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I don't really play much anymore. I kind of just peak my head in every now and then to say hi to old friends, argue on the forums or maybe bash a free ship into someones face on the SISI server. Every now and then I get the urge to come back a bit more consistently, but I invariably encounter (fairly soon their after) those things that slowly depleted the fun of a game that I truly loved once so long ago.




I'd like to talk a little bit about EVE's "no fight" culture...

This is normally a trait assigned to carebears and miners. However I have found, through great pains, that it is an attribute permeating the larger portion of EVE's player base. To give you a quick example, I just came from a short lived 30 min session on the test server. There I encountered a player named Lee Janssen, who has about 2,000 kills on battleclinic.

He made a few blustery comments in local that made for good troll bait. So as per usual, I commenced taking a poo poo on his ego. Once I was satisfied that the wall of text that we had created in local was sufficient, I invited him to shut me up with a 1v1 in any ship of his choosing. Which was the point of the exchange in the first place.

But on SISI... a server with free ships, and speaking to a blow hard with 2,000 kills telling me of his awesomeness and my my own Crapulence (which honestly was justified in this instance) he declined to fight me. And so did his friend, who had been bragging about not dieing on sisi in the past 15 days or so.



Point

So if a player can log onto the test server and still feels like he is camping war targets who do not want to fight inside of a station in empire. (And this from players who have every reason to pew pew everything in sight and nothing to lose) Then what exactly are we doing here with our eve subscriptions?


Now maybe it is just me. But if someone called me out in local and went out of there way to ask for a dual, I would be all over that with a smile. I figure we should dual more than once, get our friends and make a full blown vendetta out of it. Afterward, we would probably become friends. At least that is what used to happen when I did this, once upon a time. But these days if your not in a blob, or if you do not have so much RR on your side that you cannot possibly lose... you're "doing it wrong".


Is this the inevitable end to a game that has an excellent and balanced risk verses reward system, and a chance to lose your shirt in a blink of an eye? Will eve forever be filled with carebears who don't want to fight and "PVP carebears" who pretend like they do but in reality, won't undock without a sure win in their favor?


Will the "if it's fair your doing it wrong meme" forever eclipse things like "playing for fun", "That was genuinely a good fight" or "That was worth it even though I died?" Are the few of us actually searching for fun and pew pew forever doomed to be surround by people who are doing the equivalent of logging into Xbox live, putting in halo and kneeling in a corner so they do not lose their world rank?


I guess I am just asking what all of you are thinking...
Anyway... discuss.



Oh and if Lee Janssen shows up here with a butthurt post it will further make my day Becaue I think I have seen that name trolling on these forums before. It was interesting to see the stuff of the real man behind the keyboard today.

Lee, if you are reading this... with all my love.. Eternum <3

Just a couple of comments:

1. It's the test server. There's equally no point to fighting as there is to fighting. Who cares; and

2. You've decided that all of EvE has an aversion to fighting based on one encounter on SiSi?

The only real comment I can offer is - my experience on TQ is totally different.

If you want to fight on SiSi, come to I-UUI5. If we are online at the same time, any of us in Alliance will be more than happy to 1v1 (and honour it as a 1v1).

You are supposed to infer information based upon a single example and presume that the author is referencing that experience in order to explain a much larger phenomena of which he has been experiencing.

Personally, my no fight mentality stems largely from lack of funds, not caring that much to refill them, and the potential to go afk any second because I work from home and am essentially on call.

Also cause I'm solo 9/10 times or know I can't take the other guy in a 1v1.

Personally, my no fight mentality stems largely from lack of funds, not caring that much to refill them, and the potential to go afk any second because I work from home and am essentially on call.

Also cause I'm solo 9/10 times or know I can't take the other guy in a 1v1.

Thx for an (actual) intersting post.


Why do you feel that you cannot take the other guy? Lack of SP? Lack of piloting skills? Lack of fitting abilities? Being outclassed by ship types?

More info if you please.

I've also spent some time floating around pretending to me a mission runner in an attempt to bait my fellow mission baiters and the guy floating around in that juicy Vigilant sure as **** has an Exequror on standby and an Eos boosting in system

Heh. Maybe it's just me. But, I'm doing what I want to do with my subscription and I really don't see how that involves YOU (OP)! In fact, there's a new breed of player that's swamping our little home here that seems to think they have some overarching say over what other people DO or WANT to do. It's like they're sitting with this brain of theirs they think is an infallible logic machine spewing forth in text whatever that magical organic computer comes up with as though its imbued with some sort of factual fairy dust. Then they proceed to belch forth with it as though it has some validity beyond their delusional, hallucinatory, self-aggrandizing imaginations.

I do hope you're not one of these.

tyvm Have a nice day.

Are these tears about getting blobbed, or tears about not getting fights?

I find plenty good fights, seems more like a personal problem.

Wow, Serene. Tell us what you really think.

+1 to Serene for "In yo' eye."

I'm still living in the past where Catnineotails was all the rage and snotshot was the alliance section troll extraordinaire. So I am not really familiar with a serene.
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When I see you kneeling in a corner in HALO, i'll wave and know that you are doing what you want to do with your xbox live subscription. Thank you for edumacating me.

Lee... is that you

Her response wasn't a troll at all. Best and most accurate response in the thread so far.

Get out of highsec if you are having trouble getting people to 1v1 you.

If you can't find fights, that's not the fault of other people. It's yours. There's plenty of fights available and they are very easy to find.