So its any ship in those classes?

860 Plex total rewards?

seems a lot, even though it's going to be spread out over quite a few people

will they shoot back though?

A lot.

Total rewards will be 700 PLEX spread across 16 characters.

Will they be tanked against specific damage types or just omni ? and will they deal omni damage or just caldari like kin/therm ?

The PLEX are being pulled from stuff confiscated from RMTers, by the way.

I really, really hope you are not joking.

I really, really hope you are not joking.

I really, really hope you are not joking.

So as someone who has never done one of these events before, what prevents this from becoming a pvp free-for-all in lowsec systems? I can't see this many players in one system cooperating very well.

pvp free-for-all in lowsec

That's part of the fun, welcome to EvE, where capsuleer devours capsuleer for wealth and prestige. Or in this case, Greed & mayhem.

Agreed. But how can they expect the cap ship to be killed if everyone's killing each other?

I really, really hope you are not joking.

No, he's not joking.

Bounty Breakdown:

Kossen Jaikka GÇô 80 PLEX Total

• Top Damage GÇô 15 PLEX
• Final Blow (ship) GÇô 15 PLEX
• Final Blow (pod) GÇô 15 PLEX
• Corpse GÇô 10 PLEX
• Top Damage (Battleship) GÇô 10 PLEX
• Top Damage (Battlecruiser) GÇô 5 PLEX
• Top Damage (Cruiser) GÇô 5 PLEX
• Top Damage (Destroyer) GÇô 3 PLEX
• Top Damage (Frigate) GÇô 2 PLEX

All Other Capital Pilots GÇô 40 PLEX Each

• Top Damage GÇô 7 PLEX
• Final Blow (ship) GÇô 7 PLEX
• Final Blow (pod) GÇô 7 PLEX
• Corpse GÇô 5 PLEX
• Top Damage (Battleship) GÇô 5 PLEX
• Top Damage (Battlecruiser) GÇô 3 PLEX
• Top Damage (Cruiser) GÇô 3 PLEX
• Top Damage (Destroyer) GÇô 2 PLEX
• Top Damage (Frigate) GÇô 1 PLEX

Cumulative Rewards GÇô 20 PLEX

• Top Damage GÇô 10 PLEX
• On Most Killmails GÇô 10 PLEX

Hey CCP falcon, given that some of these events will happen in Lowsec... aren't you missing a few ship type rewards? (Hint: think bigger!)

so are they soloable in a pvp buffer tank battleship?

Sooo, player fleet will not be able to hold logi on field b/c all their logi will get flagged suspect and killed by all the drooling bears who are afraid to engage something that can shoot back...

Way.
To.
Go.

Let player logi participate for once.

I mean, neat event attempt, but there needs to be some sort of support for the player fleet (logi) in the HS systems or there will be no kills of any capital that is in a dev fleet. Since none of the players will be getting reps.

I really, really hope you are not joking.

So as someone who has never done one of these events before, what prevents this from becoming a pvp free-for-all in lowsec systems? I can't see this many players in one system cooperating very well.

The PLEX are being pulled from stuff confiscated from RMTers, by the way.

Can you give us a rough number of how many plex y'all have confiscated? I doubt 700 even puts a drop in the bucket.

Disappointed Plex are being offered for this event. I feel better rewards would be ship skin options for any of the Caldari ships. As most of those prizes are over a billion isk,

With the total prizes offered being somewhere around 500 Billion isk for the entire event.

I'm also disappointed how once again Logi pilots get left in the dark on an event, despite performing highly important roles for any fleet.

That said, the event itself looks great, just the rewards scheme doesn't

Sooo, player fleet will not be able to hold logi on field b/c all their logi will get flagged suspect and killed by all the drooling bears who are afraid to engage something that can shoot back...

Way.
To.
Go.

Let player logi participate for once.

I mean, neat event attempt, but there needs to be some sort of support for the player fleet (logi) in the HS systems or there will be no kills of any capital that is in a dev fleet. Since none of the players will be getting reps.

hi . as someone with little PvP experience ,how does one get involved ,cause it sounds like fun. my standings against caldari are not great does this effect me getting to the event?

so my questions are

1 where will the fight be ( caldari state is about 30 jumps away)

2 are we fighting players or npc''s

3 is this a fleet thing or can i fly around solo and shoot stuff

4 i'm going to die alot are'nt i

thats all at the moment just need to be close to where it will be happening to set jump clone and parts , ships and anything else i need and i take it utc is eve time?

Can I just suggest that you not broadcast the system names at all?

