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Keldareth	Posted - 2006.05.03 16:53:00 - [151] Originally by: Chain Gang Lets see you defending against the ISSN. Just wanted to quote him before he edits again and it makes your reading and comprehension of this thread a little easier Butter Dog.
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.05.03 16:53:00 - [152] Well my points still stand - if you did move into 0.0 proper and built yourselves a home, it might give you some goals other than sniping shuttles on the Sendaya gate. Up to you of course. ------------------ www.eve-iss.com
Wwhisper	Posted - 2006.05.03 17:12:00 - [153] Originally by: Butter Dog Well my points still stand - if you did move into 0.0 proper and built yourselves a home, it might give you some goals other than sniping shuttles on the Sendaya gate. Up to you of course. checking killboard.....I see an ISS shuttle kill but it's in Oursalaert as well as a hoarder in the same system. There also seems be a Raven kill in Erme. Sorry no shuttle kill in doril, check back later though. I'm sure an ISS sucide shuttle fleet is only moments away.
Lt Hole	Posted - 2006.05.03 17:13:00 - [154] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Lt Hole You lose corps and grow. Interesting math. I guess it works something like this: 10 - 1 = 11 We gain corps and grow, not that you know anything about it. I know you're losing corps. I know I have a hard time finding ISS flagged ships in Empire to attack. I know you'd say black was white if you thought it would make ISS look good. Those things I know.
Lt Hole	Posted - 2006.05.03 17:15:00 - [155] Originally by: Wwhisper checking killboard.....I see an ISS shuttle kill but it's in Oursalaert as well as a hoarder in the same system. There also seems be a Raven kill in Erme. Sorry no shuttle kill in doril, check back later though. I'm sure an ISS sucide shuttle fleet is only moments away. (Lt must learn to check the killboards to see where the Empire action is....)
Hoshi	Posted - 2006.05.03 17:33:00 - [156] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Hoshi I think you are missing a word or two here, it is a fact ISS hired MC. Maybe what you where going to say was ISS hiring MC specificly against CC. In that case it would be closer to the truth. Don't be so clueless, Hoshi. We've already successfully deployed one outpost with their assistance, two more to go. Those outposts represent 110bn ISK of investment - slightly more important than you guys. You're just a spot of light entertainment for them, nothing more. I am sorry if you missunderstood my post, I agree it was a bit unclear, what I was saying was that if what he wanted to say was that ISS did not hire MC specificly against CC it would be closer to the truth. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.03 17:48:00 - [157] I leave for lunch and all hell breaks loose. Can we all stop the flaming. Lets try answering questions without throwing flames back and forth shall we? It tends to be more productive. Lowa, What would we do if someone with unlimited funds moved in? First, thats a general question that any small alliances anywhere in eve would have to answer. If you know the history of Tyrell/CC you can probably figure out what we would do. We'd stay, fight... make money elsewhere if we couldnt do it in curse but continue to fight until they are gone. How long? Years if necessary... The original intent behind the comments of not fighting someone with unlimited funds was directed at specifically merc corps who are paid up front by someone else. Like i said before dont read more into it than that. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Max Teranous	Posted - 2006.05.03 17:51:00 - [158] If I am ever on the wrong side of an MC war dec I'll be engaging them till i'm out of isk and out of ships. Why? Because it'd be a shed load of fun and i'd be fighting against some of the best pilots in eve. And that's why I play. I'm sure other pvpers would and should say the same. Besides I bet they drop good loot Max
