I'm going say it's a drone.

Too small to be a fighter. Only 50 cubic meters.

So I just found this in heavy drones category! looks like a super drone with a 50mbit bandwidth requirement...Just search "Gecko" in the market...What do you guys think it is ?

screenie: http://i.imgur.com/fNT9nJD.jpg

It's not a combat drone, it's an advertising drone. You launch it and it tells you enemies about how they can save 15% on their car insurance in 15 minutes. Thus distracted by their greed, they won't notice when you warp off.

Or... the void in ship classes that CCP is talking about is a pocket carrier (i.e. battleship sized) that uses the Gecko super-drones.

pocket carrier

HI! MY NAME IS BRIAN!

I CAN SAVE YOU

POUNDS!

CON-FUSED DAT CAM!

SUDDENLY, JOVIANS

Or, given the billions of pirate lives lost daily by Pirate NPCS at the hands of capsuleers, the Pirates have finally decided to start using drone technology in earnest as a cost savings measure...

Or... the void in ship classes that CCP is talking about is a pocket carrier (i.e. battleship sized) that uses the Gecko super-drones.

SUDDENLY, JOVIANS

SUDDENLY BONJOVIANS!

judging by colour scheme, bandwidth size etc i would say this is made for the rattlesnake, im curious to see if we are going to find a new type of sentry drone being launched with similar superness

It seems like gecko is a super heavy attack drone,
ID showinfo:33681

It is a guristas drone so i think it will be available in guristas LP store.

It seems like gecko is a super heavy attack drone,
ID showinfo:33681

It is a guristas drone so i think it will be available in guristas LP store.

Also new ID's available:

33682 - Gecko Blueprint
33683 - Mackinaw ORE Development Edition
33684 - Mackinaw ORE Development Edition Blueprint
33685 - Orca ORE Development Edition
33686 - Orca ORE Development Edition Blueprint
33687 - Rorqual ORE Development Edition
33688 - Rorqual ORE Development Edition Blueprint
33689 - Iteron Inner Zone Shipping Edition
33690 - Iteron Inner Zone Shipping Edition Blueprint

It seems like gecko is a super heavy attack drone,
ID showinfo:33681

It is a guristas drone so i think it will be available in guristas LP store.

Also new ID's available:

33682 - Gecko Blueprint
33683 - Mackinaw ORE Development Edition
33684 - Mackinaw ORE Development Edition Blueprint
33685 - Orca ORE Development Edition
33686 - Orca ORE Development Edition Blueprint
33687 - Rorqual ORE Development Edition
33688 - Rorqual ORE Development Edition Blueprint
33689 - Iteron Inner Zone Shipping Edition
33690 - Iteron Inner Zone Shipping Edition Blueprint

All of those ID's have actually been in since the last big point release.

The stats are so unbalanced that it really should be in the CONCORD LP store. The real one, not the gift store that capsuleers use.

Also, since pretty much every "ship" type game is based on WWII ship classes, CCP has probably realized that a carrier sub-cap ship available to the masses (err pubbies) would be a hit.

Remember, you have to compare it to 1) TWO 2) NEW heavy drones. The Gecko has less hp and does less damage than two 'Augmented' Ogres, but it is a fair bit faster (as fast as the 'Augmented' Praetor).

So I just found this in heavy drones category! looks like a super drone with a 50mbit bandwidth requirement...Just search "Gecko" in the market...What do you guys think it is ?

screenie: http://i.imgur.com/fNT9nJD.jpg

So I just found this in heavy drones category! looks like a super drone with a 50mbit bandwidth requirement...Just search "Gecko" in the market...What do you guys think it is ?

screenie: http://i.imgur.com/fNT9nJD.jpg

Or, given how the Empires reverse engineered T3 cruisers (and Dust Bunnies) from Sleeper tech, the Sleepers have decided to show the Empires the proper way to build drones...

If not troll........

......Read the book "Templar One" Sleepers are pissed the **** off...mainly at Amarr for "Farming them and destroying their equilibrium" why would they give any tech to help any of the Empires?

Hell, the Jovian disease is a biological weapon designed by Sleepers to enslave the Jove. Hence why they're mostly dead...

I was implying that the Sleepers are going to use these super-drones against the Empires/Jove via the Guristas. Especially given how manipulative that sleeper super-AI thingie is.

description says "Heavy Attack Drone", require heavy drone operation as well.

hence I foresee that Heavy drone operation will get split into heavy and heavy attack drone skills.

Not to worry. All the heavy combat drones have "Heavy Attack Drone" in their descriptions.

Also, shut up before you give CCP any ideas.

