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I don't really play much anymore. I kind of just peak my head in every now and then to say hi to old friends, argue on the forums or maybe bash a free ship into someones face on the SISI server. Every now and then I get the urge to come back a bit more consistently, but I invariably encounter (fairly soon their after) those things that slowly depleted the fun of a game that I truly loved once so long ago.




I'd like to talk a little bit about EVE's "no fight" culture...

This is normally a trait assigned to carebears and miners. However I have found, through great pains, that it is an attribute permeating the larger portion of EVE's player base. To give you a quick example, I just came from a short lived 30 min session on the test server. There I encountered a player named Lee Janssen, who has about 2,000 kills on battleclinic.

He made a few blustery comments in local that made for good troll bait. So as per usual, I commenced taking a poo poo on his ego. Once I was satisfied that the wall of text that we had created in local was sufficient, I invited him to shut me up with a 1v1 in any ship of his choosing. Which was the point of the exchange in the first place.

But on SISI... a server with free ships, and speaking to a blow hard with 2,000 kills telling me of his awesomeness and my my own Crapulence (which honestly was justified in this instance) he declined to fight me. And so did his friend, who had been bragging about not dieing on sisi in the past 15 days or so.



Point

So if a player can log onto the test server and still feels like he is camping war targets who do not want to fight inside of a station in empire. (And this from players who have every reason to pew pew everything in sight and nothing to lose) Then what exactly are we doing here with our eve subscriptions?


Now maybe it is just me. But if someone called me out in local and went out of there way to ask for a dual, I would be all over that with a smile. I figure we should dual more than once, get our friends and make a full blown vendetta out of it. Afterward, we would probably become friends. At least that is what used to happen when I did this, once upon a time. But these days if your not in a blob, or if you do not have so much RR on your side that you cannot possibly lose... you're "doing it wrong".


Is this the inevitable end to a game that has an excellent and balanced risk verses reward system, and a chance to lose your shirt in a blink of an eye? Will eve forever be filled with carebears who don't want to fight and "PVP carebears" who pretend like they do but in reality, won't undock without a sure win in their favor?


Will the "if it's fair your doing it wrong meme" forever eclipse things like "playing for fun", "That was genuinely a good fight" or "That was worth it even though I died?" Are the few of us actually searching for fun and pew pew forever doomed to be surround by people who are doing the equivalent of logging into Xbox live, putting in halo and kneeling in a corner so they do not lose their world rank?


I guess I am just asking what all of you are thinking...
Anyway... discuss.



Oh and if Lee Janssen shows up here with a butthurt post it will further make my day Becaue I think I have seen that name trolling on these forums before. It was interesting to see the stuff of the real man behind the keyboard today.

Lee, if you are reading this... with all my love.. Eternum <3

Just a couple of comments:

1. It's the test server. There's equally no point to fighting as there is to fighting. Who cares; and

2. You've decided that all of EvE has an aversion to fighting based on one encounter on SiSi?

The only real comment I can offer is - my experience on TQ is totally different.

If you want to fight on SiSi, come to I-UUI5. If we are online at the same time, any of us in Alliance will be more than happy to 1v1 (and honour it as a 1v1).

You are supposed to infer information based upon a single example and presume that the author is referencing that experience in order to explain a much larger phenomena of which he has been experiencing.

Personally, my no fight mentality stems largely from lack of funds, not caring that much to refill them, and the potential to go afk any second because I work from home and am essentially on call.

Also cause I'm solo 9/10 times or know I can't take the other guy in a 1v1.

Personally, my no fight mentality stems largely from lack of funds, not caring that much to refill them, and the potential to go afk any second because I work from home and am essentially on call.

Also cause I'm solo 9/10 times or know I can't take the other guy in a 1v1.

Thx for an (actual) intersting post.


Why do you feel that you cannot take the other guy? Lack of SP? Lack of piloting skills? Lack of fitting abilities? Being outclassed by ship types?

More info if you please.

