That Word gives me cancer!

I read your Blog, its a nice read and you do have some good ideas but until 2015/16 i dont see any chance that CCP will do something, its kinda silly...

Bridges (structure, POS anchored - not covert/titan) are strategic assets that require sov, maintenance (refueling), can be incapped and are strategic assets. Snapping bridges is an objective and it leads to fights, making their use limited wouldn't really be a great idea. If the attackers have knowledge as to where bridge POSes are, locking down a gate between two or simply camping the bridge itself after defanging the POS are viable and useful 'guerilla' tactics.

In terms of the game:
It would make coordinating movements difficult. Do you really want FC's and players having to micro-manage their PPP at a given time? There's a reason fleet doctrines exist; now you want to extend doctrine to include a minimum PPP maintained by capital alts at all times.

It makes null sov even more expensive in that "everyone" would maintain multiple alts with full PPPs. The increased revenue would be good for CCP, but it would price the small guy out even more.

Mobility is a force multiplier. PPP would limit mobility, including, potentially, the ability for defenders to maintain an effective defense. From a "Grr Goons" perspective (i.e. politics, propaganda, tinfoil) this looks like an attempt to make it easier for quantity to overwhelm quantity (i.e. masses of PPP cap alts used to defeat highly organized, smaller, fleets trained in mobility.) The PPP cap alt fleets strike multiple targets that are far apart, thus forcing the smaller, PPP limited defensive fleet to prioritize which targets they can defend. The PPP limited fleet, even if it's ready and willing to fight, is "guaranteed" to lose some systems for a lack of PPP.

PPP would potentially limit the duration of wars and/or lead to more draws. If both sides engage in a mobile conflict, when both sides become low on PPP (i.e. managing who has enough PPP to get a task done becomes impractical,) then the war will stop.

An Easier solution may just be to have cyno's destabilize after 'x' ships jump/bridge to them or 'x' mass moves to them.

If you only take care of cynos or bridging you will change nothing. The big power blocks will simply stash subcaps and capital fleets in their territory and will order their pilots to clone jump or pod kill themself.

The only solution must involve all types of teleportation effects or will fail from the beginning.

In addition it needs of course changes to 0.0 industry so corporations and alliances can actualy live out of their territory. I would also add some more access points from hi/low sec to 0.0 to prevent perma camping a few hotspots.

I feel altering how much can jump to a cyno is a more sensible option then setting a limit on how much you can move in a day? Reason being, again, logistics. People plan moving ops, and a proposal as outlined by Marlona really screws the smaller groups.


The action of setting up various 'stashes' alone is an improvement over the status quo of 'everything in one station, light the beacons!'



There are enough access points. They just require a few extra jumps so are avoided for inconvenience.

Smaller groups like Suddenly Spaceships are less affected than multi region wide spanning mega coalitions but there is no solution that doesn't come with some pain for everyone playing this game.

It will take more careful planning for your holyday vacations in Syndicate (example) but it also opens up ways to get great fights and conflicts with much more regionalised powers without the influence of a power block living in that area.

due to many factors the primary one being force disposition and availability of both human and material assets - attacking is 3x more costly and resource intensive than defending - thus force recovery and sustainability becomes an inherently high priority for any attacking force.

attacking forces must endure defenders long enough to break them - faster ships can't do this it's not feasible, and heavier ships need to be first moved (hence the importance of jump freighters and carriers) attacking is and always will be an uphill battle if you can't fight something more powerful than you you can't attack. (relativity is very important - you know and have demonstrated this but in a context too limited for your intention)

on the flip side: if an attacking force is too concentrated the defending force must avoid them and strike else where to draw off pressure - if they can't do this they must withdraw in their entirety or are indiscriminately destroyed.

the cynosural concept is there primarily to balance attackers, to lower the barrier of entry when making the 'do we commit' choice.
the jump bridge system and cyno both are there to benefit defenders for the same reason with a different intention "can we get out of the way to recover later?"

defenders have higher stockpiles than attackers as covered
both teams have the same access to supply chain logistics, but the local force can produce more without them.

