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Namiene
Caldari Navy Auxiliary Support
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:30:00 -
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We have seen a lot of work done to ensure that perceived 'mining bots' have been reduced or removed entirely by a sustained campaign of AFK cloaking camps in null and suicide gankers in highsec. These benevolent efforts have gone a long way towards ensuring the players who actually play the game are not ripped off by those who use more nefarious means (botting / automation)
However we still lack adequate means / efforts to reduce the impact upon the economy made by ratting bots. How can it be fair to the people who actually play the game to have their profits reduced by those who afk farm rat belts and anoms afk for 23 hours every day.
So i have a proposal for tackling the issue. Alongside the proposed reduction in rat drops of refinable loots we also lower the bounties of rats found in belts and anomalies as well as removing any chance or seriously reducing the chance of faction spawns in said belts and anomalys. 'But this isnt fair'!, i hear you cry.
In order to compensate the players who live in null and rightfully deserve an increased profit for thier time in game; we move the faction spawns into scannable plex's and increase the bounties on the ordinary rats in said plex's We also increase the drop rate of valuable modules from scannable plex's
All of these outlined proposals would not only 'cut off the oxygen' of the botters so to speak. But will also ensure that those players who actually play the game get maximised profits for their hard work and for their loots.
Discuss.
(p.s. sorry for poor spelling and or grammar.) |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5772
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:34:00 -
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In you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first destroy the blue doughnut.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
623
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:35:00 -
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If you see someone you suspect is botting, petition it. Don't come to the forums with (a) new stupid idea. |
Dave Stark
5633
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:39:00 -
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Namiene wrote:How can it be fair to the people who actually play the game to have their profits reduced by those who afk farm rat belts and anoms afk for 23 hours every day.
by removing supply/demand from the equation governing bounty payouts it will be fair to everyone.
oh wait, that's already the case.
guess we've solved that problem. |
Prince Kobol
1720
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:40:00 -
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Namiene wrote:We have seen a lot of work done to ensure that perceived 'mining bots' have been reduced or removed entirely by a sustained campaign of AFK cloaking camps in null and suicide gankers in highsec. These benevolent efforts have gone a long way towards ensuring the players who actually play the game are not ripped off by those who use more nefarious means (botting / automation)
However we still lack adequate means / efforts to reduce the impact upon the economy made by ratting bots. How can it be fair to the people who actually play the game to have their profits reduced by those who afk farm rat belts and anoms afk for 23 hours every day.
So i have a proposal for tackling the issue. Alongside the proposed reduction in rat drops of refinable loots we also lower the bounties of rats found in belts and anomalies as well as removing any chance or seriously reducing the chance of faction spawns in said belts and anomalys. 'But this isnt fair'!, i hear you cry.
In order to compensate the players who live in null and rightfully deserve an increased profit for thier time in game; we move the faction spawns into scannable plex's and increase the bounties on the ordinary rats in said plex's We also increase the drop rate of valuable modules from scannable plex's
All of these outlined proposals would not only 'cut off the oxygen' of the botters so to speak. But will also ensure that those players who actually play the game get maximised profits for their hard work and for their loots.
Discuss.
(p.s. sorry for poor spelling and or grammar.)
So where are these armies of null sec bots you are talking about?
Got any proof.. screenshots etc?
I ask this question because over the last month I have spent a great deal of time in the following places,
Great Wildlands
Scalding Pass
Wicked Creek
Insmother
Detroid
Immensea
Tenerifis
All on a alt doing Data / Relic / Ghost sites and so far I have not seen one person who I would say is acting like a bot.
So again, where exactly are these army of bots you are talking about? |
Higgs Foton
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
111
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:02:00 -
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I also fail to see where there are ratting bots. In ye'olde days the ratting drake/raven/tengu bot was fairly common (but not even as much as the mining bots in high sec ice belts), but i haven't seen them in about a year now. Also the people in the region where i live seem very alive and aware behind their accounts, because they talk in local when spoken to, and i think the ishtar/dominix thingy is not really a bottable ship to bot, but maybe i am wrong regarding this.