I've also spent some time floating around pretending to me a mission runner in an attempt to bait my fellow mission baiters and the guy floating around in that juicy Vigilant sure as **** has an Exequror on standby and an Eos boosting in system

Heh. Maybe it's just me. But, I'm doing what I want to do with my subscription and I really don't see how that involves YOU (OP)! In fact, there's a new breed of player that's swamping our little home here that seems to think they have some overarching say over what other people DO or WANT to do. It's like they're sitting with this brain of theirs they think is an infallible logic machine spewing forth in text whatever that magical organic computer comes up with as though its imbued with some sort of factual fairy dust. Then they proceed to belch forth with it as though it has some validity beyond their delusional, hallucinatory, self-aggrandizing imaginations.

I do hope you're not one of these.

tyvm Have a nice day.

Are these tears about getting blobbed, or tears about not getting fights?

I find plenty good fights, seems more like a personal problem.

Wow, Serene. Tell us what you really think.

+1 to Serene for "In yo' eye."

I'm still living in the past where Catnineotails was all the rage and snotshot was the alliance section troll extraordinaire. So I am not really familiar with a serene.
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When I see you kneeling in a corner in HALO, i'll wave and know that you are doing what you want to do with your xbox live subscription. Thank you for edumacating me.

Lee... is that you

Her response wasn't a troll at all. Best and most accurate response in the thread so far.

Get out of highsec if you are having trouble getting people to 1v1 you.

If you can't find fights, that's not the fault of other people. It's yours. There's plenty of fights available and they are very easy to find.

Nope, Im just me. But if you have heard that before, maybe you should look within yourself as to why.

If I ever see Lee, I might have to thank him. The butthurt he forced you to post here today is entertaining.

Thx for an (actual) intersting post.


Why do you feel that you cannot take the other guy? Lack of SP? Lack of piloting skills? Lack of fitting abilities? Being outclassed by ship types?

More info if you please.

Listen jaggoff, the day you see me in Halo is the day I'll have myself put out of my own misery for senility. I bet you fancy yourself a badass. Children like you are a dime a dozen on my street. Find what you want where you want when you want. Just, don't bend over to pick up the soap...or do. You seem the type who'd enjoy it.

What makes you presume that I am a high sec only player?

-Piloting skills. More just self doubt here. I don't PVP often enough to really consider myself good at it.

You have the typical whine that you can't find fights.

That's only a highsec problem. No reading comprehension issue. Not at least on my end.

The fights you want, you don't get.

The fights you get.... you don't want.

You're proving what I mentioned with the way you reply here.

If you want people to play with you, it's always worth pretending to be likeable for a bit.

But do you like to do it? Or are you not really on the PVP side of the game?

Bit down the middle, but part of that is cause of being lazy about setting up a ship I'll probably lose, and the "on-call" thing with afk-ness :P

If I can have a more stable life I could see being some big null guy or something in the future though.

Bit down the middle, but part of that is cause of being lazy about setting up a ship I'll probably lose, and the "on-call" thing with afk-ness :P

If I can have a more stable life I could see being some big null guy or something in the future though.

Being nice is a requirement for being in a fleet, it is not a requirement to get people to undock and shoot you in the face.

True. But you don't need to force undocks on Sisi, or engage in trolling/smack to get a fight. Just undock and blow them away if you're so good. Sounds to me like you trolled them for a bit, they decided you were an arse, and then ignored you just to wind you up. Which appears to have worked with the rage thread, so well done to them.

I can't really picture that kind of thinking to be honest, and the people posting here are the only ones raging.
*weak smack*
So if you can't take a little pithy comeback, maybe don't dish it out or be as loud of a braggart in public. I am not talking about you specifically, just people in general. TBH, I don't know who you are even though you seem to know of me.
Edit:
But your sig stating "to the repairmobile" suggests that you might be part of the problem.

Sorry for compressing parts, but yep let's leave it here.

Some of you want to rant on and on, and expect everyone else to play along. Some of us ignore you then occasionally decide to drag you into your own spiral of rage, then walk away and watch you flail about.

Toodles o7

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Have fun flying that "repairmobile" and making the game better place for everyone.

Listen jaggoff, the day you see me in Halo is the day I'll have myself put out of my own misery for senility. I bet you fancy yourself a badass. Children like you are a dime a dozen on my street. Find what you want where you want when you want. Just, don't bend over to pick up the soap...or do. You seem the type who'd enjoy it.

