Originally by: Kardim

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cruiser fits

moa w/ 4x 250 rail 2's and 2x heavy launchers
81.7% cpu to fit
153.86% pg to fit and a 3.63% cap/volley

rupture w/ 4x 720 howi 2's and 2x heavy 2's
86.54% cpu to fit
180.54% pg to fit 0 cap/volley

thorax w/ 5x 250 rail 2's and a 6x 250 rail 2's (comparison only)
5x 73.33% cpu to fit
168.57% pg to fit w/ 4.54 cap/volley
6x 88% cpu to fit
202.28 pg to fit w/ 5.45% cap/volley

maller w/ 5x heavy beam 2's and 6x heavy beam 2's (comparison only)
5x 61.66% cpu to fit
161.76% pg to fit and 9.02% cap/volley
6x 74% cpu to fit
194.11% pg to fit and 10.83% cap/volley

here the thorax is tighter to fit than maller, but overall fitings, cap usage, and supposed dmg+tanker all taken into factor seems quite a good bit off.. tho thorax looks to suffer also as intended for use w/ mwd.

battleships gets sticky w/ setups... because there are far more ways to do so especially raven and tempest i tried to keep it simple accross the board w/ 6 main weapons then 2 alternate

raven w/ 6x siege 2's and 2x 425 rail 2's
97% cpu to fit
171.34% pg to fit 1.41% cap/volley

tempest w/ 6x 1400 howi 2's and 2x siege 2's
83.27% cpu to fit
162.10 pg to fit

megathron w/ 6x 425 rail 2's and 2x siege 2's
116% cpu to fit
125% pg to fit and 4% cap/volley

apoc w/ 6x mega beams 2's and 2x siege 2's
104.8% cpu to fit
128.85 pg to fit and 8.12% cap/volley

then apoc w/ 8x mega beam 2's
92.8% cpu to fit
146.66% pg to fit and 10.83% cap/volley

now apoc w/ 6x tach 2's and 2x siege 2's
110.8% cpu to fit
145.77% pg to fit and 11.87% cap/volley

finally apoc w/ 8x tach 2's as god intended
100.8% cpu to fit
169.23% pg to fit and using 15.83% cap/volley

and the only ship that seems to have a bit higher fit than the poc w/ tach is the raven.. but nobody really puts 425's w/ their launchers cause missles wtf pwn anything anyways... i wont start on how many ppl use the raven as their sole ship ....

just thought id put the numbers up of % of grid it takes to fit ships to give ppl a better idea what they speak (:

fittings vs dmg vs cap sucks... we maybe dont need a complete redo of amarr (tho i think that would be best) but atleast a little massaging of stats etc would make it usable again... frig class guns need whole redo tho (:

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Originally by: Tel Bakhara

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Dunno how many Amarr pilots are fitting non-laser weapons, Guess tis 1/4...Grrr

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Originally by: Aramendel

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Er... 2 + 2 + 2 = 8?

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Originally by: The ArchWarder

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I dont see any reason why they cant just swap the EM and Therm dammage around so that lasers to more Therm dammage than EM.

Dont say nething about racial dammage either, just look at gallente and their kin dammage, minmitar with their (all) dammage and caldari with their (all) dammage.

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Originally by: F'nog

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This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.

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Originally by: Rockbox

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14 pages and no Devs. I think they are off flying thier Blasterthrons and Domis around

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Originally by: Tamora

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its not the skills that make the eve
player... its the smack that back him up

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Originally by: Spartan239

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Originally by: Rockbox

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14 pages and no Devs. I think they are off flying thier Blasterthrons and Domis around

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Originally by: Methuselar

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That's what make Amarr sux since Amarrians are mostly pure gunners.

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Originally by: Methuselar

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Most Drone bonus apply to all size of drones

Most missiles bonus apply to all size of missiles

While gun bonus only apply to one size-small,med or large.

That's what make Amarr sux since Amarrians are mostly pure gunners.

If, all Amarr ship's laser bonus would apply to ALL size of lasers, that will make great difference!

lower sized gun + oversized amor/prop are very popular among Amarrs.

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Originally by: General Apocalypse

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To all those that whant 2 do something about our lasers that suck 90 % of the time . We first need to keep out those stupid forum *****s that ruin our topics just cuz they think their race shoud rule .
Amarr need the falowing improvments:

1. A new type of damage as lasers are very predictable. And even ferox shield tankers can tank an Armageddon
2. Pulse lasers need a better range. There range need to be boosted whit about 25% of their current range.
3. Lasers need a improvment in traking or Amarr ships will be forced to give up e-war slots for traking computers even if they're not sniping.
4. The dev's are not going to swap EM damage for thermal as EM damage is Amarr racial damage.
The dev's will boost the lasers only if we all agree on several points points and suport this changes.

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Originally by: Methuselar

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Most Drone bonus apply to all size of drones

Most missiles bonus apply to all size of missiles

If, all Amarr ship's laser bonus would apply to ALL size of lasers, that will make great difference!

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Originally by: F'nog

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This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.

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Originally by: Xendie

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with tux's new idea of prolonging combat im miffed on how he thinks of doing that.
if dmg is lowered across the board any other BS will be able to tank the amarr until they run out of cap wich no other race will do to the same extent.
if resistances is increased across the board then amarr is screwed again due to the high resists of their main dmg type EM.
if armor and shields are increased then its the same as armor got a huge resist to EM and its not so hard to get pretty good EM resist on shields either nowadays.
and any combination of these will even further screw up amarr.

i fail to see how the Devs are thinking.

can we get the old "ship balancer" dev back pls?

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Originally by: Letifer Deus

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1) Yeah, and hybrid charges aren't predictable...

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