With the changes in interceptors this way of botting has become very dangerous as well. If you don't vigilantly watch intel channels and have a scout in pipe systems you gonna lose ships.
*Snip* Removed trolling part of the post. ISD Ezwal.
*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
4277
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:08:00 -
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Namiene wrote: 'But this isnt fair'!, i hear you cry.
No you dont
"Nothing is fair" you hear me cry
Please explain who a botting ratter is not an easy kill?
Rat the ratters
Feast on their drops and crew
Hunger for fresh flesh
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2273
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:15:00 -
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Security presentation showed that most botting occurs in highsec.
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Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3390
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:21:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Security presentation showed that most botting occurs in highsec.
In absolute numbers or in percentage per population?
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Victor Dathar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
343
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:30:00 -
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Be boop I am a robot.
^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7
@grr_goons : Wisdom, Insight, GBS Posts |
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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
390
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:31:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:So where are these armies of null sec bots you are talking about?
Got any proof.. screenshots etc?
So again, where exactly are these army of bots you are talking about?
Mostly in high-sec but low and null is infested too. See this for more details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CZR9w3ftjY
The most relevant parts are around 18-20 minutes and 33-35 minutes. But I recommend you watch all of it. The part between 35 and 37 minutes is hilarious.
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Batelle
Tymast Industries 150th
2611
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:36:00 -
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You very obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Also you said afk cloakers work against miner bots. They obviously work just as well against ratting bots.
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2276
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:48:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:La Nariz wrote:Security presentation showed that most botting occurs in highsec. In absolute numbers or in percentage per population?
I'm fairly certain both but, you'll have to wait for me to get off of work to verify.
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Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
3033
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:51:00 -
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Once again, a waste of electrons.
The cartels will not allow CCP to go after null sec bots.
Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning.
The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2279
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:56:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a waste of electrons.
The cartels will not allow CCP to go after null sec bots.
Remember the facts show highsec bots the most.
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Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Dave Stark
5634
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:57:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a waste of electrons.
The cartels will not allow CCP to go after null sec bots.
oh ****, the tin man is here.
fun fact: if you're botting, ccp will ban you; they don't care who you are. |
Prince Kobol
1720
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:57:00 -
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Sable Moran wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:So where are these armies of null sec bots you are talking about?
Got any proof.. screenshots etc?
So again, where exactly are these army of bots you are talking about? Mostly in high-sec but low and null is infested too. See this for more details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CZR9w3ftjYThe most relevant parts are around 18-20 minutes and 33-35 minutes. But I recommend you watch all of it. The part between 35 and 37 minutes is hilarious.
Well the parts between 18 - 20 minutes do not mention location at all and is about The strike rule and types of bots.
The other part is showing that HS seems to be the worst place for all types of bots so pretty much destroys the OP's argument that its all in null. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2279
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:59:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a waste of electrons.
The cartels will not allow CCP to go after null sec bots. oh ****, the tin man is here. fun fact: if you're botting, ccp will ban you; they don't care who you are.
I was thinking more along the lines of the scarecrow is here but I suppose if you squint he fits the tinman better.
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Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Prince Kobol
1720
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:00:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a waste of electrons.
The cartels will not allow CCP to go after null sec bots.
Considering CCP showed themselves during fanfest that most bots work out of HS pretty much kills your argument.. well if you had a argument and you weren't just a raving paranoid lunatic..
Sorry that is right, CCP is working with the null sec Cartels so of course that would mean they would create an entire false presentation to show that HS is actually the worse place for bots.
Silly me |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
4280
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:04:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a waste of electrons.
The cartels will not allow CCP to go after null sec bots.
You are against the bots too?
Damn, Ill have to find some reason or way to support them then
They must be damaging you High Sec Imperial Fascists some how
DEATH TO THE EMPIRES AND THEIR HIGH SEC LACKEYS
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
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Audrey UntzUntz
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:05:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Security presentation showed that most botting occurs in highsec.
Most caught botting*
It could still be the case, or it could be that null-sec botters are better at their craft, not sure. |
Prince Kobol
1720
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:07:00 -
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Audrey UntzUntz wrote:La Nariz wrote:Security presentation showed that most botting occurs in highsec. Most caught botting* It could still be the case, or it could be that null-sec botters are better at their craft, not sure.