It's Ripardmobile, it's to do with Ripard Teg, who sprang to the rabble rouser megaphone when... ah forget it. You're out of touch.

Also: lol 1v1s. How are they significant in the great map of eve? You want to have fun in a giant map of military influence ok fine. But 1v1 e-bushido gudfites? Meh, try the hubs, sometimes Syndicate.
Everybody else is properly killing hostiles, which means having more and delivering it fast. More and better numbers, dps, boosts, drugs, implants, logi, intel, srp, bridges, jump bridges, moon goo, connections, production, ooh nearly forgot ecm, hated by all e-honoure bores everywhere.
Enjoy your kitten slap-fights, one day you might want to take it to the next level, where you take your place in a group and specialise. (Tackle, scout, bait, prober, logi, command ship, blops and the most hilarious of all, well placed and well played spai with cyno who jumps in a murder team to kill a bling fitted ratting carrier.)

1v1s....ok.

Edit:
But your sig stating "to the repairmobile" suggests that you might be part of the problem.

Have fun flying that "repairmobile" and making the game better place for everyone. Straight

He's not entirely wrong. I mean, seriously, when was the last time anyone outside nullsec undocked when they thought they might not win?

Oh god, my sides.

I think you need to go back and adjust your posts about reading comprehension.

That was a huge reading comprehension fail right there.


This one too.

It's rare that the forum makes me laugh, but this is great.

Your forum foo lossmail would make a good ALOD.

Happens in FW systems all the time.

Roaming pirate fleets will engage most targets, Galmil and Calmil pilots will often fight, die, go reship and jump back into a fight.

Oh, yeah, there is faction war, isn't there? Sorry, I tend to file that away with COSMOS and just don't think of it very often.

Oh, yeah, there is faction war, isn't there? Sorry, I tend to file that away with COSMOS and just don't think of it very often.

There it is nothing unreasonable in presuming that a RIPARDMOBILE is referring to a ******** repair mobile, a rr ambulance or repairmobile.

They are not connected at all, in any way.

You started the whole attacks about reading comprehension, so don't go all pouty now when your own comprehension fails. Wrong comprehension is wrong comprehension, even if you think it might have been right.

If you want people to address the topic only and not the other remarks made, then stick to addressing the topic yourself.

But if you can't handle it, don't dish it out.

Yeah sure. Outside nullsec (from your original response), lowsec has plenty of fighting going on.

I dunno about that. The only place I ever see it is around Hek. Go out toward GW in Metro and there's a whole lot of empty low sec.

Now if you would be so kind as to actually address the topic, I would be interested in what you have to say.

I dunno about that. The only place I ever see it is around Hek. Go out toward GW in Metro and there's a whole lot of empty low sec.

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Even your old hunting area of HED-GP, in terms of nullsec, has masses of fighting going on because Hero Coalition are there. They are constantly fighting and Brave Newbies will take on anyone, no matter whether they will win or lose..

Anyway, you are right. I roamed HED allot and here is what we got. We rammed our ships into the camp on the HED gate whenever it was there. It went two ways, one we got completely creamed by a blob (especially on the weekends) and two we cleared the gate only to be creamed by the response blob.

To avoid the response blob we would roam deeper into Catch as far as we could go in every direction, encountering nothing until we reached a local or two filled with ratters who remained docked. After which, we then contended with the response blob.

Sure, there were fights to be had there but they are following the same pattern. We just flew around until that gigantic blob from hell found us, and the rest of the time we practiced avoiding them in order to get back to high sec.

So if there are now "brave noobs" who will fight anyone whether they win or lose down there, they were not there when I was playing. So excuse me if I do not just take your word for it. But I will go down there and see for myself this weekend.

1, Sisi? Really?

2. Excuse me while I leave this here: http://onegoodmove.org/fallacy/hasty.htm

Here is your cure:

1. Create a gank alt
http://www.minerbumping.com/p/blog-page.html

2. Explode ships no matter if they want to fight or not

3. Have fun and even make some ISK while doing so

Here is your cure:

1. Create a gank alt
http://www.minerbumping.com/p/blog-page.html

2. Explode ships no matter if they want to fight or not

3. Have fun and even make some ISK while doing so

Scipio... you don't get the point.

