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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow C.L.O.N.E.
1311
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:45:00 -
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With the upcoming mobile structures and POCOs in hi sec, CCP has shown the first signs of breaking the hi seccer's dependence on NPCs for content and services.
While this is a step in the right direction, it doesn't go far enough. The more things we can hand control of to the players, the deeper and more complex this game becomes.
How would you alter hi sec to decrease dependency on NPC services and hand more content creation power to the players? |

Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
273
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:50:00 -
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something that has a lot of HP that they can own and maintain by bashing.
they love that sort of thing. |

Karrl Tian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
237
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:52:00 -
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Faction Navies go bye-bye. If there's a Smuggler/Outlaw/Enemy Militia outside the station, it should be the players who go after them. Would put some much needed Highsec PvP back in after Crimewatch and Inferno killed most of it. |

Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:59:00 -
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Please remove CONCORD, faction NPCs, gate and station guns, and cyno-jammers. Keep bubbles in null, I hate bubbles. |

Rekkr Nordgard
The Ardency of Faith Filthy Bastards
95
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:02:00 -
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Posting in an "all of Eve should be nullsec" thread. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
7132
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:08:00 -
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By leading the lemmings/sheep to slaughter, CCP has shown that it cares not for highseccers anymore.
By giving highsec gankers new mobile depots to refit in, CCP shows that it cares not for highseccers 'safety' anymore.
By letting anyone place POCOs in highsec, CCP shows that it cares not for highseccer easy money anymore.
Clearly this shows that CCP is getting ready to Nerf highsec.
Finally. |

Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:10:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:By giving highsec gankers new mobile depots to refit in, CCP shows that it cares not for highseccers 'safety' anymore.
SSSSHHHHHHHH
Also, not a "all of high should be null" thread. No bubbles. I repeat, no bubbles.
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Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
617
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:20:00 -
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I like the idea of players having more sway in Empire but I honestly feel it would be better as stronger links to FW and Capsuleers supporting the Empires.
I'm one of the few who loves EVE for the lore and to see the the Empires just become more NullSec renter space would be pretty lame. |

Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
273
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:21:00 -
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bubbles and bombs all over jita please.
it will be very revealing about exactly who these 'highseccers' are.
obvious not before i'm done shopping though. |

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1439
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:30:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:By leading the lemmings/sheep to slaughter, CCP has shown that it cares not for highseccers anymore.
By giving highsec gankers new mobile depots to refit in, CCP shows that it cares not for highseccers 'safety' anymore.
By letting anyone place POCOs in highsec, CCP shows that it cares not for highseccer easy money anymore.
Clearly this shows that CCP is getting ready to Nerf highsec.
Finally.
What I have been saying for years. CCP plans on trashing its subscription base on the gamble that they will retain enough of its existing base and at the same time attract every sociopath not playing Eve already.
It will be a disaster of course, but I will enjoy watching CCP go down in flames. |
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
992
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:30:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:By giving highsec gankers new mobile depots to refit in, CCP shows that it cares not for highseccers 'safety' anymore. SSSSHHHHHHHH Also, not a "all of high should be null" thread. No bubbles. I repeat, no bubbles.
Well I disagree, now that the bubbles will have different colours I want more bubbles.
I want more pretty colours in my EVE without having to zoom all the way in on my ship during a fight. |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
1180
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:33:00 -
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CCP clearly don't have resources to develop EVE further so my vision of the future is focused on 5 upcoming sandbox MMO games. |

masternerdguy
Inner Shadow C.L.O.N.E.
1315
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:47:00 -
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Karrl Tian wrote:Faction Navies go bye-bye. If there's a Smuggler/Outlaw/Enemy Militia outside the station, it should be the players who go after them. Would put some much needed Highsec PvP back in after Crimewatch and Inferno killed most of it.
Now this is a fair idea.
Concord will still respond to unauthorized violence in hi sec, but if you don't want pirates flying through your space you'll have to shoot them yourselves (which you can since they're <-5 sec status). |

epicurus ataraxia
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
195
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Posted - 2013.11.09 23:52:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Karrl Tian wrote:Faction Navies go bye-bye. If there's a Smuggler/Outlaw/Enemy Militia outside the station, it should be the players who go after them. Would put some much needed Highsec PvP back in after Crimewatch and Inferno killed most of it. Now this is a fair idea. Concord will still respond to unauthorized violence in hi sec, but if you don't want pirates flying through your space you'll have to shoot them yourselves (which you can since they're <-5 sec status).
Ok Put hisec players in a lawless environment where those who have vast PvP experience, logistics,experienced flight commanders, and knowledge of combat mechanics. and bloodthirsty half insane teenagers. who nullsquark ALL THE TIME, Are free to roam.
What could possibly go wrong???? |

Serptimis
Balls Deep Inc.
207
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Posted - 2013.11.10 00:02:00 -
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It would be strange for a business to alienate its own customer base unnecessarily, until you remember that CCP are the self harming emo teenagers of the game developing community. |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
1989
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Posted - 2013.11.10 00:30:00 -
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For a more realistic Answer:
Removal of all highsec industry slots.
The additional of a rental system, so players can, anonymously, rent industry time from other players POS (or similar) |

