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1. I am looking for a 3rd party wholesale GTC seller.

2. I would like to discuss the terms on splitting your profit with me to raffle off some of my in game assets.

3. I will also would like to offer my character to raffle once all my assets are gone. We will follow all CCP rules for transfer once the raffle is over.

4. 1 Black credit for the raffle will be given out for every GTC bought on your site. You can hold the raffle once 1000 GTC have been sold. If players would like to buy a ticket in game it will cost 1 plex and you can have them contract it to you.

5. This practice has been ok'd and does not break the EULA according to CCP.

I am doing this to re-capture some of my money I have spent on EVE over the last 7 years and look for another game to play. This is not a joke and CCP has left me no choice. I suggest that everyone of you look to sell your stuff in this manner before CCP cracks down.

So if you are a third party seller of GTC please send me a eve mail with your percentage offer let the bidding begin.

Yeah one problem with your 'game'. Markee Dragon, to whom you're obviously referring, isn't a wholesale GTC seller. He's a reseller and he buys his GTC's at a wholesale company (not a lot of which exist as far as I know).

But yeah, should be legal. If SOMER can do it so should everyone else. Will be fun seeing CCP's reaction if more of these things start popping up all over the place :D

The other elephant in the room is if CCP has been condoning, or at least looking the other way, this kind of activity for over a year, what other activities that are even more shady have they been ignoring?

Yeah one problem with your 'game'. Markee Dragon, to whom you're obviously referring, isn't a wholesale GTC seller. He's a reseller and he buys his GTC's at a wholesale company (not a lot of which exist as far as I know).

But yeah, should be legal. If SOMER can do it so should everyone else. Will be fun seeing CCP's reaction if more of these things start popping up all over the place :D

The main flaw with your reasoning is that you assume that you know how thoroughly (or not) the site that you are (without mentioning by name) comparing your scheme with has been and are being audited by CCP and you also assume that what has been deemed OK in one specific case under circumstances we are not 100% aware of, will automatically be deemed OK in any other case where the circumstances are somewhat similar at least on the surface.

I'm not saying you're outright wrong, but you are definately not presenting a scenario that is certain to be a 100% match to the (unknown to most) chriteria that said site has met in order to get CCP approval for their methods of financing their website.

The main flaw with your reasoning is that you assume that you know how thoroughly (or not) the site that you are (without mentioning by name) comparing your scheme with has been and are being audited by CCP and you also assume that what has been deemed OK in one specific case under circumstances we are not 100% aware of, will automatically be deemed OK in any other case where the circumstances are somewhat similar at least on the surface.

I'm not saying you're outright wrong, but you are definately not presenting a scenario that is certain to be a 100% match to the (unknown to most) chriteria that said site has met in order to get CCP approval for their methods of financing their website.

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Simpler way biomass - you wont' be missed

When I win him from this lottery, I know what I will be doing to him. Over and over again.

When I win him from this lottery, I know what I will be doing to him. Over and over again.

I am choosing to believe that you mean raffling.

lottery, raffle who cares I am trusted by CCP I could call it this

DNSBlack is thinking about commiting eve suicide. CCP thru there words and actions on this site are cyber bulling me into killing off my character. Please go and by a GTC from the GOON store they have negotiated the best price with me and you will be given a save Black isk credit and entered into the raffle to save my character from Biomass suicide. I want to support the goons cause The Mittani has done such a great job in supporting anti bully programs since his drunken miss step.

Are we having fun yet.

5. This practice has been ok'd and does not break the EULA according to CCP.

I am doing this to re-capture some of my money I have spent on EVE over the last 7 years and look for another game to play. This is not a joke and CCP has left me no choice. I suggest that everyone of you look to sell your stuff in this manner before CCP cracks down.

So if you are a third party seller of GTC please send me a eve mail with your percentage offer let the bidding begin.

B. Selling Items and Objects

You may not transfer, sell or auction, or buy or accept any offer to transfer, sell or auction (or offer to do any of the foregoing), any content appearing within the Game environment, including without limitation characters, character attributes, items, currency, and objects, other than via a permitted Character Transfer as described in section 3 above. You may not encourage or induce any other person to participate in such a prohibited transaction. The buying, selling or auctioning (or any attempt at doing so) of characters, character attributes, items, currency, or objects, whether through online auctions, newsgroups, postings on message boards or any other means is prohibited by the EULA and a violation of CCP's proprietary rights in the Game.

10. You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of items in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.

Really? I would think this would violate Section 6B of the EULA...

...as well as item 10 of the Terms of Service


I think the "any other means" in the EULA covers raffles. The same with "otherwise arrange" in ToS.

I'll be interested to see how this plays out.

Whoa did i miss something here. Does this mean its now possible, in a round-about sort of way, to convert your isk into cash?

Since when did this become possible?

I have no idea who you are... but i like the idea...

that section of the EULA is what is now being called a grey area. Sad this all happening during one of the best player events and just prior to an expansion I was really excited about.

Whoa did i miss something here. Does this mean its now possible, in a round-about sort of way, to convert your isk into cash?

Since when did this become possible?

I'll admit to being ignorant of the other issues in that I don't know the specifics, but I know of them. The only one I am aware of and know the details of is the members of Blink receiving Ishukone Watch Scorpions, so if you wouldn't mind linking me to the other issues at hand for me to look through, that'd be terrific!

5. Trolling is prohibited.

Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.