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Zarak1 Kenpach1 Aperture Harmonics K162 7	Posted - 2011.11.16 19:23:00 - [871] - Quote Nemesor wrote: Morgan North wrote: I'll only start thinking Hybrids are balanced when I can triple plate my Vigilant with a full neutron rack and a 1600. crap post is crap. funny post is funny. your crap post is crap. at least he has a sense of humor
Zarak1 Kenpach1 Aperture Harmonics K162 7	Posted - 2011.11.16 19:27:00 - [872] - Quote I tried out the changes on sis prior to the added 5% damage and i was satisfied with how fast i could close space on a target in a vigilant and fit the ship. when i gave them a try in spring i had to make too many compromises to get the neutron rack i wanted and this is now not the case. alot of you are complaining that the gallente will not have a niche but, i can tell you from a great deal of time spent out here in unknown space that their niche will be wormhole combat
thoth rothschild First Aid Emergency Service 24	Posted - 2011.11.16 19:39:00 - [873] - Quote post wasn't productive, removed it.
Daedalus Arcova Havoc Violence and Chaos BricK sQuAD. 116	Posted - 2011.11.16 19:40:00 - [874] - Quote Zarak1 Kenpach1 wrote: I tried out the changes on sis prior to the added 5% damage and i was satisfied with how fast i could close space on a target in a vigilant and fit the ship. Congratulations for being fast enough to use blasters when you fly a bling faction cruiser. Now try again in a Thorax, or a Brutix, or a Deimos, Megathron, Hyperion, or Astarte.
Zarak1 Kenpach1 Aperture Harmonics K162 7	Posted - 2011.11.16 19:44:00 - [875] - Quote qq its not ccp's nor my fault that people are too lazy to get money. changes are good +1 tallest
thoth rothschild First Aid Emergency Service 24	Posted - 2011.11.16 19:47:00 - [876] - Quote Sry but may i ask for 125 bandwidth on the kronos back ? Don't ask me what i'm going to do with it :p
Zarak1 Kenpach1 Aperture Harmonics K162 7	Posted - 2011.11.16 19:51:00 - [877] - Quote Daedalus Arcova wrote: Zarak1 Kenpach1 wrote: I tried out the changes on sis prior to the added 5% damage and i was satisfied with how fast i could close space on a target in a vigilant and fit the ship. Congratulations for being fast enough to use blasters when you fly a bling faction cruiser. Now try again in a Thorax, or a Brutix, or a Deimos, Megathron, Hyperion, or Astarte. i guess you didnt even try any of these out on sisi or even bother to look at them on EFT at all. Deimos can tank better than the vig and has the same agi, asarte gets even more tank and the same agi buff as the diemost and vig. not to mention the proteus. oh my goodness the proteus. 150k ehp and moves like the vig.
Nemesor Stimulus Rote Kapelle 39	Posted - 2011.11.16 19:53:00 - [878] - Quote NVM. Going to ignore obvious troll... because it is obvious.
Zarak1 Kenpach1 Aperture Harmonics K162 8	Posted - 2011.11.16 19:55:00 - [879] - Quote lol! Go do your own homework sonny boy.
Nemesor Stimulus Rote Kapelle 39	Posted - 2011.11.16 19:58:00 - [880] - Quote Zarak1 Kenpach1 wrote: lol! Go do your own homework sonny boy. Productive. Informative. Not at all ignorant.
thoth rothschild First Aid Emergency Service 24	Posted - 2011.11.16 19:58:00 - [881] - Quote Well i'm out for some brawling today :D Dude. You are dumb. I can not imagine a single person out in space not able to see and understand the principles of damage projection and kiting :) Astarte mad giggles Deja Vu ^^
Morn Hyland Amnion Partners 39	Posted - 2011.11.16 19:58:00 - [882] - Quote CCP Soundwave wrote: We'll look into hybrids again after this goes out on a basis of what's needed. We've made the first round of changes, once these go live we'll monitor usage, fleet composition etc. If these changes yield an underwhelming results, we'll continue to tweak them. Far to complicated - I'm sure your economist is constantly telling you that you have a really good market at work in EvE. You should be able to tell if you've got the buff right by just logging in to Jita 4/4 a couple of week time after the patch has bedded in. Rails - especially the 350mm and 425mm have been "selling" in Jita at less than their build cost for a very long time - only the hybrid blog has made a small difference recently. Dual 150mm and 200mm are still being priced at below manufactured cost - hardly a vote of confidence. If volumes have ticked up and it is worth inventing at the Jita sale price you've been successful. You may have overdone it the price spikes up to autocannon profit levels (and above) and stays high with increasing volumes. Personally I expect to see Eagles still on the market at around 90 million i.e. less than their build cost...but I would like to be wrong.
