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Constantinee Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.07.09 03:34:00 - [121] Ok first off if u put wcs's on any ship you should be slapped to hell because you are not a real pvper but u think you are. second i prefer torps over everything so my setup is. 6 seige II 2 med nos II 2x sensor booster II 1 photon II 2x invul II 1x XL Booster II (or better) 2x BCS II 1x Damage ctrl 1x PDU II i use 5 hobgoblin II's and some target painting drones. works well in fleet combat in solo i replace a sensor booster II with a 20 km scram and use some webber drones. I also switch to rage torps in fleet i use jav's. Want a Cheap sig?
Selakia	Posted - 2006.08.07 22:39:00 - [122] I'm pretty new to the game, and I just got my raven. I'm hoping to do some solo and small gang (2-6 member) pvping. I'm still trying to choose between tanking and jamming, but this is what I have come up with so far: 6x Arba Cruise 2x Named Heavy Nos 1x XL SB II 1x Invuln Field II 1x Photon Scatter Field II (EM hardener) 3x Hypnos Multispec ECM 1x PDU II 1x Co-Processor II 3x BCU II With 2x Heavy EW drone, 2x Med EW, 1x Small EW, that gives a total of 8 (2x2+2x1.5+1) plus the 14.4 from the hypnos', giving a grand total of 22.4 multispec jamming strength, giving it the capability of jamming EVERY battleship without ECCM other than the scorp, right? (I'm a little surprised that the raven can do this and still pack lots of firepower with its cruise missiles) Is it any good? How big of a problem will it be that there is no warp scram/disruptor when soloing? Will another BS, for example, just warp out as soon as they see they are jammed? So is it worth trading a hardener for a 20km+ warp disruptor?
Bub Rub	Posted - 2006.08.20 00:38:00 - [123] About jamming: Lets say you have a 3xmutlispec (4 Strength). The opponents ship has 10 strength Gravimetric. The multispecs are not cumulative, they do not mean you have 12 jamming strength. You just have 3 x 4 jamming strength. So you would have 40%chance per multispec to jam.
Hanushi Caldari Advanced Security And Asset Protection	Posted - 2006.08.23 14:55:00 - [124] Here is my PvP setup. Small-medium Gang. Highs 6x"arby" cruise 2x Heavy NOS Meds 1x XL booster t2 2x invuln field t2 1x large extender 1x shield amp 1x sensor booster Lows: 2x type D power core 3x BCU t2 Solo Highs: 6x "arby" siege 2x Heavy NOS med: same, instead of a large extender a warp scrambler. lows: same solo i would have webbing drones. I havent tried these setups yet, but i plan on trying them. Comment please.
BoolCrap	Posted - 2006.08.26 01:29:00 - [125] Anybody bother with a Smartbomb? rather than the Nos.... I read on another thread the ship to cause a Raven most bother 1v1 would be the NOS domi, well from what I've seen of my smart bombs so far they make mince meat of drones. I'll certinly be using one. My set up will be somthing like this, although not put together or tested yet. high, 4 Cruise, 2 Torp, 1 Heavy NOS, 1 Large Smart bomb (i like thermal) med, 100mn AB II, 1 EM hardner II, 1 inv field II, 2 multi ECM if you gang with a tackler, otherwise 1 web 1 scram. lows, 1 BCU II, 4PDU II the idea with this setup is to be versatile, capable of dealing with a variaty of foes. Will be up and running for me in a few days so I'll find out for myself then, but any feedback in the meen time would be appretiated :)
AshFighter Caldari Caldari Deep Space Navy	Posted - 2006.08.29 18:04:00 - [126] Originally by: Cvuos Regarding Nos in PvE, how do they effect rats post-RMR? Will Nos'ing an interceptor dry stop it from MWD/ABing/shooting/scrambling/anything? I'm just about to start doing level 4s with a fresh Raven, how do you rate a 3 mill SP char chances at soloing? I'm thinking I'll be bothering corp mates to help me for quite some time. Lol, im like 800,000 SP and i can handle solo rattin on my raven, in 0.0 i'd recommend 6 siege, 1 large shield booster (II if possible), 1 invuln field, 2 explosive hardners active and 2 active kinetic hardners 2 balistic control, 3 power diagnostic Bounty Hunter