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So if there are now "brave noobs" who will fight anyone whether they win or lose down there, they were not there when I was playing. So excuse me if I do not just take your word at face value. But I will go down there and see for myself this weekend.

In your last reply you wrote that you don't even think about lowsec.

So is it safe to assume that you don't know because you don't think about it often and don't fly in lowsec much?

Yes really.

Because I have not played for over a year, there are new mods and ships I know nothing about, i am kind of sorta coming back (but can't get into it) and wish for a quick fix in an attempt to try and restore what I once loved about the game. Your link is also meaningless because at least two people in this thread have commented on my former null sec PVP habits. So I am not simply "sampling a tiny sisi cross section" as you are suggesting. The single referenced event on SISI simply reflects a much larger cross-section spanning years of gameplay on tranq.


I don't suppose you have anything relevant to contribute Mr Leet PVP forum person who would never lower themselves to test server ship destruction?

Look, I GET that you feel that logging into Sisi and finding someone willing to talk smack but not fight is PROOF that "Eve is still dying".

I don't think that;s quite what he's saying. It's more that he's griping about how risk averse some PvP has become, and even in a situation where there was no risk at all, some chickened out and stayed docked anyway.

Which is a legitimate gripe and it';s not terribly unique. There's a reason, after all, people ***** about docking games and station hugging. Let alone my personal favorite, the afk cloaker.

No, I said I don't think about Faction War.

[quote=Scipio Artelius]Again, trolling requires reading comprehension. I fly in low sec quite a bit. I see FW, not so much. And, no, this is my main. I stopped active PvP a while back because it got boring camping endless stations and gates, dealing with alliance mates that were absolutely untrustworthy and waiting for the next blob to roll around.

So yeah, I just wander around eve, retired. But I do have eyes, and make a complete transit of eve about once every three months, much to the irritation of a wide range of bubble ranchers.

I grant not undocking in the face of overwhelming firepower is sensible. But I've seen a lot of people drip what they are doing and run at even the slightest hint of a possible challenge and stay gone until dead certain they had overwhelming superiority themselves or the threat left.

I don't think that;s quite what he's saying. It's more that he's griping about how risk averse some PvP has become, and even in a situation where there was no risk at all, some chickened out and stayed docked anyway.

Which is a legitimate gripe and it';s not terribly unique. There's a reason, after all, people ***** about docking games and station hugging. Let alone my personal favorite, the afk cloaker.

*shrug* AFK cloakers only bother farmers, not pvpers.

There are many good ways to find fights on Eve. Trolling local on Sisi is .... probably not in the top 10. Plus, did anyone else notice that this thread is a stealth brag? "BEHOLD! Two guys in local on Sisi FEARED ME! I must run to the forums and start a thread IMMEDIATELY!"

Here at RVB we fight constantly. Come join the fun !

Heh. Maybe it's just me. But, I'm doing what I want to do with my subscription and I really don't see how that involves YOU (OP)! In fact, there's a new breed of player that's swamping our little home here that seems to think they have some overarching say over what other people DO or WANT to do. It's like they're sitting with this brain of theirs they think is an infallible logic machine spewing forth in text whatever that magical organic computer comes up with as though its imbued with some sort of factual fairy dust. Then they proceed to belch forth with it as though it has some validity beyond their delusional, hallucinatory, self-aggrandizing imaginations.

I do hope you're not one of these.

tyvm Have a nice day.

Quoting for more reading comprehension issues on the eve forums.


What makes you presume that I am a high sec only player?

It's Ripardmobile, it's to do with Ripard Teg, who sprang to the rabble rouser megaphone when... ah forget it. You're out of touch.

Also: lol 1v1s. How are they significant in the great map of eve? You want to have fun in a giant map of military influence ok fine. But 1v1 e-bushido gudfites? Meh, try the hubs, sometimes Syndicate.
Everybody else is properly killing hostiles, which means having more and delivering it fast. More and better numbers, dps, boosts, drugs, implants, logi, intel, srp, bridges, jump bridges, moon goo, connections, production, ooh nearly forgot ecm, hated by all e-honoure bores everywhere.
Enjoy your kitten slap-fights, one day you might want to take it to the next level, where you take your place in a group and specialise. (Tackle, scout, bait, prober, logi, command ship, blops and the most hilarious of all, well placed and well played spai with cyno who jumps in a murder team to kill a bling fitted ratting carrier.)