thoth rothschild First Aid Emergency Service 24	Posted - 2011.11.16 20:02:00 - [883] - Quote Morn Hyland wrote: CCP Soundwave wrote: We'll look into hybrids again after this goes out on a basis of what's needed. We've made the first round of changes, once these go live we'll monitor usage, fleet composition etc. If these changes yield an underwhelming results, we'll continue to tweak them. Far to complicated - I'm sure your economist is constantly telling you that you have a really good market at work in EvE. You should be able to tell if you've got the buff right by just logging in to Jita 4/4 a couple of week time after the patch has bedded in. Rails - especially the 350mm and 425mm have been "selling" in Jita at less than their build cost for a very long time - only the hybrid blog has made a small difference recently. Dual 150mm and 200mm are still being priced at below manufactured cost - hardly a vote of confidence. If volumes have ticked up and it is worth inventing at the Jita sale price you've been successful. You may have overdone it the price spikes up to autocannon profit levels (and above) and stays high with increasing volumes. Personally I expect to see Eagles still on the market at around 90 million i.e. less than their build cost...but I would like to be wrong. Correct. easiest way to judge adjustments is not listening to words but looking at the market :D Not only prices but also number of ships sold and number of ships destroyed :D Best argument i've seen in a long time +1 from me. that post can not be trolled at all.
Pinky Denmark The Cursed Navy Important Internet Spaceship League 35	Posted - 2011.11.16 20:09:00 - [884] - Quote Looking at market and fleet composition is a good way to follow the impact of hybrid changes, however only looking into some of the issues with hybrids in the first place seems blasphemic to balance... Pinky
Zarak1 Kenpach1 Aperture Harmonics K162 8	Posted - 2011.11.16 20:10:00 - [885] - Quote Nemesor wrote: Zarak1 Kenpach1 wrote: lol! Go do your own homework sonny boy. Productive. Informative. Not at all ignorant. its not my job to show you how to fit ships appropriately. you have the same ability to click modules in EFT and try it out on SiSi just like i did. now hippity hop to it young buck
Mekhana Spiritus Draconis 304	Posted - 2011.11.16 20:17:00 - [886] - Quote Morn Hyland wrote: CCP Soundwave wrote: We'll look into hybrids again after this goes out on a basis of what's needed. We've made the first round of changes, once these go live we'll monitor usage, fleet composition etc. If these changes yield an underwhelming results, we'll continue to tweak them. Far to complicated - I'm sure your economist is constantly telling you that you have a really good market at work in EvE. You should be able to tell if you've got the buff right by just logging in to Jita 4/4 a couple of week time after the patch has bedded in. Rails - especially the 350mm and 425mm have been "selling" in Jita at less than their build cost for a very long time - only the hybrid blog has made a small difference recently. Dual 150mm and 200mm are still being priced at below manufactured cost - hardly a vote of confidence. If volumes have ticked up and it is worth inventing at the Jita sale price you've been successful. You may have overdone it the price spikes up to autocannon profit levels (and above) and stays high with increasing volumes. Personally I expect to see Eagles still on the market at around 90 million i.e. less than their build cost...but I would like to be wrong. Worthy of praise.
Nemesor Stimulus Rote Kapelle 39	Posted - 2011.11.16 20:18:00 - [887] - Quote Zarak1 Kenpach1 wrote: Nemesor wrote: Zarak1 Kenpach1 wrote: lol! Go do your own homework sonny boy. Productive. Informative. Not at all ignorant. its not my job to show you how to fit ships appropriately. you have the same ability to click modules in EFT and try it out on SiSi just like i did. now hippity hop to it young buck Says the idiot from 2008. I don't think I disputed your fits or said they were not possible. Are you confusing me with someone else?
Zarak1 Kenpach1 Aperture Harmonics K162 8	Posted - 2011.11.16 20:21:00 - [888] - Quote pot calling the kettle black on the ignorance jive. you so funny mister. heres a nickel for your empty cofee cup
Nemesor Stimulus Rote Kapelle 39	Posted - 2011.11.16 20:22:00 - [889] - Quote Zarak1 Kenpach1 wrote: pot calling the kettle black on the ignorance jive. you so funny mister. heres a nickel for your empty cofee cup Are you going to attempt to be productive or jibber on like some sort of inbred mongrel.
Zarak1 Kenpach1 Aperture Harmonics K162 8	Posted - 2011.11.16 20:24:00 - [890] - Quote are you going to sit there and press refresh over and over or actually go test things out and provide feedback to ccp like i did?
Nemesor Stimulus Rote Kapelle 39	Posted - 2011.11.16 20:27:00 - [891] - Quote Zarak1 Kenpach1 wrote: are you going to sit there and press refresh over and over or actually go test things out and provide feedback to ccp like i did? First. I have tested extensively. Second, I read back and in your blind need to try and troll this forum, you confused me with another poster. Like a desperate 12 year old eager for the attention your parents never gave you, you latched onto me hoping to have someone speak to you. Third. Your posts provide nothing constructive, nothing productive and nothing informative. They are therefore ignored.