'need to be moved applies regardless of method - yes it makes it less pronounced but you still need more freighter trips to move 700 battleships than 700 interceptors - the idea is that 'moving them without a cyno chain goes from 2 hours to 2 days'

'if the defenders attack somewhere else the attackers split or forfeit the original objective - there are many reasons, you lose the system they attacked to break a staging system of theirs, or fortify/evacuate one further back - the movement is to alleviate pressure rather then stand and be crushed by a force you cannot match directly.

yes that's the point: cynos aren't usually but can be, and are meant to reduce the power balance scale bewteen offense and defense. - if i need them/can use them i have them - the bulk of my statement is not 'when i'm fighting' but 'before i'm fighting' - 'i am about to be attacked do i stay or not?' - when you're bubbled you cannot leave the field by any immediate means so i don't understand your reasoning by factoring this in here.

no they don't and yes they do - defenders usually have local resources in individual assets - my comment was in regards to these not strictly 'alliance funded assets' but 'all assets this team has' a field force has what it deploys with, a defending local force has what it's built up over a longer time span.

The issue is that currently, there is no "breaking a staging system" because that takes days to actually do meaningful damages to SOV. They can drop on you and stop you from doing anything in less than 10 minutes. Your SBUs will be long dead before you can online them, no damage has been done, but the systems you were defending still need to be defended and will still fall.

What about this:
Give caps a jump speed. Right now caps are using something like FLT in Battlestar Galactica but why not let them travel Star Wars style.

A Carrier can jump 14.625ly (All V) right now, give it a jump speed of 0.02ly/s at start and let it slow down after every ly.
E.g:
Travel time for 14.625ly would be 12.18mins with constant 0.02ly/s

Add a cooldown function which slows down the jump speed after every ly and regenerate over time, so if you want to travel 60ly at once your jump speed is 0.00002ly/s something at the end. Same for jump bridges and Titan bridges. Jump Freighter usage can be adjusted with a high jump speed, low cooldown and high regeneration.
Apply the cooldown and regeneration to the pod so you can't just change the Carrier at a midpoint and have full jump speed after.

The advantages would be big, easy adjustable system, you can give Caps and SuperCaps different jump speeds and different cooldowns. Titan bridges won't be instant anymore as the Subcaps (again the pods in the Subcaps get the jump speed cooldown and regeneration) would travel with the jump speed of the Titan.

So short range jumps would still be rather fast but not instant and really long range travel would be a pain in the ass. Dealing with disconnects are easy too, lets say you jump 14.625ly and you are disconnecting at 5ly you will drop into the closest system en route at a random spot. You can even discuss a timer so the jumping ship won't disappear instantly.

First and foremost, I'm sure the reason CCP is scared to change this is because the Cyno jump/bridge mechanic is a pivotal role in battle escalation. Without having caps able to jump to a cyno BR5 and 6VDT wouldn't be possible. And as we all know, these type of battles are what EVE Online's reputation is built around.

You are partly right and party wrong about this. An alliance setup well in terms if defensive and offensive can still fight that hard. With the PPP the ships are then bound at this location or close to that due to the jump. They still can use gates to slowboat to somewhere else. Regarding BR5, the battle lasted for 21h. Enough for any subcap and cap to actually slowboat there from almost everswhere. In 21h you also gain 10,5 PPP, letting you still jump a bit (or keeping it for extraction).

If an alliance or caolition doesnt have a fleet at their borders then they will pay the price.
They will just need enough power to hold up the enemy untill reeinforcements arrive - either way gatetravel or jumping.
Now you have to decide is it important because you wont hold any longer? Jump.
Can the fleet hold up long enough? Slowboat.
Adds a new layer of tactical and strategical decisionmaking to the game.

You are partly right and party wrong about this. An alliance setup well in terms if defensive and offensive can still fight that hard. With the PPP the ships are then bound at this location or close to that due to the jump. They still can use gates to slowboat to somewhere else. Regarding BR5, the battle lasted for 21h. Enough for any subcap and cap to actually slowboat there from almost everswhere. In 21h you also gain 10,5 PPP, letting you still jump a bit (or keeping it for extraction).

