn on its own members. Bob farted, ASCN burped & then there was a nodecrash. |
SKiNNiEH |
Posted - 2003.08.21 23:21:00 -
[207] I somehow figured getting into m0o had some higher standards. Hard to join and when joined, earned on every level the hard way. But no, all it needs/takes is a guy or girl that was somewhere at the right time with one trit in his cargobay. Oh well, i take pleasure in knowing that all the **** i own was earned one way or another. ------- |
SKiNNiEH |
Posted - 2003.08.21 23:21:00 -
[208] I somehow figured getting into m0o had some higher standards. Hard to join and when joined, earned on every level the hard way. But no, all it needs/takes is a guy or girl that was somewhere at the right time with one trit in his cargobay. Oh well, i take pleasure in knowing that all the **** i own was earned one way or another. |
sutty |
Posted - 2003.08.21 23:29:00 -
[209] I noticed over this thread the veanal****s been in tti's anus  |
 sutty Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.08.21 23:29:00 -
[210] I noticed over this thread the veanal****s been in tti's anus |
James Hawkings |
Posted - 2003.08.21 23:38:00 -
[211] it was Trap, he said he'd find me, i have yet to see him or anybody else actually threaten me while in local chat with me ~Built Hauler Tough~ ~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
James Hawkings Armoured Assassins |
Posted - 2003.08.21 23:38:00 -
[212] it was Trap, he said he'd find me, i have yet to see him or anybody else actually threaten me while in local chat with me ~Built Hauler Tough~ ~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
Tehel Necrona |
Posted - 2003.08.22 01:32:00 -
[213]
omgrotflmfaohahakthxbye |
 Tehel Necrona Minmatar Black Omega Security The OSS |
Posted - 2003.08.22 01:32:00 -
[214]
omgrotflmfaohahakthxbye |
James Hawkings |
Posted - 2003.08.22 02:22:00 -
[215] hey Roark, nobody is hunting me, offer up more money for less bodies. or wait till i get myself a low sec rating then put a official bounty on me at least that way people will know theyll get paid for getting me. not a lot of people trust you got cough up 500mil total ~Built Hauler Tough~ ~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
James Hawkings Armoured Assassins |
Posted - 2003.08.22 02:22:00 -
[216] hey Roark, nobody is hunting me, offer up more money for less bodies. or wait till i get myself a low sec rating then put a official bounty on me at least that way people will know theyll get paid for getting me. not a lot of people trust you got cough up 500mil total ~Built Hauler Tough~ ~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
Mustafa Ken'Yova |
Posted - 2003.08.22 07:28:00 -
[217] Edited by: Mustafa Ken'Yova on 22/08/2003 07:29:50 Such anger and immaturity from youth....everyone must be an idiot if they don't think like stavr0s right? "You are a stupid idiot head! A big fat idiot head!" Grow up. Learn some new words. And then look around at what m00 has done over the past months and try to make the argument that you in fact are *not* calling the kettle black. Such irony, its lucious. And Hawking, you won't be acting so*****y once that first person finds you, and then the next, and so on and so forth. ...... |
 Mustafa Ken'Yova Minmatar Reikoku |
Posted - 2003.08.22 07:28:00 -
[218] Edited by: Mustafa Ken'Yova on 22/08/2003 07:29:50 Such anger and immaturity from youth....everyone must be an idiot if they don't think like stavr0s right? "You are a stupid idiot head! A big fat idiot head!" Grow up. Learn some new words. And then look around at what m00 has done over the past months and try to make the argument that you in fact are *not* calling the kettle black. Such irony, its lucious. And Hawking, you won't be acting so*****y once that first person finds you, and then the next, and so on and so forth. ...... |
Digital Sin |
Posted - 2003.08.22 07:33:00 -
[219] actually with most of the player base backing him, i doubt that he will "feel the pain". if anything people would probably pod his attacker out of spite g0 stavr0s 0mg 0mg 0mg !111 "To be content,to be comfortable, is to be complacent. No one learns anything from pleasure..pain on the other hand is a most efficient instructor" |
Digital Sin Caldari Research Associates |
Posted - 2003.08.22 07:33:00 -
[220] actually with most of the player base backing him, i doubt that he will "feel the pain". if anything people would probably pod his attacker out of spite g0 stavr0s 0mg 0mg 0mg !111 "To be content,to be comfortable, is to be complacent. No one learns anything from pleasure..pain on the other hand is a most efficient instructor" |
darth solo |
Posted - 2003.08.22 10:47:00 -
