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Godar Marak
Amarr
Return Of Red Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.22 11:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Crimsonjade
i can wtf own at close range
Close range = ca.0-8000m. So I take it you use autocannosn or something to 'wtf own' at close range?
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Mila Prestoc
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Posted - 2006.10.22 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie
its not a personal attack, its a astute observation on your behaviour on these forums.
you rarely if ever have anything to back up any claims you spout out.
your favourite pasttime on these forums is to stalk welsh wizard and the rest of celest and smacktalk with little to no real content in your posts.
you have shown that you are nothing better then a incompetent troll at these forums.
we are atleast trying to get people to open their eyes about the lack of skill that tuxford has at doing his job.
he has publically let it be known that he knows nothing of how amarr ships and weapons work, he has publically admitted to ever have used a amarr ship.
that amarr part is around 25% of the game wich he so conveniently ignored.
if you had a job wich i doubt you have you would be fired in a heartbeat if you refused to learn 25% of the job you have to know.
Astute observation depends on your point of view, a personal opinion if you would. Hence if it attacks someone, it is indeed a personal attack.
"if you had a job wich i doubt you have..." That is a clear personal attack.
Since you refer to jobs, you should know "time doesn't grow on trees", he has recognized some issues (specifically EANM) so will no doubt get around to them when he has time in his schedule. Just because that schedule doesn't meet with "DO IT NOW COS WE MADE A HUGE THREAD!" doesn't make it more important than anything else in EVE.
CCP communicate with playerbase more than other games, so when they say something everyone has an opinion jumps in. Main problem is that communication should either be all or nothing, instead we get little notes which leaves a lot of unanswered questions.
Maybe its Amarr players in the office telling him, "Well I don't have a big problem with them", so he takes his professional workmate's opinion over unknown peoples, usually over the top dramatic complaints.
Amarr were kings for a time, at least they have had that...
Appart from that, "if you got nothing nice to say..... don't say anything at all".
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Originally by: "Lord Violent"
EvE is slowly becoming a game for the stupid, catered to by devs as they lack ability to kill/survive anything.
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Crimsonjade
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.22 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Godar Marak
Originally by: Crimsonjade
i can wtf own at close range
Close range = ca.0-8000m. So I take it you use autocannosn or something to 'wtf own' at close range?
t2 drones :P but to me i was talking about BS's and for amarr to get within 20km is a little crazy, only one pulse works well and the damage t2 megapulse do is still pretty decent with lv 5 BS, so close range for an amarr BS to me, and close is going to be a vague word as its an opionin not a specific. close = 12km-19km
if ya wanna hug your target fly a thron with blasters
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Ituralde
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.22 19:10:00 -
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If I see another request for explosive crystals I am going to scream. Explosive damage is the second most useless damage out there save EM alone.
...And if anyone says 'Kinetic crystal' then they need to be beaten over the head by a beam of light.
Except oh wait, beams of light can't beat you over the head BECAUSE LIGHT DOES NOT DO KINETIC DAMAGE.
Ok, that amused me at least.
To re-iterate, fix:
 Cap use
Fitting Reqs
So Amarr fittings are not 50% engineering mods to fit all the crap on their ships - and still have no tank 
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Goumindong
Amarr
The Forsakened Companions
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.10.22 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ituralde
If I see another request for explosive crystals I am going to scream. Explosive damage is the second most useless damage out there save EM alone.
...And if anyone says 'Kinetic crystal' then they need to be beaten over the head by a beam of light.
Except oh wait, beams of light can't beat you over the head BECAUSE LIGHT DOES NOT DO KINETIC DAMAGE.
Ok, that amused me at least.
To re-iterate, fix:
Cap use
Fitting Reqs
So Amarr fittings are not 50% engineering mods to fit all the crap on their ships - and still have no tank
Light has mass...
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Ituralde
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.22 19:26:00 -
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Compare the light of mass and the mass of a charge of Iron 425mm in diamater and get back to me mmkay?
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Tovarishch
Caldari
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.22 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: Tovarishch on 22/10/2006 19:26:03
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Ituralde
If I see another request for explosive crystals I am going to scream. Explosive damage is the second most useless damage out there save EM alone.
...And if anyone says 'Kinetic crystal' then they need to be beaten over the head by a beam of light.
Except oh wait, beams of light can't beat you over the head BECAUSE LIGHT DOES NOT DO KINETIC DAMAGE.
Ok, that amused me at least.
To re-iterate, fix:
Cap use
Fitting Reqs
So Amarr fittings are not 50% engineering mods to fit all the crap on their ships - and still have no tank
Light has mass...
To the above - light has both mass and no mass. You aren't going to win with that argument.
