Have noticed with scanning sites now, that if i get a site to 100% then move the probes away to scan another site, i no longer have the "warp to" button on the result. I need to pass a scan over it again, or bookmark it. Before patch the "warp to" button would stay there, even after I pulled probes.

Not sure if this is intended or not.

New music for lowsec but not WH? I don't even bother turning on the sound anymore cause I'm tired of the same 10 seconds of music on an endless loop.

Not a fan of the the new display for ship and character attributes. Forces way too much eye movement back and forth...back and forth...back and forth...back and forth...Allow the option of a collapsed view (like the old way). I can see differences of opinion on this one.

Why was the Badger Mark II renamed to a word that is hard to pronounce? Tayra doesn't even roll off the tongue, change it back please.

I dislike new names for noobs. it shouldnt be changed from energy emissions or transfers....it was ok.

Total mess up of the cost to purchase the Navy mindlinks.


100m isk + 2x t2 mindlinks which are bother over 100m each.


300m and 100k LP, and they are selling for 230m........

Do the math...we are out of pocket by 70m when using 100k lp.



Why would anyone buy these from the navy store.

Re: name changes...

Copied from here.

"Quad LiF Fueled Booster Rockets" are now known as "Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
"LiF Fueled Booster Rockets" are now known as "Experimental 100MN Afterburner I"
"Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters" are now known as "Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I
"Catalyzed Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters" are now known as "Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I"
"Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon Microwarpdrive" are now known as "Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I"
"Monopropellant Hydrazine Boosters" are now known as "Limited 1MN Afterburner I"
"Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters" are now known as "Experimental 1MN Afterburner I"
"Y-S8 Hydrocarbon Afterburners" are now known as "Experimental 10MN Afterburner I"

Can't confuse newbies you know!

dayum, those old names were epic! /cry

I dislike new names for noobs. it shouldnt be changed from energy emissions or transfers....it was ok.

...Renaming Energy > Capacitor is just plain dumb and silly.

...Sad thing is that when you changed skill names, you forgot to change relative hardwire implant names...

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But guys, please save your complaints for REAL issues--you are only reducing influence of your voice with all the fuss you make over such frivolous issues.

This mainly effects noobs training the skills for the first time, and renaming it Capacitor differentiates it from Energy Grid.. It makes sense and is a logical change, like it or not.

But guys, please save your complaints for REAL issues--you are only reducing influence of your voice with all the fuss you make over such frivolous issues. If so many of you complain about every change/improvement to the game, then who is going to listen to you in the event that something REALLY does hurt the game?

If your going to criticize, make it constructive like Bad Messenger:

Not a fan of the the new display for ship and character attributes. Forces way too much eye movement back and forth...back and forth...back and forth...back and forth...Allow the option of a collapsed view (like the old way). I can see differences of opinion on this one.

Ship Balancing

[Sarcasm]Why not rename Mega Pulse Laser and Tachon Laser to "Big Short-Range Laser" and "Big Long-Range Laser"?[/Sarcasm]

[edit]
OK, I have some feedback. Are you guys sure medium railguns are where you want them to be? With faction antimatter and 4 magstabs my Proteus dishes out 800 DPS. For reference, in similar setup my Kronos does 850.

Also I love the UI work. Attributes are much clearer to see now.

Same as he said.. Plus even though I have previously scanned the anomaly to 100%, it appears as a large red unresolved signature or a red circle. Don't really want to scan them twice, having not jumped out of the system.

All we need is for there to be a duplicated icon on the right hand side so you can easily see what's what.

so now there's absolutely no difference between the field and fleet command ships............
armor and siege links seriously nerfed (oh, i'm sorry; "adjusted") with no real purpose. these links affect smaller groups than larger fleets.

changes made by CCP continue their downwards fall.

I cannot fit my armour legion since the patch - not enough powergrid. What have you silently nerfed?

OMFG... They nerfed the Genolution implants. Great, half my goddamn fits are useless and wont work anymore.
A little heads up next time maybe? I read the patch notes like twice, and I didn't see it there few days ago. Ninjaed or I missed it thinking it was about mindlinks?