[221] Think we are all escaping the blinding truth here!!!. Is this guy really going to be scared of being killed or being hunted, i think it sounds like fun, and we all know the hardest thing to do in this game is to "find someone" agreed??. Then you have the problem of waiting for them to travel to a low enough security system before you can even touch them:). fire on someone in a 0.5 sys and battleships warp in. I for 1 would probably keep the money, but only because its TTI. The guy will also be kitted out pretty well now after his "lottery win", so he wont be an easy target. 100 corpes is abit stupid dont u think TTI. that would take years, and who will even remember thi safter a few days.  |
 darth solo Insurgency |
Posted - 2003.08.22 10:47:00 -
[222] Think we are all escaping the blinding truth here!!!. Is this guy really going to be scared of being killed or being hunted, i think it sounds like fun, and we all know the hardest thing to do in this game is to "find someone" agreed??. Then you have the problem of waiting for them to travel to a low enough security system before you can even touch them:). fire on someone in a 0.5 sys and battleships warp in. I for 1 would probably keep the money, but only because its TTI. The guy will also be kitted out pretty well now after his "lottery win", so he wont be an easy target. 100 corpes is abit stupid dont u think TTI. that would take years, and who will even remember thi safter a few days. celes apoc kill board |
Ulstan |
Posted - 2003.08.22 11:24:00 -
[223] That's funny Sutty, when I read the thread, all I see are petty TTi haters in James anus! James, on the other hand, seems to be handling the situation fairly well. ;) |
Ulstan Caldari Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2003.08.22 11:24:00 -
[224] That's funny Sutty, when I read the thread, all I see are petty TTi haters in James anus! James, on the other hand, seems to be handling the situation fairly well. ;) |
Thoedore Blooddevil |
Posted - 2003.08.22 11:47:00 -
[225] What a pleasant and intriguing pictures this paints, one might think it was staged, the big corp against the struggling little person who knowingly or not had the deal of the century, highlighting all parties concerned, which will probably be added tp the pages of the EVE history books, in doing so the men and women of MoO also get a mention thus benefitting everyone all round. So in essence everyone will benefit there is no such thing as bad publicity now is there, only warning which should be issued is to Mr J Hawkins, two powerful factions either side, you in the middle, in the future things will be interesting to say the least, especially when undertaking legit transactions, on the other hand you could live by the sword as Stavros does which in this case is double edged, whilst harbouring you and giving proctection and I am no doubt destroying TTI ships when he finds them, will his interest level dwindle in you thus turning the sword towards you and claiming the ransom for himself to further aid his cause? Only time will tell. |
 Thoedore Blooddevil |
Posted - 2003.08.22 11:47:00 -
[226] What a pleasant and intriguing pictures this paints, one might think it was staged, the big corp against the struggling little person who knowingly or not had the deal of the century, highlighting all parties concerned, which will probably be added tp the pages of the EVE history books, in doing so the men and women of MoO also get a mention thus benefitting everyone all round. So in essence everyone will benefit there is no such thing as bad publicity now is there, only warning which should be issued is to Mr J Hawkins, two powerful factions either side, you in the middle, in the future things will be interesting to say the least, especially when undertaking legit transactions, on the other hand you could live by the sword as Stavros does which in this case is double edged, whilst harbouring you and giving proctection and I am no doubt destroying TTI ships when he finds them, will his interest level dwindle in you thus turning the sword towards you and claiming the ransom for himself to further aid his cause? Only time will tell. |
James Hawkings |
Posted - 2003.08.22 14:59:00 -
[227] i really doubt that typo was staged by anyone, and yes, it is the most interesting thing to happen to eve since its release. (i did ask ccp to put something in their news lol) well yeah stavros could probably kill me damn easily, but i dont think he would have much to gain off it. only 5mil for one of my bodies if roark pays up. which is in question. ~Built Hauler Tough~ ~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
James Hawkings Armoured Assassins |
Posted - 2003.08.22 14:59:00 -
[228] i really doubt that typo was staged by anyone, and yes, it is the most interesting thing to happen to eve since its release. (i did ask ccp to put something in their news lol) well yeah stavros could probably kill me damn easily, but i dont think he would have much to gain off it. only 5mil for one of my bodies if roark pays up. which is in question. ~Built Hauler Tough~ ~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
Attica |
Posted - 2003.11.15 02:07:00 -