1v1s....ok.

The systems you are listing are historically cluster****s of semi-blobby to blobby gate camps waiting for something to jump through. I remember Oldman star quite well, the trick was not so much getting your frigate past the camps it was scoring an actual 1v1 at a planet without interference and getting out again before his buddies arrived.



There is your reading comp problem again

I absolutely did not say there are "no fights" in eve. I am clearly referring to the "No fight" culture where people do not want to pew pew unless the cards are stacked considerably in their favor.

There is your reading comp problem again

I absolutely did not say there are "no fights" in eve. I am clearly referring to the "No fight" culture where people do not want to pew pew unless the cards are stacked considerably in their favor.

Looking at zkillboard you got a whooping total of 13 solo fights out of the 325 you have there and only one is not in empire . It's usually nicer to read complaints about an aspect of the game when there is proof that person actually has been involved in achieving what he claims he did.

A culture of 'no fights' === 'no fights' culture. (Read the full sentence i wrote. I think you'll find it clearly refers to the culture).

Same thing, just written the opposite way.

So when state (that I am saying) that you cannot find fights in EVE... that is not what I am saying at all. My title of EVE's "No fight" culture is pertaining directly to the initial text of my op. Which clearly states that fights can be had in eve, but primarily, if not almost exclusively, when one side of the other has the deck stacked strongly in their favor. Without which they are afraid to commit, regardless of how big of a game they talk.

You're conflating "afraid of fighting" with "refusing to throw ships away if you know you are going to lose".

The two are different things.

Nevermind that your basic premise is untrue.

You seem to have a reading problem to...
Here let me help.

Never did I suggest that people should throw away their ships into a fight they are certain to lose, or even likely to lose. A roll of the dice in a more or less evenly matched fight is not a "throwing away of ships" is it? So I do not know why you would even suggest that was the topic of the OP.

That's your preferred sneaky meta game... not mine buddy. Some of the best people I ever knew left eve because they found your meta game a boring waste of time. Problem is, I don't like world of tanks and would rather just be playing call of duty. So I can't join them there.

Can I have your stuff?

Oh, and it's everyone's metagame, whether they acknowledge that or not.

I think this entire thread is based upon acknowledging that fact. It then asks why the good people here think that it exists, and why it has become such a widespread single way of thinking throughout the game... basically replacing other, older ways of thinking. Of what people used to think eve should be.



Ideas that were more than likely way before your time...

Here is a quick lesson for you...in English restructuring a sentence or idea in a different way can result in a different inferred meaning.

I'm sorry, are you seriously going to lecture people on English when your posts are frequently as illiterate as they are badly presented?

what did that Benjamin Franklin dude say about "empty barrels"?

yeah, "they make the loudest noise".

A metaphor so deep, so vague, so educated and rooted in historical fact...
That I have no idea what you are talking about.



What quality makes a person an empty barrel?

I never really claimed to be an elite PVP'er in my EVE Career. And as for the relevancy of this particular issue, it has been at the forefront of every PVP establishment I have ever been in, for the past 6 years.


So I guess that makes you the empty barrel, doesn't it

which pvp establishments are you referring to?

who are you to generalize that the "new generation" of eve players are becoming a "no fight" culture and equating us to the carebears of your time?

Didn't it cross your mind that maybe this lee dude is just doing what people usually do on SiSi which is testing things out and not be bothered by some dude smacktalking on local and waste his time?

people here have been telling you that 1vs1 and gudfites are still happening but you refuse to acknowledge that, instead you whine.

I am not going to take something at face value that directly contradicts years of game play and the experiences there in. Even if what they are saying is true, it does not change the fact that a vast majority of eve has become risk adverse pansies that shy away from a fair roll of the dice.

A forum who's trolls and want to be's endlessly seek a justification for their style of no risk, grief based, easy kill, guardian infested PVP style.

You seem determined to misuse the term "risk averse".

Not throwing your ships away is not risk aversion.



Ah, that's the root of it.

He's just crying about pocket reps guys, nothing to see here.