Meerkats > Brian tbh

Also, since pretty much every "ship" type game is based on WWII ship classes

I am pretty sure a mini carrier using those babies would actually make parts of my body implode then explode in a nuclear reaction of unequivocal joy

Except if Battleships are battleships, then Marauders are dreadnoughts and Dreadnoughts are um....

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter launched by carriers.

Meerkats > Brian tbh

...
Either it's a work in progress/place holder, or CCP has lost their minds. Hopefully it's the latter.

Looks like a fighter with cockpit. Maybe it's for Valkyrie.

Edit: Checked Variations and it seems to be a faction Dragonfly.

I'm beginning to think the Gecko is "real" (i.e. hybrid fighter/drone.) The Giving Drones an Assist dev blog specifically mentions Guristas faction mods for drones. We have the Guristas super drones concept in the summer pirate ships overhaul. CCP Explorer just stated that Omni's moving to a 30 second cycle was for performance reasons. Then we have the "void" in ship classes. Etc.

So if CCP is overhauling and otherwise paying so much attention to Guristas and drones, we very well may see some kind of pirate sub-cap combat carrier based on "heavy drones" instead of current paradigm of RR capital carriers with fighters and/or sentries.

And I'll go out on a limb and say that if this "pocket carrier" is successful, they'll expand it to the Empires as one step along the road to "fixing" caps/super-caps.


Also, since pretty much every "ship" type game is based on WWII ship classes, CCP has probably realized that a carrier sub-cap ship available to the masses (err pubbies) would be a hit.

It's not a combat drone, it's an advertising drone. You launch it and it tells your enemies about how they can save 15% on their car insurance in 15 minutes. Thus distracted by their greed, they won't notice when you warp off.

Just announce the highsec carrier already with subsystem which make it either booster \ combat \ mining ship mod and call it T3 bs.

Then after I'll switch my pants due to excitement I'll get 3.

Free Geckos for everyone on Tuesday (EVE's birthday!) 3 per subscribed account.

OK, so according to in-game stats they're just short of 3x the dps of an ogre2, more than double the mwd speed, 33% higher orbit velocity, +50% the tracking, and a load more ehp.

Are they not getting included in some skill bonus (heavy?) to level out things a bit?

Also, since pretty much every "ship" type game is based on WWII ship classes, CCP has probably realized that a carrier sub-cap ship available to the masses (err pubbies) would be a hit.

They have double the size and bandwidth requirements then normal heavy drones. Isn't that enough? Since there are no subcaps with a bandwidth of 150, no ship below subcap can field more then 1-2 of them.

Well, if you take a 125 bandwidth ship, it could field two geckos and an ogre2, that's +34% more dps than five ogre2s. For ships with 50 or 100 bandwidth, eg rattlesnake or stratios, it's a straight +42% dps buff. Then you consider +50% tracking, it'll apply that dps to smaller targets vastly better. Double the speed and more ehp also effectively adds applied damage, by virtue of less travel time and more survivability.


None of this makes much sense, which makes me wonder what I'm missing.

The thing is probably meant as a fighter repacement for carriers and supers.

The thing is probably meant as a fighter repacement for carriers and supers.

Its just a birthday Promo, it ties into EVE Valkyrie.

Meerkats > Brian tbh

New BS released looking like a Mini carrier + Mini Fighter drone... Hmmmmm I wonder

Free Geckos for everyone on Tuesday (EVE's birthday!) 3 per subscribed account.

GECKO'S HAVE BEEN RELEASED! and they're ****** AWESOME! xD

THANK YOU CCP!

How long before all the Geckos are extinct from being left behind/shot at/reprocessed/trashed?

I intend to use mine in the rebalanced Rattlesnake, so it will have around forty thousand effective hitpoints.

You tell me.

LOL, Nothing like carrying around a cruiser in your pocket :p

Yep, stats haven't changed ..... they're insanely OP.

Use em with an Eos for a laugh, hullbonused for drone damage/tracking/mwd. They mwd around like light drones, with the tracking of mediums.

With their nice hps, battleships remote repping em might work really well in pve. Especially the new rattlesnake, only a single drone, easy to keep perma-locked for remote repping purposes.

Unless they add RR range bonus to the Rattle i hardly see how to do that in a usefull way...unless you mean using a logi of any kind...in wich case...just use another dps and use sentrys on the Rattle...

Just a reminder, any meaningfull PVE nowadays spawn at 50km+, most big stuff orbit at 20km+ even on L4s...and large RRs t2 have a range of...8km? 9?

Too bad, but the Barghest is a missile ship, like every Mordus-ship.

Edit:

And I'm OK with tthis.

