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Alundil
Rolled Out
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Posted - 2014.06.01 22:29:00 -
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RavenTesio wrote:[quote=Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris] Especially as only last year or so at the Russian CCP event they were showing off Prototype gameplay footage (done in Unity) of how they were thinking of implementing Incarna for getting implants for Dust from Wormhole (Sleeper) space. So it's not like they've completely shelved it internally
Is there any other available information about this? This would be interesting.
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RavenTesio
Liandri Corporation Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2014.06.02 21:11:00 -
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Alundil wrote:RavenTesio wrote:[quote=Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris] Especially as only last year or so at the Russian CCP event they were showing off Prototype gameplay footage (done in Unity) of how they were thinking of implementing Incarna for getting implants for Dust from Wormhole (Sleeper) space. So it's not like they've completely shelved it internally Is there any other available information about this? This would be interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33cJpp8YGlI - this was from Mid-2012 in Berlin, but there was another from Russia that was better quality... unfortunately I can't find it anymore.
I also know there was some Dev Blog in October 2012, but again can't find it now; that outlined the "Gameplay" they were prototyping for Avatar (WiS / Incarna) that they were looking to add.
Don't get me wrong I understand they want to make sure that if they do work on this again there will be a "Gameplay" aspect to it, but that said there is more than simply Gameplay that will make it something useful and meaningful for players; even if at first it means it is little more than a 3D Chatroom - well consider what most players do right now while they're sitting around shooting the breeze.
We're spinning our Ships or looking at our limited view in Station, I mean part of why I turned off my Captains Quarter's is simply because that Door to the rest of the station taunts me every time. It doesn't make any sense why we can't go through it to be able to talk and interact with our friends, directors, bunnies, etc...
To those who are deeply into the Role Playing aspect of the game, it becomes one less barrier to maintaining your persona rather than blankly looking at little more than a chat box; and what frustrates me the most here is we know this technology is basically compete and working... we have Captains Quarters, Dust 514 has the Pre-Game Lobby, so this stuff is working.
So much effort went in to these features, for them to be relegated right now to little more than another Docked Interact that loads a bit slower; so most turn that off when they know they're going to want to dock and reship for PVP. Yet if you're not, well more often than not; you flick it back on... perhaps sit on the couch and wonder why you can't pick up that can of Quafe while watching the Galactic news on your 70" Holoscreen. |
Kabaos
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.29 12:42:00 -
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CCP and what are your plans about Walking in stations? Some answers? I'm waiting.. |
Delt0r Garsk
Sanctuary of Shadows Honorable Third Party
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:13:00 -
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Lets just hope for the rest of eve, they you are kept waiting a very long time.
Why don't you play Star Citizen. I hear you can run around the station all day. Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good. |
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:32:00 -
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Delt0r Garsk wrote:Lets just hope for the rest of eve, they you are kept waiting a very long time.
Why don't you play Star Citizen. I hear you can run around the station all day. Let's not be negative.
There is no reason to expect that any improvements to WiS will have a negative impact on the ship side of things. It is a different section of code entirely, and the budget plus staffing would be a separate issue.
Would you rather CCP diversified into an entirely separate game again? Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked... |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:38:00 -
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WIS will not happen until another games proves how valuable avatar gameplay can be to a scifi game... But by then it will be too late.
You think eve has a problem retaining/attracting new players now? Wait to see what happens in a couple years +1 |
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
4331
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:50:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:WIS will not happen until another games proves how valuable avatar gameplay can be to a scifi game... But by then it will be too late. You think eve has a problem retaining/attracting new players now? Wait to see what happens in a couple years It is entirely possible that what we have now will be viewed as half of a game, in the years to come.
The walking in stations aspect has every potential to rival similar aspects of other MMO's, if done correctly. And those other MMOs... they do not have the spaceship side like EVE...
Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked... |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:31:00 -
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Why is this so blatantly being bumped ? Bumping in this forum is against the rules btw.!
Besides that, WiS is somewhere below the last place on my wishlist for anything regrading EVE and semingly not only on mine. Can we let it die ?
