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Shurgin Ambraelle
The Flying Dead Bloodline.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:27:00 -
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digi wrote:Can someone confirm timestamps between the Tweet and the start of this thread? It looks like 7 minutes to me but I could be wrong.
It was close. The Facebook thread was first I believe -The Gene Pool Could Use a Little Chlorine!! Proud Member of the Flying Dead/Bloodline
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:57:00 -
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I again had to remove some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. Please people, keep it civil. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
443
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Posted - 2014.05.05 23:10:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: What the ****, man?
After the whole thing with Erotica, it surprises you that you might have actual sociopaths among you?
Eve has had in game behaviors like this for years. They actively encourage it. But the idea that players might act out on it in real life shocks you?
History time, kiddies.
Goons (and not just those in 'goon swarm', but the entire extended goon family all the way back to Something Awful) have been dancing with the possibility of real world repercussions for years. Hell, your illustrious founder has received more death threats than Fidel Castro.
To be honest, the fact that more of you have not suffered some sort of real world repercussions, especially those foolish enough to have had their real names and faces published, is surprising. Particularly with things like the time the Second Life branch of goons, for example, had the delightful sense of taste to create an entire replica of the burning World Trade Center towers, complete with falling bodies, according to Wired.
Do you think that sort of Karma does not eventually come back around to bite you, somehow? |

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
2809
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Posted - 2014.05.05 23:13:00 -
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Amarr Citizen 1312151005 wrote:We all know lots of players in EVE are jerks in game. Over the past five years I would find my self asking how much of it do they carry outside the game? https://twitter.com/The_Real_Gevlon/status/463002069989736448I think this pretty much sums it up. vandalizing the monument is way overboard. These are "adults" doing this really pretty sad. I think if it is found out who the player(s) are they are vandalizing the monument the related EVE accounts should be perma ban. And as well as punished based on the countries laws of vandalism. Poor taste.
Xenuria Alt spotted. |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
373
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Posted - 2014.05.05 23:32:00 -
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Wow...this is about as low as you can sink. In game I hate tons of people, corps, and alliances; however, out of game, I really dont have a passionate hate for them. I consider eve real, but this goes beyond the spirit of the game. Yes, kill and blow someone elses stuff up in game, steal it, make them cry, but when it comes to RL...thats crossing the line.
I hope CCP can get that name repaired on the monument, everyone deserves to have their name there. I agree with the sentiment of others though, if found responsible who ever did this should be perma-banned. If you can not respect the community out of game, then this obviously is not a game for you. |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 23:53:00 -
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As to who did this?
it was ISD Ezwal in the bonus room with mayonnaise.
Just saying, the truth should not be swept under the carpet by forum moderation. Concord Approved Trader |

DHuncan
Minerva Group
13
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Posted - 2014.05.05 23:53:00 -
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Why are you so surprised? EvE is above all a deep game. Yet 80% of the players never will know as they are only able to see they can grief and seek victory in 'colecting tears'. Tears are not a value in market, not betters your dps, nor... anything at all in game. It affects the feelings of the other persone who feels grieved, sometimes a lot.
I know so many times this has being discused and even fought. But the point here is not in game but irl, the kind op people is playing EvE and why are they attracted to it.
I started playing in 2008 and I have seen this game getting worse and worse at the player base no matter the tremendous efforts from CCP to create an incredible scy-fi universe for us to inhabit, conquer, warfare or the miriad of activities possible only here.
Nope, I am not surprised at all because of what this subnormals did to the monument. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=41496&find=unread
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Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
364
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Posted - 2014.05.05 23:55:00 -
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One way or the other, we need to try and keep the monument intact. Someday, it may be found by an advanced species. EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:15:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:All I can say is look at your fellow players, and tell me with a straight face you are surprised one of them did this? I'm more than surprised, I'm shocked.
I hope CCP come down on the person who did it like a ton of bricks, from a very great height.
Never go full Ripard |