Battleships bonused for drones:

Armageddon (Amarr)
Dominix (Gallente)
Rattlesnake (Faction)
Nestor (Faction)
Redeemer (Amarr)
Sin (Gallente)

Together: 6

Battleships bonused for missiles:

Raven (Caldari)
Navy Scorpion (Caldari)
1/2 of a Ratllesnake (Faction)
Widow (Caldari)
Typhoon (Minmatar)

Together: 4,5

If you take into account that the Navy Raven is just a Raven on steroids, you'll see there is a lot of space for another missile battleship. Especially one that isn't just another Caldari-version.

Have you seen how fast these Gecko's are?

Unless they add RR range bonus to the Rattle i hardly see how to do that in a usefull way...unless you mean using a logi of any kind...in wich case...just use another dps and use sentrys on the Rattle...

Just a reminder, any meaningfull PVE nowadays spawn at 50km+, most big stuff orbit at 20km+ even on L4s...and large RRs t2 have a range of...8km? 9?

you could always team up with a Nestor

On another note, real world Geckos can climb anything except teflon, whats with that ?

Can I put this on a Tristan?
Is it worth it? :/

They make a good fit for battleships with 75 drone bay and 50 bandwidth. One Gecko for giggles and one flight of light drones for work. Then again, a pair of sentry drones would probably work better, at least in PvE.

It has the Firefly (fighter) as a variation. The stats appear to be a mix of fighter and heavy drone (more heavy drone than fighter though.)

The stats on it are obnoxious (32 damage of all 4 damage types (that's 4x32) plus a 2.05 damage modifier. Max velocity of 1,820 m/s, 1,010 shield HP, 0.53 tracking... edit: Volume of 50m^3.


Either it's a work in progress/place holder, or CCP has lost their minds. Hopefully it's the latter.

sold them all yesterday and felt like I left someone holding a 1.5 B bucket of ****

they continued dropping by the minute and now CCP Falcon says we'll get more

gg

How did you get them yesterday?

the redeeming system?

sorry, it was "today"... 12 hours ago.

"yesterday" for me/ in the US

http://i.imgur.com/5z6cJ5W.jpg

dropped by the minute, sold straight to buy orders.

If I resub now would I still get the 3 drones as a gift?

Has anybody else noticed these guys fly with personality? They perform lots of barrel rolls and other evasives :) I've moved mine to the drone group "Mercenary"

Obvious tie in to Valkryie.

Maybe one day, you can carry a pilot around in your bay, then launch him and he can go fly around and then dock with your ship.

Oooo.

Can some one post all the base stats for the gecko?

http://www.evemanufacturing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/gecko-stats1.png

http://www.evemanufacturing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/gecko-stats2.png

http://www.evemanufacturing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/gecko-stats3.png

Note: If the proposed new rattlesnake 3.75 damage and HP role bonus is allowed to apply to the gecko its going to make an amazing brawler combo.

It will. I forget where I heard/read it but CCP directly mentioned the gecko and RS making a beautiful lovechild.

http://www.evemanufacturing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/gecko-stats1.png

http://www.evemanufacturing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/gecko-stats2.png

http://www.evemanufacturing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/gecko-stats3.png

Note: If the proposed new rattlesnake 3.75 damage and HP role bonus is allowed to apply to the gecko its going to make an amazing brawler combo.

Rattlesnake will only have 50 mbps bandwidth so it can only launch one Gecko.
Although one Gecko plus 275% HP and DPS still pretty nasty.

Cant wait. Cause there is the added bonus. If you mwd your rattler so you can keep up with the drone. You can keep a rep on it while still being close for rhml/torp dps.

Cant wait. Cause there is the added bonus. If you mwd your rattler so you can keep up with the drone. You can keep a rep on it while still being close for rhml/torp dps.

The Gecko can move atleast 2200 ms, good luck trying to keep up with it in a rattlesnake.

Quick someone make a fit.

I imagine faction Damage Augments for starters, faction Drone Nav Computer and omni.

Hey there's a little dude in these things.

Mine call themselves Atos, Portos and Aramis. Strange names if you ask me, I think I have heard them before...

No, no , its Atos and Portos. Why would you throw h there?

Why? Because I interpreted your statement "I think I have heard them before" as an allusion to Alexander Dumas' The Three Musketeers. In that novel, the main character names are Athos, Porthos, and Aramis (along with the d'Artagnan). Is this not the reference you intended?

MDD

[quote=Marzuq]

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And before or the fanboi's come raging in about the massive HP buff drones will get
Drones are still highly vulnerable to webbing & smartbombs now, and they will be afterwards as well
guns/missiles ... not so much

It's still short-sighted with regards to DPS distribution from the rattlesnake

Drone DPS
Pre-Kronos - 20% per drone
Post-Kronos - 50% per drone
post-kronos Gecko - 100%


And before or the fanboi's come raging in about the massive HP buff drones will get
Drones are still highly vulnerable to webbing & smartbombs now, and they will be afterwards as well
guns/missiles ... not so much

I know this has been done from a purely pvp based aspect .. because 'server loads'
CCP can coat it with as much sugar as they like
as changes go it's still a turd.