Once Legion and Single Login is fully integrated we can maybe have a look back at this .. before, simply no, please NO!
Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Ray Kyonhe
Ray's Relentless Research
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Posted - 2014.07.29 16:40:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote: Once Legion and Single Login is fully integrated we can maybe have a look back at this .. before, simply no, please NO!
Legion and Dust are least suitable addition to Eve's universe I could imagine. I don't want even think about them, not to actually play it. A BF\COD-like brainless shooter has nothing to do with Eve which based on planning and decision making. It's like some alien parasite on its body.
The only best approach to ambulations and all the similar WiS features (like sabotage or assasiantions) I can imagine is something similar to what can be experienced in Full Spectrum Warrior game series. In this combat simulator you have indirect control over the small squad of soldiers and have to make quick and well weighed decisions (not compete in who is strafes better and click mouse buttons faster) while time pressured by environment (and other players if its an MP game), and the price of mistakes is very high (there is no regenerations and revivals, and soldiers die very quickly if exposed to enemy fire). So much like Eve we know.
Here is actuall gameplay footage from it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRT5zooiKLQ Just swap modern weapons and armor with futuristic ones and you'll get an absolute winner for all speheres where fighting on foot should be assumed in Eve. Not some crappy generic MP shooter full of bunnyhopping teenagers. Survey/voting system inbuilt to the game client: link_Reforming corp and taxation system: link_New PvE content (reward collective gameplay): link |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2348
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Posted - 2014.07.29 20:47:00 -
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Ray Kyonhe wrote:Legion and Dust are least suitable addition to Eve's universe I could imagine. I don't want even think about them, not to actually play it. A BF\COD-like brainless shooter has nothing to do with Eve which based on planning and decision making. It's like some alien parasite on its body.
Except that CCP's design goal for DUST/Legion isn't to have "some brainless shooter". They want to make an FPS that requires thought and planning go into your character development because every choice you make matters - something that those other FPS games don't have.
Whether that goal can be achieved, however, is beyond the scope of my reply. |
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Ray Kyonhe
Ray's Relentless Research
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Posted - 2014.07.31 12:48:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote: They want to make an FPS that requires thought and planning go into your character development because every choice you make matters.
This won't change a thing if underlying gameplay will stay the same as what was seen in Dust. And it will most certnaly will. It will still be brainless hectic strafebattle driven spray-your-fire-all-around-without-second-thought one from Planetside/Battlefield/COD which has nothing to do with Eve's basic design concepts. Yes I hate those kind of games to the guts, so it makes me somewhat biased. But honestly such type of gameplay shoulnd't be in any form linked to Eve Online, the resulting Frankenstine makes me sick. Survey/voting system inbuilt to the game client: link_Reforming corp and taxation system: link_New PvE content (reward collective gameplay): link |
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
4332
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Posted - 2014.07.31 13:20:00 -
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Ray Kyonhe wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote: They want to make an FPS that requires thought and planning go into your character development because every choice you make matters.
This won't change a thing if underlying gameplay will stay the same as what was seen in Dust. And it will most certnaly will. It will still be brainless hectic strafebattle driven spray-your-fire-all-around-without-second-thought one from Planetside/Battlefield/COD which has nothing to do with Eve's basic design concepts. Yes I hate those kind of games to the guts, so it makes me somewhat biased. But honestly such type of gameplay shoulnd't be in any form linked to Eve Online, the resulting Frankenstine makes me sick. DUST might have had these traits you describe. I can't say from direct experience as some might be able to.
As an EVE player, I was unable to convince myself to go out and by a PS3, just to play this.
I am hoping they bring a version with more stable elements, and not just a MOBA with EVE inspired skins on it. Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked... |
Kabaos
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.12 18:27:00 -
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Hm some intresting game - Elite:Dangerous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBNmQqea6S0 |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.08.13 22:51:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post.
The Rules: 19. All posts must be related to EVE Online.
Posts regarding other companies and products or services are prohibited and any content of this nature will be removed. Posts regarding other games are however permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum for the purposes of discussion only. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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