Krimishkev
The Revolutionaries
35
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Posted - 2013.11.10 00:40:00 -
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What a lot of people don't seem to realize is that certain people like casual solo gameplay. What a lot of people don't realize even more is that these casual solo high sec types make the non-casual players pvp gear cheap, and easy to obtain. So if you continually hand over control of major game resource contributions to player control things will get more expensive. Also more and more HUGE BLOBS of crap will form in order to compensate.
I dont care either way, I get along fine.
But.. food for thought. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1412
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Posted - 2013.11.10 00:41:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Karrl Tian wrote:Faction Navies go bye-bye. If there's a Smuggler/Outlaw/Enemy Militia outside the station, it should be the players who go after them. Would put some much needed Highsec PvP back in after Crimewatch and Inferno killed most of it. Now this is a fair idea. Concord will still respond to unauthorized violence in hi sec, but if you don't want pirates flying through your space you'll have to shoot them yourselves (which you can since they're <-5 sec status). Ok Put hisec players in a lawless environment where those who have vast PvP experience, logistics,experienced flight commanders, and knowledge of combat mechanics. and bloodthirsty half insane teenagers. who nullsquark ALL THE TIME, Are free to roam. What could possibly go wrong????
I don't see the highsec crowd being forced to learn to defend themselves for once being a bad thing. Nor taking some responsibility for what happens in their space, instead of letting the AI do it for them. |

Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
638
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Posted - 2013.11.10 00:56:00 -
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People's hatred of high will result in the death of the game they love.
Seriously, why so mad of other people's playstyle.
Its just like a person saying they want to bring concord to null. It's that ridiculous.
If you want people to come to lnull and low, why don't you take the time to invite them into your corp and actually take them out ot low and null. Being hot and bothered because you can't shoot them in high-sec just makes you look petty. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1412
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Posted - 2013.11.10 01:03:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:People's hatred of high will result in the death of the game they love.
Seriously, why so mad of other people's playstyle.
Its just like a person saying they want to bring concord to null. It's that ridiculous.
If you want people to come to lnull and low, why don't you take the time to invite them into your corp and actually take them out ot low and null. Being hot and bothered because you can't shoot them in high-sec just makes you look petty.
I would counter with the concept that, highsec was never intended to be as safe as it is right now, and after constant knee jerk safety buffs at the behest of the exceptionally whiny highsec carebear playerbase it has grown into something out of control, and needs to be pruned down back into balance with the rest of space.
So, I don't see as being mad at someone else's playstyle on the part of everyone who doesn't cling to highsec. I see it as being mad that highsec won't stop asking for buffs to safety, over and over and over again, despite the fact that they are safer now than they have ever been, or have ever deserved to be.
So it's time to take a little of that back, so the whiny bastards have to something to actually complain about. |
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Seraph Essael
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2013.11.10 01:11:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:For a more realistic Answer:
Removal of all highsec industry slots.
The additional of a rental system, so players can, anonymously, rent industry time from other players POS (or similar)
If you were to do this, I would hate to see the state of the market afterwards... |

Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
639
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Posted - 2013.11.10 01:13:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:People's hatred of high will result in the death of the game they love.
Seriously, why so mad of other people's playstyle.
Its just like a person saying they want to bring concord to null. It's that ridiculous.
If you want people to come to lnull and low, why don't you take the time to invite them into your corp and actually take them out ot low and null. Being hot and bothered because you can't shoot them in high-sec just makes you look petty. I would counter with the concept that, highsec was never intended to be as safe as it is right now, and after constant knee jerk safety buffs at the behest of the exceptionally whiny highsec carebear playerbase it has grown into something out of control, and needs to be pruned down back into balance with the rest of space. So, I don't see as being mad at someone else's playstyle on the part of everyone who doesn't cling to highsec. I see it as being mad that highsec won't stop asking for buffs to safety, over and over and over again, despite the fact that they are safer now than they have ever been, or have ever deserved to be. So it's time to take a little of that back, so the whiny bastards have to something to actually complain about.
Well... I don't ask for buffs. I simply play the game by its rules. You can be mad that people make comments I suppose for buffs. I don't care if CCP buffs null, wormhole, and low.
But that still means you are getting hot and bothered by people.
Secondly, CCP player numbers actually increased dramatically when they made high sec. They've said the majority of the player base is in high sec. Simply throwing all those people to the wolves is bad for business.
There is a large group of players that would like nothing better to do than ruin other people's game play until they quit. They have an agenda and they relish every time they try to take over CSM.
But personally I'm not invested in whether or not CCP stays in business or not so I'm not really bothered by it. I'm playing their game until something better comes along. I'm certainly not playing this game because the company has integrity, that's for sure.
If CCP did fail and close it doors (most likely due to all its wasted money on unsuccessful side projects and inability to deal with changing markets such as the likes of Star Citizen) I think I would get smug and say "I told you so" but I'm not about to rub my nipples over it.
Hrm.... Maybe I will. |