[229] ******* A...Burn his ass. Thieves deserve no mercy and only extreme predjudice when being dealt with. |
 Attica Maethan Uin Balan |
Posted - 2003.11.15 02:07:00 -
[230] ******* A...Burn his ass. Thieves deserve no mercy and only extreme predjudice when being dealt with. |
Ner'Zuel |
Posted - 2003.11.15 02:21:00 -
[231] why did u do that?? |
 Ner'Zuel Minmatar Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.11.15 02:21:00 -
[232] why did u do that?? |
hellwarrior |
Posted - 2003.11.15 03:44:00 -
[233] Edited by: hellwarrior on 15/11/2003 04:02:08 This is quite a laugh, what is the average price of tri now? I remember it being 316isk to sell in my first two weeks and was like i'm going to get rich. Then i realized no one would pay that! :o How does this differ from a person being attacked and not setup for pvp or w.e., then saying it was a mistake wahh! :[ *EDIT* As for my battleship prices, some say they are amazing, some say they suck. To those that say they suck, I say this, find me a better price and I will beat it. It has always been my policy and will continue to be. */EDIT* Techell beats all those prices by 6m at least :) (raven 99m tti, raven 93m techell (lowest ship price difference)) Also to add props to techell, they got a major gank, and within 2 weeks of the incident underprice the largest corp :O |
 hellwarrior Caldari Finite Horizon |
Posted - 2003.11.15 03:44:00 -
[234] Edited by: hellwarrior on 15/11/2003 04:02:08 This is quite a laugh, what is the average price of tri now? I remember it being 316isk to sell in my first two weeks and was like i'm going to get rich. Then i realized no one would pay that! :o How does this differ from a person being attacked and not setup for pvp or w.e., then saying it was a mistake wahh! :[ *EDIT* As for my battleship prices, some say they are amazing, some say they suck. To those that say they suck, I say this, find me a better price and I will beat it. It has always been my policy and will continue to be. */EDIT* Techell beats all those prices by 6m at least :) (raven 99m tti, raven 93m techell (lowest ship price difference)) Also to add props to techell, they got a major gank, and within 2 weeks of the incident underprice the largest corp :O |
Ana Khouri |
Posted - 2003.11.15 06:37:00 -
[235] Why are people always resurrecting old threads? Oh, and you can get ravens for 90 mil from the open market  free speech not allowed here |
Ana Khouri Caldari Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.11.15 06:37:00 -
[236] Why are people always resurrecting old threads? Oh, and you can get ravens for 90 mil from the open market free speech not allowed here |
 Science'n'Industry |
Posted - 2006.12.21 11:17:00 -
[237] Edited by: Science''n''Industry on 21/12/2006 11:17:27 |
 Nazgu'l Deviance Inc SMASH Alliance |
Posted - 2006.12.21 11:27:00 -
[238] If I were James Hawkings I would ask a friend to pod me 100 times and collect the 500 ISK, then split it in half  Anyway I think its a great way to make money for James of course. I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals. |
 Rooker |
Posted - 2006.12.21 11:40:00 -
[239] OMFG major thread necro! --- Space For Rent |
 Beowulf Scheafer Gallente |
Posted - 2006.12.21 11:43:00 -
[240] dead-post-lurking 4tw ^^ |
 Kehmor Caldari PAK Shroud Of Darkness |
Posted - 2006.12.21 12:10:00 -
[241] I don't understand why this thread was necroed but.. It is quite interesting to see how what was once classed as "griefing" would now just be shrugged at. It seems attitudes have evolved with the game. |
 Redbad Minmatar Gingerbread Reapers Inc. |
Posted - 2006.12.21 12:28:00 -
[242]
I cannot agree more mr. Snanm. We have no intergalactic laws that forbid all of these actions. As no crimes are commited and no legal punishment according to intergalactic laws can be upheld in this matter, this discussion doesn't belong here in the Crime and Punishment office. If there's a question of morals or behaviour in this situation, it better is discussed in the Intergalactic Summit to make a point or propose a common law in there to make future behavioural issues like mentioned punishable. |
 Stakhanov Gallente Newbies On Xstacy |
Posted - 2006.12.21 12:58:00 -
[243] So , the OP bought 1 tritanium for 100 millions like a noob , and placed overkill bounties on whoever had filled his order at that time ? Yet another case of people blaming others for their own stupidity. Funny that pirates are called "griefers" when this person invested his fortune in harassment. |
 NotNowKato Gallente Garoun Investment Bank |
Posted - 2006.12.21 16:22:00 -
[244] 3 Year old post necroing FTW :-) |
Redbad Minmatar Gingerbread Reapers Inc. |
Posted - 2006.12.21 16:29:00 -
[245]
LMAO, thank god someone is more observant than I am! |
 Conuion Meow Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department  |
Posted - 2006.12.21 16:48:00 -
[246] *sigh* Please, oh please, let these threads rest in peace. *clicketeh* |
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