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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6611
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Posted - 2014.02.21 02:18:00 -
[181] - Quote
mynnna wrote:Weaselior wrote:gevlon riddle me this
before conquerable highsec pocos existed there was nothing that we could gain in highsec at an alliance level
why did we go to the three and a half year effort to create a pair of 4000 man spy alliances with nothing in highsec we needed to defend with these spy alliances This is the same inconvenient point I made back several pages ago which he brushed aside and ignored, as it destroys his entire premise. 
I'm sure he just kept mashing where the moderate comment button is on wordpress while cursing ccp as goon pets for failing to code it into eveo instead of ignoring it
Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Disadvantaged Persons Outreach Division:
"We hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
Johan March
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
105
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Posted - 2014.02.21 03:07:00 -
[182] - Quote
I think Gevlon is just really, really pissed off that Mynnna, Weaselior, et. al. have multiples of his interstellar kredit net worth. Ayn Rand comes to him in his dreams and screams at him in Russian that he is nothing more than a dirty, dirty, moocher. |
Saint Dongsmith
Dongsmith Investments and Acquisitions
2
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Posted - 2014.02.21 03:55:00 -
[183] - Quote
that is a lot of words signifying nothing op |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
164
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Posted - 2014.02.21 04:11:00 -
[184] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:gevlon riddle me this
before conquerable highsec pocos existed there was nothing that we could gain in highsec at an alliance level
You're right. There is nothing in highsec a Goon needs. So 2x Burn Jita, Nx Hulkageddon were all imagined by me. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6614
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Posted - 2014.02.21 04:17:00 -
[185] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Weaselior wrote:gevlon riddle me this
before conquerable highsec pocos existed there was nothing that we could gain in highsec at an alliance level
You're right. There is nothing in highsec a Goon needs. So 2x Burn Jita, Nx Hulkageddon were all imagined by me.
could you explain at length in graph form how each of the times we directed a firm and warm stream of urine at your face and the face of every other pubbie like you just to show we could we needed rvb to save our
uh
suicide catalysts
from the vicious wardecs that would have otherwised crippled the rain of suicide catalysts by someone whoring on them as they suicided into miners and the exact amount of isk per hour we've earned from our four years of effort
Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Disadvantaged Persons Outreach Division:
"We hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
3766
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Posted - 2014.02.21 04:19:00 -
[186] - Quote
I think I've figured out his nastiest surprise of all, which he will wait to reveal years from now...
This whole charade of ridiculous and loony blog and forum posts is done on purpose. As we speak, he is computing all of the isk that Goons could have earned ratting but didn't because they were reading and responding to his drivel.
How many billions, perhaps trillions of isk is Gevlon effectively stealing from Goons by wasting their time?
This is the greatest...
scam....
ever
Gevlon, you are a genius!
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2993
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Posted - 2014.02.21 04:26:00 -
[187] - Quote
Joke's on him, ishtars mean afk ratting.
Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
4663
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Posted - 2014.02.21 04:48:00 -
[188] - Quote
Whilst reading this thread my AFK Ishtars have been making billions.
This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2122
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Posted - 2014.02.21 04:58:00 -
[189] - Quote
mynnna wrote:Joke's on him, ishtars mean afk ratting.
I think we need some action against bot aspirant behaviour in nullsec.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318489 - Proposal for a new type of tech 2 Destroyer
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2122
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Posted - 2014.02.21 04:59:00 -
[190] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Weaselior wrote:gevlon riddle me this
before conquerable highsec pocos existed there was nothing that we could gain in highsec at an alliance level
You're right. There is nothing in highsec a Goon needs. So 2x Burn Jita, Nx Hulkageddon were all imagined by me.
There is fighting for something because you feel you need it, and fighting for the lulz.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318489 - Proposal for a new type of tech 2 Destroyer
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
153
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:06:00 -
[191] - Quote
I don't think Gevlon has given serious thought to what RvB got out of this on top of fights. We got POCOs, lots of POCOs, and their associated income. During the great POCO rush of November 2013, only 2 groups were ready for a big grab - RvB, and the Goons. Cooperation made a lot of sense for both RvB and the CFC.
Of course, this income would be insignificant for the Goons, but for us it's quite nice. We have no moons, our members do little ratting/missioning so tax income is low, we don't rent space... but POCO cash we have!
But that's not the interesting part...
Now some of you may thus conclude "ok, if the income is insignificant for a large nullsec alliance, why do the Goons care about *their* POCOs". I don't know. It makes Gevlon's quest quite peculiar.
But... the CFC leadership *does* know what it's doing. They are cunning, soo very cunning. Maybe there is some kind of grand plan here, something only they know. Some angle, some event to come, some market manipulation. But what is it? They aren't telling. Maybe it's just "we have POCOs lol" after all.
