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RotatoR
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:36:00 -
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You can`t compare Vivox&CCP voice communication project to BF2 simply becouse BF2 uses data services free of charge and it works adequately.
If the communication will be managed by Vivox servers so sound quality will be better than ts/ventrilo and CCP will manage to integrate it into system without problems, I bet lots of player will start to use it.
Just let the CCP implement this feature and wait how it will work.
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Des'ra Lafil
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:39:00 -
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signed!!! why should anyone pay for VOIP? we have teamspeak for free! ______________________________________________ **** happens! |

Moghydin
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:42:00 -
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No idea why they had to develop a feature no one asked for, and sign the contract with some unknown $$$ hungry start up company that will develop a premium content software that already exists in free of charge form. Besides all that, VoIP can bring hordes of bugs and network bandwidth issues to the game. Waste of time and money IMHO.
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Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Des'ra Lafil signed!!! why should anyone pay for VOIP? we have teamspeak for free!
That is the big problem of the VOIP companys !! Thats why they need to convince game developpers to integrate the VOIP into their game, or noone would use it.
The game WILL FORCE you to use it. You will become inferion if you don't!!!!
CCP this is totaly against your mentality! At least used to be against it.... 
Next time you will say we have to pay "extra" for an expansion.. and the next thing you notice is there will be 2 otehr servers, and you train skills by killing NPCs ...  - POST WITH YOUR MAIN!
New sig coming soon...
This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the DICE Corporation. |

Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:45:00 -
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the deal is signed if the major aliacnes boy cott it in favour of teamspeak (id like to see a free teamspeak - Vent_ compatibiilty and for the major alliacnes to boycott it if it doesnt work. If forsome miracle it is made to work and it is fairly cheap (anything more than $2 extra a month will cause most ppl to ignore it)
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Obmud
Originally by: sidthesexist
No the service is not free. You will have to pay extra per month to use it.
no you don't get it. It's up to you wether you want to use it. And youre false information that its integrated is not true either.
No, you dont get it, the service wont be free. You will have to pay for it.
Sure you can choose not to use it, but the service itself isnt free.
And everything so far has said it will be intergrated.
oh and /signed.
Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
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Wotar
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:46:00 -
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Voice comms that shut down when the game shuts down = useless.
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:46:00 -
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teamspeak is bug free
voip isent
(no i dont have special powers giving me the ability to look in the futere but i can look in the past)
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Theseuss
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:48:00 -
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Signed, stick to Teamspeak or Ventrilo.
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Wotar Voice comms that shut down when the game shuts down = useless.
yea i want to hear them screaming when the server crashes 
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MachZERO
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:58:00 -
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Teamspeak is perfectly fine...
Why fix what isn't broken?
At the very least release 2 clients. One with the VoIP and another without it.
The beauty of choice.
And when no one downloads the VoIP thingy then it should serve as a huge sign that we collectively don't want it.
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Swethren
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:02:00 -
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I'm sorry guys, but you could at least have waited till you have some sort of... I dunno.. FACTS?!
How about being sure about the way it's gonna work, how much it is, how good it is, etc, etc, before you post things like this.
Not cool
Swethren
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Chakoth
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:04:00 -
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*Signed
Why would anyone pay for something that is free? Teamspeak and Ventrillo work just fine.
Instead of this spend time improving Eve. Like better sound effects and such.
"No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast." Shakespeare, Richard III |

MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:08:00 -
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I wouldn't mind, but charging us for it? I'm one of those cheap skates who isn't paying for a service like that.
This will end up impacting everyone since fleet ops will now have this as a requirement. -=====-
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:11:00 -
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It appears this is an optional service so 'not signed'. 
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |

sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:12:00 -
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Its simple really, everything a VOIP system can do teamspeak can do too.
As the interview says, you will be able to contact your squad commanders directly, thats possible with teamspeak, you just bind your keys to your fleet commanders or have channel commander talk binded and have all your commanders flagged with channel commander.
Teamspeak + Vent - Free VOIP - Not Free
Not a good move ccp :( ________ Euphoria Released
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=339452 |

sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Aodha Khan It appears this is an optional service so 'not signed'. 
Yes but every player has paid for it due to the fact the time spent on developing testing and integrating this VOIP could have been put to better use - reducing lag, improvments and so on. ________ Euphoria Released
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=339452 |

Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: sidthesexist
Originally by: Aodha Khan It appears this is an optional service so 'not signed'. 
Yes but every player has paid for it due to the fact the time spent on developing testing and integrating this VOIP could have been put to better use - reducing lag, improvments and so on.
True. But, I don't mine. Should I be starting a vote to stop all development on mining upgrades?
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |

HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor According to stratics, it will be free. But who knows...
and according to CCP it won't... who do you trust?
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Aodha Khan
Originally by: sidthesexist
Originally by: Aodha Khan It appears this is an optional service so 'not signed'. 
Yes but every player has paid for it due to the fact the time spent on developing testing and integrating this VOIP could have been put to better use - reducing lag, improvments and so on.
True. But, I don't mine. Should I be starting a vote to stop all development on mining upgrades?
No because tha majority of eve mine and a large majority are empire miners.
I can honestly say right now if things are as i think they are, very few people will pay for this. ________ Euphoria Released
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=339452 |