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.03 18:10:00 - [159] Originally by: Max Teranous If I am ever on the wrong side of an MC war dec I'll be engaging them till i'm out of isk and out of ships. Why? Because it'd be a shed load of fun and i'd be fighting against some of the best pilots in eve. And that's why I play. I'm sure other pvpers would and should say the same. Besides I bet they drop good loot No doubt its fun... but at the same time your giving the client exactly what they want and encouraging them to continue to hire mercs against you because its so effective. professional mercs are not concerned about your fun level, their concerned about the job they have to do. Its a give and take situation. Yes its fun no question... but you're playing right into your enemies hands. You give your enemy time to breath while someone else fights for them. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Valkazm	Posted - 2006.05.03 19:52:00 - [160] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Keldareth This is just speculation, but I think from the tone of this whole thread, if we were to plant an outpost somewhere ISSN would be the least of our concern. Quite literally the LEAST of our concern. LV and all the others would probably be much more of a problem. That is unless ISS plays the role of the lazy moneybag and throws countless merc corps at our theoretical outpost. I can't log in right now, who are you chain gang? Are you in this war at all or are you just taking a shot at us for the sake of feeling a little better about yourself? You're very welcome to build an outpost, we wouldnt wish to stop you. Indeed we'd offer our support. Development of 0.0 space is what ISS stands for, after all. Rather than speculate, do it. Move into 0.0 proper and build a home you can be proud of. CVA are a similar size and they have an outpost, and it would be a nice goal for you guys to work for, apart from sniping noobs entering Doril from the Sendaya gate. Unless, of course, you're happy with achieving precisely nothing. Why do you assume everyone shares the same ideology as ISS im perfectly happy not sharing with acces to 0.0 and keeping it all for myself and my corp and killing any others... As far as achiving something its like saying a Merc corporation is achiving something by earning isk and attacking others .. Just beacuse CC dosent want to Play Carebear with and actually make the game intresting by not agreeing to everything or always trying to get along and be a pushover alliance ..Dont even get your points sometimes you disagre beacuse CC policy is not ISS policy its easy butter were the bad guys someone has to be the bad guy

Krackerjack	Posted - 2006.05.03 22:41:00 - [161] Originally by: Lt Hole I know you're losing corps. I know I have a hard time finding ISS flagged ships in Empire to attack. I know you'd say black was white if you thought it would make ISS look good. Those things I know. Look, this is easily proven guys, even right here on this website. Go to 'backstory', click on 'Alliances' and see how many members ISS have. If its more than they have ever had before, then ISS are correct that you're war is not having any negative effects on them. Nublets.
Coby Descent	Posted - 2006.05.03 23:12:00 - [162] Originally by: Valkazm Why do you assume everyone shares the same ideology as ISS im perfectly happy not sharing with acces to 0.0 and keeping it all for myself and my corp and killing any others... As far as achiving something its like saying a Merc corporation is achiving something by earning isk and attacking others .. Just beacuse CC dosent want to Play Carebear with and actually make the game intresting by not agreeing to everything or always trying to get along and be a pushover alliance ..Dont even get your points sometimes you disagre beacuse CC policy is not ISS policy its easy butter were the bad guys someone has to be the bad guy I'm not making any political comment, because I don't want to get involved in this "discussion" and I'm mearly posing a question, but does the above quote not confirm the first post of this thread?
Vincent Gaines	Posted - 2006.05.03 23:35:00 - [163] am I mistaken that this is an in-character forum?
Atlas Oracle	Posted - 2006.05.04 00:36:00 - [164] Edited by: Atlas Oracle on 04/05/2006 00:36:08 Originally by: Vincent Gaines am I mistaken that this is an in-character forum? of course you are not mistaken - the sticky at the top says "THIS IS AN IN CHARACTER ONLY FORUM"
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2006.05.04 01:29:00 - [165] Originally by: Evelgrivion On another note, player killing is one thing - extortion is another. And the IAC doesnt like piracy - as ransoming a ship is piracy to the highest degree. Speak for yourself ;p I much prefer to pay a ransom rather than losing a ship or pod Alas people hardly ever ransom me ;[ http://eve.klaki.net/
Vincent Gaines	Posted - 2006.05.04 02:27:00 - [166] Originally by: Atlas Oracle Edited by: Atlas Oracle on 04/05/2006 00:36:08 Originally by: Vincent Gaines am I mistaken that this is an in-character forum? of course you are not mistaken - the sticky at the top says "THIS IS AN IN CHARACTER ONLY FORUM" you're not one to catch a hint, are ya?