We already know what time they are appearing and that it's going to be somewhere in Caldari Low/High. If it required some degree of actual, you know, hunting, that would be fantastic. And maybe you could avoid the instant 10% TiDi as far as 5 systems out that most recent live events have involved (not to mention being locked out of the event system when you actually reach it.

The PLEX are being pulled from stuff confiscated from RMTers, by the way.

The PLEX are being pulled from stuff confiscated from RMTers, by the way.

huh?

why would logi go suspect?

Right......

If CCP gave out solid gold bars, you would complain they were too heavy.

I wouldn't undock a shuttle for a ship skin. Will probably fly logi if I can get to the fight.

Hey, CCP.

When you do these, please dev hack cyno jam the surrounding systems. Given the sheer amount of stuff at stake, let's make sure we don't just have one group of people crowding out everyone else. *cough PL cough*

Remember the debacle from the last Live Event.

Highsec will be against NPCs unless they set everyone suspect again (please!). If you want PvP, come to the lowsec one in a clean clone (no expensive implants) and just shoot whoever you want. Educate yourself about gate guns and aggression mechanics.

Or join RvB in the interim.

Seconded.

Are Tech 3 hulls counted as cruiser hull??

This is a massive departure from CCP's normal policy for live events. As the normal policy till now has been no in game rewards. There have been Dev roams that haven't dropped anywhere near this much value in rewards. So yes, I feel the scale of the reward is out of line with their previous behaviour. FIVE HUNDRED BILLION ISK! Seriously.

And the rewards aren't being allocated in a manner that allows everyone a chance. For the low sec ones the big prizes will go to either CFC/PL as the effective entities left who can project caps in number or the local entity if they drop into a system someone has local caps in already. Since the Caps can take the prizes for most damage, & kill shot.

Additionally as has been shown already to be problematic in previous live events, both the structure of the event and agro mechanics punish logi pilots for attending. I say this as someone who normally flies logi also. I turn up, and I get next to no recognition. When the event gives no-one any recognition that's one thing, but when the event is structured to give out FIVE HUNDRED BILLION in pay outs, and as Logi I am punished by agro mechanics making me suspect if it's in high sec, and have no chance at all to get any of those pay outs, I think it's fair enough to say that Logi are getting left in the cold with the design.

How exactly do you plan on making sure it actually works this time or do your logs miraculously work when you want them to? :p

You mean the logs actually exist??

The top damage (ship class) rewards are not cumulative with the top overall damage. Whoever comes in second with the same ship class as the top overall damage dealer will take home the class reward. In order to claim the corpse reward, players must contract the corpse to Hikemi Korrado at no cost (we will check to make sure the corpse is the correct one).

dinsdale head explode if he sees this.
from said toons bio:

Caldari Navy [CN]
Member for 25 years, 11 months, 24 days


Caldari Navy [CN] from 1988.04.20 13:36 to this day

860 Plex total rewards?

seems a lot, even though it's going to be spread out over quite a few people

I found the system, 82% tidi. eeeeek.

Akkio, planet three, it seems?

Stay away from planet 3, it's swarming with gankers.

As expected with this first event starting in lowsec, PL titan bridged close to 40 BS's and started whoring out the capital, anyone who got near it was podded and shoved into a new clone immediately.

The TiDi wasn't too bad but could've been a hell of a lot better, you could definitely feel it a few systems out.

As expected with this first event starting in lowsec, PL titan bridged close to 40 BS's and started whoring out the capital, anyone who got near it was podded and shoved into a new clone immediately.

The TiDi wasn't too bad but could've been a hell of a lot better, you could definitely feel it a few systems out.

As expected with this first event starting in lowsec, PL titan bridged close to 40 BS's and started whoring out the capital, anyone who got near it was podded and shoved into a new clone immediately.

The TiDi wasn't too bad but could've been a hell of a lot better, you could definitely feel it a few systems out.

PS. Nerf power projection

Not much of a Live Event in this "live event"
Large events with known times don't go/scale well


PS. Nerf power projection

Maybe these events might be a cover for CCP reimbursing PL for throwing away their titan fleet in BR and giving CCP some publicity.

Nice event. Ought to be another crowd example of right chaos. Great opportunity for right minded player pirates to pick off the weak and stupid as the event ships get taken down. And at the end scoop up the loot corpse in a covert ops cloaked ship to scoot away to cries of woe and shame.


But...CCP could bring this jolly spirit to EVE every day with the right PLEX detection modules and structures. Well rare random times anyways.