Secondly - to all the children who find it reasonable to bump a thread simply to watch the reply counter go up... and to insult the same people who create the game that you continue to play... read this thread.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Out Siders
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 22/10/2006 20:43:10
Originally by: Ituralde
Edited by: Ituralde on 22/10/2006 19:33:10
Compare the light of mass and the mass of a charge of Iron 425mm in diamater and get back to me mmkay?
[Edit] - Point out where in the post you quoted where I insulted the devs in any way? I simply meant to refute the argument that in any way, shape, or form we (amarr) need to be able to do kinetic or explosive damage. Be high and mighty all you want but tbh I don't see how I am being non-constructive as the cap use in light of the announced HP change is a serious issue.
The issue can be solved entirely by making something like Smartbombs becoming a Amarr trait. Like lasers, smartbombs rely on energy, and for some reason, they can do kenetic and explosive damagetypes.
As for crystals doing extra damagetypes - Physics gone mad I am afraid.... or e=mc2 allows kenetic crystals... which is not going to happen anyway. This is transfering the problem - to solve the problem - you need new bonus on the amarr ships to actually make them usable.
I guess the new target in this thread is 150 pages - then the forums die - Go for it!
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Out Siders
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Karade
Originally by: Uglyone
w00t at 100 pages long this thread stands for Tuxfords incompetence.
80% of this thread is useless spam and stupid personal attacks such as the one above.
What does this thread show? that the forums are full of childish idiots.
If 80% of this thread is crap - then that means at least 20 pages worth need to be acted upon!
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madaluap
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 22/10/2006 21:03:53
Originally by: Lord WarATron
Originally by: Gabriel Karade
Originally by: Uglyone
w00t at 100 pages long this thread stands for Tuxfords incompetence.
80% of this thread is useless spam and stupid personal attacks such as the one above.
What does this thread show? that the forums are full of childish idiots.
If 80% of this thread is crap - then that means at least 20 pages worth need to be acted upon!
Problem is ammar just dont know how to whine. Thats all. You can call yourselves extremely lucky that minmatar is getting a (indirect) howitzer nerf, so you have them on your side.
If you need profesional whiners, than there are only 2 races that can bring decent, argumentated and clear whining.
Thats gallente/mini offcourse: Linky, Linky
All hail gallente whiners o/
On a more serious note: Tux has said that he will be looking into the EAM and laser problems.
If you think about it, the small changes are listed in the sticky on the top of ship and modules. I find those changes rather HUGE, so has anyone considered that these big changes might involve ammarboosting. Be it direct or indirect. i have good faith he will adress other races aswell and look @ overal balance. Gallente was the first race to receive a lot of indirect and direct boosts after 3+ years, so lets just enjoy it while it lasts. 
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Lazy8s
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Posted - 2006.10.22 22:55:00 -
[2921]
Originally by: Ituralde
If I see another request for explosive crystals I am going to scream. Explosive damage is the second most useless damage out there save EM alone.
...And if anyone says 'Kinetic crystal' then they need to be beaten over the head by a beam of light.
Except oh wait, beams of light can't beat you over the head BECAUSE LIGHT DOES NOT DO KINETIC DAMAGE.
Ok, that amused me at least.
To re-iterate, fix:
Cap use
Fitting Reqs
So Amarr fittings are not 50% engineering mods to fit all the crap on their ships - and still have no tank
I know there won't be explosive or kinetic crystals but I just thought I would point out that you can in fact do kinetic damage with light. In optical physics last semester we studied how you can make a sail boat of sorts in space and the kinetic force of light will push it through the solar system. You literally use big sails and the light pushes against them propelling the satellite through space. Also, there are optical tweezers that use light beams to lift and move small particles.
It's just bugged the snot out of me every time I see someone say light can't do kinetic damage because it very much does have a real kinetic force.
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madaluap
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.10.22 23:01:00 -
[2922]
Originally by: Lazy8s
Originally by: Ituralde
If I see another request for explosive crystals I am going to scream. Explosive damage is the second most useless damage out there save EM alone.
...And if anyone says 'Kinetic crystal' then they need to be beaten over the head by a beam of light.
Except oh wait, beams of light can't beat you over the head BECAUSE LIGHT DOES NOT DO KINETIC DAMAGE.
Ok, that amused me at least.
To re-iterate, fix:
Cap use
Fitting Reqs
So Amarr fittings are not 50% engineering mods to fit all the crap on their ships - and still have no tank
I know there won't be explosive or kinetic crystals but I just thought I would point out that you can in fact do kinetic damage with light. In optical physics last semester we studied how you can make a sail boat of sorts in space and the kinetic force of light will push it through the solar system. You literally use big sails and the light pushes against them propelling the satellite through space. Also, there are optical tweezers that use light beams to lift and move small particles.
It's just bugged the snot out of me every time I see someone say light can't do kinetic damage because it very much does have a real kinetic force.
