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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2980
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:20:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:mynnna wrote:So I need two things explained here. How do five cherrypicked wars in the past three months explain how a group that's existed in modern form since 2009 is really a Goonswarm front,
It's not 5, it's 8. It's not in 3 months but in all 2013 and 14. It's not cherry-picked, every single war were processed. The E-UNI and BNI wars were explicitly mentioned. Just like the 74 dummy wars with barely any kills.
So you admit your case falls apart when you remember that RvB has existed for almost five years now, then.
And I wonder how many of your supposed "dummy" wars were actually just RvB taking POCOs away from people in the past few months  Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Professor Clio
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
347
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:21:00 -
[62] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:and marching them against the best highsec PvP alliance in the game. Who is this "best highsec PvP alliance" you speak of?
I think he means marmite. They're the Best pvpers in the same sense that he annointed himself best pvper of all time after suicide ganking all those mining barges last year.
As for data, Gevlon should have really taken the easy step of searching for goonswarm federation on the RvB killboard, he would have seen that we kill each other quite freely. In fact, goon territory is a favorite hunting ground for Mang's ganked roams. You can see all the relevant data here: http://purple.rvbeve.com/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=35
I understand why he'd ignore 0.0 kills to focus on highsec wars though, never let the facts get in the way of a good story! |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
443
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:22:00 -
[63] - Quote
Teh suk....
It grows....
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2518
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:26:00 -
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i was there for the war of the mate
the bonds of mateship are not easily broken |

Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:28:00 -
[65] - Quote
"No valid alliance id specified."
Professor Clio wrote:I understand why he'd ignore 0.0 kills to focus on highsec wars though, never let the facts get in the way of a good story! 1: I didn't "ignore", I just have no data, yet 2: the directors can't control who goes nullsec and does what. But you can control who are war targets. I never claimed that the whole RvB is a bunch of Goon spies. The opposite. They are honest new players and casuals who joined for organized and cheap PvP and instead used as decoy and cannon fodder for Goons against Marmite.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2518
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:31:00 -
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eveo breaks those wiggly ampersand things in urls
remove the amp; |

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
543
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:33:00 -
[67] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote: .... marching them against the best highsec PvP alliance in the game.
Was a fan, for entertainments sake...but now he lost me... -1....
(Marmite) is the best highsec pvp alliance by which measure exactly?
If its coarse-grained statistics like total raw kills you are using (akin to clubbing re!arded children over the head as they stumble out of trade hubs), I would respectfully question your assertion of 'best'.
In short, once you inject any form of qualitative measure into such an assertion I would not highlight marmite as 'the best' hisec pvp alliance. Not as bold as to say we are, but there sure as f#ck are several hisec pvp alliances that consistently win wars against marmite. You might get away with saying they are the biggest, but hell-to-the-no on best.
Its important such assertions are corrected, there may be children watching...
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Would you like to know more? |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2559
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:35:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:"No valid alliance id specified." Genius... Learn to forum. EVE-O forums remove ampersands from query strings, so you have to copy-paste the links.
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Professor Clio wrote:I understand why he'd ignore 0.0 kills to focus on highsec wars though, never let the facts get in the way of a good story! 1: I didn't "ignore", I just have no data, yet Oh, lack of data? Yeah, that's not a problem at all. When you have lack of data, just fill the gaps with assumptions... right?
Gevlon Goblin wrote:2: the directors can't control who goes nullsec and does what. But you can control who are war targets. I never claimed that the whole RvB is a bunch of Goon spies. The opposite. They are honest new players and casuals who joined for organized and cheap PvP and instead used as decoy and cannon fodder for Goons against Marmite. Just because you guys are dumb enough to think that war deccing a null group is an amazingly clever idea, doesn't mean everyone does. I don't think RvB get their kicks from camping gates and stations for hours on end. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2560
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:41:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote: .... marching them against the best highsec PvP alliance in the game.
Was a fan, for entertainments sake...but now he lost me... -1.... (Marmite) is the best highsec pvp alliance by which measure exactly? If its coarse-grained statistics like total raw kills you are using (akin to clubbing re!arded children over the head as they stumble out of trade hubs), I would respectfully question your assertion of 'best'. In short, once you inject any form of qualitative measure into such an assertion I would not highlight marmite as 'the best' hisec pvp alliance. Not as bold as to say we are, but there sure as f#ck are several hisec pvp alliances that consistently win wars against marmite. You might get away with saying they are the biggest, but hell-to-the-no on best. Its important such assertions are corrected, there may be children watching... F Silly Feyd! Didn't you know, raw killboard isk numbers are the ONLY metric (until that no longer serves his purpose). Actual ability has nothing to do with it.
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