Phi Crysae Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.30 14:16:00 - [127] Originally by: BoolCrap Edited by: BoolCrap on 26/08/2006 01:42:52 Edited by: BoolCrap on 26/08/2006 01:38:02 Edited by: BoolCrap on 26/08/2006 01:35:55 Anybody bother with a Smartbomb? rather than the Nos.... I read on another thread the ship to cause a Raven most bother 1v1 would be the NOS domi, well from what I've seen of my smart bombs so far they make mince meat of drones. I'll certinly be using one. My set up will be somthing like this, although not put together or tested yet. high, 4 Cruise, 2 Torp, 1 Heavy NOS, 1 Large Smart bomb (i like thermal) med, 100mn AB II, XL Shield Booster II, 1 EM hardner II, 1 inv field II, 2 multi ECM if you gang with a tackler, otherwise 1 web 1 scram. lows, 1 BCU II, 4PDU II the idea with this setup is to be versatile, capable of dealing with a variaty of foes. Will be up and running for me in a few days so I'll find out for myself then, but any feedback in the meen time would be appretiated :) Edit: just checked it on quick fit, seems with my skills I need 2 Co-Proc II's in the lows which might suck, i dunno maybe theres a better way to fit this lot. I'll figure somthin; out ;D The problem with using a SB on a raven is that you end up blowing up your own missles with your smart bomb.
madhapee Amarr Damage Unlimited Inc Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.09.21 00:26:00 - [128] Nothing beats 6 arby cruise launchers. They are a lot cheaper now and require a lot less fitting so you can put something nice in the other two high slots. Sometimes I run dual heavy nos or even some guns. but the arby cruises are great, especially with some tech2 damage controls in low.
Winston Umbeke	Posted - 2006.09.27 16:31:00 - [129] I've been playing around with a setup on quickfit for a Close Range Gank/Tank Raven... Cpu is very tight on this and barely fits with good fiting skills: 6x T2 Siege T2 XL SB Copastic Boost Amp 2x Invul II 1x Heavy Electro Chem Cap Boost 20k Scram (lowest CPU Named)... Swap out for a SB II if need be 2x BCS II PDS II CPU II My dilema is whether or not to go for an extra BCS or PDS in the remaining Low Slot Also... Drones... What would people recommend... ATM I'm liking the look of 5x Med ECM drones plus 5x Light T2s for those pesky Inties. Any advice?
DHorner Caldari Scout And Mining inc	Posted - 2006.09.29 21:26:00 - [130] I love the flaming for running WCS. Does it change my setup, he!! no. My 2nd account Raven rarely sees WCS but it does happen. This account is much younger and gets flamed on a regular basis for getting away using WCS's. Does anyone honestly think flaming me makes a difference, lol. I got flamed last night for warping away from a gate camp with 3 BS's and a Command Ship. If I was a real PVP'er I would have stayed and fought, yea right my 6 month old character tanked mission specific is going to stay and take on 3 BS's and a Command Ship. Not everyone is a PVP'er, not everyone has 30mil + skill points, if my two warp stabs are to much for a 4 ship gang then maybe they should revisit their setup.

MaidMarion	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:26:00 - [131] Originally by: DHorner I love the flaming for running WCS. Does it change my setup, he!! no. My 2nd account Raven rarely sees WCS but it does happen. This account is much younger and gets flamed on a regular basis for getting away using WCS's. Does anyone honestly think flaming me makes a difference, lol. I got flamed last night for warping away from a gate camp with 3 BS's and a Command Ship. If I was a real PVP'er I would have stayed and fought, yea right my 6 month old character tanked mission specific is going to stay and take on 3 BS's and a Command Ship. Not everyone is a PVP'er, not everyone has 30mil + skill points, if my two warp stabs are to much for a 4 ship gang then maybe they should revisit their setup. Or invest in an interdictor.