Sails? thats minmatar technology dude.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.22 23:18:00 -
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Any "this is not realistic" argumentation is failed from the start really.
1.) It's a game. It is not meant to be realistic - if it would be the EvE "space" would not behave like it would be full of water. "Realistic" behaviour is only a distant 3rd in priority after balance & fun.
2.) Lasers are right now not very realistic. The whole concept of EM damage is flawed. Also, lasers do not suddenly stop working after x kms (high optimal, low falloff), but slowly diminish in strength due to loosing focus slowly with increasing length. Hell, you wouldn't even see the bloddy beams in space under normal conditions. The only thing EVEs laser beams have in common with the "real thing" is the name.
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Nyxus
GALAXIAN
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.10.23 00:09:00 -
[2924]
Edited by: Nyxus on 23/10/2006 00:11:07
Originally by: Aramendel
Also, lasers do not suddenly stop working after x kms (high optimal, low falloff), but slowly diminish in strength due to loosing focus slowly with increasing length. Hell, you wouldn't even see the bloddy beams in space under normal conditions.
I am sorry Aramendel, I can't believe that you would post this complete load of crap. It's obvious to EVERYONE that lasers have high optimal and no falloff.
This was proven incontrovertably in Star Wars when any "Light Saber", aka laser, was activated. The beam went up to a specific point (optimal) then STOPPED SUDDENLY (low falloff). OMFG if it had a long falloff and was invisible Luke would have cut holes in the top of the damn Millenium Falcon and killed them all every time he was practicing his leet j3d1 m0v3s. If it was invisible then it would be really hard to have a saber fight with Darth Vader because Luke would have spent 90% of the movie in a bacta tank healing thingie reattaching his arms and legs from cutting them off with an invisible blade in practice.
And we all know that isn't the way it happened.
Anyway we know that Amarr are evil darkside because blue gamma crystals are so completely craptastic while Aurora crystals are red and let me kill ppl from really far away while shouting "PEW PEW YOUR LACK OF FAITH DISTURBS ME, PEW PEW" while wearing my official black Vader helmet.
Nyxus
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Originally by: Tux
The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
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Dristra
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Posted - 2006.10.23 00:11:00 -
[2925]
Maybe we need a new constructive Amarr tread?
more like the ones a few posts up... where a detailed description of what we want can easily be found.
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Dahak2150
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Posted - 2006.10.23 02:19:00 -
[2926]
Poor Malken is probably beating himself over the head for this.
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Crimsonjade
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.23 03:21:00 -
[2927]
Originally by: Dahak2150
Poor Malken is probably beating himself over the head for this.
it does make him cry at times 
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General Tso's
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.10.23 06:38:00 -
[2928]
Originally by: Aramendel
Any "this is not realistic" argumentation is failed from the start really.
1.) It's a game. It is not meant to be realistic - if it would be the EvE "space" would not behave like it would be full of water. "Realistic" behaviour is only a distant 3rd in priority after balance & fun.
2.) Lasers are right now not very realistic. The whole concept of EM damage is flawed. Also, lasers do not suddenly stop working after x kms (high optimal, low falloff), but slowly diminish in strength due to loosing focus slowly with increasing length. Hell, you wouldn't even see the bloddy beams in space under normal conditions. The only thing EVEs laser beams have in common with the "real thing" is the name.
Well I think they tried their best to reach a balance/medium goal with realism vs fictional fantasy. Aside from explosive crystals and kinetic light, there are other options that could be explored here. EM effects and damages electrical components no? so if EM reaches your hull, shouldn't your systems start offlining/rebooting? :) like targetting, navigation, weapons, etc... Why not give other attributes to lasers besides damage.
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Ruah Piskonit
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.23 07:57:00 -
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Edited by: Ruah Piskonit on 23/10/2006 07:57:03
Originally by: Aramendel
Well I think they tried their best to reach a balance/medium goal with realism vs fictional fantasy. Aside from explosive crystals and kinetic light, there are other options that could be explored here. EM effects and damages electrical components no? so if EM reaches your hull, shouldn't your systems start offlining/rebooting? :) like targetting, navigation, weapons, etc... Why not give other attributes to lasers besides damage.
This would be a little too powerful, even if I do like the idea 
In all honesty though. Could we please stop insulting Tux? All people are doing is projecting their own fears onto Kali. Yes, I am very worried like the rest of you, yes, I do feel we have a problem. But our major concerns are not going to be addressed if people keep this up. I also feel that buffing is better then nurfing. . . and people pull out the nerf-bat a little too quickly.
Let us enjoy a good buff instead of fearing a terrible nerf.
now, go train Amarr and make it work!!
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Zhuge Liang
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.10.23 08:01:00 -
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Locked at thread authors request.
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