Genolution CA-2 implant set bonus reduced from 50% to 40%

Genolution CA-2 implant set bonus reduced from 50% to 40%

Not a fan of the the new display for ship and character attributes. Forces way too much eye movement back and forth...back and forth...back and forth...back and forth...Allow the option of a collapsed view (like the old way). I can see differences of opinion on this one.

Just something I noticed while reading this thread, the people who are negative all have very few likes. The positive comments were from people with many likes. Since more likes generally indicates better forum posts ( format, topic words ) then I would take these people's opinions as much more important that he ones without likes (especially the older ones. )

Aside from all that, I like the changes made. Things are clearer, naming conventions are better and my hanger full of haulers has a purpose again!

Naming conventions are very important, everyone complains that it dumbs down the game but for every new trial that now understands what their skills do it makes them stay longer and give us more players. Or is it that the 'l33t' PvPers that bait new players are going to run out of easy targets?

I want more people playing, I want more ships in space and I want to see everyone playing more often.

I cannot fit my armour legion since the patch - not enough powergrid. What have you silently nerfed?

Some Elite Frigates have been removed from Sanctums and replaced by NPC Battlecruisers to increase the isk gain and reduce the time they take to complete for battleships. For real this time.

Not a fan of the the new display for ship and character attributes. Forces way too much eye movement back and forth...back and forth...back and forth...back and forth...Allow the option of a collapsed view (like the old way). I can see differences of opinion on this one.

Stop ridiculous Matar nerfs, damn it http://i.imgur.com/MejTGfL.jpg

This mainly effects noobs training the skills for the first time, and renaming it Capacitor differentiates it from Energy Grid.. It makes sense and is a logical change, like it or not.

But guys, please save your complaints for REAL issues--you are only reducing influence of your voice with all the fuss you make over such frivolous issues. If so many of you complain about every change/improvement to the game, then who is going to listen to you in the event that something REALLY does hurt the game?

I don't like the new layout when you 'show info' on anything. It was easier to read the way it was before PLEASE CHANGE IT BACK.

Why was the Badger Mark II renamed to a word that is hard to pronounce? Tayra doesn't even roll off the tongue, change it back please.

IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT!!!

Have noticed with scanning sites now, that if i get a site to 100% then move the probes away to scan another site, i no longer have the "warp to" button on the result. I need to pass a scan over it again, or bookmark it. Before patch the "warp to" button would stay there, even after I pulled probes.

Not sure if this is intended or not.

EDIT. Right clicking on a 100% scan result only allows the ignore options

STOP making the game easier..every single patch is dumbing this game down.

I'm not too crazy about the mindlink nerf. 37.5% would've been fair.

I cannot fit my armour legion since the patch - not enough powergrid. What have you silently nerfed?

Just something I noticed while reading this thread, the people who are negative all have very few likes. The positive comments were from people with many likes. Since more likes generally indicates better forum posts ( format, topic words ) then I would take these people's opinions as much more important that he ones without likes (especially the older ones. )

[quote=Atreides 47]Aww.... Winmatar not so win anymore? Cry moar. My tear cup runneth over.

Good job, CCP. Now you just need to complete the obliteration of tech 3 OP-ness and removal of silly sov mechanics, and eve will be awesome again.

"Warfare links (other than mining links) can no longer be activated inside a starbase forcefield "

Yeah right, one more disadvantage for solar system defenders.

-1.

so now there's absolutely no difference between the field and fleet command ships............
armor and siege links seriously nerfed (oh, i'm sorry; "adjusted") with no real purpose. these links affect smaller groups than larger fleets.

changes made by CCP continue their downwards fall.