You also keep harping upon "throwing your ships away" where as I keep saying "Fair roll of the dice". So WTF?

I was about to reply about the hilarity when someone on a TEST server starts talking about avoiding risks. But I found a post largely sharing my opinion of this "analysis". So I just gave that a "+1".

I find it amusing that you think such a thing as a fair fight in this game does, or should exist.

The closest thing is the Alliance Tournament.

Here. Allow me to run a little experiment.

I would like to 1v1 you in a battleship on tranq or sisi. I don't really care which one. No RR, no help, no ECM drones and no bullshit. We will warp to safe and be fleeted together to make sure no one is running gang links.

if a battleship is to expensive for you, we can just use a frigate instead. Hell, I am not even familiar with all the new mods yet, so I am fairly certain you will beat me in a frigate.


What do you say?

Well, I freely admit I would cheat. I'd have my buddies drop combat probes and warp in on you with sensor damps.

Secondly, I think if you want gudfites to such a controlled, OCD degree as you just suggested, that you are probably playing the wrong game. Especially if you're going to be as petty as to ban ECM drones, and I imagine if you had thought of it, pills.

Well, I freely admit I would cheat. I'd have my buddies drop combat probes and warp in on you with sensor damps.

Secondly, I think if you want gudfites to such a controlled, OCD degree as you just suggested, that you are probably playing the wrong game. Especially if you're going to be as petty as to ban ECM drones, and I imagine if you had thought of it, pills.

And there we have it folks.

no items fox only

yes today we have discovered that kaarous and the guy in the op think it's funnier to hit you proper than entertain you

so, uh, so haven't discovered anything about anyone else?

He reminds me of the whiners who would always cry "no potions!" when you would duel in front of the Orgrimmar gates.

That's basically what this entire thread is.

A forum who's trolls and want to be's endlessly seek a justification for their style of no risk, grief based, easy kill, guardian infested PVP style.

Are you like... using a random word generator to create your replies? WTF are you talking about lol

You make a series of presumptions that, again, are not based on anything I said in my original post. You cannot just italics a single word, ignore everything else and draw to a totally new conclusion. That is not how educated adult minds are supposed to work.


You also keep harping upon "throwing your ships away" where as I keep saying "Fair roll of the dice". So WTF?

I presume you are referring to WOW?

Well that explains allot, TBH.

Yes. I am telling you that you remind me of nothing more than a WoW player. The kind who wrings his hands about "fairness" and makes tearful entreaties on the forums asking the developers to ban potions in duels because apparently using everything at your disposal is somehow cheating.

Never played it.

I tried the secret world for a month but booked after the first pay period ended.

I presume you played wow?

You'd fit right in.




TSW was fairly alright, their controls were a tad clunky, but the inside jokes that litter the game were pretty fun. Their artwork was amazing.

And I've played just about everything, I have press credentials so I get to try out a ton of games. My current "Back off!" game? ESO. The most railroady, overhyped piece of crap I have played in the last 3 years, hands down.

I thought you went toodles?

Yep, had to go to bed, been busy today. I wasn't flouncing off :P

Btw this thread makes me laugh, some guy challenged me to to duel on Sisi a few weeks ago because one of my forum posts offended him. Declining was fun, he resorted to 'ohhh you're scared' too.

You're not doing yourself any favours raging here btw. Anyone who sees this and wants a laugh is just going to blob you or dock up and ask if you're mad.

Well that makes you the wow player between us then doesn't it? And wow folks are known for their epic risk aversion to everything under the sun, so that explains why you would not as much accept a frigate dual on the test server.

And this is how sick EVE has become.

So thank you Kaarous Aldurald, you have helped prove my point far better then i could have alone. Even when no isk is on the line, you still cannot bring yourself to smack down someone who deserves it. Apparently I can take a gigantic crap in your front lawn, **** in your cereal bowl before you go to work... and still... you cannot bring yourself to engage in a fight unless you are SURE to win that fight.


You will not roll that dice, even when you take zero loss.


And that is why I don't play much anymore.

Kaarous Aldurald, spin it as you like. Your answer was no and your an ex-potion dude (something or another) from wow talking on an eve forum.

So thank you Kaarous Aldurald, you have helped prove my point far better then i could have alone.