Webs, maybe, provided they have another to slap on you to stop you from webbing them in a brawl fit. If you're running a range fit then you still have roughly 800DPS coming from missiles so frigates (and Sansha ships because faster than MWD speed with no sig bloom) may be a problem but others not as bad as you make it out to be.

Smartbombing a RattleGecko on the other hand.... Will take around 156(132 w/heat) seconds with full rack of Large tech2 so that's not exactly the easiest thing to do in the world. The super drone thing really does remove that weakness from drones in it's entirety

NOTE: This is assuming that Gecko receives the buffs to base damage along with the other heavies in Kronos to balance the change to Drone interfacing.

Rattlesnake bonus come Kronos is +275% which is a x3.75 multiplier not a x2.75. The base Rattlesnake Gecko DPS is therefore 615 with 2460 alpha.
Assuming Faction DDAs are 25% each we get a stacking bonus that comes to roughly 1.86 with 4 of them. This puts the rough DPS at 1143.9 with alpha of 4575.6 with 4 faction DDAs.
EHP with Drone Durability Rigs (1xT2 and 2xT1) is 49,400 average with around 20 shield HP/s


If they don't get the damage increase then it works out to 461DPS base and 861DPS with 4 faction DDAs. EHP remains the same. For comparison 2x Ogre 2 will have more dps than a Gecko due to benefiting from T2 skill bonus.

Because this is a HUUUGE difference I would love confirmation one way or the other from CCP because Launching a cruiser from within a battleship seems bonkers fun.

You have to name them now.

Her, not him.

I name her My Muse and Inspiration....

Now that's something I haven't seen in a long, long time.

One of the devs confirmed on twitter that the Gecko's stats will not be changing in Kronos.

Looks more like a dragonfly to me

Its a joke from a long long time ago about a thread that was made asking what kind of drone this was. People posted a ridiculous amount of copy posts of That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter launched by carriers for pages.

http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=486081

One of the devs confirmed on twitter that the Gecko's stats will not be changing in Kronos.

Mine call themselves Atos, Portos and Aramis. Strange names if you ask me, I think I have heard them before...

Those are names of the Three Musketeers

I have just briefly looked through this thread so I may easily have missed some important points.
I was just thinking about the Gecko-class drone and the idea that has been presented uncountable times, the escort carrier. I guess an Escort carrier would be a subcap ship and would not be able to use real fighters.
The idea I was thinking of (I do not know whether this has already been presented): What if an Escort carrier was given a role bonus to the use of Gecko-class drones so that it could field 5 of those drones with 125 mbit bandwidth, i.e. a reduction in the by 50% for the use of Gecko-class drones. This would also ensure that if using other drones it could still only max field 5 x heavy/sentry drones.
Of course this will probably only be relevant if the Gecko-class drone can be replenished one way or the other and/or if we will see other similar drones (i,e, the Gecko is merely the first one).
Anyway, this was just my thoughts - if this is irrelevant, please disregard it.

So I just found this in heavy drones category! looks like a super drone with a 50mbit bandwidth requirement...Just search "Gecko" in the market...What do you guys think it is ?

screenie: http://i.imgur.com/fNT9nJD.jpg

I take it you are new here. The Gecko was introduced a little while back by ccp due to its size and its bandwidth that CCP thought was a good idea so that you cant run around with ogres in a vexor and eat people. The gecko is a finite resource which means there is as much of them as players (mains and alt accounts) managed to redeem. Seeing their usefulness drone users quickly flock to them and end up eventually using them by ship destruction or sending their Geckos out to fight unattended and to their deaths and even the abandonment of these geckos. This has been seen as inhumane actions and i am starting a reserve for Geckos where they can live out their drone lives peacefully with out the fear of destruction and neglect.

STG: Save The Geckos!

173 is my special number.

It's my height in cm.
It's the 40th prime number.
It's the amount of days from 1st of January to my birthday in a leapyear.

When's my birthday?

173 is my special number.

It's my height in cm.
It's the 40th prime number.
It's the amount of days from 1st of January to my birthday in a leapyear.

When's my birthday?

June 21st... If you're counting 1st January

What did I win

Mount Rushmore

173 is my special number.

It's my height in cm.
It's the 40th prime number.
It's the amount of days from 1st of January to my birthday in a leapyear.

When's my birthday?

Except if Battleships are battleships, then Marauders are dreadnoughts and Dreadnoughts are um....

Juggernaughts