Mjukisdjur	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:36:00 - [132] HI: 6x sige t2 (javlin torps) 1x nos best named 1x meduim smart bomb t2 MED: 1x XL shieeld booster 1x shieeld amp (best named) 1x warp disruptor 2x invurbilety field t2 1x cap booster LOW: 2x bcu t2 3x pdu t2 and you can go whit which drons you wont they are just to pop friggs. this is my 1man pvp (Pairet) just be in range 15-20km lock target warp dissrupt and pop it ;P
Ghargon The Bratwurst Burglars	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:59:00 - [133] Ive got a rther large number of setups that i use for a variety of situations but the most commonly used are as follows: The standard raven: hi:6x cruise missle launcher t2 1xHeavy Nos Mid: 1x XL shield booster t2 1x shield boost amp 2x invulnerability field t2 1x electrochemical cap injector w/ 800's and finally if i don't need to fit a scram i fit a second shield boost amp Low: 3x BCU t2 1x Co-processor t2 1x damage control This works well in pretty much all circumstances and has a good tank vs damage output ratio. Its not good for tackleing and solo work though. The gank raven: There are two variations but both work effectively and the damage output is huge. hi: 6x siege missle launcher t2 2x medium energy neutralizers mid: 4 racial and 2 multispec jammers or a passive tank of 2x invulnerability field and 2x large shield extender with whatever else you want to fit in the last 2 slots. Low: 3x BCU t2 1x damage control and in the last slot i generally fit a backup array but anything is good. This is more oriented towards solo work as you can switch a couple of jammers out for a disruptor and web etc. the idea is simply to keep your opponent jammed and destroy him with your torps. I never think of the future - It comes soon enough
Commander Rice	Posted - 2006.10.09 22:54:00 - [134] Edited by: Commander Rice on 09/10/2006 22:54:24 Highs: x6 Cruise Launcher IIs x2 Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain Mids: x1 XLarge Shield Booster II x2 Ionic Field Accelerator x3 tech II hardners (depending on the situation) Lows x3 Ballistic Control System II x1 Co-Processor II x1 Power Diagnostic System II x5 tech II mid drones DPS: 515 Eats through lvl4s like it's nothing
Gaius Rex Gallente Collateral Holdings	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:31:00 - [135] Originally by: Commander Rice Edited by: Commander Rice on 09/10/2006 22:54:24 Highs: x6 Cruise Launcher IIs x2 Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain Mids: x1 XLarge Shield Booster II x2 Ionic Field Accelerator x3 tech II hardners (depending on the situation) Lows x3 Ballistic Control System II x1 Co-Processor II x1 Power Diagnostic System II x5 tech II mid drones DPS: 515 Eats through lvl4s like it's nothing Nice setup, cannot see the 515 DPS though. My job is to arrange the meeting between you and the Big Fella
Commander Rice	Posted - 2006.10.12 13:28:00 - [136] Originally by: Gaius Rex Nice setup, cannot see the 515 DPS though. Just quoting Quickfit. the only downfall of this setup is that it is stupid tight to set up. I needed a launcher CPU reduction implant and it STILL only have 0.14 CPU left. And that's even with electronics AND weapon upgrades lvl5. Attributes printout: SHIP'S ATTRIBUTES : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powergrid : 12436.0 / 12468.75 MW CPU : 962.09 / 962.5 tf Capacitor (regen) : 5131.875 Energy (676.29sec) Max Cap Regen : 18.59 per sec (approx.) Max Cap Needed : 82.4 per sec Velocity : 138.0 m/sec Signature : 460.0 m Target Range : 86250.0 m Scan Resolution : 102.0 mm ECCM Gravimetric : 22.0 points Shield HP (regen) : 7245.0 (1372.5sec) Max Shield Regen : 13.2 per sec (approx.) Shield EM : 66.73 % Shield Explo : 72.0 % Shield Kinetic : 80.04 % Shield Thermal : 44.0 % Armor HP : 6375.6 Armor EM : 60.0 % Armor Explo : 10.0 % Armor Kinetic : 25.0 % Armor Thermal : 45.0 % Structure HP : 6641.25 Drone Capacity : 75.0 m3 Capacity : 665.0 Warp Max Distance : 422.59 ==> 514.9 DPS <==
Majin82 Caldari g guild	Posted - 2006.10.12 22:46:00 - [137] Raven 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Gist B-Type X-Large Shield Booster Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II 'Pandemonium' I Ballistic Enhancement 'Pandemonium' I Ballistic Enhancement Damage Control II 7607 shield, 14.2/s, E/T/K/Ex=79/82/87/85 5844 armor, E/T/K/Ex=66/53/36/23 5154.1875 cap, +19.21/s, -51.58/s 138.0 m/s This is my latest Raven. I am planing on buying a Navy Issue Raven Soon. ------------------------------------- Proud member of G Guild!