Just add personal stealth PLEX detection with onboard modules. PLEX detection towers near hi sec gates making any ship with PLEX in cargo pulse bright green. Maybe even flash the number of PLEX contained for high meta/T2 versions of detections. Or if CCP wants to keep code simple just broadcast ship name and # PLEX in chat as ship passes PLEX detection tower.

Anyone who moves around PLEX for market speculation deserves to lose those PLEX and the ship they are in.

On the upside, atleast it wasn't Goons or TESTs who got the pot.

First, CCP definitely has had in-game rewards for past live events. Think of all those uber nice drops from past dev roams.

Can't blame PL for snagging all the PLEX. But I can blame CCP for not seeing this happening.

On the upside, atleast it wasn't Goons or TESTs who got the pot.

So in highsec (where the ships we're hunting can't go anyway) we can only shoot them and not each other (unless we are at war)? i.e. we wont get suspect flags ourselves for shooting these ships?

No plans to mass suspect flag everyone. However, normal crimewatch mechanics apply (so for example, providing remote assistance to a suspect or someone engaged in a limited engagement will give you a suspect flag).

No plans to mass suspect flag everyone. However, normal crimewatch mechanics apply (so for example, providing remote assistance to a suspect or someone engaged in a limited engagement will give you a suspect flag).

First off, let me congratulate PL for winning the lewt. Well done and well deserved!

As for our friend here who seems a bit upset about us getting the lewt. Do not despair. We were here in an harpy fleet to kill the participants. Most line members of Goonswarm already have enough isk coming in from the production lines, anomalies and complexes in our space. Thanks to our DEAREST LEADER who is also the chairman of the shadow CSM which is the SPACE ILLUMINATI, we have so much plex we sometimes undock on our empire alts in noobships with plex in our cargoholds to get rid of them. Because we love you all. :)

Nothing funner than fighting a fleet of dev's with carrier reps whilst in a fleet with no effective logi..!!!!

Atleast if there does manage to be a HS instance it will be more or less the players who survive the dev's dmg long enough to get on the mail...if the player fleets can push through the capital reps with their buffer fits.

So pretty much if you are logi don't bother turning up to the high sec events unless you love being the target for everyone. *sighs* Since it doesn't matter if you shoot the target first, it still turns you suspect. Even with identical LE's.

Does anyone have official event fleets going on for this, or is it just a "show up and see what's there" deal?

good to read about PL before i bothered joining the party.

Yes, it's ok in MMO for bigger organized groups to have upper hand. No one will say that casual players and kitchen sink fleets should have chance in Alliance Tournament for example. However Life Event is a different kind of animal. If you want regular (read casual) players to participate you need to make rules so they have some chances too.

Previous LE clearly shown many casuals that it's better to keep away from such things. I would be amazed if this LE grabs many people outside of regular groups like FW, big alliances and such.

Personally i will think twice about visiting any events like this. And for sure i won't bring BATTLESHIP (lol???) into these playgrounds of low-seccers. Not sure if any type of ships above frigate worth the risk and 0% chance to get any reward.

Good luck to those who will try

I would have expected that Caldari Navy Ships would be fitted with Caldari Navy equipment and not standard off the shelf products.

I'd just like to thank CCP for the excellent events, and the content that they are providing for the playerbase so far.

I was in mixed minds as to what ship to bring to the event today (having only managed a Covert Ops for the one yesterday), and - with it being a long time since I've participated in high sec shenanigans, wasn't entirely firm in the belief as to what would happen with my own flagging once I lit up the CCP controlled characters.

As such, I decided to play it somewhat safe and bring a Vargur. If I'm going to die, I'm going to have some fun doing it.

Whilst I was lucky when I dropped onto the field, and saw a small number of people had already beaten me to the safespot and were not flagged despite shooting Tsatei, I actually felt a little sad, as I was somewhat hoping for a massive post-downtime brawl at the planet with everybody being flagged. :(

Nonetheless, thanks for providing the highsec dwellers with equal opportunity to win these prizes. o7

Tsatei Uppas
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=22921874

There were plenty of "casual" players participating in this event, our killboard is full of them, but some of them even posted in this very thread stating that they had fun doing so.

In this game, we players can participate in the lore and our actions affect the outcomes - I'm guessing you didn't complain when the Jita monument was wrecked.

If all you care about is the reward then this sort of thing clearly isn't for you anyway. As for Pandemic Legion, we will continue to valiantly defend the underdog (or highest bidder) whenever the opportunity presents itself. Good luck trying to stop us.

you right. I didn't complain. Because i don't care about this monument and i didn't care about all that whine which led to it's wrecking. But this is offtopic.

hey CCP, next time, don't bother with the live event, just hand off the plex to PL, this will save time and ressources.....

