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turnschuh	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:18:00 - [1] this is just plain stupid, you cannot transport stuff in empire worth more then 200mil since you just get blown up buy a lame suicide BS. make passive scanning an aggression. make cargo scanning an aggression. fix concord. this is not risk vs reward, empire is not save anymore and CCP is just ignoring it.
Sixtyniner	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:19:00 - [2] Empire is not suppose to be safe; only safer. If ill; sickbay. If wounded; Corpsman. If dead; graves registration. If losing his mind, however, no standard solution exists.
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:19:00 - [3] They already gave you killrights, you expect MORE??? -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' Nikolai can post twice as fast as me, and i'm uber -zhuge liang Uhm, I'm new to this, does this work? clickety Oveur
Xeaon	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:20:00 - [4] Get a BS escort.
The Enslaver	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:21:00 - [5] Originally by: Sixtyniner Empire is not suppose to be safe; only safer. Says it all. -------- Shinra Director
turnschuh	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:21:00 - [6] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari They already gave you killrights, you expect MORE??? killrights dont protect me from being ganked. killrights dont bring me my stuff back. killrights are pointless in this matter.
SengH	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:21:00 - [7] or you could just create a courier mission for yourself and package it for free and make it immune to scanning...
Trooper B99	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:23:00 - [8] Edited by: Trooper B99 on 01/03/2006 14:24:04 If you're transporting goods worth afew hundred million isk, the investment in a tech II industrial seems prudent rather than complaining your paper thin 400k tech I industrial was turned to debris where ever it happened. The tools to survive are out there, whether or not you choose to use them is up to you. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
hired goon	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:25:00 - [9] Owned. -omg-
Uther Doull	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:29:00 - [10] Edited by: Uther Doull on 01/03/2006 14:29:13 snip Let's not.- Laqum

Jernau Gurgeh	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:29:00 - [11] Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 01/03/2006 14:30:18 Just because you have problems transporting stuff through Empire, it doesn't automatically follow that it's the game that has a flaw. There are 10 sorts of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who do not.
Malachon Draco	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:32:00 - [12] Most of us live in what I would call 'safe countries'. Yet when I see an ATM being resupplied with money, its done by an armored car. Why? Why won't money transporting companies just use a Smart or a Daihatsu or whatever? It's safe, isn't it? There are limits to safety. Everywhere. EvE does no more than mimic real life here :D
Sendraks	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:34:00 - [13] Originally by: turnschuh this is not risk vs reward, empire is not save anymore and CCP is just ignoring it. Who said it was safe and who says your risk has to be minimal? The way I see it, the ones taking the risks are pirates in suicide bombers and for their risks they get a nice reward. Heck for transporting stuff in Empire even I use instas when I can. Better safe than sorry.
Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:34:00 - [14] Don't put 200 mil in an indy? Or better yet, don't go afk in a 200 mil indy?
aeti	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:35:00 - [15] use a t2 indy fit plates use secure cans use a freighter?
Jaketh Ivanes	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:37:00 - [16] Originally by: Uther Doull Edited by: Uther Doull on 01/03/2006 14:29:13 supossedly your mom already gave you a great 'greif prevention tool' it's called a brain... Thats so sexict (spelling?), what about his dad.. didn't he contribute to the brain?? On the topic, compared to RL, there is nothing preventing me form killing you on the streets. The cops can only react to my actions, not predict them. If you keep getting blown away, then take another route, use a cloak or nanofibers (mighty good for speedy warps).
Revara	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:38:00 - [17] Originally by: hired goon Owned. by far the funniest truest and most deserved post i have ever read - gonna go in my sig Originally by: turnschuh FFS CCP do something against suicide ganks in empire,you cannot transport stuff in empire worth more then 200mil you just get blown up buy a lame suicide BS [quote=hi
Gabrielle Black	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:39:00 - [18] Originally by: patch notes Police response/pursuit have significantly improved, primarily the timer controlling CONCORD reactions to a crime now matches the agression/criminal flag timer displayed in the UI. Military faction police have reviewed their manuals, and updated their KoS lists. If you have a faction standing of -5 or worse, they will now attack you. Frankly, I don't mind suicide ganking in empire, but if they're managing it by exploiting this second issue, I'd petition it. Either way, put your stuff in a can or something. If they risk killing you assuming that whatever is in the can is worth their BS, that's their choice. I happen to carry an empty can around occasionally too. :)
Alpha Centauri	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:40:00 - [19] I don't get it, what exactly does a suicide ganker get from it? If they destroy their own ship, who gets the loot? Sounds like a cheap laugh to me, maybe a bad day, or maybe they hate you or your corp. Somebody clarify the benefits of suicide ganking.
turnschuh	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:40:00 - [20] seams you all need to loose 10bil t2 BPOs first before you get a clue how stupid this "empire security" is at the moment.