If an alliance or caolition doesnt have a fleet at their borders then they will pay the price.
They will just need enough power to hold up the enemy untill reeinforcements arrive - either way gatetravel or jumping.
Now you have to decide is it important because you wont hold any longer? Jump.
Can the fleet hold up long enough? Slowboat.
Adds a new layer of tactical and strategical decisionmaking to the game.

you need to make them harder to trigger

the PPP in additional ships to afford to

Issues here are on human resources - having a fleet there doesn't mean there are people to use it,

by doing this strategic moves are still reasonably easy and stress free - tactical ones much less so which was your aim no? try anchoring one of these things with an active hostile fleet running it down - if you can you deserve the allied hot drop that'll follow.

Oh, i wanted to add one more thing.
The amount of time is mostly arbitrary. 2 hours, 24 hours... It just needs to be significant enough to prevent abuse.

The problem is, when you make stuff "harder" on resources you actually make it worse for small groups not for big entitiies.
Goons etc. wont have any issue with bigger "costs" because they can afford it.

No, the PPP's are not linked to ships, but to characters. As I said you have the choice of jumping with your ship/clone or slowboating. When your PPP pool is depleted you have to pod yourself or slowboat.

Thats where tactics and strategics come into play. Manage your fleet smart and actually do not claim more teritorry than you can actually defend with your fleet(s).
At the moment a lot of sov is held but deserted. Held just for prestige. If you cant defend it with the changes other groups will take the chance and kick your butt to get a piece of the cake themself.

Then you simply drop the cyno 2 jumps out. Congratz. You've won nothing. People can still jump instantly where they want to -1, -2 jumps and slowboat 1 or 2 gates.

Big battles are cool and stuff but we reached a limit in hardware and serverload. Unless you enjoy 21hr of slow pewpew. I for my part dont. The current system actually supports and promotes the building of powerblocks because mass and number counts. You can be as smart as possible. The current solution to any thread ist "blobb". blobb from everywhere if neccissary. The only possibility to "counter" it is - "blob m0ar"

I recently outlined an idea on changing the way we do teleportation in the game. In a way, power projection. The details can be found in my blog, Reversal of Fortune.

Cancers of EVE Online: Teleportation

While it is a long read, I feel it is important to take in the scope of everything that is involved. Please try not to be hung up on one aspect of it and really think about the big picture and how your operations, your enemies and the game in general would change with this change.

Apologies if the blog format wreaks of noob mistakes, it is my first attempt at blogging and any feedback on improving the experience is always welcome via the site and or evemail.

Oh, i wanted to add one more thing.

In regards to Pod Express (changing med clone location and self destructing pod).

Instead of tying that into the PPP, why not just put a delay on changing your med clone location. Realistically how can you have a clone ready and made instantly in the new station? How fast does one really need to have their med clone relocated?

The amount of time is mostly arbitrary. 2 hours, 24 hours... It just needs to be significant enough to prevent abuse.

Jump Clones have a third contraint: time. It takes time before you can jump clone again.
Unless you are talking about Medical, in which case the constraint is cost to upgrade, cost of implants lost/replaced, and in some cases loss of SP.


Edit to add: something else in your article you did not mention: time to set up the bridge. Certainly a Carrier can take 7 minutes, but outside of established jump bridges - which the crow, sacrilege, and battleship could avail themselves, that carrier still has to have a cyno set up at the other end.

My point is not that Carriers cannot move from point A to Point B in 7 minutes, but that getting the Cyno chain set up will take more than the 7 minutes itself (plus protecting the Cyno - waiting for local to clear etc...).

Oh, i wanted to add one more thing.

In regards to Pod Express (changing med clone location and self destructing pod).

Instead of tying that into the PPP, why not just put a delay on changing your med clone location. Realistically how can you have a clone ready and made instantly in the new station? How fast does one really need to have their med clone relocated?

The amount of time is mostly arbitrary. 2 hours, 24 hours... It just needs to be significant enough to prevent abuse.

I hate to punch holes into your argument but i think your time comparison however interesting is comparing apples to oranges. The big difference between an crow and a Thanatos is about 1.2billion isk for that a Thanatos deserves I think a bit of an edge on force projection. Titan bridging however is a completely different situation and is still very unbalanced.