>> EVE Online: Odyssey 1.1 has been successfully deployed on Tranquility on September 3rd, 2013

Yep congratulations on deploying a near 800 meg update to your Server, maybe u would like to bring the update files for the client around to my house so i can play the game i love and support, I am now on my second day of fail fail fail, not everyone on the planet has a fantastic net, some of us have wifi and commmunial wifi at that, that resets to socket on the hr every hr of every day, does the launcher get up of the floor and start from whence it last finished not on your life, it just hangs there motionless and dead as a dead parrot. Is there an alternative such a a direct link to the file perhaps that i could use a download utility that can handle being cut off mid conversation, orry guys but deploying 800 meg in a one go hit is just totally inconsiderate and stupid to say the least, a very very annoyed Aurty, but peace n much love to the beloved many.

Took me 50 secs to download it. Don't blame CCP for your cheapness.

Changing the names of the industrial was a dumb decision.

New roles + new name = less confusion.

Love the skill tree changes, love the skill name changes. Your OCD must be comparable to mine!

And to all of the "EVE is dying" whiners, get over yourselves and adapt or just quit already. Anyone who didn't recognize the mess the skill name and tree had become is like the guy in your office whose filling system is piles of papers mixed with sandwich wrappers.

New roles + new name = less confusion.

Splitting up categories of skills just to split them up is dumb. There is no other name for it.

So math wiz, what's the answer to these equations?

Same modules + new name = ??? (or)

Same skill effect + new name = ???

New roles + new name = less confusion.

The reality of the situation is this, the only thing that didn't change was the appearance and skill reqs. They could have deleted multiple ships and created new ones for the new role, but then everyone would be whining about preferring the Mk. 2 or some such.

Face it if they'd gone the other route we'd have new roles + same name = omgwtf-incarna2style-shootjitamonument-and-emoragequit

There what's nothing wrong with the numbered system (iteron 1, 2...) but now we have have multiple, harder to pronounce names for crappy industrial ships. It was unnecessary.

Try this one: same skill name + new skill effect = ? (Diplomacy)(

You had plenty of time to ***** about this when it was being discussed in Features and Ideas....also when the Dev Blog was posted about these changes. Please provide input during design and development, or just adapt when the changes come and quit bitching.

I don't like.....

Why was the Badger Mark II renamed to a word that is hard to pronounce? Tayra doesn't even roll off the tongue, change it back please.

Now add to that the fact that the roles for these ships changed significantly.

Dude, the ROLES CHANGED. Old line = Industrial (transport anything). New line = specific ships can only carry specific things; go thru each description of each ship to find the one that can carry minerals. Oh, and guess what, you're now a great big read flashing target for gankers.

Old = every ship had to be scanned. New = target this one SPECIFIC type of ship for either pinyata goodies or an empty hull.

You really need to think out your posts before you hit the Submit button.

Okay, what's easier to remember Louis I - Louis XVIII or Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, etc. Name are meaningful, numbers not so much. Now add to that the fact that the roles for these ships changed significantly. It was going to really suck remembering which Iteron did what, and fortunately cooler heads prevailed amongst the devs. I for one am greatful to our CCP overlords.

I guarantee you that Iteron 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 was a lot easier to remember than epithal, kryos, miasmos, nereus and iteron v, for most people.

People won't sit there thinking "now which one is the PI ship, the epithal (iteron 3) or the..." they will simply show info, buy the ship and then forget about it until they need to but a new one.

If you mind works differently, good for you.

ill like to point out that you do not transfer capacitor, a capacitor is a piece of hardware!!! i can demonstrate it to you by using a hand held laser, and a chunk of metal & wires that is a capacitor.

A capacitor stores energy in the form of capacitance... capacitANCE!

Interesting...

Almost EVERY comment I saw on the "Armor Honeycombing" to "Armor Layering" change stated that it was confusing, counter intuitive and should not be changed.

The original skill name was immediately recognized for what it did. They new name implies the OPPOSITE of what it actually does. CCP did not listen. It's actually MORE confusing for new pilots.

I suppose I'm ok with the industrial role changes, what I don't understand is the massive HP reduction to ships that are already, for the most part, a one shot kill. WHY would you reduce the HP in any way on these super weak ships?

It just makes no sense. CCP made weak ships weaker, why?

Their fitting no longer seems to be a joke (at least in the case of the Badger), and you can get combat cruiser tank on it, roughly.