But Gevlon figures there has to be *something*, even though he has no idea what it is. So he's chasing this, this shadow, this hypothetical grand design.
And once you realize that Gevlon is chasing shadows... once we have this *context* allowing us to understand his behaviour... it all makes sense. These graphs, these charts, they are powerful lights to pierce the shadows and reveal the truth!
Of *course* RvB are the goon's pets! Of course Professor Clio has used his giant head to bamboozle the RvB CEO! Of course the leadership has tricked all the members! Of course RvB members are risk adverse! Of course RvB leaps to the CFC's defence at every turn! Of course RvB was created 4 years ago for this very task - the goons knew that high Sec POCOs were coming! IT ALL MAKES SENSE! It's *all* connected! Can't you see!?!
Wow... I feel so much better now. |
Istyn
Freight Club
The Marmite Collective
294
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:11:00 -
[192] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:mostly The Marmite Collective, the alliance with the best killboard ratio in EVE.
I'm not sure this is actually true. Even if it is, it is largely meaningless, other than from a mercenary-advert perspective. |
Bully B
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
46
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:19:00 -
[193] - Quote
Louis Robichaud wrote:
Of *course* RvB are the goon's pets! Of course Professor Clio has used his giant head to bamboozle the RvB CEO! Of course the leadership has tricked all the members! Of course RvB members are risk adverse! Of course RvB leaps to the CFC's defence at every turn! Of course RvB was created 4 years ago for this very task - the goons knew that high Sec POCOs were coming! IT ALL MAKES SENSE! It's *all* connected! Can't you see!?!
Finally, I can see the naked truth, that makes me happy. 
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Louis Robichaud
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
153
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:22:00 -
[194] - Quote
Bully B wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote:
Of *course* RvB are the goon's pets! Of course Professor Clio has used his giant head to bamboozle the RvB CEO! Of course the leadership has tricked all the members! Of course RvB members are risk adverse! Of course RvB leaps to the CFC's defence at every turn! Of course RvB was created 4 years ago for this very task - the goons knew that high Sec POCOs were coming! IT ALL MAKES SENSE! It's *all* connected! Can't you see!?!
Finally, I can see the naked truth, that makes me happy.
hehehe
But I'm not kidding when I said it made me feel better. Now that I understand where Gevlon is coming from, I feel a zen-like detachment, it's very soothing.
Of course I'll still have fun poking holes in his logic, but without that sense of urgency. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
153
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:24:00 -
[195] - Quote
Istyn wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:mostly The Marmite Collective, the alliance with the best killboard ratio in EVE. I'm not sure this is actually true. Even if it is, it is largely meaningless, other than from a mercenary-advert perspective.
Wow. Kudos to you for making that post. And I'll always be willing to admit that Marmite is *very* good at what it does. |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
164
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:31:00 -
[196] - Quote
Louis Robichaud wrote:I don't think Gevlon has given serious thought to what RvB got out of this on top of fights. We got POCOs, lots of POCOs, and their associated income. During the great POCO rush of November 2013, only 2 groups were ready for a big grab - RvB, and the Goons. Cooperation made a lot of sense for both RvB and the CFC.
Of course, this income would be insignificant for the Goons, but for us it's quite nice. We have no moons, our members do little ratting/missioning so tax income is low, we don't rent space... but POCO cash we have!
Ever heard of BoTLORD treaty? Goons and PL agreed not to directly attack the structures of each other in their respective regions they "own". You could have the same. Split the systems, you don't attack POCOs in Goon systems, they don't attack yours.
But instead you choose to go full ally, actively defending Goon assets. Since your POCOs were never in danger from anyone but Goons, you are bullied servants at best. Since my tiny alliance can contest Goon POCOs, it's clear that you were not forced to kiss the ring (and even then you could just have no POCOs). Above all, you could just give them the finger and "have fun fights". You choose to defend them. Just like you choose to defend Goons earlier this year. Which means you are their sockpuppet since years.
By the way I know that the reason Goons own POCOs is mostly "lol we have POCOs".
Considering the fact that you are in RvB, you greatly undervalue "lol". |
Froggy Storm
Paxton Industries
Gentlemen's Agreement
192
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:37:00 -
[197] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:I think I've figured out his nastiest surprise of all, which he will wait to reveal years from now...
This whole charade of ridiculous and loony blog and forum posts is done on purpose. As we speak, he is computing all of the isk that Goons could have earned ratting but didn't because they were reading and responding to his drivel.
How many billions, perhaps trillions of isk is Gevlon effectively stealing from Goons by wasting their time?
This is the greatest...
scam....
ever
Gevlon, you are a genius!
Damn phone at my response.
