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DeGrand
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Posted - 2006.04.20 10:36:00 -
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Nothing *has* to be done, altho I agree that it would be nice if supply went up enough for prices to drop.
Eventho I can afford 200mil a pop HAC`s..I just refuse to buy em..and have so eversince they reached 100mil, you dont have to fly them, theres alternatives.
Theres pros and cons to a pricechange as well, I get a really big smile on my face when a HAC bites the dust. That smile wouldnt be so big if they would be reasonably priced.
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Nelson Vandermark
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Posted - 2006.04.20 10:40:00 -
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Just buy isk of ebay problem sovled. tbh I think most ppl do that because how the market is syndicated. but like in real life at moment with pertol prices paying $60AU to fill up my car a week is getting a bit too out of hand.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.20 10:45:00 -
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220 mil for a cerb? Damn I get em for 50 mil a pop... /hug BoB
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.04.20 10:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Boonaki
220 mil for a cerb? Damn I get em for 50 mil a pop... /hug BoB
How do I join BoB?
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.20 10:48:00 -
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the reason they are so expensive is because the alliances hae brought some of them up restricting supply to their members and now the rest are left to fight over price levels.
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.04.20 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Quaren
the big problem is really that the number of players has almost doubled in the last year but the number of t2 bpos are still the same.
The big problem really is that too many people think they _need_ HACs
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.20 10:51:00 -
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u gotta be a PVP pro and also be part of the borg
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.04.20 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord
u gotta be a PVP pro and also be part of the borg
I am a good meatshield and very collective too. I have own an Ibis, everything else to my corp.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.20 10:55:00 -
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be a meatshield u must fly a titan u need. Mmm be good PVP u must
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
220 mil for a cerb? Damn I get em for 50 mil a pop... /hug BoB
We know. You dont have to troll every thread telling us about your e-peen.
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Oosel
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:06:00 -
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simple solution is do not buy them.....also dont join the 0.0 space/alliance bandwagon so what you wont get the hac you want theres still tons of t1 stuff you can have a lot of fun with and counter to what every 0.0 player would have you beleive you can hang around in empire and have masses of fun without having to suck to any major alliance and play the game how you want at your own pace
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nelson Vandermark
Just buy isk of ebay problem sovled. tbh I think most ppl do that because how the market is syndicated. but like in real life at moment with pertol prices paying $60AU to fill up my car a week is getting a bit too out of hand.
heh, what a gem, I think I'm gonna keep this one 
Ebaying doesent really solve anything, especially not HAC prices...
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Nelson Vandermark
Just buy isk of ebay problem sovled. tbh I think most ppl do that because how the market is syndicated. but like in real life at moment with pertol prices paying $60AU to fill up my car a week is getting a bit too out of hand.
heh, what a gem, I think I'm gonna keep this one
Ebaying doesent really solve anything, especially not HAC prices...
True, just buy GTC's, thats what all the cool kids do.
We have some t2 / GTC moguls in game now. Go CCP!
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Mr Vapor
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:13:00 -
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I never post on this crap because I don't really see the point, but I'd like to finally say something on this.
T2 ships are not overpriced. T1 ships are underpriced.
I'm sorry, but not every 2 month noob should be in a BS. Cruisers should take a bit to work for and get like they did back in the day when the MOA was a feared ship to go against in battle. Frigates should be the most flown ships.
Then you would not see the mega blob BS Fleets. Then you would see more teamwork to get things done. Prices should go up.
And before you freak out, thinking "ZOMG, 3 year old player with tons of ISK!!!"
Think again.....
I have less than 50 mil in my wallet currently. I fly what I can afford to lose (a basic rule that all the WoW converts can't get their head wrapped around). I fly frigs tons, I own 2 BS that I worked for, I own several cruisers for PvP and I insure my ships.
IMO, the BS should cost the 200-300 mil they used to cost. Cruisers should cost the 10-20 mil they used to cost. Tech 2 ships should remain the same if not higher in cost, and whiners should learn to STFU and put the time in if you want that nice shiny ship.
If everyone is so uber then what's the damn point? This game isn't about grinding and getting a level 60 wizardpaladinorcslayerwithamagicspoon. It's about social interaction, politics, teamwork and goals.
Welcome to EVE. It's not for tards.
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Kryss Darkdust
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: NeoOhm
A idea to fix this overpriced t2 stuff is to add a few NPC¦s that manufactures t2 stuff for a resonable price, that way the prices in the galaxy should be more balanced.
Right now, we can see in the Insurances, that t2 ships are extremly expensive.
The Hawk it 3 mill payback and it it 18+ mill on the market.
Or the Cerberus that is 220+ mil and 14 mill payback.
Plz make some npc¦s or release more Blueprints so less greedy ppl can have a chance to make good ships for good prices.
Ty!
T2 stuff is basically the best you can do in the game short of unique rare drop items, faction rewards or dev releases like the Guardian Verox. The price of T2 stuff should be completetly outragous and personly I think its still waaaay too cheap. I've been playing for two months and I can already easily afford tech II ships and I don't even have the skills to fly them yet.