Whoa.

Fitting your industrial ships with things other than cargo extenders. Revolutionary.

Love the skill tree changes, love the skill name changes. Your OCD must be comparable to mine!

And to all of the "EVE is dying" whiners, get over yourselves and adapt or just quit already. Anyone who didn't recognize the mess the skill name and tree had become is like the guy in your office whose filling system is piles of papers mixed with sandwich wrappers.

Agreed, this ain't WOW

Drones radial needs the recall to drone bay on the first level.

Now any time a target I'm shooting at dies, I get the black box notification in the middle of my screen saying "you lost your target lock on [ship type], all modules being used on their vessel were deactivated". I know I lost my lock, I know my modules are being deactivated, I just watched this ship die by my lazors, I dont need a notification in the middle of my screen to tell me. Is there any way to make this disappear or at least not apply to when ships die?

There's a phrase in software development called "feature creep". It's basically the adding new, irrelevent non-sense just to add stuff. The changes to the skill tree are just that: feature creep. Splitting up categories of skills just to split them up is dumb. There is no other name for it.

Just wondering though, why were all four of the special purpose indys distributed amongst just two races (Minmatar & Gallente), with three out of the four concentrated in one race (Gallente)?

they have absolutely no idea how to communicate with anyone

I guarantee you that Iteron 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 was a lot easier to remember than epithal, kryos, miasmos, nereus and iteron v, for most people.

As a noob, I've been thinking: Why would I ever buy anything but the most Iteron-y Iteron (ie. the Mk V)? And, I felt sad that the only one available on my local market for hauling my Planetary Interaction crap around was a puny Iteron Mk III.

But then, I logged in last night and discovered that my puny Iteron Mk III had transformed into the Epithal, a beautiful PI butterfly!

Er, well, it still looks like a dong. But, now it does the thing I was already using it for even better and I have no more sadness for my lack of Mk V space truck peen.

Please tell us what gives you the ability to do that.

A corp mate told me i'm too negative

Common sense.

If you had any common sense you would realise that you have no ability whatsoever to guarantee the working of anyone else's mind, let alone "most people".

So are you saying that random names are easier to remember than sequential numbering or are you just arguing about an irrelevant statement?

Of course I can't guaranteeing it in a "money back if you are unsatisfied" sense but i would put money on what i said being fact. It's down to you to disprove my theory if you think otherwise.

I'm not sure that "irrelevant" is the right word, but my initial reason for posting was to object to your claim that you could "guarantee" how others think, but as you ask I would also dispute your theory about sequential numbering. If it were true it would apply in almost any other scenario, so let's try it:

Instead of Gallente industrials, how about Gallente frigates? Are you seriously claiming that you would find them easier to remember if they were called Atron Mk I, Atron Mk II, Atron Mk III, etc, instead of individual names?

What about RL? If you wanted a new car and went along to your local Ford dealership, you would find it easier to choose between the various models if they were called Galaxy Mk I, Galaxy Mk II, Galaxy Mk III, etc?

Do you have family - aunts, uncles, cousins? If so, no doubt they have unique given names, but you would prefer Cousin 1, Cousin 2, Cousin 3, etc?

I think not.

[Edit] If you look at the original feedback you will see that at first I objected to the idea of new names but I'm happy with the way it was done. Keeping the Iteron Mk V for those who seem to regard it with some sort of strange reverence was a nice touch.

eve online news
Early Downtime! - 10:00 UTC - October 8th, 2013
07.10.2013 11:00
By CCP Falcon

Downtime will begin early on Tuesday, October 8th, 2013 to facilitate the deployment of Uprising 1.5 for DUST 514. Daily downtime will begin one hour early at 10:00 UTC, and will last until 10:30 UTC. As with all deployment downtimes, we reccommend that players set a long skill in training for the duration of the deployment.

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TQ is updated to EVE Online: Odyssey 1.1.9 #tweetfleet and available (DUST 514: Uprising 1.5 is still pending an hour #tweetforce).