Wwhisper	Posted - 2006.05.04 03:55:00 - [167] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: Evelgrivion On another note, player killing is one thing - extortion is another. And the IAC doesnt like piracy - as ransoming a ship is piracy to the highest degree. Speak for yourself ;p I much prefer to pay a ransom rather than losing a ship or pod Alas people hardly ever ransom me ;[ CC does not condone extorsion. You're either killed or not. If it happens, pls send a message to one of the directors and it will be promtly dealt with.
Valkazm	Posted - 2006.05.04 07:45:00 - [168] Originally by: Coby Descent Originally by: Valkazm Why do you assume everyone shares the same ideology as ISS im perfectly happy not sharing with acces to 0.0 and keeping it all for myself and my corp and killing any others... As far as achiving something its like saying a Merc corporation is achiving something by earning isk and attacking others .. Just beacuse CC dosent want to Play Carebear with and actually make the game intresting by not agreeing to everything or always trying to get along and be a pushover alliance ..Dont even get your points sometimes you disagre beacuse CC policy is not ISS policy its easy butter were the bad guys someone has to be the bad guy I'm not making any political comment, because I don't want to get involved in this "discussion" and I'm mearly posing a question, but does the above quote not confirm the first post of this thread? It proves that im happy with the assumption made for myself im happy being considered as some barbarian up north who only shoots people that pass by so that i can actually get things togheter with the corp and later on with the alliance ..
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:46:00 - [169] Morning bump for my favourite thread ------------------ www.eve-iss.com
Uggster	Posted - 2006.05.04 11:29:00 - [170] CC = NPC station hugging noob shooters with little or no real talant and a long list of excuses why they "need" to "defend" "thier" space. They are a fly in the ointment of eve and little more.

Tara Read	Posted - 2006.05.04 15:50:00 - [171] Originally by: Eyeshadow We fly the most expensive ships with the most expensive equipment. However, we are the best at what we do () and this allows us to fly the ships we do. We do lose HACs and faction stuff sometimes though so you can inflict some loss on us I dunno bout that; the MC hac's I took without them firing a shot back; had some of the worst ISHTAR fittings I've ever seen.
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.05.04 16:20:00 - [172] Edited by: Butter Dog on 04/05/2006 16:20:50 Tara, shame on you for smacktalking about peoples fittings. Want to read something really funny? Here we are... [2006.04.28 05:15:11] Tara Read > RAWWWRRR [2006.04.28 05:15:14] Tara Read > 2 steps ahead ftw [2006.04.28 05:35:02] Tara Read > i could fly from SS to SS or warp in @ 100km on you all night [2006.04.28 05:36:04] Tara Read > its all the same to me [2006.04.28 05:36:49] Tara Read > i just never been caught [2006.04.28 05:36:50] Tara Read > in months 15 minutes later.... http://bdci.killboard.net/?p=details&id=15689 ------------------ www.eve-iss.com
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2006.05.04 16:24:00 - [173] Originally by: Tara Read I dunno bout that; the MC hac's I took without them firing a shot back; had some of the worst ISHTAR fittings I've ever seen. to be honest, yours was pretty crap aswell by my standards. Each to their own though. Be careful what you say though Tara, the incident with your smack in local and then getting righteously ganked by Farjung/Tovarisch and a couple more MC and then following said ganking with more smack has brought many a smile to us on our forums My Latest Vid (18/04/06)
Farjung	Posted - 2006.05.04 16:27:00 - [174] Play nice boys and girls ¼_¼. --- Reckless Wave of Mutilation
Tara Read	Posted - 2006.05.04 18:35:00 - [175] Edited by: Tara Read on 04/05/2006 18:38:14 Originally by: Farjung Play nice boys and girls ¼_¼. i dont think farjung wants me to point out the falcon i/we just killed about an hour ago... along with a few shinra battleships http://bdci.killboard.net/?p=details&id=15863 i can link kill mails all day if it comes down to it... i know i have alot more KM's that deaths and ISS; stop linking for MC; they can do it themselves. but dont resort to it. i however have to shove this one back in there/your face. ________________________________________________ Keeping 0.0 Lethal; Since; Ever; Like its supposed to be.