"Will you double the lost isk?" |
Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
97
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:47:00 -
[198] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote:I don't think Gevlon has given serious thought to what RvB got out of this on top of fights. We got POCOs, lots of POCOs, and their associated income. During the great POCO rush of November 2013, only 2 groups were ready for a big grab - RvB, and the Goons. Cooperation made a lot of sense for both RvB and the CFC.
Of course, this income would be insignificant for the Goons, but for us it's quite nice. We have no moons, our members do little ratting/missioning so tax income is low, we don't rent space... but POCO cash we have! Ever heard of BoTLORD treaty? Goons and PL agreed not to directly attack the structures of each other in their respective regions they "own". You could have the same. Split the systems, you don't attack POCOs in Goon systems, they don't attack yours. But instead you choose to go full ally, actively defending Goon assets. Since your POCOs were never in danger from anyone but Goons, you are bullied servants at best. Since my tiny alliance can contest Goon POCOs, it's clear that you were not forced to kiss the ring (and even then you could just have no POCOs). Above all, you could just give them the finger and "have fun fights". You choose to defend them. Just like you choose to defend Goons earlier this year. Which means you are their sockpuppet since years. By the way I know that the reason Goons own POCOs is mostly "lol we have POCOs". Considering the fact that you are in RvB, you greatly undervalue "lol".
Or maybe they choose to defend pocos to have those fun fights instead or endless structure grinding? Doesn't it sound simpler and more sane? But noooo, there has to be a big conspiracy. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
153
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:53:00 -
[199] - Quote
" Just like you choose to defend Goons earlier this year. Which means you are their sockpuppet since years."
You mean Burn Jita right?
Yes Gevlon, of course it means we are pets. Of course Mynnia is mocking you as we speak, and the only way to regain your mojo is to drink his precious POCO blood, yeeeessss.... |
Professor Clio
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
366
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Posted - 2014.02.21 06:20:00 -
[200] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote: Since my tiny alliance can contest Goon POCOs
We still have to see any evidence of that. |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
17
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Posted - 2014.02.21 06:58:00 -
[201] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote:I don't think Gevlon has given serious thought to what RvB got out of this on top of fights. We got POCOs, lots of POCOs, and their associated income. During the great POCO rush of November 2013, only 2 groups were ready for a big grab - RvB, and the Goons. Cooperation made a lot of sense for both RvB and the CFC.
Of course, this income would be insignificant for the Goons, but for us it's quite nice. We have no moons, our members do little ratting/missioning so tax income is low, we don't rent space... but POCO cash we have! Ever heard of BoTLORD treaty? Goons and PL agreed not to directly attack the structures of each other in their respective regions they "own". You could have the same. Split the systems, you don't attack POCOs in Goon systems, they don't attack yours. But instead you choose to go full ally, actively defending Goon assets. Since your POCOs were never in danger from anyone but Goons, you are bullied servants at best. Since my tiny alliance can contest Goon POCOs, it's clear that you were not forced to kiss the ring (and even then you could just have no POCOs). Above all, you could just give them the finger and "have fun fights". You choose to defend them. Just like you choose to defend Goons earlier this year. Which means you are their sockpuppet since years. By the way I know that the reason Goons own POCOs is mostly "lol we have POCOs". Considering the fact that you are in RvB, you greatly undervalue "lol".
Begs the question then why go after RvB like this? You want the goon pocos, RvB is stopping you getting the pocos, so why not try to talk to them and get them to sign a non-aggression pact instead of mutual defense pact with goons and then get the hell out of yr way? You know its a bad idea to fight a 2 front war right? Didn't work for napoleon, didnt end well for Adolf. One fight at a time if you want to win!
-á"quote=Erotica 1 "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked."
Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Zappity
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
824
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Posted - 2014.02.21 07:50:00 -
[202] - Quote
Who cares what the situation was five years ago? The situation now is more relevant. RvB is clearly aligned with a bloc. I think that is unfortunate given their strong history of just not caring. That's what made them so unique and useful.
I have consistently recommended that new PVPers join RvB until they find their feet. Now I hesitate. Perception matters even if the issue is actually irrelevant.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
97
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Posted - 2014.02.21 08:04:00 -
[203] - Quote
Tarojan wrote:Begs the question then why go after RvB like this? You want the goon pocos, RvB is stopping you getting the pocos, so why not try to talk to them and get them to sign a non-aggression pact instead of mutual defense pact with goons and then get the hell out of yr way? You know its a bad idea to fight a 2 front war right? Didn't work for napoleon, didnt end well for Adolf. One fight at a time if you want to win!