As opposed to the eHonor crusader, in this of all games?

Heck, you even tried to tell me I wouldn't be allowed to use ECM drones. I don't know how much more of a combination of whiny and chicken you can get. Like a bagpipe with feathers.

There are no fair fights an Eve and you are a flipping moron if you think that you are a special cupcake and should receive one just because.

At the end of the day, neither of you are going to fight me anywhere... even on a free server... in any ship. Whether I ask nicely or act like a fool, this is the same old story. Again, and again. A few years ago I'd have half the forum challenging me by now, way more then I could take. But all I want is one... just one.

So I don't get your mind state. I don't get the game that you're playing... and at the end of the day I call bullshit. Your stance on this matter is a farce and it is obvious, even if you go as far as to fool your own self.

Welcome to EVE Online... the place WOW players go to die.

Yea, well... coward

You and miss marshmallow there... you remind me of one of my favorite Jayz songs "You know the type, talks a big game but wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight"

At the end of the day, neither of you are going to fight me anywhere... even on a free server... in any ship. Whether I ask nicely or act like a fool, this is the same old story. Again, and again. A few years ago I'd have half the forum challenging me by now, way more then I could take. But all I want is one... just one.

Who said I wouldn't fight you? I sure didn't. I'm just not going to kowtow to your eHonor "no ECM drones!" little restrictions.




Lol.

Yea, well... coward

Well generally anyone who 'requests' a fight is just asking to be mocked. But come and find us and put it to the test. Thanks for mentioning you hate ECM, worth knowing.

So it's yes then?

Says the guy who won't fight unless I agree to not use ECM drones? (and a whole pile of other things you don't like)

I mean, without ECM you may actually have to commit won't you?

Ok... im done here. Feel free to close the thread.



You all proved my point in spades.

And this is how sick EVE has become.

And that is why I don't play much anymore.

As opposed to the eHonor crusader, in this of all games?

Heck, you even tried to tell me I wouldn't be allowed to use ECM drones. I don't know how much more of a combination of whiny and chicken you can get. Like a bagpipe with feathers.

I think its a lot more a guerrilla warfare culture TBH.

Why is it people can't read here... is it the age group I am dealing with?
Lrn 2 read already

I'll fight you. Ill meet you with my shuttle.

I find it amusing that someone belonging to Nulli Secunda has anything say with regards to risk aversion and PVP. Maybe you should hop into an Ishtar, drop some sentries and run. Seems to work fine. Just watch out for local, a single cloaky means you have to stay docked up all day.

There are no fair fights an Eve and you are a flipping moron if you think that you are a special cupcake and should receive one just because.

Understanding when to fight and when not to .... doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner.

Hello Salvos! Another alt I see?

How are you and your other alts enjoying your bans?

Again I should point out creating alts to dodge bans is punishable by further bans.

Toodles o7

Cut down on your paranoia.

Eternum definitely isn't Salvos and no idea why you'd figure that.

You have evidence to support this? Let me know and Ill think about it

But given his speech patterns match I don't see why not

You have evidence to support this? Let me know and Ill think about it

But given his speech patterns match I don't see why not

EP is a loudmouth. Despite his denial I do remember him yapping in local when I started (we all hated him). Salvos looks to be a noobscrub redditor based on his remarks. There are plenty of muppetoids in Eve, they don't all *have* to be the same person. Although would be funny if they were.

Gawd I think maybe I am Salvos now >.>

In my case, I too only play a little each day. I have real world obligations that limit my game play.

I sit in a little 0.6 system, which I call home, and I do a little mining, some ratting and I'll go out and do some exploring because thats what I enjoy doing. I get my music playing and I chill after a long day and enjoy EVE my way.

I'm not risk averse and I know that at any time I can get ganked at any time. That is part of that game and I'm cool with that. I just don't go looking for fights.

Funnily enough I do that on alts too. And on the blobber ones cower in station waiting for an FC :)

Mail me in a week when I'm less busy and I'll fight you. My terms tho, might go with battlebadgers.

So this is what you get when you post with bias

Show me a reply on GD without any bias and Ill send you 1m isk

Your badger fight in a week...
Sure we'll do that.



Transparent much!

well, everyone is doing stupid so I will too