Commander Rice	Posted - 2006.10.15 14:51:00 - [138] why not jsut train up weapon upgrades fo the BCS II? That extra .2% missile damage can make a big differance with 6 Arbies
WNxHollow	Posted - 2006.10.29 11:03:00 - [139] Does anybody have tips for a passive tank raven? Everything I see is generally active... or is passive just not viable?
Shin Jai	Posted - 2006.10.29 11:04:00 - [140] Originally by: WNxHollow Does anybody have tips for a passive tank raven? Everything I see is generally active... or is passive just not viable? At the moment it is not viable, active is far much better. With the upcomming +50% HP Buff, I am not sure if it will work or not.

Rellana	Posted - 2006.11.06 11:19:00 - [141] OK here's my setup for 0.0 ratting against Serpentis Pirates 3x Cruise II 3x siege II 2x e-50 prototype nos Med 1x large shield booster II 1x Heat dissipation Field II 1x Ballistic Disipation Field II 1x Invunerability Field II 2x Ionic Field Accelerator II Low 2x Pandemonium 1 Ballistic enchancement 1x Co-processor II 1x Damage control II 1x PDS II Just a question would I be able to make do with the lv1 version of the hardeners or are the t2 versions needed,as I need to rat to earn more money...
Gyro DuAquin1 Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.06 11:42:00 - [142] oki doki after i got back from the restrooms after reading ur fittings ill post a few ideas First shield booster in pvp is like using a condom with a whole in it. U have on but it wont save u anyway. Even with an amplifier and hardeners, if u get shoten by more then 3 ships ur **** dead. OFC ppl got saved by those but thats more like the other where not enough or had shield boosters on there ravens too. So dont use shield boosters Second CMS and Torps have the same max speed, which means the time the missle needs is the same just the target has to be a different one. If u have cms take cruisers and hacs if u have torps take bs or mwding cruisers. As we are talking about missles, dont use kinetic torps, the ravens has no bonus towards that, so i suggest em and explo or just em. Ive seen ppl using kinetic ones, but mostly every ship has 35% resitance. EM most of the bs have 0, and explo with a fleetfitting ppl have 10% which means more damage. For CMs i suggest em only, against hacs its like a good choice, ofc attacking a vaga with em is wrong ;) Fitting should be like cm or torps launchers II if u use t2 cms u have pleanty of space for nos or remote rep 2 sbs, and 4 med slots of ew u like 3 bcu 1600er plate and damge control max ur damage output in fleetcombat is the way to go :)
Majin82 Caldari g guild	Posted - 2006.11.07 22:52:00 - [143] With the new Nerf to Jav torps, what is gonna be the new Kali set up? ------------------------------------- Proud member of G Guild!
Bizzare Babe	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:11:00 - [144] I'm looking at setting up a raven in the next few days for 0.0 ratting. I'm likely to go something like 6 'Arby' Seige Launchers 1 Tractor Smartbomb 2 Rat Specific Hardeners 2 Large Extender II's 2 Target Painters (or 1 painter, 1 hardener/extender) 2 BCU II's 3 SPR's Judging by my experience (in a ferox) so far the passive tank should be fine (possibly a 3rd large extender II if needed) but i'm wondering why none of the setups listed so far mention target painters? Surely when using siege they will help on almost all rat sizes and give a significant DPS boost?
Alowishus Shadow Company Alektorophobia	Posted - 2006.11.12 07:17:00 - [145] For group gate camping and fleet battles: 6x Cruise 2 (Wrath Fury) 2x Heavy Diminishing Nos 4x Phased Muon Sensor Damps 1x Large Extender 2 1x XLarge Shield Booster 2 3x BCU 2 1x PDU 2 1x CPro 2 The moderators here are excellent at policing signatures.
Alowishus Shadow Company Alektorophobia	Posted - 2006.11.12 07:54:00 - [146] You know, playing with QuickFit over and over, I'm left wondering, even though the Raven is the current Eve "win button" is it worth playing with such a boring ship? Is there any good non-cookie cutter way to set this thing up? FFS. ****es me off a little that this ship is so "good" yet so inarguably boring. The moderators here are excellent at policing signatures.