Given the amount of sewage he spilled on them, that would be quite an achievement. |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
164
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Posted - 2014.02.21 08:13:00 -
[204] - Quote
Tarojan wrote:
Begs the question then why go after RvB like this? You want the goon pocos, RvB is stopping you getting the pocos, so why not try to talk to them and get them to sign a non-aggression pact instead of mutual defense pact with goons and then get the hell out of yr way? You know its a bad idea to fight a 2 front war right? Didn't work for napoleon, didnt end well for Adolf. One fight at a time if you want to win!
I have better idea. I'll warp to a belt during incursion and when the rats arrive, I just be diplomatic and nice and convince them to leave me alone. After all they aren't mining, we don't have conflicting interests. |
Bumsicle Wedgie
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2014.02.21 08:13:00 -
[205] - Quote
I enjoyed your EN24 rant muchly.
More please. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2572
|
Posted - 2014.02.21 08:18:00 -
[206] - Quote
Zappity wrote:Who cares what the situation was five years ago? The situation now is more relevant. RvB is clearly aligned with a bloc. I think that is unfortunate given their strong history of just not caring. That's what made them so unique and useful.
I have consistently recommended that new PVPers join RvB until they find their feet. Now I hesitate. Perception matters even if the issue is actually irrelevant. Surely that should encourage you to recommend new players join them more, you know, them showing that not only do they PvP a lot, but they are willing to work diplomatically to generate content, while still letting them fly into goons space and pew pew some people.
If they refused to be diplomatic with any groups that's ever ganked some noobs and upset people, they'd pretty much have to roll out alone.
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
97
|
Posted - 2014.02.21 08:32:00 -
[207] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Tarojan wrote:
Begs the question then why go after RvB like this? You want the goon pocos, RvB is stopping you getting the pocos, so why not try to talk to them and get them to sign a non-aggression pact instead of mutual defense pact with goons and then get the hell out of yr way? You know its a bad idea to fight a 2 front war right? Didn't work for napoleon, didnt end well for Adolf. One fight at a time if you want to win!
I have better idea. I'll warp to a belt during incursion and when the rats arrive, I just be diplomatic and nice and convince them to leave me alone. After all they aren't mining, we don't have conflicting interests.
And because of this you are universally regarded as an idiot. |
Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
524
|
Posted - 2014.02.21 08:35:00 -
[208] - Quote
THIS:Zappity wrote:Who cares what the situation was five years ago? The situation now is more relevant. RvB is clearly aligned with a bloc. I think that is unfortunate given their strong history of just not caring. That's what made them so unique and useful.
I have consistently recommended that new PVPers join RvB until they find their feet. Now I hesitate. Perception matters even if the issue is actually irrelevant.
And also, I'd like this cleared up aswel;
Mangala Solaris wrote:Mangala Solaris : (26 January 2014 - 07:15 PM) Im repricing on our kbs so may fix it may not be honestly idgaf
26th January? I was on my way back from the Winter Summit in Iceland at that stage. Stuck on a rail replacement bus till gone 8pm.
So there is someone on the RVB shoutbox using your name? Or are you saying you didn't post that ever?
Oh and, suddenly the shoutbox is restricted, coincidence, I'm sure.
Sorry to be so hard on you, its a consequence of you being in the pants on fire hypocrit camp, I tend to paint those with the same brush. idgaf 
D.
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Domino Artan
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2014.02.21 08:46:00 -
[209] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Since my tiny alliance can contest Goon POCOs[..]
It's a fantasy that lemmings or marmite have ever contested a POCO. They haven't taken a single one, when they reffed a bunch of them during the 0-W deployment, 50 Goons fleeted up to to rep them and neither lemming or marmite came to fight for them. You all seem scared of Mitten's emissary in High Sec; Powers.
The numbers turning up for these ops are going up because the rage after you fail to take one is so delicious. If you shut up and poked away you'd probably get somewhere - but you can't shut up.
It's comedy to see you trying to meta RvB with a tactic one level below 'look behind you' - by calling them pets.
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gnshadowninja
Concentrated Evil
The Marmite Collective
72
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Posted - 2014.02.21 10:49:00 -
[210] - Quote
Domino Artan wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Since my tiny alliance can contest Goon POCOs[..]
It's a fantasy that lemmings or marmite have ever contested a POCO. They haven't taken a single one, when they reffed a bunch of them during the 0-W deployment, 50 Goons fleeted up to to rep them and neither lemming or marmite came to fight for them. You all seem scared of Mitten's emissary in High Sec; Powers. The numbers turning up for these ops are going up because the rage after you fail to take one is so delicious. If you shut up and poked away you'd probably get somewhere - but you can't shut up. It's comedy to see you trying to meta RvB with a tactic one level below 'look behind you' - by calling them pets.
Understand, marmite has no use for POCOs and your blind to this.
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