Zarak1 Kenpach1 Aperture Harmonics K162 8	Posted - 2011.11.16 20:29:00 - [892] - Quote lol you are mad again ccp you have done a good job here.
thoth rothschild First Aid Emergency Service 24	Posted - 2011.11.16 20:29:00 - [893] - Quote May i ask why you prefer the Sleipnir zarak and not the astarte :)
Sigras Conglomo IMPERIAL LEGI0N 46	Posted - 2011.11.16 20:30:00 - [894] - Quote guys, seriously what do you want? If they make wide sweeping changes everyone screams that theyre changing too much too fast if they change incrementally everyone screams that theyre doing nothing! Personally I'd rather have this than them buffing blaster damage and range by 500% and giving gallente 90% webs back. Ill be the first one upset if they dont continue to tweak blasters, but really, which would you rather have; a new FOTM or them slowly turn up the heat on blasters until theyre right?
Magosian Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 136	Posted - 2011.11.16 20:48:00 - [895] - Quote Sigras wrote: guys, seriously what do you want? If they make wide sweeping changes everyone screams that theyre changing too much too fast if they change incrementally everyone screams that theyre doing nothing! Personally I'd rather have this than them buffing blaster damage and range by 500% and giving gallente 90% webs back. Ill be the first one upset if they dont continue to tweak blasters, but really, which would you rather have; a new FOTM or them slowly turn up the heat on blasters until theyre right? Honestly? I want hybrids to do something better than lasers and projectiles. Hybrids need appeal. THAT would be a good start. No doubt tweaking of stats would be needed after the fact. A fundamental change needs to happen first. Modifying stats on a fundamentally broken turret just means you're making the weapon further excel at being broken. I honestly don't see Crucible hybrid changes fixing anything. It's one change, maybe two, and I doubt it would be sweeping. Something like omni-damage hybrid ammo and a slight boost to range would be a good start. CCP can keep all the Crucible stuff.
Magosian Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 136	Posted - 2011.11.16 20:53:00 - [896] - Quote thoth rothschild wrote: May i ask why you prefer the Sleipnir zarak and not the astarte and why you have never flown or lost a single gallente ship? :) C'mon now, don't lie. He's lost a few Gallente shuttles.
thoth rothschild First Aid Emergency Service 25	Posted - 2011.11.16 21:02:00 - [897] - Quote I would never lie ! I really like mozzarella and tokajer and Sleipnirs :p He would not have lost those shuttles if the gate campers would have used eagles with rails instead of hurricanes.
Kalot Sakaar CragCO 18	Posted - 2011.11.16 21:13:00 - [898] - Quote What's really funny about all this is the Talos, its like the flag ship of this whole discussion. Not only is it nearly pointless and out performed by the Naga, even if fit with blasters....but even funnier is that the Talos will be the most expensive of the ships and have the highest material requirements to build. Never understood why Gallente ships, the ones that must always commit 100% to each fight and have little GTFO ability are always the most expensive.... oh wait, because Minimatar get that plus also.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 173	Posted - 2011.11.16 21:15:00 - [899] - Quote Sigras wrote: guys, seriously what do you want? If they make wide sweeping changes everyone screams that theyre changing too much too fast if they change incrementally everyone screams that theyre doing nothing! Personally I'd rather have this than them buffing blaster damage and range by 500% and giving gallente 90% webs back. Ill be the first one upset if they dont continue to tweak blasters, but really, which would you rather have; a new FOTM or them slowly turn up the heat on blasters until theyre right? sure, let them do it incrementally. as long as people realize this thing will drag out for an entire year. theyre just not getting my money until balance is established, simple as that. to me, this "expansion" is really garbage, gameplay-wise, because im not getting anything that was on that original list. maybe in 6 months, there will be something to see here. CCP: - hybrid/Gallente balancing - FW - nullsec - AF's do it. until then, please dont call graphical updates "expansions." jesus. move along people, just another CCP moment. and i want my 4.95 back. seriously.
Mariner6 EVE University Ivy League 34	Posted - 2011.11.16 21:33:00 - [900] - Quote Pattern Clarc wrote: RankShipsKills 1Drake54822 2Hurricane47905 3Abaddon34259 4Armageddon 21631 5Zealot15305 6Tempest13981 7Maelstrom13797 8Dramiel13186 9Rifter10627 10Cynabal9963 11Sabre9563 12Rapier8719 13Scimitar8496 14Tengu8312 15Hound8265 16Vagabond7737 17Manticore7276 18Loki 7110 19Harbinger6001 20Capsule 5365 Today in the top twenty we have: 3 Caldari 10 Minmatar 4 Amarr 2 Angel 0 Gallente Anyone see that changing with the current set of fixes on SISI? 1) May I ask where you get this info? Is there a general all EVE kill board? 2) If this is accurate then this is by far the best stat I've seen proving the case of not just Hybrids sucking but Gallente as a whole.

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