Not that i care anymore tbh

Me neither

What were you saying?

Will CCP ever do anything about this? Is it too late to? is eve heading in the wrong direction. Personally i think something needs to change but i think its too late and eve is heading for a disaster.

troll away or not

The damage control alts seems active today

They get herded into a deadspace area where they need to fight it out with ships given to them by their overlords and the whole thing is streamed live for the royalty's and the peons' amusement.

They get herded into a deadspace area where they need to fight it out with ships given to them by their overlords and the whole thing is streamed live for the royalty's and the peons' amusement.

I dont know about you guys, but this really worries me.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png

The entire south has become just rental, hundreds and hundreds of systems. Is it just me that sees something fundamentally wrong here?

I dont disagree with renting a few systems out you own, but literally taking over regions purely to rent is another thing. This surely goes against what eve is about? Coalitions just having to do absolute minimum effort to hold these regions, dont even have to live in them! But its only the huge amount of supers and titans that stops anyone else even having a slight chance. Trillions and trillions of isk, and it will only get worse as the more money the more supers and titans etc etc.

Will CCP ever do anything about this? Is it too late to? is eve heading in the wrong direction. Personally i think something needs to change but i think its too late and eve is heading for a disaster.

troll away or not

How can you fight alliances with trillions of isk that grows by tens if not hundreds of billions of isk a week and no short supply of supercarriers and titans without supers and titans of your own?


You don't.

Unless CCP changes the way 0.0 and SOV operates (I don't see how because the whole system of renting is done OOG) then the way 0.0 is, is the way it will always be.

And what is ccp's rush to change things? Most if not all of the employees of CCP are members of said overload alliances. Why would they ruin their income?

Anyone remember a time before technetium, when -A- rented 90% of the south, nothing new here, move along, CCP will make some new way of alliances funding themselves and renting will stop, then CCP will nerf that, and we'll go back to renters.

It's funny, really. A lot of people agree that there's a problem with nullsec, but no-one can agree on what exactly that problem happens to be or how exactly it should be fixed. It's almost as if it's harder to change something when people realise there's a problem than when they're completely ignorant of it.

It's like living in the US. Most of us know that the powers in office are rotten and that the system has become completely corrupt but a majority of us depend on the status quo to make our living. DonGÇÖt wanna break our rice bowls!

So until CCP strongly reduce power projection and rework the sov system, then 0,0 will be:~~

Two households, both alike in dignity,
In fair Verona, where we lay our scene,
From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean....

Really this is the key - you can't impact the meta game with game mechanics. In the end what would need to change this is to change how rapidly alliances can respond to an attack, and how rapidly they NEED to respond to an attack. Now, they only need to respond once every seven days to prevent loss of sov. Even a crippled monkey with one bad eye could manage to move a defense fleet into position in that kind of time.

The only thing that would cripple the rental feudalism we have no is if the renters suddenly had to defend the space they were holding because their landlords couldn't deploy their own forces fast enough. That's where the power projection nerfs come in. if the renters suddenly have to defend the space, they're not going to want to rent it, they're going to want to own it - they may as well, since they now have the headaches of sov defense.

It's funny, really. A lot of people agree that there's a problem with nullsec, but no-one can agree on what exactly that problem happens to be or how exactly it should be fixed. It's almost as if it's harder to change something when people realise there's a problem than when they're completely ignorant of it.