Well according to Dingleberry the null sec cartels will not allow CCP to ban any null sec bots because you know.. all of us in null sec run CCP  |
Dave Stark
5635
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:08:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a waste of electrons.
The cartels will not allow CCP to go after null sec bots. oh ****, the tin man is here. fun fact: if you're botting, ccp will ban you; they don't care who you are. I was thinking more along the lines of the scarecrow is here but I suppose if you squint he fits the tinman better.
have you ever seen a parent's half arsed attempt at a tin man costume for a school play? basically sending their child to school mummified in tin foil with a watering can helmet?
that's basically the mental image i have when people mention dinsdale. |
Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague
Fidelas Constans
98
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:36:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Audrey UntzUntz wrote:La Nariz wrote:Security presentation showed that most botting occurs in highsec. Most caught botting* It could still be the case, or it could be that null-sec botters are better at their craft, not sure. Well according to Dingleberry the null sec cartels will not allow CCP to ban any null sec bots because you know.. all of us in null sec run CCP
Only reason why CCP Guard stays so sexy is because I starve him 2 days per week. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2281
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:42:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:La Nariz wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a waste of electrons.
The cartels will not allow CCP to go after null sec bots. oh ****, the tin man is here. fun fact: if you're botting, ccp will ban you; they don't care who you are. I was thinking more along the lines of the scarecrow is here but I suppose if you squint he fits the tinman better. have you ever seen a parent's half arsed attempt at a tin man costume for a school play? basically sending their child to school mummified in tin foil with a watering can helmet? that's basically the mental image i have when people mention dinsdale.
That's the perfect image.
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Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
1313
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:42:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Namiene wrote:How can it be fair to the people who actually play the game to have their profits reduced by those who afk farm rat belts and anoms afk for 23 hours every day. by removing supply/demand from the equation governing bounty payouts it will be fair to everyone. oh wait, that's already the case. guess we've solved that problem.
small side note
Concord do not intervene between PC's in nul-sec
Concord do not patrol nul-sec Gates
Concord do not maintain Gate Guns in nul-sec
Concord do not maintain Station Guns in nul-sec
Concord pay bounties on NPC Pirates in nul-sec
1 of those mini-facts seems out of place.
Now how can you
A) Remove Belt Ratting as a RMT/Botting resource
B) Make Industry more relevant in making nul-sec more self-sufficient.
yeah, I know .. many tears, much anger, such nerfing.
but it's not 2005 anymore, it's time for nul-sec to remove the training wheels |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2281
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:44:00 -
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^^: Answer is nerfing highsec.
Audrey UntzUntz wrote:La Nariz wrote:Security presentation showed that most botting occurs in highsec. Most caught botting* It could still be the case, or it could be that null-sec botters are better at their craft, not sure.
So basically you only have speculation to back up your point. Whereas we have facts to back up my point.
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Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
4281
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:45:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:
A) Remove Belt Ratting as a RMT/Botting resource
B) Make Industry more relevant in making nul-sec more self-sufficient.
yeah, I know .. many tears, much anger, such nerfing.
but it's not 2005 anymore, it's time for nul-sec to remove the training wheels
Yeah cos there is not such thing as Industry Bots
Bots CAN into production/invention
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Prince Kobol
1720
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:50:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:La Nariz wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a waste of electrons.
The cartels will not allow CCP to go after null sec bots. oh ****, the tin man is here. fun fact: if you're botting, ccp will ban you; they don't care who you are. I was thinking more along the lines of the scarecrow is here but I suppose if you squint he fits the tinman better. have you ever seen a parent's half arsed attempt at a tin man costume for a school play? basically sending their child to school mummified in tin foil with a watering can helmet? that's basically the mental image i have when people mention dinsdale.
Damn that made me spit my coffee out !!!!!! |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
10750
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:18:00 -
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Audrey UntzUntz wrote:Most caught botting*
It could still be the case, or it could be that null-sec botters are better at their craft, not sure.
if you observe more of a thing in area A than in area B, that usually means there is more of that thing in area A
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