Titans:

-Almost never expose themselves while bridging (Titans are safe and rarely deployed on the field)
-Move mass amount of ships long distance for minimal isk.
-Make null sec logistics a joke (Titan bridging freighters)

The solution with 90% of the force projection problems in eve revolve around the titan and you could resolve this by requiring ships to dock and be moved with the titan (and carriers for that matter) instead of jumping through jump portals. You could also tie cost of jumping to the total mass of the ship jumping and all its cargo (including other ships). This would effect force projection by:

-Exposing titans every time they deploy ships to an engagement
-Increase the cost of moving mass ships long distances
-Limit the m3 of ships moved on a particular run (150 frigs might be able to dock with titan but only 20 battleships)
-Forcing logistics by titan to be more expensive (though not prohibitively so)

Why should the giant siege weapon arrive before the scout? While cost is something to consider, it should not be one of the primary balancing factors.

It's not like the cyno network is vulnerable from the time it is setup till the time you need it. You just log them off keeping the network 100% safe until you need it.

Why should the giant siege weapon arrive before the scout? While cost is something to consider, it should not be one of the primary balancing factors.

(text limit had to cut the quote points but i tried to address all of them in order)
other comments regarding cyno chains are also touched upon here

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The problem with a spool up timer on cyno's is the moment they are lit, all one needs to do is look for the ship next to it (same distance) at zero speed. Then you just have your fleet volley it off the field. This can happen in just a few seconds. So the spool up timer would need to only have a delay of a couple seconds, which makes means adding the couple second delay is kind of pointless against medium to large sized fleets. Even if the cyno is not killed and you add a 5-10 minute delay on what comes in, it will not have any real effect on power projection in the grand scheme of things.

You are deployed to the far side of the game. A friendly titan is tackled back home or it is invaded. Everyone changes their medical clone back home and suicide pods there. All without burning any PPP making the deployment so far away less strategic.

With the death clone tied in, they can still pod back, but everyone hopping into capitals and or immediately bridge on the enemy. It bring some balance into the equation. That make sense?

I dont think you understood his post. He is proposing a delay on changing your med clone location, so in your scenario:

You are deployed to the far side of the game. A friendly titan is tackled back home or it is invaded. Everyone changes their medical clone back home. Since they were unprepared they need to wait 3 hours for the technicians in their home station to ready a clone (maybe longer if several clones are set to the same station all at once). After the preparation delay they suicide pod home to salvage the wreckage of the titan they were too late to save

I recently outlined an idea on changing the way we do teleportation in the game. In a way, power projection. The details can be found in my blog, Reversal of Fortune.

Cancers of EVE Online: Teleportation

While it is a long read, I feel it is important to take in the scope of everything that is involved. Please try not to be hung up on one aspect of it and really think about the big picture and how your operations, your enemies and the game in general would change with this change.

Apologies if the blog format wreaks of noob mistakes, it is my first attempt at blogging and any feedback on improving the experience is always welcome via the site and or evemail.

A very interesting read Marlona and I think it is a possible solution; I do not like the idea of static POS mods taxing the PPP though. Given the inherent cost of setting up the network and the time delay on owning the system, seems like an unnecessary cost. Intrigued by the other ideas though.

Svo.

Oh, i wanted to add one more thing.

In regards to Pod Express (changing med clone location and self destructing pod).

Instead of tying that into the PPP, why not just put a delay on changing your med clone location. Realistically how can you have a clone ready and made instantly in the new station? How fast does one really need to have their med clone relocated?

The amount of time is mostly arbitrary. 2 hours, 24 hours... It just needs to be significant enough to prevent abuse.

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I see your point. Still I'd suggest a spoolup timerm, which is much more versatile. Since you can manage it easier for every shiptype. I dont see why a JF should wait 30mins for the cyno to jump. Since we are talking about powerprojection militaryships are what we want to balance.

Additional:
Structures are not as versatile. A Cynoship you can tank if needed. Lets say you are up against a fleet of a Laserfitted AHACs. You might want to push up the em and thermal resists. With structures you just get flat resists. Well that might help to deny a escalation you say but people want escalations dont they? Plus, the ship dropping the cyno is off the battle so -1 for the dropping fleet. Unless you give it like 2000m3, so a Industrial(something along these lines) is needed to drop the structure.