Flyyn
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:40:00 -
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I have not seen anything from CCP saying you will have to use VOIP and no other....
Matter of fact, people are telling me I MUST sign on to VENT. But CCP has'nt.
So with the introduction of VOIP how and why is it going to affect you? Or your game play?
It might make things more laggy for me, maybe it will maybe it wont. But I still wont use it.
Dont mind me I am just trying to catch up to DS and HK on the boards.... |

Eternal Fury
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: Eternal Fury on 18/05/2006 10:44:36 I've read through this post, and many others on the subject, but the thing is this.
Most of us don't want to pay for something that is going to cost almost twice per month what an existing hosted server costs.
these magical features that allow us to split into squads and allow us wing commanders and other nested chat chaneels.. Folks, these features are already in ventrilo.
For those who worry about lag, unless the VOIP/game software is coded badly, you shouldn't see a problem.
one draw back that MANY of us have posted about is the simple matter of if you can't log in, or don't log into Eve, you can't connect to the voip server. I chat on vent while browseing the forums, while failing at my attempt to learn to use photoshop, when I'm reading books, or when I'm sitting at my desk painting models, or working on my PC. I won't be able to do that with this new feature.
lag shouldn't be an issue as the voip servers will be 3rd party.
I would suggest also ssetting up a out of game ability to connect to the voip server. The problem with this, is you'd have to also be able to connect to the log on server. Is the log on server run from the same server as the game? or can they be upgraded/shutdown/daily downtime'd without the login server going down too?
I would HIGHLY suggest that CCP and this VOIP company give the eve player base a free month to try out this voip server, as many of us who are ****ed tht you guys are spending time on this and not on fixing the GOD DAMNED PETITION system. I mean seriously. I've YET to have a petition go in since I started playing in January.. sheesh..
I'd rather see support added for things like the logitech G15 Keyboard.
I hope you guys start releaseing some info on this soon..
ohh.. and are we going to pay CCP for this service, or are we going to be paying some company none of us know about?
how about a deal. 2 or more Eve Accounts, and you get free VOIP.. that would assauge MANY of the hurt feelings here. though it'd **** off those with only 1 account :)
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:43:00 -
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It's a feature that wasn't really asked for, they're going to spend allot of time developing it and it's pushing back the stuff we actually want.
Think a year back, small bug fix patches happened 2 weeks to a month apart. They had little events all the time and some really cool large scale events (remember the jove guy that exploded, colleecting parts). They released new ships without full scale expansions (stealth bombers, etc) and still put out full expansions with only a slight delay)
Their two biggest priorities seem to be the China server (support this 100% actually) and VOIP.
Fear the Ibis of doom! |

James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:46:00 -
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I see lots of posts saying 'TS is free'. I'm pretty sure that someone ends up paying for it, be it through the monsterous bandwidth it eats, or because they've got a hosted service somewhere else.
Or am I missing something?
My major concern is whilst TS/Vent may _not_ be free, it's possible for me to provide it, and then I can pester people to use it, without them giving the 'can't afford it' line. -- We are recruiting |

loony zoon
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:49:00 -
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SIGNED
The only reason for doing this is to develop another income stream. Waste of time and resources.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Aiyleena Iluvatar Stupids post ever!!!!!
oh delicious irony
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus I see lots of posts saying 'TS is free'. I'm pretty sure that someone ends up paying for it, be it through the monsterous bandwidth it eats, or because they've got a hosted service somewhere else.
Or am I missing something?
My major concern is whilst TS/Vent may _not_ be free, it's possible for me to provide it, and then I can pester people to use it, without them giving the 'can't afford it' line.
We host our TS from a friend's bedroom, and it works fine. Entirely free excluding his net connection, which he is going to have to have anyway to use the VOIP system.
My major gripes with this are:
Taking development time Will most likely need you to be logged in to use Premium Service
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Aiyleena Iluvatar
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:50:00 -
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Stupids post ever!!!!!
and once again it shows how hard it is for some ppl to even read more than a headline (or even read anything)
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Boonaki on 18/05/2006 10:53:09
Originally by: loony zoon SIGNED
The only reason for doing this is to develop another income stream. Waste of time and resources.
You don't know that, they may not make money off of this at all (I'm sure they will but still, don't know for a fact), the extra fee may just go to the service provider.
Fear the Ibis of doom! |

Taniya
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:53:00 -
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Without reliable information I'm not signing anything. So far all I've seen is people repeating eachother. I have not seen a reliable article with detailed information on what is being implemented and what it would cost.
Maybe they are going to charge 0.01 isk a month, maybe it's gonna show who is saying what in game. Maybe it will be a much better way to communicate with people that are not part of your corp alliance whatever.
And maybe they are going to charge $15 a week and it will just be a teamspeak client.
We just don't know.
So not signed.
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