Here at RVB we fight constantly. Come join the fun !

Heh. Maybe it's just me. But, I'm doing what I want to do with my subscription and I really don't see how that involves YOU (OP)! In fact, there's a new breed of player that's swamping our little home here that seems to think they have some overarching say over what other people DO or WANT to do. It's like they're sitting with this brain of theirs they think is an infallible logic machine spewing forth in text whatever that magical organic computer comes up with as though its imbued with some sort of factual fairy dust. Then they proceed to belch forth with it as though it has some validity beyond their delusional, hallucinatory, self-aggrandizing imaginations.

I do hope you're not one of these.

tyvm Have a nice day.

Quoting for more reading comprehension issues on the eve forums.


What makes you presume that I am a high sec only player?

It's Ripardmobile, it's to do with Ripard Teg, who sprang to the rabble rouser megaphone when... ah forget it. You're out of touch.

Also: lol 1v1s. How are they significant in the great map of eve? You want to have fun in a giant map of military influence ok fine. But 1v1 e-bushido gudfites? Meh, try the hubs, sometimes Syndicate.
Everybody else is properly killing hostiles, which means having more and delivering it fast. More and better numbers, dps, boosts, drugs, implants, logi, intel, srp, bridges, jump bridges, moon goo, connections, production, ooh nearly forgot ecm, hated by all e-honoure bores everywhere.
Enjoy your kitten slap-fights, one day you might want to take it to the next level, where you take your place in a group and specialise. (Tackle, scout, bait, prober, logi, command ship, blops and the most hilarious of all, well placed and well played spai with cyno who jumps in a murder team to kill a bling fitted ratting carrier.)

1v1s....ok.

The systems you are listing are historically cluster****s of semi-blobby to blobby gate camps waiting for something to jump through. I remember Oldman star quite well, the trick was not so much getting your frigate past the camps it was scoring an actual 1v1 at a planet without interference and getting out again before his buddies arrived.



There is your reading comp problem again

I absolutely did not say there are "no fights" in eve. I am clearly referring to the "No fight" culture where people do not want to pew pew unless the cards are stacked considerably in their favor.

There is your reading comp problem again

I absolutely did not say there are "no fights" in eve. I am clearly referring to the "No fight" culture where people do not want to pew pew unless the cards are stacked considerably in their favor.

Looking at zkillboard you got a whooping total of 13 solo fights out of the 325 you have there and only one is not in empire . It's usually nicer to read complaints about an aspect of the game when there is proof that person actually has been involved in achieving what he claims he did.

A culture of 'no fights' === 'no fights' culture. (Read the full sentence i wrote. I think you'll find it clearly refers to the culture).

Same thing, just written the opposite way.

So when state (that I am saying) that you cannot find fights in EVE... that is not what I am saying at all. My title of EVE's "No fight" culture is pertaining directly to the initial text of my op. Which clearly states that fights can be had in eve, but primarily, if not almost exclusively, when one side of the other has the deck stacked strongly in their favor. Without which they are afraid to commit, regardless of how big of a game they talk.

You're conflating "afraid of fighting" with "refusing to throw ships away if you know you are going to lose".

The two are different things.

Nevermind that your basic premise is untrue.

You seem to have a reading problem to...
Here let me help.

Never did I suggest that people should throw away their ships into a fight they are certain to lose, or even likely to lose. A roll of the dice in a more or less evenly matched fight is not a "throwing away of ships" is it? So I do not know why you would even suggest that was the topic of the OP.

That's your preferred sneaky meta game... not mine buddy. Some of the best people I ever knew left eve because they found your meta game a boring waste of time. Problem is, I don't like world of tanks and would rather just be playing call of duty. So I can't join them there.

Can I have your stuff?

Oh, and it's everyone's metagame, whether they acknowledge that or not.

I think this entire thread is based upon acknowledging that fact. It then asks why the good people here think that it exists, and why it has become such a widespread single way of thinking throughout the game... basically replacing other, older ways of thinking. Of what people used to think eve should be.



Ideas that were more than likely way before your time...

Here is a quick lesson for you...in English restructuring a sentence or idea in a different way can result in a different inferred meaning.

I'm sorry, are you seriously going to lecture people on English when your posts are frequently as illiterate as they are badly presented?

what did that Benjamin Franklin dude say about "empty barrels"?

yeah, "they make the loudest noise".

A metaphor so deep, so vague, so educated and rooted in historical fact...
That I have no idea what you are talking about.



What quality makes a person an empty barrel?

I never really claimed to be an elite PVP'er in my EVE Career. And as for the relevancy of this particular issue, it has been at the forefront of every PVP establishment I have ever been in, for the past 6 years.


So I guess that makes you the empty barrel, doesn't it

which pvp establishments are you referring to?

who are you to generalize that the "new generation" of eve players are becoming a "no fight" culture and equating us to the carebears of your time?

Didn't it cross your mind that maybe this lee dude is just doing what people usually do on SiSi which is testing things out and not be bothered by some dude smacktalking on local and waste his time?

people here have been telling you that 1vs1 and gudfites are still happening but you refuse to acknowledge that, instead you whine.

I am not going to take something at face value that directly contradicts years of game play and the experiences there in. Even if what they are saying is true, it does not change the fact that a vast majority of eve has become risk adverse pansies that shy away from a fair roll of the dice.

A forum who's trolls and want to be's endlessly seek a justification for their style of no risk, grief based, easy kill, guardian infested PVP style.

You seem determined to misuse the term "risk averse".

Not throwing your ships away is not risk aversion.



Ah, that's the root of it.

He's just crying about pocket reps guys, nothing to see here.