Maybe even a "callout" to the local withing the region the cyno is charging like : "Mass detectors pick up a increasing force of gravity in this region[maybe insert region here]."

But even your changes to change a bit in the small scale it actually doesnt fix the problem of whole alliancefleets being everywhere within minutes.

As I said I see your point, but I am very sure it doesn't adresses the culprit, the root of all evil, concerning power projection.
With your changes you might have the chance to retreat if a blobb is imminent but you certainly doesn't have the ability to successfully attack big entities and hurt them. Most of us here want smaller groups to be able to stich and hurt big entities if they don't plan properly.

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I like the idea of Cynosural Fields as deployable objects with a spool-up (on-lining) timer. All the mechanics are already there. CCP would only need to swap a few digits in the database.

The bigger problem would be how to deal with the fuel (liquid ozone) usage. Should it simply sit there running indefinitely until it's decay timer has expired with no fuel usage? Should it be recoverable? Should it have a fuel bay?

Perhaps there could be different meta versions that can be jumped to from various ranges distances. They should have higher levels of Cynosural Field Theory required and larger volumes. Perhaps increased fuel usage.

They most definitely should not have reinforcement timers. I also think such a deployable should be allowed to anchor on-grid with other structures.

Currently the Cynosural Inhibitor is nearly useless because it has a significant onlining timer, whereas cynos do not.

Two easy solutions that could fix power projection:

1. A time delay linear proportional to LY jumped (e.g. 1LY = 10s) to jump again.

2. Caps jump in at zero capacitor.

You seem to miss the bigger picture my friend and mistake the title powerprojection only with assault and defense as a action. There is much more behind that. Its also about the possibility of moving the whole fleet from one side of the universe to where it is needed within minutes.

Let us take a working example from the current nullsec. CFC holds about 2/3 of the Nullsec sovs.

Lets pretend they are engaged at the northern theatre against N3 with 85% of their fleet positioned in or close to the borderregion to N3. Another group, attacks their southern sov. So for the rest of the CFC territory are 15% of force left for defence.

So, with your structures they anchor them in their space and can jump through their space relatively fast. It is slower (approx 20mins slower due to anchortime) than currently - yes- but it is still very very very safe and quick compared to gate travel. You've gained nothing, their power projection is just initially a tad slower.
Are you with me on that?

In conclusion: Set up your jumpchain, wait 20minutes and you can jump like before without having to take a single gate. Your overall traveltime is (Currenttime + Anchortime(20minutes)).


With PPP's they can jump once but have to cross the remaining route either through highsec or (with SCaps) have to go around through their own territory - BY GATE. Which is much more vulnerable to camps and attrition than jumping - are you with me?

In conclusion: The bigger the territory you hold the more PPP you need to cross it by jumping. Since PPPs are finite you need more pilots dedicated to theaters since you simply can not be everywhere.
A small alliance holding a few systems might just need 8PPP for a jump from one border to another so they can jump 4 times until their pool is depleted. A big alliance can maybe jump 1/4th of their territory and has to use gate travel then.
The more "surface" (read :more borders) you have the more pilots you need. At first its growing linear and rises exponentially at a point where a (single max jump+gatetraveltime) isnt an option to defend your space. Its like the girth of a sphere at that point.

- most fighting ends within half an hour - most fleet fights inside 2

thing is they have a force on both fronts anyway, all alliances do either their own or one of their allies, by increasing the time delay to get from one side to another, by allowing those chains to be more easily cut you increase the chance that the standing force will be obliterated first

Thats our gripe!

you overlook the fact that the fewer pilots i have the fewer people i can call upon for a task

eve's environment supports moving that kind of distance in that time

you are trying to artificially crush the playing field simply to suit your own preference.

As already stated, I for my part can't support your opinion here.
However I want to comment on two statements of yours for last


Right, if you hold space overproportional to the amount of pilots you might get trouble, true. Which is a good thing.
As far as I dare to predict it will lead to more skirmishes in borderregions and multi-front wars if you overexpand.


