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Percolator
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Posted - 2006.11.29 10:52:00 -
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Perhaps the application of a the Domi NOS versus the Ishtar NOS is affecting the calculations?
If I recall (and I could very well be wrong)... I seem to remember reading somewhere that NOSing an enemy NPC will lower its tank, instead of killing its ability to use its weapon systems.
Again, I could be wrong, but I know that information had to have come from somewhere. I'm too retarded to think of that on my own.
Percolator
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2006.12.09 15:42:00 -
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Looks like this stealth nerf was stealth revoked, according to http://eve.coldfront.net/db/search?q=ishtar (now updated with Revelation data export), the " shipBonusGC2 10" indicates that the drone bonus is +10% per level again.
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Kiaara
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.10 01:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Mr Bondy
After reading the majority, and browsing the rest of this thread, and seeing many arguments for/against the ishtar haveing the same drone DPS as a domi it seems one argument has not come up.
If i remember correctly the ishtar (pre patch) could use a maximum of 15 heavy drones = same as the dominix. Surely this is a significant indication that this amount of damage was both considered and factored into the ship by the Devs to maintain balance.
So if it was origially supposed to have the same drone dps as a domi, then one could conclude that the bonus post-patch should remain the same as the dominix
I for one feel that this is allmost certainly a bug and not just a re-balence
MrB - appologies if this point has been raised before
It's been a year, and I'm still trying to wrap my mind around how a 10% bonus is supposed to give equivalent damage to the way things were before RMR. 15 drones' damage mashed into 5 means each drone is doing 3x damage (200% total bonus). 5x the 20% bonus from drone interfacing is 100%, add in 5x the 10% bonus on dominix for BS V is 50%, comes to 150% bonus for drones. So unless there's a hidden bonus somewhere, the droneboats're already 16.7% of their old best and this whole discussion is just moot :p
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.12.10 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kiaara
junk
2*1.5=3
it's not 100% + 50%. It's +100% * +50%, which is 2*1.5=3= +200%
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MellaRinn
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.12.15 03:39:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Pan Crastus
Looks like this stealth nerf was stealth revoked, according to http://eve.coldfront.net/db/search?q=ishtar (now updated with Revelation data export), the " shipBonusGC2 10" indicates that the drone bonus is +10% per level again.
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Caerula Sanguis
Stellar Nursery Society
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Posted - 2006.12.21 00:21:00 -
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bump for drones sake.
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Nybbas
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:20:00 -
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has anyone tested this yet then? to see if it REALLY is fixed?
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kiaara
It's been a year, and I'm still trying to wrap my mind around how a 10% bonus is supposed to give equivalent damage to the way things were before RMR. 15 drones' damage mashed into 5 means each drone is doing 3x damage (200% total bonus). 5x the 20% bonus from drone interfacing is 100%, add in 5x the 10% bonus on dominix for BS V is 50%, comes to 150% bonus for drones. So unless there's a hidden bonus somewhere, the droneboats're already 16.7% of their old best and this whole discussion is just moot :p
D = RMR drone damage
Old: 15 x D
New: 5 x D x 2 (= +100% due to Drone Interfacing) x 1.5 (= BS5 on Domi) = 15 x D
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Nybbas
has anyone tested this yet then? to see if it REALLY is fixed?
It's easy to test.
Take an Ishtar and a Curator (EM sentry drone). Shoot a buddy (with 0% EM resists and in 0.0 please) in the drone's optimal range until he sees a wrecking hit in his log. Divide the damage in this hit by 3 => this is the "normal" per hit damage of the drone. Verify that the bonus works with Quickfit, or compare with a Vexor.
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Neon Neya
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Posted - 2006.12.22 08:43:00 -
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It's fixed after Kali patch.
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