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The Knight
Gallente
The Crucible
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.11.13 17:41:00 -
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Edited by: The Knight on 13/11/2006 17:41:26
 Originally by: Mo Minor
err sorry guys. this thread is neither about balance issues nor about what deals more OOMPH.
its simply and strictly about the fact, that either the ishtars drone bonus OR its description is broken.
Yer right...we're already on page 3 of this thread and we haven't even begun to transition or change the subject into what needs fixed on the Deimos!
Gallente slackers!
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.13 18:14:00 -
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A couple points:
1) train the combat drone specialization skill
2) You can't calculate dps from actual hits logged because lots of them won't show up in logs.
Shamis
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.13 18:27:00 -
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Have you even read the OP?
- combat drone spec is pretty meaningless because it a) does not effect heavy drones and b) even if it would it would effect both ships equally.
- the ishar has an 5% (instead 10%) bonus also in the database (links at 2nd page)
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Caerula Sanguis
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2006.11.13 20:53:00 -
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So CCP basically lied about the ship's effectiveness. I bought Ishtar thinking that it'd have 10% to drone dmg/mining yeild per level. I got scammed by CCP. Do you think I can file a petition for this exploit?
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Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.11.14 01:00:00 -
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I really hope that this nerf wasn't intentional!
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.11.14 06:04:00 -
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Someone should file a BR =P
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Akiman
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Posted - 2006.11.14 10:05:00 -
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So still we dont know anything and no one explains what is it right? can moderators or devs take a look at this?!?please?!?
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Bellatrix VanFeldt
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Posted - 2006.11.14 21:31:00 -
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I'm working toward HAC skills right now to fly an Ishtar so I'd love a response from CCP on this issue.
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Crellion
Art of War
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.14 22:02:00 -
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CCP Please wake up and answer this thread.
Especially if it only affects Ishtar and none of the other drone boats this is RIDICULOUS.
There...
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Akiman
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Posted - 2006.11.15 12:28:00 -
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Dear CCP... We are not trying to flame anything. We just want to know what actually happened?...
Waiting for your reply..
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trimdonite
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Posted - 2006.11.15 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: commander tycho
People, look at the date of the first post!
indeed.. is this still an issue? or has it been sorted?
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Akiman
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Posted - 2006.11.15 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: trimdonite
Originally by: commander tycho
People, look at the date of the first post!
indeed.. is this still an issue? or has it been sorted?
yup. We dont know whats going on about anything but still no support.
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Kruel
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:11:00 -
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Bump.
I'd like a confirmation on this, as myself and a buddy plan to be flying Ishtars pretty soon.
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Karma Coma
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Posted - 2006.11.15 20:28:00 -
[74]
Bump... waiting for a ccp comment
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thoradh
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.11.15 22:25:00 -
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Interesting, I'm a Domi driver mostly, excellent drone boat etc, and was thinking its about time to train up for Gall HAC's...there was a dude running a plex the other day, in an Ishtar, and was having mucho trouble with the final stage, like 3-4 times warp in/out to finish it...well, the Domi of doom runs through it as Bricktop would say 'like a hot knife through BUTTAH!!!'
Now, how come the Ishtar driver was having so much trouble? This 5% silent nerf of the Ishtar bonus (if it is as it appears) means, no way in hell I'm training for Gall HAC's until the Ishtar gets its stated cruiser bonus i.e. 10% per level (not 5%) and the Deimos gets some mucho needed attention...
Whats the story Devs 
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tyrol
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.11.16 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: thoradh
Interesting, I'm a Domi driver mostly, excellent drone boat etc, and was thinking its about time to train up for Gall HAC's...there was a dude running a plex the other day, in an Ishtar, and was having mucho trouble with the final stage, like 3-4 times warp in/out to finish it...well, the Domi of doom runs through it as Bricktop would say 'like a hot knife through BUTTAH!!!'
Now, how come the Ishtar driver was having so much trouble? This 5% silent nerf of the Ishtar bonus (if it is as it appears) means, no way in hell I'm training for Gall HAC's until the Ishtar gets its stated cruiser bonus i.e. 10% per level (not 5%) and the Deimos gets some mucho needed attention...
Whats the story Devs
my thoughts too, the only hac i was interested in was the ishtar....now im having second thoughts
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Rastigan
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Posted - 2006.11.16 16:37:00 -
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Same here, I enjoy the Dominix and the Vexor and was working my way to the Ishtar.
It doesnt make sense to lower the bonus to 5% since every HAC has the same first set of bonuses and the cruisers they were based on...
