Last, we could have tried to make the Nestor powerful enough to justify the huge price-tag. We really didn't want to go with this option....

Why exactly would rogue drones drop BPC's for sisters of eve ships? That makes very little sense to me. It just seems like a quick hatchet job because you messed up. Usually I have a lot of respect for CCP Rise's ideas, but this one is bad. I would say go back to the drawing board and think of a more logical solution, although as the idea has got this far already I don't think that will now happen.

Oh, and Rise, another thing.

Way to go on letting market forces dictate economic costs.
Nice to see you let the game be a "sandbox", as you so like to say, except when you want to help out a null sec area, and nerf the **** out of another high sec income stream.

Highsec needs fewer isk faucets, and nullsec needs more income sources for individual pilots. Drone regions are especially bad, you basically rat in anoms or mine, that's the only choices for drone region dwellers, and lets not forget how horribly designed drone hordes are. The exploration sites are worthless, and there are no gas sites.

Nah, but PL pilots will be soon be going ka-ching with every Sentient Drone drop.
The individual and alliance coffers will soon be brimming again.

But makes you wonder, whatever happened to all that rental income in the first place.
If the BOTLrd agreement was designed to protect PL's income streams, where is that all that ISK that they have been collecting so far?

It doesn't really matter what is done with regards to cost at this point; the Nestor is the EVE equivalent of the "Spruce Goose". As has been previously pointed out, it's really only worth $500 to $600-million ISK based on current capabilities. It's certainly not worth more than a Vindicator or Machariel, and no amount of blueprint drops is going to offset this. With the ability to run a Covert Ops cloak it would be worth a small premium.

CCP Rise, just give the Nestor a Covert Ops cloak and be done with it. This ship was designed for wormhole play, and wormhole players really haven't been given much - so throw them a bone already... The Nestor is cost-prohibitive to the point where I can't see it being massive used in fleet actions, but if so - who cares?

Covert Ops on a battleship ha ha ha ha ha

Covert Ops on a battleship ha ha ha ha ha

Everyone claims it would be broken, yet we have never seen one in action. Given their slow align, slow lock times before cloak, and slow warp, I don't think it would actually be that much of an issue. Cloaky T3's haven't broken the game despite having near BS tanks (When talking about a Blops tank equivalent) & DPS.
It's not like we are talking about a cloaking Vindi.

I think you'll see CCP's opinion on cloaky T3's and T3's in general and their relative balance compared to other ships fairly soon.

I think you'll see CCP's opinion on cloaky T3's and T3's in general and their relative balance compared to other ships fairly soon.

Actually I'm pretty sure Cloaky T3's won't see very much of a nerf. The Super Tanky DPS T3 setup will see a Nerf for sure. And some other T3 area's will get a substantial buff. But Cloaky T3's slot in fairly well alongside the other T2 Cloakies.

Everyone claims it would be broken, yet we have never seen one in action. Given their slow align, slow lock times before cloak, and slow warp, I don't think it would actually be that much of an issue. Cloaky T3's haven't broken the game despite having near BS tanks (When talking about a Blops tank equivalent) & DPS.
It's not like we are talking about a cloaking Vindi.

I agree, and would actually go so far to suggest most of the cloaky T3s could use a bit of a damage buff.

Nope.. Cloakyt3 must be massively nerfed specially now tht the ships can be reconfigured in space

Any sites that spawn 'Sentient' Rogue Drone Frigates, Cruisers or Battleships can now drop these items..

Even with a price reduction to $800-million, the Nestor is still about 100% overpriced...

Ah great, so you are giving it in the rear to all those who are trying to get a Nestor through mission grinding. I see crapping all over the normal market dynamics is not a problem for you.

If you want to press the price of SOE ships down to a level that justifies their performances, I guesstimate you have to increase the supply by 3-400%. This will essentially make drones the only source worth considering if you are trying to obtain one of these BPCs, as only fools and people with bad math skills will try to obtain one through the LP store; if they do have SOE LP they should trade them for other high value SOE items, sell those and use the ISK to buy a BPC from a drone dropping.

So, what is the point having the ships in the SOE store then? Why is it priced at 600.000 SOE LP when you acknowledge it is not worth 600.000 SOE LP?*


*:Emphasize that SOE LP is and will be worth a lot of ISK.

SoE have a long history of being involved with Rogue Drones, and dodgy things. So perfectly reasonable for them to be making use of Drone Chips somehow....

Uh, so you are saying that you should shoot sisters ships and give the SOE the loot from sisters ships and get given BPC's....
Or are you suggesting missions against the SOE what drop BPC's?

What exactly is wrong with the logic of 'SOE take a Rogue Drone control chip, and in return give you this ship BPC that just happens to have bonuses to drone control.... by pure co-incidence, they totally aren't using Rogue drone technology to help them with the ships at all......'