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Oblivion King
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.02.22 02:29:00 -
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Istyn wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote: On a different note: Marmite collective, using the permadec I pay just held a class in Nonni to renters that they should consider finding another landlord. However - considering their corp name - they should be accepted to GSF proper, due to perfect fit
:\ Please don't try to claim some sort of credit/thump your chest over kills you had nothing to do with.
Paying for kills means he had nothing to do with them or funding the war? ah I see, also where does he claim kills in that post?
a mercenary a ganker and you're being smug,really now Istyn.. |

Oblivion King
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.02.22 02:35:00 -
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Gevlon have you considered allying with other entities to take down RvB their time is over anyway I hope this war rages forever.
RvB are simply pets because instead of contesting for most POCOs you took the easy way out (failing to provide content for your members) and struck a deal with goons avoiding some nice pew and what could have been a thorn in the back of a large alliance. |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2749
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Posted - 2014.02.22 02:44:00 -
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Oblivion King wrote:there's more GOONs and CFC in this thread than any other, 17 pages in 2 days? all from Goons? i'm impressed. it should be a complete non-shocker that an alliance founded on a forum should find forum posting in their regular schedule
Oblivion King wrote:RvB are simply pets because instead of contesting for most POCOs you took the easy way out (failing to provide content for your members) and struck a deal with goons avoiding some nice pew and what could have been a thorn in the back of a large alliance. the literal opposite of this is true, RvB have been smacking marmite around all over the place, and fleets where marmite / lemmings run away from the POCOs they spend hours reinforcing have been getting hit pretty hard by RvB as well
plenty of ~~content~~ even though im loathe to encourage you using the latest buzzword in an incorrect context "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2749
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Posted - 2014.02.22 02:46:00 -
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on reflection its possible the hidden message in your ramble, is that RvB wont be contesting POCOs because marmite/lemmings are unable to do so
this would be an astute observation, but you should try to put the clever observations front and centre in the future and maybe cut out the grrrrGOONs and PETS PETS nonsense "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2749
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Posted - 2014.02.22 02:49:00 -
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Oh yes, breaking news!
Lemmings spent an hour the other day reinforcing another POCO.
In what I would hope came as no surprise to the thread, no-one showed up to stop us saving it.
OP success, good guys win again. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2749
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Posted - 2014.02.22 02:55:00 -
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Whoop
Me again.
I have recently learned, that if you want to make a point, that you need a graph. It's not enough for me to just say "But we saved every POCO you are the worst at doing your job", I need to show it in pictures.
Hence I made a pie chart of Jan/Feb 2014 charting our POCO save OPs.
http://i.imgur.com/D7Szn3F.png "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

Istyn
Freight Club The Marmite Collective
299
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Posted - 2014.02.22 03:10:00 -
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Weaselior wrote: did you not understand the bargain you struck
he supplied isk, now he's going to be taking credit for every single kill you make
enjoy!
mynnna wrote: He's claimed credit for each and every kill scored against us since he started paying you.
e: Man look at that, beaten three times.
We have no involvement in Marmite alliance/leadership decisions, etc., just a mutually beneficial arrangement.
Oblivion King wrote:
Paying for kills means he had nothing to do with them or funding the war? ah I see, also where does he claim kills in that post?
a mercenary a ganker and you're being smug,really now Istyn..
What?
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Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
155
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Posted - 2014.02.22 03:32:00 -
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Istyn wrote:Oblivion King wrote:
Paying for kills means he had nothing to do with them or funding the war? ah I see, also where does he claim kills in that post?
a mercenary a ganker and you're being smug,really now Istyn..
What?
I believe what you are experiencing here is summed up nicely in the old adage, "Lay down with dogsgoblins, and you wake up with fleasautists."
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Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
155
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Posted - 2014.02.22 03:34:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Whoop Me again. I have recently learned, that if you want to make a point, that you need a graph. It's not enough for me to just say "But we saved every POCO you are the worst at doing your job", I need to show it in pictures. Hence I made a pie chart of Jan/Feb 2014 charting our POCO save OPs. http://i.imgur.com/D7Szn3F.png
Since we're getting graphical, I would like to represent the affect Mynnna's posts have on Goblin's arguments. |

Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
168
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Posted - 2014.02.22 03:39:00 -
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Istyn wrote: Please don't try to claim some sort of credit/thump your chest over kills you had nothing to do with.
Let's open the Marmite war history page and look up Northern Associates, which is another renter alliance like PBLRD. There was a war with them between 2013/09/27 and 2014/02/04 Then there is an ongoing war from 2014/02/13. What is between them? A week when you couldn't shoot Northern Associates in highsec. Now let's check PBLRD and you see an ongoing, uninterrupted war since I started my Merc contract with Marmite 6 weeks ago. If these JFs were in Northern Associates, you'd have 1/6 chance to just watch them float away. Considering the value of the kills, the probability increase of them and the war costs, I know there is exactly one Goon in this thread who understands why am I happy.
On a different note: did you people notice that in the thread "RvB is a Goon scam" 90% of the posts are coming from Goons (and a certain Spacemonkey). This isn't the best way to eliminate the suspicion. |
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Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
155
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Posted - 2014.02.22 04:05:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Istyn wrote: Please don't try to claim some sort of credit/thump your chest over kills you had nothing to do with.
Let's open the Marmite war history page and look up Northern Associates, which is another renter alliance like PBLRD. There was a war with them between 2013/09/27 and 2014/02/04 Then there is an ongoing war from 2014/02/13. What is between them? A week when you couldn't shoot Northern Associates in highsec. Now let's check PBLRD and you see an ongoing, uninterrupted war since I started my Merc contract with Marmite 6 weeks ago. If these JFs were in Northern Associates, you'd have 1/6 chance to just watch them float away. Considering the value of the kills, the probability increase of them and the war costs, I know there is exactly one Goon in this thread who understands why am I happy. On a different note: did you people notice that in the thread "RvB is a Goon scam" 90% of the posts are coming from Goons (and a certain Spacemonkey). This isn't the best way to eliminate the suspicion.
Translation: "Yout DON'T talk back to -A- Gevlon, pet!"
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Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
155
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Posted - 2014.02.22 04:16:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote: Let's open the Marmite war history page and look up Northern Associates, which is another renter alliance like PBLRD. There was a war with them between 2013/09/27 and 2014/02/04 Then there is an ongoing war from 2014/02/13. What is between them? A week when you couldn't shoot Northern Associates in highsec.
Let's drill down into this.
Northern Associates Losses By Month: 08-13 285.54b 09-13 329.03b 10-13 258.61b 11-13 268.84b 12-13 203.70b 01-14 236.31b 02-14 232.09b
According to this, their two highest months of losses happened BEFORE the initial war dec. And while the month of February appears lower than average, it's only three quarters over. If you extrapolate from the current trend it should end somewhere around 309.45b in damages. Which would make it, despite the loss of a weeks worth of war decs, the second most costly month in the period, second only to the month preceding the war dec.
The statistics are clear. If you want your corps loss rates to decrease, have goblin pay someone to attack you.
edit: source https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99000163/history/ |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4682
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Posted - 2014.02.22 04:58:00 -
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Clearly the greatest scam of EVE Online is Marmite getting money from Gevlon & delivering nothing. Good work Marmites. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |

Powers Sa
959
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Posted - 2014.02.22 06:00:00 -
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Istyn wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote: On a different note: Marmite collective, using the permadec I pay just held a class in Nonni to renters that they should consider finding another landlord. However - considering their corp name - they should be accepted to GSF proper, due to perfect fit
:\ Please don't try to claim some sort of credit/thump your chest over kills you had nothing to do with. For real. I've posted this before, but marmite can't take credit for anything the Freight Club guys do. They have been funding their own wardecs off of dead JFs for the longest time.
Freight Club is just about the only highsec crew that I actually respect next to RVB. lol |

Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
103
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Posted - 2014.02.22 06:13:00 -
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Istyn wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote: On a different note: Marmite collective, using the permadec I pay just held a class in Nonni to renters that they should consider finding another landlord. However - considering their corp name - they should be accepted to GSF proper, due to perfect fit
:\ Please don't try to claim some sort of credit/thump your chest over kills you had nothing to do with.
In case you missed it:
Gevlon wrote: So yes, I can take ALL the credit.
...
I am solely responsible for turning these players against CFC and focusing their damage on CFC.
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Helfeln Meathead
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2014.02.22 06:54:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote: On a different note: did you people notice that in the thread "RvB is a Goon scam" 90% of the posts are coming from Goons (and a certain Spacemonkey). This isn't the best way to eliminate the suspicion.
Ummm... did you just forget which thread you were posting in? |

Northern Misfit
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
87
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Posted - 2014.02.22 06:58:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Whoop Me again. I have recently learned, that if you want to make a point, that you need a graph. It's not enough for me to just say "But we saved every POCO you are the worst at doing your job", I need to show it in pictures. Hence I made a pie chart of Jan/Feb 2014 charting our POCO save OPs. http://i.imgur.com/D7Szn3F.png
Finally pie chart! The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits ~Albert Einstein
-á-á-á |

Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
18
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Posted - 2014.02.22 07:42:00 -
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Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Samahiel Sotken wrote: Wait, Gevlon's autism support group has 366 members? Jesus, they're like five times the size of MINILUV, and we still do ten times the damage.
This is an important point Goblin forgets. On paper we have tens of thousands of pilots, but only about 70 of them care about Highsec. So he might think he's leading the 300 against Xerxes horde, but he's really getting beat down by a few dozen guys on vacation from the real wars.
Yep, or if you compare them to SniggWaffe who are still larger than MiniLuv (as far as I know) yet half the size roughly than this supposed "Goon Killing alliance" you have: JANUARY Darwins Lemmings - 366 members across 36 corporations http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Darwins_Lemmingshttp://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=9713Kills - 802 ISK equivalent in kills - 68.44 Billion Losses -269 ISK equivalent in losses - 11.24 Billion Efficiency - 85.89% SniggWaffe - 230 members in SniggWaffe, 2 members in our executor corp. (35 in a Russian corp we did a test period with)* http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/WAFFLES./corporationshttp://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=9296Kills - 4,560 ISK equivalent in kills - 1.9 Trillion Losses - 1,739 ISK equivalent in losses - 67.75 Billion Efficiency - 96.65% *Black Mesa Inc were a part of Waffles during January and had the following statistics: Kills - 27 ISK in kills - 1.31 Billion Losses - 11 ISK in losses - 0.1 Billion Which accounts for a minuscule amount of the damages in both kills and losses for the month. They left Waffles having not garnered any kills in February. FEBRUARYDarwins LemmingsKills - 2,141 ISK equivalent in kills - 104.1 Billion Losses - 642 ISK equivalent in losses - 25.92 Billion Efficiency - 80.07% SniggWaffeKills - 4,018 ISK equivalent - 175.58 Billion Losses - 1,328 ISK equivalent in losses - 50.10 Billion Efficiency - 77.80% SniggWaffe, a corp with 200 fewer pilots, can deal over twice as many kills at minimum (February saw our return to lowsec after the south east finished up) than Gevlon's attempt at an alliance to deal damage to Goons. Waffles also finance themselves individually and don't have an ISK reserve that is close to what Gevlon claims to be. Basically a training corp for a "Goon pet" in Pandemic Legion can do more than Gevlon's entire alliance with Marmite Collective doing all the heavy work. It's quite sad really, and these numbers are hard to lie about.
Your null sec though right? you go hunting in low sec, fight null sec scraps and have the bat phone to PL supers that makes squashing any low sec gang with its tail up a trivial task. I dont follow how yr stats are relevant. Not trying to diss you btw, I am new to eve. I do think though yr comparing apples to oranges. -á"quote=Erotica 1 "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |

Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
18
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Posted - 2014.02.22 07:46:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Samahiel Sotken wrote:Did you know that Poitot is the only named system in Syndicate?
No I did not know that. Is there anything else I should know about Poitot? Isn't that the system that is known for being on an in-game postcard? Speaking of which, after Gevlon quits Eve, we should all get a "blogpost by Gevlon" in-game crumpled up piece of paper for Christmas that says something like "this paper contains lots of gibberish and graphs, New Eden's brightest minds are hard at work trying to figure out what it means. What will this nasty surprise be...?" You don't like Gevlon do you? :P I wouldn't take being called a moron personnally btw, hes called me it at least twice since I've known him and he still helped me learn to heal on my shammy.  -á"quote=Erotica 1 "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |

enterprisePSI
262
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Posted - 2014.02.22 07:47:00 -
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First.  The tears of the many, outweigh the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psi-¬
[url]https://twitter.com/enterprise_psi[/url] |
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
18
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Posted - 2014.02.22 07:54:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Oblivion King wrote:there's more GOONs and CFC in this thread than any other, 17 pages in 2 days? all from Goons? i'm impressed. it should be a complete non-shocker that an alliance founded on a forum should find forum posting in their regular schedule Oblivion King wrote:RvB are simply pets because instead of contesting for most POCOs you took the easy way out (failing to provide content for your members) and struck a deal with goons avoiding some nice pew and what could have been a thorn in the back of a large alliance. the literal opposite of this is true, RvB have been smacking marmite around all over the place, and fleets where marmite / lemmings run away from the POCOs they spend hours reinforcing have been getting hit pretty hard by RvB as well plenty of ~~content~~ even though im loathe to encourage you using the latest buzzword in an incorrect context
Dude I enjoy yr posting, its brilliant. Why is it the same few goons posting though? why isnt this buried with 100s of folk laughing "at the madman". Why is it directors and important people only? You know someone who was FAR more paranoid then I and who saw conspiracy theories in EVERYTHING might, just might, think that you goonies were taking the gevlon threat so seriously your carefully handling it. The boys have been told to stay away and its been left to the professionals. The professional. just a thought...
Btw have I told you how I admire your posting? you made me laugh loads! brilliant! Do you have a blog I can follow? D -á"quote=Erotica 1 "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |

Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
18
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Posted - 2014.02.22 07:58:00 -
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Northern Misfit wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Whoop Me again. I have recently learned, that if you want to make a point, that you need a graph. It's not enough for me to just say "But we saved every POCO you are the worst at doing your job", I need to show it in pictures. Hence I made a pie chart of Jan/Feb 2014 charting our POCO save OPs. http://i.imgur.com/D7Szn3F.png Finally pie chart!
Yey! pie! Now wheres my mayo?
-á"quote=Erotica 1 "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |

Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
161
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Posted - 2014.02.22 08:57:00 -
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Oblivion King wrote:Gevlon have you considered allying with other entities to take down RvB their time is over anyway I hope this war rages forever.
RvB are simply pets because instead of contesting for most POCOs you took the easy way out (failing to provide content for your members) and struck a deal with goons avoiding some nice pew and what could have been a thorn in the back of a large alliance.
But the POCOs *are* providing content!
1: What do you think RvB is doing with the isk coming in from our little POCO empire? Ship replacements! This serves to generate further R vs B content. (and once again, I would like to point out that Gevlon's statement "A pet alliance without SRP, without good killboard, without ratting space?" is false on *all* points).
2: What the heck do you think this hullabaloo is but content?!?! Ganks, baits, counterganks, huge defence fleets, hunting parties... and *astounding* killmails. We just got an artilery fit 2.5 billion abbadon.
Of course, we didn't expect *Gevlon* to be the instigator of this content but hey, here we are.
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Xaerael Endiel
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
125
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Posted - 2014.02.22 09:08:00 -
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Tarojan wrote:
Why is it directors and important people only?
Because everyone is important in GSF. If you mean space-important in general, I'm not space-important, and I'm the one who's pressing Marmite on taking advantage of the mentally ill. |

Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
162
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Posted - 2014.02.22 09:49:00 -
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Wait, I'm important?! WOOHOO!!!
... I wonder how this happened? Hmmm... It must be when I almost defeated the goons by making Mynnna choke on a sandwich. Funny how with a single joke, I almost made more damage than a certain someone ever will ;) |

Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
18
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Posted - 2014.02.22 10:35:00 -
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Xaerael Endiel wrote:Tarojan wrote:
Why is it directors and important people only?
Because everyone is important in GSF. If you mean space-important in general, I'm not space-important, and I'm the one who's pressing Marmite on taking advantage of the mentally ill.
Oh sorry. was reading Grath on mitanni.com. Hes really cool. Anyway was really Khan i was addressing there cos he makes me laugh Irl. Its rare that happens. Glad you think your important though :) -á"quote=Erotica 1 "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |

Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
18
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Posted - 2014.02.22 10:39:00 -
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Grath Callidus Marus GÇó 2 days ago Eh, you still have to nut up and use them. Notice the Russians haven't ever fielded a slowcat doctrine, though they've tried chimeras they've always produced low numbers, and this is a coalition that can produce close to 1000 men when called on.
Its not often enough to field the ships, its the balls to put them out there and the knowledge of how to use them that matters, and losing them in the learning process is often enough to turn groups away from trying.
see its s*** like this. You know he knows what hes talking about. I could learn more about eve with one afternoon buying him drinks in a bar then a month here talking smack with you guys. no offense intended. -á"quote=Erotica 1 "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |

Helfeln Meathead
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2014.02.22 10:53:00 -
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Not really focussing on the War here are we http://imgur.com/IjTSZfE
Had to scroll to find the first bee kills. http://imgur.com/4uMcRoQ |

Anela Cistine
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
189
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Posted - 2014.02.22 11:07:00 -
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This whole premise is ridiculous. Newbies are the best part of EVE. If we had 8000 newbies on our team we wouldn't leave them rotting in highsec. |

Xaerael Endiel
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
125
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Posted - 2014.02.22 11:07:00 -
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We really need to talk about the 2.5b lemmings Abbadon that RvB killed last night.
Sifting through the kills of the pilot, it would seem that they never actually got a kill with that ship. And no reimbursement either, ouch. I'd hate to be in such a bad alliance that doesn't care about my losses. |
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