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Antzor
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:22:00 -
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Edited by: Antzor on 20/04/2006 11:23:40
Edited by: Antzor on 20/04/2006 11:23:28
Hey heres an idea, make money and buy them. Not everything is SUPPOSED to be cheap :|
Speaking of which, devs I can't afford a BS right now, can you please make them cheaper?
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: SonOTassadar
No.
Thread closed.
I bet you own one of the hac bp's and are making a ****load of em
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Lo3d3R
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Lo3d3R on 20/04/2006 11:26:42
the tech II market is insanly high priced...
for those people who say: "oh its supply and demand just like the real world"  I say like the real world my foot.
+ they are probaly totally biased having BPO's themseleves or have strings attached one way or the other AND YOU BLOODY WELL KNOW IT.
ahem, so we need allot more tech II BPO's
I feel better now.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:29:00 -
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Sighs, topic of the month... more T2 outcry.
Topic of next month, It-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay overpowered. Devz plz do something.
1337 speak?
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Mr Vapor
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:33:00 -
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Jenny, you're soooooo hawt.
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:45:00 -
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Still think the manufacture time is too high on them. Long term its impossible to support a growing playerbase through that system as if people can't see themselves progressing, by getting T2 ships etc, then they'll just stop playing.
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eLLioTT wave
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:53:00 -
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lets also make concord protect everyone in 0.0 like in 1.0 and.... also make it so everything is free like on the test server, then everyone will be happy right?
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odium alpha
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Posted - 2006.04.20 12:06:00 -
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IMHO I doubt decreasing manufactoring or increasing BPO's will have any impact on the prices.
As long as people are willing to buy them for 200mill they will always be 200mill regardless of what happens.
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2006.04.20 12:23:00 -
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Since I have a T2 ship BPO, I think that T2 market is fine. (Altho we should start a cartel on that ship, the 500% markup price is way too low).
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.20 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lo3d3R
the tech II market is insanly high priced...
for those people who say: "oh its supply and demand just like the real world" I say like the real world my foot.
+ they are probaly totally biased having BPO's themseleves or have strings attached one way or the other AND YOU BLOODY WELL KNOW IT.
ahem, so we need allot more tech II BPO's
I feel better now.
Target Painter IIs are an incredible 300k ISK.
They cost way too much. I can't afford to put one on my apoc--they should cost 150k ISK or less!
/not
"The T2 market" is actually mostly underpriced. People whine about 3 or 4 ships and items and generalize their whines to the entire system. Its like saying that "all cars explode and are unreliable" when only talking about the Ford Pinto.
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Iberi
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Posted - 2006.04.20 12:49:00 -
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About supply and demand in Eve:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=326296
Please, it is reality. Such practice is forbidden in any civilized country.but not in Eve.
We do not need NPC manufacture we need high concurrency in t2 market. I.e. full liquidation of t2 BPO and replacement them with t2 BPC. Afaik, CCP is planning something like this. I hope that CCP could correctly calculate number of BPC required by community...
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.20 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Iberi
About supply and demand in Eve:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=326296
Please, it is reality. Such practice is forbidden in any civilized country.but not in Eve.
It said on the EVE box when you bought it: "hypercapitalistic economy."
This means, among other things, no socialistic controls such as antitrust measures.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.04.20 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Iberi
About supply and demand in Eve:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=326296
Please, it is reality. Such practice is forbidden in any civilized country.but not in Eve.
It said on the EVE box when you bought it: "hypercapitalistic economy."
This means, among other things, no socialistic controls such as antitrust measures.
It also means, among other things, ability to spy on the bpo holders, figure out the secrets and make a bpo in competition. That doesn't happen.
The fundamental problem is shortage of bpo's. The player base has .. what? tripled? quadrupled? ..since those originals came out, but the number of blueprints hasn't gone up. That's non-capitalist, artificial restriction of a market, right there. You want hypercapitalism, wipe out the protectionism.
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Posted - 2006.04.20 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: NeoOhm
The Hawk it 3 mill payback and it it 18+ mill on the market.
Yep, T2 insurance dosn't even cover mineral costs. This is deliberate.
Next!
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Tresh Keen
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Posted - 2006.04.20 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Quaren
the big problem is really that the number of players has almost doubled in the last year but the number of t2 bpos are still the same.
Yep, and it is strange that CCP dont change that - remember the R.A.M. changes? CCPs reaction was extremly fast and they seeded R.A.M. BPO's - but the HAC BPOs or the Cap Rec 2 - they do nothing. For me its looks like the T2 BPO owner (HACs and co) do have a good relationship to CCP - a better then the rest of us.
I dont buy anymore any Cap Recs 2 and i stopped skilling for HACs.
Just that you understand me - i dont care about high price if there is a fair releation between BPO and Players - and i think we all agree that this relation ship is not fair anymore (with the older T2 BPO).
Cheers, Trash
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