Krimishkev
The Revolutionaries
35
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Posted - 2013.11.10 01:17:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:People's hatred of high will result in the death of the game they love.
Seriously, why so mad of other people's playstyle.
Its just like a person saying they want to bring concord to null. It's that ridiculous.
If you want people to come to lnull and low, why don't you take the time to invite them into your corp and actually take them out ot low and null. Being hot and bothered because you can't shoot them in high-sec just makes you look petty. I would counter with the concept that, highsec was never intended to be as safe as it is right now, and after constant knee jerk safety buffs at the behest of the exceptionally whiny highsec carebear playerbase it has grown into something out of control, and needs to be pruned down back into balance with the rest of space. So, I don't see as being mad at someone else's playstyle on the part of everyone who doesn't cling to highsec. I see it as being mad that highsec won't stop asking for buffs to safety, over and over and over again, despite the fact that they are safer now than they have ever been, or have ever deserved to be. So it's time to take a little of that back, so the whiny bastards have to something to actually complain about.
I hope you're and alt of someone who's actually played the game since beta... otherwise this opinion in the scope of your eve experience context means nothing.
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Deunan Tenephais
4
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Posted - 2013.11.10 01:24:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:What I have been saying for years. CCP plans on trashing its subscription base on the gamble that they will retain enough of its existing base and at the same time attract every sociopath not playing Eve already.
It will be a disaster of course, but I will enjoy watching CCP go down in flames. Don't forget about all the PLEX that the hiseccers buy to CCP, not only will it be a dry loss but they also won't be available to nullseccers for ingame money anymore, these people will have to pay for their subs. I think we will see a reduction in alt numbers if CCP do away with high sec. |

Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
55
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Posted - 2013.11.10 01:57:00 -
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I would love to see more player driven content. Make all of space less cozy by penalizing blobs, getting rid of reinforcement timers, removing local from all non-empire systems, getting rid of structures automatically alerting whole groups that they're under attack. These things are completely ridiculous. EVE isn't supposed to be a game where your hand is held, you're supposed to fend for yourself. It's time we force people to play the game, instead of having the game play itself. Why should the game alert you every time an enemy enters a system, or takes a potshot against a structure you haven't actually seen in 6 months, or stop an attack because you can't be bothered to patrol? The game even does the patrolling for you by magically broadcasting that something is under attack. Oh, you were whining about the "other guys" having it too easy? My bad. Yea, I can live with hisec being more dangerous as long as the changes I just mentioned are implemented as well. |

Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
291
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Posted - 2013.11.10 02:11:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:By giving highsec gankers new mobile depots to refit in, CCP shows that it cares not for highseccers 'safety' anymore. SSSSHHHHHHHH Also, not a "all of high should be null" thread. No bubbles. I repeat, no bubbles.
Bubbles are fine. Gate guns are not. |

Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
291
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Posted - 2013.11.10 02:13:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Karrl Tian wrote:Faction Navies go bye-bye. If there's a Smuggler/Outlaw/Enemy Militia outside the station, it should be the players who go after them. Would put some much needed Highsec PvP back in after Crimewatch and Inferno killed most of it. Now this is a fair idea. Concord will still respond to unauthorized violence in hi sec, but if you don't want pirates flying through your space you'll have to shoot them yourselves (which you can since they're <-5 sec status). Ok Put hisec players in a lawless environment where those who have vast PvP experience, logistics,experienced flight commanders, and knowledge of combat mechanics. and bloodthirsty half insane teenagers. who nullsquark ALL THE TIME, Are free to roam. What could possibly go wrong???? They aren't teenagers they are mainly late 20's to mid 40's. |

Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
291
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Posted - 2013.11.10 02:20:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:For a more realistic Answer:
Removal of all highsec industry slots.
The additional of a rental system, so players can, anonymously, rent industry time from other players POS (or similar) If you were to do this, I would hate to see the state of the market afterwards...
You and all the others who think like you underestimate the amount of industry alts even new null sec players like me have. null sec (and i am npc null) isk + dual account training = i can switch my isk making time to whatever i feel like/ makes the most isk. 1000's of other like me can easily replace the current slumlords if they pack it in (which they won't).
evolution.
survival of the fittest.
Only people that deserve to play eve will be allowed to continue.
eve will continue to grow as it always has done. |

Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
642
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Posted - 2013.11.10 02:25:00 -
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Silvetica Dian wrote:Only people that deserve to play eve will be allowed to continue.
Enjoy playing by yourself. |

Anomaly One
Hedion University Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.11.10 02:25:00 -
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Silvetica Dian wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:For a more realistic Answer:
Removal of all highsec industry slots.
The additional of a rental system, so players can, anonymously, rent industry time from other players POS (or similar) If you were to do this, I would hate to see the state of the market afterwards... You and all the others who think like you underestimate the amount of industry alts even new null sec players like me have. null sec (and i am npc null) isk + dual account training = i can switch my isk making time to whatever i feel like/ makes the most isk. 1000's of other like me can easily replace the current slumlords if they pack it in (which they won't). evolution. survival of the fittest. Only people that have enough alts to play eve will be allowed to continue.
eve will continue to increase the population as it always has done.
fix't |
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