Tobiaz	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:42:00 - [21] Originally by: turnschuh this is not risk vs reward, empire is not save anymore and CCP is just ignoring it. Empire never was safe and it was you who did the ignoring part. Spacerats hibernating
Malachon Draco	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:42:00 - [22] Originally by: Alpha Centauri I don't get it, what exactly does a suicide ganker get from it? If they destroy their own ship, who gets the loot? Sounds like a cheap laugh to me, maybe a bad day, or maybe they hate you or your corp. Somebody clarify the benefits of suicide ganking. Bandit nr 1. Blows you to pieces. Bandit nr 2. waits until you've been blown to pieces and picks up the loot while bandit nr.1 gets blown to pieces by Concord. Bandit 2 has the loot and is free to run off, and shares with bandit 1.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:43:00 - [23] If you got anything worth more put it in a freighter, those things don't drop diddley...iddley! Remind me about The Maze. I'm Danton Marcellus and I approve of this message.
Gray Carmicheal	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:44:00 - [24] Originally by: turnschuh seams you all need to loose 10bil t2 BPOs first before you get a clue how stupid this "empire security" is at the moment. Seems you need to get a clue at that fact that no place in Eve is a "Noobie" Zone. Infact, most days, I see that the "Newbie" Systems are the ones with the most shipkills. My sig was CONCORDOKKENED. I blame Wrangler H4x.
Tobiaz	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:44:00 - [25] Originally by: turnschuh seams you all need to loose 10bil t2 BPOs first before you get a clue how stupid this "empire security" is at the moment. There are several ways to make it close to impossible for suicide squads to gank you in empire. People losing T2 BPO's to a empire suicide gank didn't deserve them in the first place. Stop whining Spacerats hibernating
Minsc	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:53:00 - [26] Originally by: turnschuh seams you all need to loose 10bil t2 BPOs first before you get a clue how stupid this "empire security" is at the moment. If you lost 10 Billion isk worth of t2 bpo's while flying through empire UNESCORTED, that is entirely Your fault
Samor Madur	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:54:00 - [27] Originally by: SengH or you could just create a courier mission for yourself and package it for free and make it immune to scanning... I don't get this... how come you get immune to scanning in a courier mission?
Johncrab	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:58:00 - [28] Edited by: Johncrab on 01/03/2006 14:58:15 Originally by: Samor Madur Originally by: SengH or you could just create a courier mission for yourself and package it for free and make it immune to scanning... I don't get this... how come you get immune to scanning in a courier mission? ok, i get. making a pakage. sorry for the question edit: damn alts
inSpirAcy	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:59:00 - [29] Come on, a Transport ship (that's like 20 mil + 25 mil skill) with decent fittings is immune to most empire suicide attacks; unless there's a small squadron of BS willing to SB right next to you, your cargo's safe. I think it's quite neat that people have a chance at suicide attacks; and more credit to them if they make money out of it. If you're carrying anything of significant value (200 mil is significant), put it in a freighter. No amount of suicide ganking will do more than scratch the paintwork of one of those. And it's like 1 bil, even my sorry wallet can stretch to that.
SengH	Posted - 2006.03.01 14:59:00 - [30] its a different system all the stuff is shrink wrapped into one container so you can complete the mission to ensure that isnt tampered with. Its not the same as secure containers so im guessing the cargo scanning module has problems parsing it.



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