It does support it, yes but only from on the introduction of Scaps and Bridges - and not from the beginning of EVE 10yrs ago.
Its no shame to talk about a flawed feature and how to fix it. That the feature shows its flaws just now, when the number of Scaps and Titans is high (too high?) is a given fact. CCP might not have thought about the consequences or didnt think that so many Scaps/Titans can coexist at the introduction of Bridges. Who could anyways? Titans were introduced in 2005 with RMR. Its never a shame to admit one's fault and I can clearly understand CCP with having made this fault.


Objection! That's an assumption you can't support - with any evidence in the first place.
I simply state my personal point of view and my persional opinion on how I feel strategic and tactical movement should be. If you dont get along with my opinion feel free to ignore it. I however don't like the fact you are trying to discredit me of "trying to break the game".
Move along and farewell, I have no further interest in a discussion with you.

I think a very simple solution could be :
you can't jump to a cyno until it is half cycle.

- This makes killing it before it can be used actually a viable option
- this promotes using protection if you need the cyno to stay alive and thus a possible brawl
- it reduces mobility significantly

edit:

Lets make 2 types of cyno:

Travel cyno: the one we know but you can't jump to it until it is half cycle.

Combat cyno:
Instant jump possible as soon as cyno is up.
you only can jump to it from within 1-2 ly
cyno ship speed is reduced but not zero. AB/MWD doesn't work

i love the idea, but i think covop are ok tho. Leave them alone, i think same goeas for jump brige and totan portal, aaand the JF and rurqual.

but carriers, Dreds and super yeash ... wold be nice to see that insta galaxy travel nerfed

Objection! That's an assumption you can't support - with any evidence in the first place.
I simply state my personal point of view and my persional opinion on how I feel strategic and tactical movement should be.

But it's fine for you to say that the rest of EVE is doing it wrong and make assumptions about our motives, right?

While reading up on this issue I'm gravitating towards the idea that the fact that the problem with teleportation isn't so much the fact that it is so powerful, but the fact that it lacks counterplay. If the capital fleet wants to move 5 midpoints away there is no feasible way to stop them. The only option you kind of have is trying to bubble them at their midpoints and that required you to know who is maybe hotdropping you, where are they coming from and which midpoints they plan on using and won't hold you for long.

So instead of blanket limitation to any movement there should be a way hinder your enemy's movement by doing something actively. I think someone proposed that if you jump with aggression you would get timer that stops you from making additional jumps. This would keep unopposed movement working as it does now, but would allow someone wanting to hinder capital movement to aggress the capitals to slow them down. The target could then either jump anyway and get stuck in their next system for a while or annihilate the opposition trying to slow them down, wait the aggression timer and jump.

You can't aggress capitals in a pos shield and a jump route has many alternative routes to avoid enemies who would aggress them. So they can easily avoid this kind of counter play and not be slowed down.

I also fear that the change you proposed is simply not feasible due to it's drastic effect on logistics and trade everywhere outside high-sec.

I have mentioned many times that the way logistics, trade and industry would still need a health dose of an overhaul. Everything is connected of course.

With real distance put between places, there is now room for justification and reason to do these things. Right now there is no reason to buff industry at the edge of null when players will still use places in low and high sec to do it. After all, it is only a few minutes away. Just imagine how over the top you would have to buff industry in that same edge of null to be 'better' than high sec if the difference is still just a couple minutes? It would be insane.

your PPP idea was terrible when I saw it on reddit, and it's still terrible now.

if teleportation is such a cancer, then remove it from the game and make all ships use gates. however that won't happen so i doubt teleportation is quite the cancer you claim it to be. *shrug*

Yes, teleportation is a plague on this game, but I dont think outright removing it is the answer. Clearly there has to be an alternative

This in not a game where we are all bound by a single character and a single account. The richer the corp or alliance, the larger the access to multiple accounts, multiple training toons with the new PLEX system, and even the ability to purchase high SP toons from the market.

Since some will have access to multiple pilots capable of flying capitals, they will bypass the "pool" by switching toons, and parking strategic toons in far off locations, making richer players able to control more space. This is no different from having player "jails" for a crime; if a player had 6 characters they can keep just playing and wait out timers on other accounts.