Rainbow Dash
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
115
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:19:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:Why are you so surprised? EvE is above all a deep game. Yet 80% of the players never will know as they are only able to see they can grief and seek victory in 'colecting tears'. Tears are not a value in market, not betters your dps, nor... anything at all in game. It affects the feelings of the other persone who feels grieved, sometimes a lot.
I know so many times this has being discused and even fought. But the point here is not in game but irl, the kind op people is playing EvE and why are they attracted to it.
I started playing in 2008 and I have seen this game getting worse and worse at the player base no matter the tremendous efforts from CCP to create an incredible scy-fi universe for us to inhabit, conquer, warfare or the miriad of activities possible only here.
Nope, I am not surprised at all because of what this subnormals did to the monument.
You clearly have never been to a player gathering if you think this is what the eve fanbase is like. |
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Astenion
The Scope Gallente Federation
377
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:22:00 -
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Ha! I love The Mittani's voiced disgust on that Twitter post, because we all know he's a man of such high moral fiber.
Yes, it's vandalism. No, it shouldn't have happened. Yes, it's a **** move.
Any word on how much that real life e-peen monument cost to build? Like someone said before, it's a monument to a bank account dressed up as an homage to players. Personally, I'd rather have WiS and new shiny ships than a monument. I'm sure some people let go after that 20 million euro loss would rather have jobs, too.
The point is that the focus here should be the fact that an Eve player committed an act of vandalism at Fanfest, not that an Eve player committed an act of vandalism on a phallic e-peen video game monument. All these comments like, "Oh, you're such a horrible person" and "You should be beaten severely" are just as ridiculous. Get over yourselves and your bleeding hearts. Someone scratched someone's name out on a chunk of metal, and while it's rude, classless, and petty, people are rude, classless, and petty every single day. Go to any major city and see graffiti ruining facades of historic, MEANINGFUL landmarks and cultural treasures. It's a travesty.
This is not. This is a crime, and should be dealt with as such. People have made other people literally cry in Eve, yet we all love "the tears". Scratch someone's name on a monument, post it on Twitter, and people will actually call you the famous German dictator. Go ahead...check it out...it's in the comment section of the Twitter post.
Let's get this straight: it's fine to torment people in-game to the point of tears or extreme bouts of rage, yet scratch someone's name out on a monument (again, it's a crime...but you're treating it as a crime against humanity) and all of a sudden you're outraged and all take the moral high ground.
Got it. |

JC Anderson
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1080
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:31:00 -
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Astenion wrote:
Any word on how much that real life e-peen monument cost to build?
The build cost isn't the half of it.
They hired Sigurdur Gudmundsson to create it, and he isn't just some unknown nobody of an artist. I don't even want to try and guesstimate how much they had to pay him. |

NEONOVUS
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
839
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:53:00 -
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Lets add another bit During pub crawl I tried to snag one of the sweet polar beer hats (seriously did you guys tack weld those things to your skulls?) I ended up gettng my arm jammed out of socket, a submission hold, some one trying to choke me in a restraint, a rather sizable bruise on my arm and a shaved knuckle
I ended up being tracked down and apologized to by the hat defenders the next day.
So here is something that by all rights they acted as they should in defending their leader's hat and they came and managed to find and apologize to me.
And you say its normal to deface property from this?
Incidentally the airplane seats did more damage and I am currently restricted in how my back moves due to that zero g harnesses when?
Oh and the punch to the head QI got when I started switching peoples hats when they went for the flags
I think I have a thing for hats when I drink Still beat most of you though with the not having a hangover bit despite drinking more tequila than you |

DHuncan
Minerva Group
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:59:00 -
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Rainbow Dash wrote:DHuncan wrote:Why are you so surprised? EvE is above all a deep game. Yet 80% of the players never will know as they are only able to see they can grief and seek victory in 'colecting tears'. Tears are not a value in market, not betters your dps, nor... anything at all in game. It affects the feelings of the other persone who feels grieved, sometimes a lot.
I know so many times this has being discused and even fought. But the point here is not in game but irl, the kind op people is playing EvE and why are they attracted to it.
I started playing in 2008 and I have seen this game getting worse and worse at the player base no matter the tremendous efforts from CCP to create an incredible scy-fi universe for us to inhabit, conquer, warfare or the miriad of activities possible only here.
Nope, I am not surprised at all because of what this subnormals did to the monument. You clearly have never been to a player gathering if you think this is what the eve fanbase is like.
No, I have not and I am aiming only to who I am aiming. Mybe there is only a 10% of those then? Ok, no problem, I take it back. I dont mean missrespect to the player base as a whole. But still too many to (almost) ruin what I consider a wonderfull creation. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=41496&find=unread
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Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
84
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Posted - 2014.05.06 01:18:00 -
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I could not care less about this, but am enjoying reading about how much you people do as I pet my dog. |