BKM Industries
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
18
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:42:00 -
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Mangala Solaris wrote:Why miss off the wars with blue/red as defender? Don't like those numbers? They do not make the point you wish to make with such child like massaging of numbers? Where is the breakdown of the RvB damage done & received in the wars you use to say that RvB is a Goon affair? Why not highlight the wars that blue didnt start with an entity directly but that entity left the target alliance (ally or directly aggressed), or is the lack of differentiation a sign of how little you (and the failed pvpers & so called "Mercs" that make up your supporters in vegemite commune. Although I suppose taking your isk makes them mercs in the loosest reading of the word.) understand about how war mechanics work? Why claim the numbers do not exist for every pre 2013 war? When they do. I am looking at them right now in game. (The cut off for numbers was Inferno itself - so summer 2012 - when these reports landed) However the kills do show on every war going back further, so maybe learn to count. I would love to see you go back to 2009, I am interested. Dissect everyone of our 600,000 total kills and make it all about your obsession. Will keep you from killing & eating hookers at least. And to answer a comment from your blog: Quote:But just for you: War: The Marmite Collective vs. Goonswarm Federation; 144; 20 is 2013/03/30 - 05/25 Definitely not POCO. Thats RvB getting their jollies on during Burn Jita. Unlike many of the grr goons/grr nullsec/failed pvper/hubcamping retards that live in highsec, we both aided Goon - so many dumb hicks buy the grr goons line, they make for excellent targets during BJ - and shot them and all their friends who showed up. We've had a good crack during BJ. And hope for bigger & better one during 2014. For future reference: Remember, ally periods are 2 weeks, so please refine your numbers and present them using tables and clear formatting. No wonder hicks fall for your schtick, you bamboozle them with a near incomprehensible wall of shite. Allys can enter a war after 4 hours. Hit those POCOs sooner my good man. Ever need a competent FC that understands war mechanics, I am available for 5 billion per fight + an FC proteus.
Sorry I can't read anything you post about after reading you talking about editing your kill board to make purples losses not look as bad. It does show why you guys always link your board instead of a neutral one. type something here to make a cool sig!!! |

Mangala Solaris
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
911
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:46:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:every single war were processed..
No it isnt. You limited it aggressive wars by your own admission. make up the part of the mind you are using today?
And it's was. Not were. One would hope your education at least covered correct English?
And Danalee, I still love you guys (Would I have asked you guys to let me write about you last week if I didnt?), you just get tarred with the rather large annoyed at stupid brush I use when dealing with stupid. Mangala Undocked |

Mangala Solaris
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
911
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:47:00 -
[72] - Quote
BKM Industries wrote:
Sorry I can't read anything you post about after reading you talking about editing your kill board to make purples losses not look as bad. It does show why you guys always link your board instead of a neutral one.
Proof? Mangala Undocked |

Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
138
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:48:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote: These are all POCO wars, and thus are in the Nov-Dec period. RvB has a mutual poco defense pact, one that has benefited us.
So your answer to "you are Goon pets" is "we are Goon allies"? Great. Louis Robichaud wrote: I would also like to add that I rejoined Eve after a 3 year break specifically to join RvB. It has far exceeded my expectations. You are doing Eve a disservice with these silly allegations.
Because It does a great service to EVE to recruit newbies who can barely figure out their overview and a few frigates is all their assets and marching them against the best highsec PvP alliance in the game. .
We teach newbies how to pvp *and* how not to be afraid of losing ships, IE not to be carebears that never fight.
Marmite is *really good * at what they do... But calling them best PvP alliance is ludicrous. |

