I confess that I would not know a bot in the game if one came up and smacked me on the nose.

99% sure the criteria is simply "are they in a mining ship?" if yes, they're a bot.

99% sure the criteria is simply "are they in a mining ship?" if yes, they're a bot.

99% sure the criteria is simply "are they in a mining ship?" if yes, they're a bot.

Wall o' text

I just hope you do not get a ban for impersonating La Nariz, or James whatever his name is, from the meanie bumping people

Any chance of you putting in a tl;dr in future posts if you aren't going to take the hint and quit being so verbose about nothing?

HTFU.

There was no easy way to reply to Marsha Mallows' posts in a limited fashion. If reading is something you detest, I suggest you not inject yourself into complex arguments. Otherwise, HTFU.

There was no easy way to reply to Marsha Mallows' posts in a limited fashion. If reading is something you detest, I suggest you not inject yourself into complex arguments. Otherwise, HTFU.

Its true, you need to use hardeners on your eyeballs to actually read more than a sentence or two of his self-agrandising muck

Is there anything else you need me to clarify for you?

In this case I'm also willing to defer to someone with more knowledge based upon their experience in using bots, being closely associated with those that use bots and/or being a part of a huge conspiracy to use untraceable accounts in order to mask their botting activities.

Its true, you need to use hardeners on your eyeballs to actually read more than a sentence or two of his self-agrandising muck

Things are just going down hill for you fast, man. HTFU does not stand for hardeners, and I'm not sure if you're aware of this but it is actually impossible to "fit" a module from the game EvE Online onto a human being. Also, it is self-aggrandizing, not "self-agrandising."

Things are just going down hill for you fast, man. HTFU does not stand for hardeners, and I'm not sure if you're aware of this but it is actually impossible to "fit" a module from the game EvE Online onto a human being. Also, it is self-aggrandizing, not "self-agrandising."

Are you simple or something?

Also, it is self-aggrandizing, not "self-agrandising."

That depends on where you're from, in the UK either spelling is acceptable (albeit with 2 G's), although many consider the Z an americanism.

Well it would appear La Nariz has abandoned this thread,

It still would not be "self-agrandising" but instead would be self-aggrandising. Good catch on the fact of the regional spelling, though, I hadn't thought of that myself. It's like rumour and rumor, both are perfectly acceptable spellings except in cases of regional school testing I assume.

I did specify 2 G's, and rumor, humor and honor are not acceptable spellings in the UK, ever.

or it's a weekday, and he has a job?

First, botting occurs in all areas of EvE Online. In the past 16 months, most bot bans have come from high sec, with a huge concentration being in Caldari high sec. This information can be found in the presentation titled "From Evidence to Bans" on CCP's YouTube page. This information, however, has no relevance on how botting should be combated. The reason I give for this is simple, if CCP is looking at high sec most of the time, they're likely to miss bots in other areas quite often. When the bot operators realize that CCP is not detecting bots in other areas as effectively, they will leave high sec and move to these less heavily monitored areas. This will lead to CCP having to play catch up, wasting valuable resources searching New Eden for where the bots moved to instead of actually enforcing their anti-botting policies.

It is unlikely that CCP actually uses such a method, since there is absolutely no benefit from taking arbitrary information and attempting to use it to devise a plan for fighting bots. It is far more likely that CCP focuses their anti-botting activities on bots as a whole, and I have been arguing that this is the way it should always be.

If you believe that CCP should focus their attention on bots based upon one piece of information, then the argument can be made to use any piece of information. As presented in the FanFest presentation, 21% of all banned bots were members of a single alliance. Should CCP focus their attention on that one alliance just because so many bots had been active in it before now? Or should CCP continue to fight botting across all of New Eden independent of where they are or who they are associated with?

True, but the thread is getting a bit overloaded with individuals wishing to push it away from the topic of bots, and onto the topic of me using far too many big words. If La Nariz wants to continue our argument he can always contact me and we can duke it out through Eve mails, in game chat or another thread. I just don't want things to further devolve into a mire of Marsha Mallow saying my posting the word "experience" is rumour mongering, or Ramona complaining about there being too many words on his screen or Lucas Kell needing me to explain that HTFU stands for Harden The **** Up. Really, things are getting way too far off topic and it's going to be difficult to continue the argument when we'd have to wade through 20 of their posts just to see our replies to one another.

True, but the thread is getting a bit overloaded with individuals wishing to push it away from the topic of bots, and onto the topic of me using far too many big words. If La Nariz wants to continue our argument he can always contact me and we can duke it out through Eve mails, in game chat or another thread. I just don't want things to further devolve into a mire of Marsha Mallow saying my posting the word "experience" is rumour mongering, or Ramona complaining about there being too many words on his screen or Lucas Kell needing me to explain that HTFU stands for Harden The **** Up. Really, things are getting way too far off topic and it's going to be difficult to continue the argument when we'd have to wade through 20 of their posts just to see our replies to one another.

Not a lot to say, and an awful lot of words to say it

This information, however, has no relevance on how botting should be combated.

If you believe that CCP should focus their attention on bots based upon one piece of information, then the argument can be made to use any piece of information.

Should CCP focus their attention on that one alliance just because so many bots had been active in it before now? Or should CCP continue to fight botting across all of New Eden independent of where they are or who they are associated with?

I just don't want things to further devolve into a mire of Marsha Mallow saying my posting the word "experience" is rumour mongering, or Ramona complaining about there being too many words on his screen or Lucas Kell needing me to explain that HTFU stands for Harden The **** Up. Really, things are getting way too far off topic and it's going to be difficult to continue the argument when we'd have to wade through 20 of their posts just to see our replies to one another.