Xenuria
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
845
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Posted - 2014.05.06 01:18:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:Lets add another bit During pub crawl I tried to snag one of the sweet polar beer hats (seriously did you guys tack weld those things to your skulls?) I ended up gettng my arm jammed out of socket, a submission hold, some one trying to choke me in a restraint, a rather sizable bruise on my arm and a shaved knuckle
I ended up being tracked down and apologized to by the hat defenders the next day.
So here is something that by all rights they acted as they should in defending their leader's hat and they came and managed to find and apologize to me.
And you say its normal to deface property from this?
Incidentally the airplane seats did more damage and I am currently restricted in how my back moves due to that zero g harnesses when?
Oh and the punch to the head QI got when I started switching peoples hats when they went for the flags
I think I have a thing for hats when I drink Still beat most of you though with the not having a hangover bit despite drinking more tequila than you
Yes.... those airplane seats.
I am 6'4" and have a very high sensitivity to pain, those cramped in seats where not fun. On the way back I got special seating that gave me the leg room I needed to not feel like I was being shipped as a product. I remember seeing Le Mittani Face on the plane. I said hi to him and mentioned that I was comfortable in the new seats. He gave an awkward smile and turn around facing his back to me. He does that sometimes, lol... CSM 9 Candidate Philanthropist Polymath Savant Hero |

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2014.05.06 01:21:00 -
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Visited the monument at about 6PM on the 5th to find my name and there's a bunch of scratches around it ( http://media.fyre.co/fTAYkHPlTqk6TfYP2bjL_nyphur.jpg ). It looks accidental though and it'll probably buff out, I'm just annoyed at myself for not getting a photo earlier before it was scratched up. How hard is it to scratch anodized aluminium? |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5371
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Posted - 2014.05.06 01:25:00 -
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Nyphur wrote:How hard is it to scratch anodized aluminium?
What you did there, Doc sees it.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Xenuria
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
845
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Posted - 2014.05.06 01:25:00 -
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Nyphur wrote:Visited the monument at about 6PM on the 5th to find my name and there's a bunch of scratches around it ( http://media.fyre.co/fTAYkHPlTqk6TfYP2bjL_nyphur.jpg ). It looks accidental though and it'll probably buff out, I'm just annoyed at myself for not getting a photo earlier before it was scratched up. How hard is it to scratch anodized aluminium?
Why are people so careless?
If I had attended I would have made it a point to bring a towel with me if I planned on sitting on the base. This way nothing on my person would damage said base. This is common sense to me but I guess I could see how it might not be to others. There needs to be something to better protect the monument from these kinds of abrasions. I am not wise when it comes to metals, except that I am pretty good at Eco-locating them in the dark. CSM 9 Candidate Philanthropist Polymath Savant Hero |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
374
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Posted - 2014.05.06 01:42:00 -
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Astenion wrote:Ha! I love The Mittani's voiced disgust on that Twitter post, because we all know he's a man of such high moral fiber.
Yes, it's vandalism. No, it shouldn't have happened. Yes, it's a **** move.
Any word on how much that real life e-peen monument cost to build? Like someone said before, it's a monument to a bank account dressed up as an homage to players. Personally, I'd rather have WiS and new shiny ships than a monument. I'm sure some people let go after that 20 million euro loss would rather have jobs, too.
The point is that the focus here should be the fact that an Eve player committed an act of vandalism at Fanfest, not that an Eve player committed an act of vandalism on a phallic e-peen video game monument. All these comments like, "Oh, you're such a horrible person" and "You should be beaten severely" are just as ridiculous. Get over yourselves and your bleeding hearts. Someone scratched someone's name out on a chunk of metal, and while it's rude, classless, and petty, people are rude, classless, and petty every single day. Go to any major city and see graffiti ruining facades of historic, MEANINGFUL landmarks and cultural treasures. It's a travesty.
This is not. This is a crime, and should be dealt with as such. People have made other people literally cry in Eve, yet we all love "the tears". Scratch someone's name on a monument, post it on Twitter, and people will actually call you the famous German dictator. Go ahead...check it out...it's in the comment section of the Twitter post.
Let's get this straight: it's fine to torment people in-game to the point of tears or extreme bouts of rage, yet scratch someone's name out on a monument (again, it's a crime...but you're treating it as a crime against humanity) and all of a sudden you're outraged and all take the moral high ground.
Got it.
Let CCP clean it up and charge the guy who did it. Everyone else should save their ever-present outrage and go blow up more spaceships. "It's just the internet" doesn't apply anymore. Being a **** is being a ****, wherever you are.
What defines a MEANINGFUL landmark is relative to how the person feels about it. For example, I may not give two ***** about the Statue of Liberty, but some one else may see it in a more personally meaningful way. It isn't my place or anyone else to say otherwise. We all take different landmarks and monuments differently than others.
Yes it is a crime, but to the people who this monument commemorates its is indeed an insult to their accomplishments. As said, it isn't for you to define if this is indeed meaningful or not, and if it really bothers you that much that others do, then the solution seems quite simple...ignore it.
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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
444
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Posted - 2014.05.06 01:59:00 -
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Octoven wrote:
What defines a MEANINGFUL landmark is relative to how the person feels about it. For example, I may not give two ***** about the Statue of Liberty, but some one else may see it in a more personally meaningful way. It isn't my place or anyone else to say otherwise. We all take different landmarks and monuments differently than others.
Yes it is a crime, but to the people who this monument commemorates its is indeed an insult to their accomplishments. As said, it isn't for you to define if this is indeed meaningful or not, and if it really bothers you that much that others do, then the solution seems quite simple...ignore it.
Can you imagine if someone really did serious damage to it? Not just scratched it, blew it sky high. I can see the headlines:
'Eve Monument Ganked, Greifer tells CCP/Judge 'HTFU'.' |