No, this is actually spot on. You are asking for special rules to make sure certain groups of players are prevented from participating in lore-shaping events so that "casual" players (your emphasis, not mine) can have a shot at collecting in-game rewards, entirely skipping the part were this is not about the rewards in the first place.

Join our fleet so we can watch you go suspect, then not rep you "for the lolz"

FTFY

People aren't getting flagged in highsec, and in lowsec it doesnt matter. You don't have to come if you don't want to - no need to make nonsensical excuses for everyone else v0v

You know all you people complaining about PL winning all the prizes, why don't you form a massive fleet of people in a cohesive doctrine with a competent FC and actually fight them for it. Sounds way more fun than complaining about if on the forums. And even if you lose to them at least you tried. Better than warping a kitchen sink gang into their fleet and wondering why you got owned.

Seriously I hope some people have the balls to do this. It would make the next lowsec events much more fun.

So they should keep these events in highsec? Because if they put it anywhere in null it's going to "happen" to be near a nullsec power. Better PL then Goons I guess.

So they should keep these events in highsec? Because if they put it anywhere in null it's going to "happen" to be near a nullsec power. Better PL then Goons I guess.

Please just hand all rewards to PL and save everyone's time.

TWICE now there were fleets in system when the announcement went out.

Isn't it funny how the same people win stuff from CCP all the time?

Just admit it, hand them the stuff and move on.

T20 would be happy to help.

The 2nd one was a highsec event and i can assure you i did not see the PL presence the low-sec one had.

Also the PL guy who snatched the pod is a guy i have seen roaming in low-sec SOLO mostly so it probably has more to do with him being smart enough to fit something that has a really fast lock and once he shot the carrier one time exclude everything from the overview except pods.This way he would have a verry high chance of getting the pod first.At least that would be how i'd do it.

Also since it was high-sec you could also say it would be unfair as e-uni or RvB has a huge presence there so could easily walk off with the prizes.

But then why use logic when you can just generalise.


I do agree on the part that the rewards are too high but on the other hand i couldn't care less about it .It is what it is and not like the amount will shift any 'balance' in the game.

sorry stupid question, kinda new
is there any chance if i shoot at the carrier that i can get shot at by other people in the system?
Thanks

The PLEX are being pulled from stuff confiscated from RMTers, by the way.

Suggestion: would it be possible to announce further in advance which are LS, and which HS?

The former are pre-decided and largely pointless for most to turn up to, so a bit frustrating to wait around for it all day then discover that's the case.

The top battleship damage went to iskmagnet, BobMcFing was top battlecruiser

Bob McFing
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Damnation (Command ship)
Civilian Light Electron Blaster
Damage done: 0 (0.00%)


good guys win again.

Bob McFing
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Damnation (Command ship)
Civilian Light Electron Blaster
Damage done: 0 (0.00%)


good guys win again.

really???

Yes really.

Also, the Chimera had no damage on the killmail from any battlecruisers, so that prize will go unclaimed.

I'm pretty sure you need to be in system when the killmail is generated, and have attacked the target within the last x minutes (I think it's 15 minutes from memory, but I'm going to go confirm with a programmer and some testing on Sisi) before the killmail is generated to be on the killmail.

The final blow on Inikas's Chimera was Numator, top damage was DarklordKarn, [...] DarklordKarn was the most damaging battleship

I'm pretty sure you need to be in system when the killmail is generated, and have attacked the target within the last x minutes (I think it's 15 minutes from memory, but I'm going to go confirm with a programmer and some testing on Sisi) before the killmail is generated to be on the killmail.

Wasn't there something about top damage position excludes from getting individual ship class top damage prizes? Not that it matters much, as 00tricky ...

In short, a case of: stop complaining PL claims all, go out and do something about it!

No, we like complaining. We want free/easy no risk PLEX.

No, we don't want stupidly high levels of prizes for live events that make it profitable for PL even if they loose every single ship in their fleet as long as they get the prize. Todays event, over 50 BILLION! in plex prizes.

No, we don't want stupidly high levels of prizes for live events that make it profitable for PL even if they loose every single ship in their fleet as long as they get the prize. Todays event, over 50 BILLION! in plex prizes.

My latest publishment on todays manhunt: Provists Uehuma Inikas and Arano Kokkara fall at Okagaiken

While PL had the system in lockdown, I like to point out that despite the PL dominance (more then in Akkio!) other groups managed to nab their shares of the PLEX bounties. Mainly Gorgons managed to grab some for their own and even a small 6 man fleet managed to get a PLEX bounty for themselves! In short, a case of: stop complaining PL claims all, go out and do something about it!