Tara Read	Posted - 2006.05.04 18:44:00 - [176] Originally by: Eyeshadow Originally by: Tara Read I dunno bout that; the MC hac's I took without them firing a shot back; had some of the worst ISHTAR fittings I've ever seen. to be honest, yours was pretty crap aswell by my standards. Each to their own though. Be careful what you say though Tara, the incident with your smack in local and then getting righteously ganked by Farjung/Tovarisch and a couple more MC and then following said ganking with more smack has brought many a smile to us on our forums i know nectar and phoenus werent smiling when i outsmarted them... now how about butterdog go to the MC board; look up tara read; and link my kills and losses and take a guess whos smiling still. im sooooo sorry to bring you into this MC; i respect you guys; but this buttercat is a weaklink forum*****. ________________________________________________ Keeping 0.0 Lethal; Since; Ever; Like its supposed to be.
Farjung	Posted - 2006.05.04 18:54:00 - [177] Originally by: Tara Read Edited by: Tara Read on 04/05/2006 18:38:14 Originally by: Farjung Play nice boys and girls ¼_¼. i dont think farjung wants me to point out the falcon i/we just killed about an hour ago... along with a few shinra battleships I don't particularly care to be honest, I just think chest-beating on the forums or in local serves no purpose. --- Reckless Wave of Mutilation
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.04 19:05:00 - [178] Edited by: Raid on 04/05/2006 19:05:00 Originally by: Farjung Originally by: Tara Read Edited by: Tara Read on 04/05/2006 18:38:14 Originally by: Farjung Play nice boys and girls ¼_¼. i dont think farjung wants me to point out the falcon i/we just killed about an hour ago... along with a few shinra battleships I don't particularly care to be honest, I just think chest-beating on the forums or in local serves no purpose. Its gives me a reason to stay awake at the office. Can you imagine if i actually WORKED? The Horror!!! Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Rebekah	Posted - 2006.05.04 21:23:00 - [179] OK - I'm pretty fed up with this ISS propaganda saying that we are only killing T1 frigs and the ISS can take the losses etc. Frankly I don't care what rubbish you guys want to spout, it's mostly made up anyway so why bother. If you want to get serious lets look at the real facts about this war. Since it began (12 days ago) the curse coalition have destroyed the following ISS ships. Pods127 Frigates92 Cruisers53 Shuttles23 Battleships22 Haulers19 Battle Cruisers15 Noob Ships11 Interceptors10 Assault Frigate6 Covert ops3 Destroyers3 Mining Barge2 TOTAL386 Along with that we have also destroyed 526 other ships not from ISS. Our friends in CDC have killed over 200 ISS ships in the same period. If you don't believe it go take a look at our killboards. We have taken losses too, I am not an idiot and I am fairly certain that our killboard losses are not the whole story but If you want to challenge it, lets see the evidence - Post your CC kills here in the same way we have and lets see where the chips fall. You and others are saying that ISS can sustain all these losses - that's just peachy! Well guess what? So can we! Tyrell Corp alone could sustain all the losses of CC, CDC even ISS put together with no problem at all - ISS is NOT the only group in the universe that has ways to make isk. Lets keep up the good work CC!
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.05.04 22:36:00 - [180] The difference being, thats just an average fortnight for the ISS. Its business as usual as we are still making money and building outposts across the four corners of EVE. We are still achieving everything we wish, plus fighting you. Its all good in the ISS right now :) ------------------ www.eve-iss.com



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