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Rastigan
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Posted - 2006.11.16 16:45:00 -
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Since the Drone HP and Damage bonuses are linked, has someone tried doing the following.
Shooting a drone with a fixed damage weapon, like a rocket and see what the difference is in drone HP (ie, how many rockets it takes to blow a drone up) between the Vexor/Ishtar/and Domi..
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Derrios
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.16 17:48:00 -
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coming from a fellow ishtar pilot who has thought the same thing. They are very very similar in damage.
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We (aAa) could do this - did this?
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FourFourTwo
Gallente
Wise Guys
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Posted - 2006.11.16 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: tyrol
Originally by: thoradh
Interesting, I'm a Domi driver mostly, excellent drone boat etc, and was thinking its about time to train up for Gall HAC's...there was a dude running a plex the other day, in an Ishtar, and was having mucho trouble with the final stage, like 3-4 times warp in/out to finish it...well, the Domi of doom runs through it as Bricktop would say 'like a hot knife through BUTTAH!!!'
Now, how come the Ishtar driver was having so much trouble? This 5% silent nerf of the Ishtar bonus (if it is as it appears) means, no way in hell I'm training for Gall HAC's until the Ishtar gets its stated cruiser bonus i.e. 10% per level (not 5%) and the Deimos gets some mucho needed attention...
Whats the story Devs
my thoughts too, the only hac i was interested in was the ishtar....now im having second thoughts
I just bought one. I want my money back! 
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twit brent
Dark Centuri Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.16 22:36:00 -
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Bump, we realy need an answer from tux on this one.
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Commander Nikolas
Gallente
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.11.17 03:18:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Nikolas on 17/11/2006 03:18:25
After reading this thread we ran some tests... your right. The Ishtar had it's damage bonus halved and the wrecking's are alot lower then that of a Domi.
If they keep doing this to the other Gallente ships, maybe someone will fly the Hyperion until they train up another races ship skills...
Do the Mega next! Maybe forces it's drones to attack itself when they are launched?
Another quiet un-explained nerf to Gallente ships... Thank you Tux!
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Mandabar
Gallente
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.11.17 03:19:00 -
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Ditto.
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Pattern Clarc
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.11.17 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mo Minor
err sorry guys. this thread is neither about balance issues nor about what deals more OOMPH.
its simply and strictly about the fact, that either the ishtars drone bonus OR its description is broken.
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.17 07:22:00 -
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****, So this is true.. Odd. You don't exactly pay attention to this kind of details but CCP seem to be pretty good at this kind of crap.
How many months did people moan about the thanatos doing 10% damage per level more than all of the other carrier? It went on for months and months till tuxford went "OUPS! We had a description error!".
Seriously, i want to know if this is intended, or just another lame kick in the balls for no reason caused by excessive ammounts of moaning about the ishtars in the past.
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FourFourTwo
Gallente
Wise Guys
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Posted - 2006.11.17 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski
****, So this is true.. Odd. You don't exactly pay attention to this kind of details but CCP seem to be pretty good at this kind of crap.
How many months did people moan about the thanatos doing 10% damage per level more than all of the other carrier? It went on for months and months till tuxford went "OUPS! We had a description error!".
Seriously, i want to know if this is intended, or just another lame kick in the balls for no reason caused by excessive ammounts of moaning about the ishtars in the past.
If it's intended, then it's nothing short of deceit. If they want to nerf the Ishtar then for God's sake stand up and tell us rather than leading us to believe the ship offers something that it actually does not.
No, I think it's just a mistake but it kinda makes you wonder what other mistakes are active and going unnoticed out there.
CCP - Fix this immediately! - Please.
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2006.11.17 10:43:00 -
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It's rather disappointing that CCP doesn't want to answer this.
Has anyone filed a petition about the wrong description and got an answer?
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Miklas Laces
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A
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Posted - 2006.11.17 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Crastus
Has anyone filed a petition about the wrong description and got an answer?
Please don't start saying that.
It's a bug, not a wrong description 
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Miklas Laces
Originally by: Pan Crastus
Has anyone filed a petition about the wrong description and got an answer?
Please don't start saying that.
It's a bug, not a wrong description
No sympathy for Gallente ships from me, I fly Minmatar (including a Nidhoggur with completely useless bonus in a few weeks). :-/
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Tadis
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:29:00 -
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CCP did you nerf my favourite ship without even sending me a card?
Im not happy at you now, your not getting a X-mas card from me!
Tbh though... might as well fly 20 x vexors now rather than 1 x ishtar heh.
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