I have mentioned many times that the way logistics, trade and industry would still need a health dose of an overhaul. Everything is connected of course.

With real distance put between places, there is now room for justification and reason to do these things. Right now there is no reason to buff industry at the edge of null when players will still use places in low and high sec to do it. After all, it is only a few minutes away. Just imagine how over the top you would have to buff industry in that same edge of null to be 'better' than high sec if the difference is still just a couple minutes? It would be insane.

So you didn't like my idea with the spool up time on jump drives that increases with distance to be jumped and increases subsequent jumps based on how far you've traveled already? So if you jump to the system next door it takes 1 sec to spool up jump drive, but if you jump 10 ly it takes 10-20 sec. And after you make that jump, your next jump spool up timer will be increased by 2-3 times. Also, jump clones are fine the way they work right now and med clone location updates would take a few hours to take effect.

This would do a few things.
It would limit distance without having an arbitrary brickwall cap on movement.
It would expose capitals much more while engaging.
Jumping caps into a fight would be a much greater dedication since extration would be harder.
Taking control of systems in close proximity to a battle location may become strategically significant.

The amount of the constraints could/would be adjustable to find a sweet spot.

Is this not what you're PPP is trying to accomplish? Are there any strong points this fails to live up to?

even the mildly organized groups can get anywhere with almost anything very, very quickly. Most certainly long before any system or POS suffers any real harm. It takes days to invade and conquer a system. Crossing the map with capital ships GÇô minutes.

Whatever you or anyone else comes up with, you have to keep that in mind. Can someone from the other side of the map show up in full force, affect the outcome of a timer/invasion and zip back home before their territory was in any danger?

Marlona, what you have to realize is that no matter how much time you spent thinking about the system or developing it, that doesnt make it less arbitrary.

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so youre saying you think it's ok to increase cap ship travel time by 110,000% because thats what youre suggesting.

Also, you never did address the issue that the PPP affects large and small groups equally its still really moronic that it takes the same amount of logistics preparation to move 249 ships as it does to move 1, and the PPP does nothing to change that.

What I am suggesting is capital movement becomes strategic instead of the fastest way to travel.

Small groups influence small amounts of space. So they are not having to zip across the map ever day to maintain control of vast amounts of space a larger group would. Almost all large forces base from one system. So the smaller group would not be affected nearly as much as the larger group. The PPP does in fact change that.

An admirable suggestion, however I would suggest that there are a few stopping points between 7 minutes and 7747 minutes that could be visited.

You're focusing on defense entirely too much. In an offensive setting, a small group may need far more mobility than this to run an effective hit and run campaign. Small groups should be able to be more mobile in offense and defense alike.

I propose cutting the jump range of supercarriers to 3.5 LY, and making cynos have a mass limit and mass regeneration per second. So a cyno would have 2.1 billion kg of mass to start off with and would regenerate 20 million kg per second

The lore surrounding this would be that a large mass object landing at a cyno destabilizes it and makes it more difficult for other ships to lock onto the cyno. Force recons are better at compensating for this effect and thus are able to pass more mass through in a shorter time.

Then after every jump I would require a ship to have a wait time until it can jump again (allowing for the ship's jump drive to cool down). Something like:
DistanceJumped / MaxJumpRange * 15 = MinutesUntilNextJump

This would simultaneously fix several problems in new eden

1. provide the force recons with a useful bonus to cynos (+200% mass regeneration)
2. scale cap ship logistics with the size of the fleet (moving more ships either requires more time or more cyno alts)
3. Limit the ease of force projection
4. make cyno travel of large groups far more disrupt-able and obvious.

Now of course this would only make travel more annoying but not really do much else unless you were able to take sov in a much shorter time frame. Im thinking something like giving the attackers the ability to sync the reinforce timers of certain systems, so the attackers buy special syncing SBUs, and they force the I-Hubs in those systems to have the same reinforce timers. You would still have to RF them both, but they would all come out of RF at the same time.

This would mean that you could actually force your opponent to split his resources or risk losing one of the systems to a "drive by" Again with the new cap ships not able to bounce around as much, this would really force defending alliances to think about where they deployed their forces.