Timing & having balls is crucial to claim your PLEX prize in a field dominated by PL however. So not for those who want it easy.

All in all, the organized fleets claimed the PLEX prizes in this event.

Many capsuleers, including yours truly got caught offguard

Now, had Goons bridged in a fleet capable of engaging PL instead of the Harpy fleet the whole event could have become something to remember. Instead it was a gank fest that will be forgotten quickly, with PL able to add to funds for a new Titan to replace another of those lost in B-R. Next stage of the event should see them hit the mark and start building; Come on Goons, do you really want to just -"give"- PL another titan?


- A little over 1000 in system, 527 kills, over 90% of which are destroyers or frigates. It seems those willing to "risk all" to attend these events are wising up and only taking cheap throw away ships.
Sort of says - Why bother trying, we know the outcome but will go to watch it happen.

NB; CCP if you want to run events in lowsec and have them at least "seem" to be something worth attending. Cyno jams, stop the well organised alliances simply dominating the field by titan bridging. I have no problem with PL, Goons, BL or any of the other major alliances attending the events but for goodness sake don't hand it to them on a plate.
They want to attend, let them fly in by gates, the same way everyone else has to get there. Leveling the playing field; if a group from highsec get into the system 1st and camp gates, make it so the big organised fleets have to risk something by having to jump through a gate to engage them not just use a titan to ensure best outcome.

Yes really.

Also, the Chimera had no damage on the killmail from any battlecruisers, so that prize will go unclaimed.

Yo let's real-talk here because you're a bit ill-informed, or just making **** up in hopes fewer people show up to the events so you have a better chance of getting that sweet sweet prize money.


PL has a history of showing up to Eve events regardless of the prize-pool. The last event in lowsec had a reward of a flag flying on CCP HQ, and we won that one pretty handily. Nobody in PL gives a **** about the PLEX, it's not a lot of money and the individuals that happen to win prizes just keep it for themselves. Brothers of Tangra, our renting alliance - the largest such alliance in Eve, rakes in of 2 Trillion isk a month. This event would equate to about three days of rental income.

If we wanted to win the PLEX prize, we'd show up with each class of ship to score damage, then cyno in supers to clear the caps off field in about 20 seconds. The event would be over after about 2 minutes, and local would probably get to about 150. That is obviously not the case, as the PL fleet (which was able to clear the field several times) never tried to kill the caps until the caps obviously turned off their hardeners and stopped repping. I imagine they probably wanted to go home.

Titan bridges. We live in BPK - some SEVEN titan bridges away from Okagaiken. I think CFC had to take 5 gates to get to Okagaiken and maybe 10 to Akkio. Nobody who showed up, not a single person, took Titan bridges. So you can scream "titan bridges" until your face turns blue, but it didn't happen (and it's actually really inefficient to take titan bridges across several regions, sorry to ruin the talking point).

At the end of the day we put 10 billion isk worth of ships on the field, supported by 9 logistics, and invited neutrals into our fleet so long as they followed our hilarious RP angle of saving the outlaw pilots. One of the neutrals actually scooped the corpse and seemingly had a jolly good time, and another one joined fleet and tried to tackle me for some reason. The rest were mostly in destroyers, interceptors, or stealth bombers that didn't do much of anything.

If you're a lone dude traveling to lowsec by yourself hoping to win 40 PLEX solo, then I've got some bad news for you. If you want to play the "boohoo PL are meanies" card, then that's fine but at least have the decency to come up with /good/ lies to spread.


#PRAZED
#PROVIST VICTOR

Attendance numbers would seem to confirm - people are not as interested in lowsec events as CCP would hope.

With over 1000 pilots in local for an hour, the stats you yourself quoted would beg to differ.

So just to confirm the prizes are awarded from damage on the killmail, and not what the ships may have done that disappeared from the mails? My Astarte met a rather untimely death in that case.

System peaked at just over 1000 - killboards updated to over 600 confirmed kills (in less than 15 mins) - average in space for the event was nowhere near 1000.
And certainly not 1000 pilots in system for 1 hour, unless you count wrecks in the total as pilots.

Interest waned quickly from here There is nothing "offguard" about knowing something is going to happen.
Try - many including yours truly were caught in the trap we thought may be there going on experience from the last event.

Yes, from the killmail. It looks like you switched ships in this case, so you showed up as an Apocalypse Navy Issue.