BKM Industries
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
18
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:48:00 -
[74] - Quote
Mangala Solaris wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:every single war were processed.. No it isnt. You limited it aggressive wars by your own admission. make up the part of the mind you are using today? And it's was. Not were. One would hope your education at least covered correct English? And Danalee, I still love you guys (Would I have asked you guys to let me write about you last week if I didnt?), you just get tarred with the rather large annoyed at stupid brush I use when dealing with stupid.
Still did not read it but hey you should go change some prices on purples kill board so you guys look better. Last time you did not do a good enough job. type something here to make a cool sig!!! |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2560
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:50:00 -
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BKM Industries wrote:Still did not read it but hey you should go change some prices on purples kill board so you guys look better. Last time you did not do a good enough job. *Waah Waah* I'm not reading your posts but still feel like I need to post because I'm not getting enough attention pay attention to me pay attention TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME! *fingers in the ears* LALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING!
Seriously guy... Seriously.
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Professor Clio
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
348
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:52:00 -
[76] - Quote
BKM Industries wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:every single war were processed.. No it isnt. You limited it aggressive wars by your own admission. make up the part of the mind you are using today? And it's was. Not were. One would hope your education at least covered correct English? And Danalee, I still love you guys (Would I have asked you guys to let me write about you last week if I didnt?), you just get tarred with the rather large annoyed at stupid brush I use when dealing with stupid. Still did not read it but hey you should go change some prices on purples kill board so you guys look better. Last time you did not do a good enough job.
ERM... Our killboards match your own... Unless you're 60% efficiency against us since 2012 is you fixing your own killboards to make us look good :D |

Mangala Solaris
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
911
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:53:00 -
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BKM Industries wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:every single war were processed.. No it isnt. You limited it aggressive wars by your own admission. make up the part of the mind you are using today? And it's was. Not were. One would hope your education at least covered correct English? And Danalee, I still love you guys (Would I have asked you guys to let me write about you last week if I didnt?), you just get tarred with the rather large annoyed at stupid brush I use when dealing with stupid. Still did not read it but hey you should go change some prices on purples kill board so you guys look better. Last time you did not do a good enough job.
You understand that I dont have the patience to edit every value of every item yes?
Also we only edit when a price is showing as wrong - invariably lower than it is ingame (EDK uses as site that sometimes doesnt quite update right). We like the isk value to be as true as possible, and hey because I dont have patience it isnt ever possible!
But hey you still didnt actually link the proof, mostly as you're being all "lalalalalalala" fingers in ears. Mangala Undocked |

BKM Industries
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
18
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:53:00 -
[78] - Quote
Louis Robichaud wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote: These are all POCO wars, and thus are in the Nov-Dec period. RvB has a mutual poco defense pact, one that has benefited us.
So your answer to "you are Goon pets" is "we are Goon allies"? Great. Louis Robichaud wrote: I would also like to add that I rejoined Eve after a 3 year break specifically to join RvB. It has far exceeded my expectations. You are doing Eve a disservice with these silly allegations.
Because It does a great service to EVE to recruit newbies who can barely figure out their overview and a few frigates is all their assets and marching them against the best highsec PvP alliance in the game. . We teach newbies how to pvp *and* how not to be afraid of losing ships, IE not to be carebears that never fight. Marmite is *really good * at what they do... But calling them best PvP alliance is ludicrous.
So when we brought a 10 man BS death fleet to your guys home system and it took almost an hour for you guys to muster 40+ and the FC kept saying on coms he will not fight till you guys had 40+ with 20+ BS's and logi that teaches people how to not be afraid?
How does a FC who is afraid to lose a fight cry's on coms for overwhelming numbers teach people to not be afraid? type something here to make a cool sig!!! |

BKM Industries
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
18
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:55:00 -
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Professor Clio wrote:BKM Industries wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:every single war were processed.. No it isnt. You limited it aggressive wars by your own admission. make up the part of the mind you are using today? And it's was. Not were. One would hope your education at least covered correct English? And Danalee, I still love you guys (Would I have asked you guys to let me write about you last week if I didnt?), you just get tarred with the rather large annoyed at stupid brush I use when dealing with stupid. Still did not read it but hey you should go change some prices on purples kill board so you guys look better. Last time you did not do a good enough job. ERM... Our killboards match your own... Unless your 60% efficiency against us since 2012 is you fixing your own killboards to make us look good :D
Mangala Solaris : (26 January 2014 - 07:15 PM) Im repricing on our kbs so may fix it may not be honestly idgaf
Kinna funny to do this right after everyone was bitching and moaning about the 3b pod and other losses. type something here to make a cool sig!!! |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6581
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:58:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote: 2: the directors can't control who goes nullsec and does what. But you can control who are war targets. I never claimed that the whole RvB is a bunch of Goon spies. The opposite. They are honest new players and casuals who joined for organized and cheap PvP and instead used as decoy and cannon fodder for Goons against Marmite.
they can when they're leading the fleets into nullsec you pubbie Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Disadvantaged Persons Outreach Division:
"We hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |

Froggy Storm
Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
185
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:59:00 -
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OK since it was stated that I should address the message on the "merit it holds" to call it absurd. To that end it appears Mr Goblin has taken the addage of "My enemy's enemy is (words)" and made it into being more like a separated at birth conspiracy.
So by that thinking N3 are secretly goon renters. This is patently obvious because BL was in on the CSAA and break out attempts. But we all know BL is the CIA wing of goons to start with as observed by the cap-by off during fountain. Or was it delve? Oh and Bob. Or was it Steve.
The final proof is in that Mr goblin has made it public that he is funding any wars against goons and anyone who has ever met a goon. So clearly he is The_Mittani in disguise all along! |

Dramaticus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:59:00 -
[82] - Quote
I see we're at 'final days in the F++hrerbunker' level of crazy The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal
The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
444
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Posted - 2014.02.20 17:00:00 -
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Goblin--
Im still waiting on your report of ammunition expenditure vs opportunity cost in relation to the killmails you have obtained. Please publish this report shortly.
After goons read the report, they will all quit eve and most likely physically remove internet connections from their domiciles. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |

Mangala Solaris
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
911
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Posted - 2014.02.20 17:06:00 -
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BKM Industries wrote:Professor Clio wrote:BKM Industries wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:every single war were processed.. No it isnt. You limited it aggressive wars by your own admission. make up the part of the mind you are using today? And it's was. Not were. One would hope your education at least covered correct English? And Danalee, I still love you guys (Would I have asked you guys to let me write about you last week if I didnt?), you just get tarred with the rather large annoyed at stupid brush I use when dealing with stupid. Still did not read it but hey you should go change some prices on purples kill board so you guys look better. Last time you did not do a good enough job. ERM... Our killboards match your own... Unless your 60% efficiency against us since 2012 is you fixing your own killboards to make us look good :D Mangala Solaris : (26 January 2014 - 07:15 PM) Im repricing on our kbs so may fix it may not be honestly idgaf
Kinna funny to do this right after everyone was bitching and moaning about the 3b pod and other losses.
26th January? I was on my way back from the Winter Summit in Iceland at that stage. Stuck on a rail replacement bus till gone 8pm. Mangala Undocked |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
444
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Posted - 2014.02.20 17:11:00 -
[85] - Quote
Another post Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |

Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
88
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Posted - 2014.02.20 17:12:00 -
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BKM Industries wrote:Professor Clio wrote:BKM Industries wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:every single war were processed.. No it isnt. You limited it aggressive wars by your own admission. make up the part of the mind you are using today? And it's was. Not were. One would hope your education at least covered correct English? And Danalee, I still love you guys (Would I have asked you guys to let me write about you last week if I didnt?), you just get tarred with the rather large annoyed at stupid brush I use when dealing with stupid. Still did not read it but hey you should go change some prices on purples kill board so you guys look better. Last time you did not do a good enough job. ERM... Our killboards match your own... Unless your 60% efficiency against us since 2012 is you fixing your own killboards to make us look good :D Mangala Solaris : (26 January 2014 - 07:15 PM) Im repricing on our kbs so may fix it may not be honestly idgaf
Kinna funny to do this right after everyone was bitching and moaning about the 3b pod and other losses.
Goblin level of propaganda? |

Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
88
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Posted - 2014.02.20 17:12:00 -
[87] - Quote
Leto Thule wrote:Another post
You're making him win! |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
444
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Posted - 2014.02.20 17:16:00 -
[88] - Quote
Posting again Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2561
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Posted - 2014.02.20 17:18:00 -
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BKM Industries wrote:Mangala Solaris : (26 January 2014 - 07:15 PM) Im repricing on our kbs so may fix it may not be honestly idgaf
Kinna funny to do this right after everyone was bitching and moaning about the 3b pod and other losses. If you actually bother to look up that kill on ZKB and purple, you'll see that the prices were brought in line with ZKB. But that doesn't fit in with your whole "they are EEEEVIL" thing right? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

BKM Industries
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
18
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Posted - 2014.02.20 17:18:00 -
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@ Pete Butcher
No it was taken from there website they were dumb enough to be crying about the losses in the chat box so need for anyone to even log in and see it. You should learn to look stuff up yourself it is not hard to do. Chat box alone is enough to make my day many days with how often peps cry in it. type something here to make a cool sig!!! |
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