Sushi Nardieu
Collapsed Out Shadow Cartel
247
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:06:00 -
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I am disgusted by this behavior from this vandal.
Wish CCP a swift resolution to this case. The Guns of Knowledge-á |

Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
875
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:08:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote: Can you imagine if someone really did serious damage to it? Not just scratched it, blew it sky high. I can see the headlines:
'Eve Monument Ganked, Greifer tells CCP/Judge 'HTFU'.'
Scratching a monument is *just like* a terrorist attack.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |

LiKuei
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:28:00 -
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Someone added content to the monument> COOL!!!! It is an object, nobody actually got hurt. HTFU all you White Knights saying someone committed a crime. Really ... WOW ... HTFU!!!!! |

Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
445
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:07:00 -
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Rhes wrote: Scratching a monument is *just like* a terrorist attack.
I wrote a lengthy thing about how you were wrong, but realized ISD would freak with that much explosives information on the forums.
In an nutshell, the sort of thing a terrorist would use wouldn't have much effect on it, it would take specialized equipment. Iceland being what it is, there's not a whole lot of explosives and their precursors floating around. |

NEONOVUS
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
839
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:09:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Rhes wrote: Scratching a monument is *just like* a terrorist attack.
I wrote a lengthy thing about how you were wrong, but realized ISD would freak with that much explosives information on the forums. In an nutshell, the sort of thing a terrorist would use wouldn't have much effect on it, it would take specialized equipment. Iceland being what it is, there's not a whole lot of explosives and their precursors floating around. I saw a tacobell, thats enough Also arent there plenty of fermenting foods? What if the monument is over a forgotten shark? |

Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
3605
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:14:00 -
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Nyphur wrote:How hard is it to scratch anodized aluminium?
Not hard at all. Aluminium is a very soft material - it's about a 3 on the Mohs scale - you can cut it with kitchen scissors. Aluminium oxide is much harder at about 8.5-9 Mohs, but it's a thin layer anchored in unoxidized aluminium, which will give way more easily. Meanwhile, The stainless steel keys pretty much everybody carries in their pocket on the other hand are more like a 5 or 6. the same goes for the rivets in your jeans, your nickel-steel belt buckle, or heck a common piece of grit or gravel stuck in your shoe.
So, anodized Aluminium wasn't chosen for its hardness: it was chosen for its corrosion-resistance. Iceland is a wet country and freezing cold a lot of the time. Also, the monument is parked right next to the ocean and there is NOTHING quite like salt water for reliably corroding things. Rust is a landscape feature where the sea is involved.
A few scuffs and abrasions won't badly reduce the legibility of the names, but corroding away into a mess of mineral salts and oxides would ruin all the plates, and surprisingly fast.
While there probably IS something out there that could resist both the salt-water splashing of a high tide in bad weather AND the clothing of people closely inspecting the monument (or of idiots who think their internet spaceships vendetta is worth vandalising a public monument for), I doubt that substance is inexpensive.
Although it would be kind of fitting to have made the plates out of Titanium Diboride just like a Caldari ship, I guess. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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LiKuei
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:21:00 -
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Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:22:00 -
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Here's another idea as well.
CCP, would it be possible to have a Digital version of the Monument INSIDE OF EVE? One that can't be locked or shot at for people in game to come visit since we can't come to Iceland? |

Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
445
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:47:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote: I saw a tacobell, thats enough Also arent there plenty of fermenting foods? What if the monument is over a forgotten shark?
That would be terrorism. That'd definitely be classed as a biological attack.
In all seriousness, not really. It'd take something with some penetrating power. |
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