Jazen Caldari Shadow Tribe	Posted - 2006.11.13 17:06:00 - [147] Originally by: Alowishus You know, playing with QuickFit over and over, I'm left wondering, even though the Raven is the current Eve "win button" is it worth playing with such a boring ship? Is there any good non-cookie cutter way to set this thing up? FFS. ****es me off a little that this ship is so "good" yet so inarguably boring. lol...that's like saying, "I love Taco Bell, its great! But all they serve is mexican (ish) food, that's so boring." Yeah there probably are some off the wall setups that might catch someone off guard, but they probably won't work in every situation. Just like most MMO's, for certain things there are just certain builds that eventually rise to the top. Its not that the ship is boring, its that its limited by its bonuses and the race it belongs too. Yeah sure you can fit large proj's and do an armor tank, but that'd be about retarded...you're not using the inherent bonuses in the ship. These "cookie-cutter" builds only exist because countless other players have tweaked things over and over and tested again and again till they found what works best for most situations THEY encounter. You're milage might be different with their setups, but if you see the same setup repeated over and over with minor variations...its prolly a winner. Every ship in eve is basically like this at some level, its not just the raven. If you still think its all that boring, here's what you do..... GET A DIFFERENT SHIP. No one says you have to fly the darned thing. kid: "Mommy! Mommy! I love my transformers but they're getting boring. What do I do?" mom: "Play with your other toys." Oh...and just so I feel all forum-ie and flame like.... GG noob. GG. (so just kidding) -Semper Fi-
Alowishus Shadow Company Alektorophobia	Posted - 2006.11.13 20:26:00 - [148] Understood. But it seems other ships are far more versatile. Dominix for instance (which I can't even fly ). Oh well. I have near maxed skills in Caldari, Minmatar and Amarr so I have some options. Just wanted to take a look at the Raven. I came up with a few good setups, I suppose, but they were pretty predictable and looking in this thread, seem to be nothing new. Which is fine, I guess. The Raven credo seems to be: "do consistant damage, tank hard and maybe Ewar if you want to." Which, when it comes to PvP, is all one can ask for. The moderators here are excellent at policing signatures.
Gyro DuAquin1 Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.14 08:23:00 - [149] Originally by: Alowishus For group gate camping and fleet battles: 6x Cruise 2 (Wrath Fury) 2x Heavy Diminishing Nos 4x Phased Muon Sensor Damps 1x Large Extender 2 1x XLarge Shield Booster 2 3x BCU 2 1x PDU 2 1x CPro 2 hmm gate camping with no sensor booster doenst make that much of a sense too me, as u need 16 seconds to lock someones battleship, then put in ur damps to a vessel that is in strucuture, already dead or has warped off. Get rid of ur shield tank, put in 2 sensor booster, then kick of the pdu and the cpu and do some plating with damage control
Roy Gordon	Posted - 2006.11.17 14:14:00 - [150] Lot’s of interesting set-ups here! Having just purchased my first Raven I’ve been pondering the set-up I’m going to use. My first version runs something along these lines- Highs 6 x Arbalest/T2 Cruise 1 x 150mm Proto/T2 rail gun 1 x Small Tractor beam Meds 1 x T2 Cap Recharger 1 x T2 Large Shield Booster 1 x T2 Large Shield Extender 2 X Specific Shield Hardeners 1 x T2 Invul Field Lows 3 x T2 PDS 2 x T2 BCU But… Taking on board peoples comments on how long/difficult it can take down rat frigates with this type of set-up, I was wondering if this insane configuration would work- Highs 2 x T2 Assault Launchers 4 x T2 Cruise/T2 Torps 2 x T2 250mm Medium Rail guns Meds Same as above set-up Lows 3 x T2 PDS 1 x T2 BCU 1 x T2 Mag Field Stab My take on this is that the Assault Launchers will be able to take down those pesky rat frigs real quick using T2 ammo, especially if the 250mm rails can hit the frigs before they close range. The 250mm rails can be combined with the Cruise/Torps to take down any bigger ships, especially when loaded with T2 ammo. The same reason why fitting the Assault Launchers with T2 ammo as, with the right skills trained, they should be doing the same damage as Heavy missiles. That which does not kill us makes us stronger. The Universe is ruled by three basic principles- Matter, Energy and Enlightened Self-Interest!



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