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malcovas Henderson Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis 170	Posted - 2014.06.10 23:53:00 - [1] - Quote One day I was in an Ice field, ratting as one does. When my thrasher's path was blocked by a Charon. and quite a few Retrievers. This happened several times in succession. I presume the Charon was deflected some inconvenienced distance, because in local threats of WD's where ushered. Now this guy has obviously got a merc corp. He's enlisted this corp to WD us. No problem there, except they're never online. What I do have a problem with, is this guy hides behind an NPC corp, I cannot give him the same in retaliation. CCP. Is it possible please, to implement so that you can also WD an individual. NPC corp or not. This would give me the satisfaction of being able to retaliate
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 11878	Posted - 2014.06.10 23:58:00 - [2] - Quote Way too many issues with wardecs on pilots. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6944	Posted - 2014.06.11 00:04:00 - [3] - Quote If that ever actually happens, I would open a business to wardec people into quitting the game. Nevermind the shenanigans I could get up to with logi. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
malcovas Henderson Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis 170	Posted - 2014.06.11 00:11:00 - [4] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: If that ever actually happens, I would open a business to wardec people into quitting the game. Nevermind the shenanigans I could get up to with logi. It could be players in an NPC corp only, getting the "individual" WD. Would stop players hiding behind the NPC immunity.
Kijo Rikki Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables 752	Posted - 2014.06.11 00:14:00 - [5] - Quote You could always make an NPC alt and get some buddies to go suicide gank his charon. Just a thought. It is really hard to change your signature settings
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6945	Posted - 2014.06.11 00:22:00 - [6] - Quote malcovas Henderson wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: If that ever actually happens, I would open a business to wardec people into quitting the game. Nevermind the shenanigans I could get up to with logi. It could be players in an NPC corp only, getting the "individual" WD. Would stop players hiding behind the NPC immunity. If you want people to stop doing that, then just make the entire NPC corp wardeccable, with the consequence that you be locked out of their stations simultaneously. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Nariya Kentaya Phoenix funds 1325	Posted - 2014.06.11 00:24:00 - [7] - Quote Kijo Rikki wrote: You could always make an NPC alt and get some buddies to go suicide gank his charon. Just a thought. when the only viable mechanic left is "lul get an alt" and/or "SUICIDE GANK" then theres a problem that needs to be solved. namely a way to harass these people that doesnt involve either making a disposable alt no one wants and/or taking your sec for no reason other than someone else being a ****. again, there should be a way to punish people for being dicks, not having to punish yourself because they are being dicks.
Mike Azariah DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited 1199	Posted - 2014.06.11 00:33:00 - [8] - Quote Nice, you managed to turn the normal complaint on its head. NPC corps make you unable to play the way you want to play. Just like WARDECS do to the PvE players. You want something to make it easier for you to play your way and shoot people. Well, cupcake, this is YOUR lucky day. Lowsec and Nullsec await your presence where you can shoot without ANY of that dec and npc garbage. Oh your standings may shift a little but for a big shooty person like you that will just add to the fun, right? There are places where you can shoot. There are other places where you cans hoot but there will be consequences. Your choice, change locale or accept consequences. But lordy, Individual wardecs? Can't see the potential for griefing and abuse? m Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 3763	Posted - 2014.06.11 00:33:00 - [9] - Quote Just get a BS and bump his freighter to the next belt over. Get some friends and spread out the whole mining operation. No need to wardec. He was a ass to you without one, why do you need a wardec all of a sudden to be an ass back? Creativity exhausted at ctrl-click, F1? Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1868	Posted - 2014.06.11 00:40:00 - [10] - Quote haha ratting in highsec +1 for troll post. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
Yang Aurilen The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 212	Posted - 2014.06.11 00:41:00 - [11] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Just get a BS and bump his freighter to the next belt over. Get some friends and spread out the whole mining operation. No need to wardec. He was a ass to you without one, why do you need a wardec all of a sudden to be an ass back? Creativity exhausted at ctrl-click, F1? Set grouped weapons to f1. Lock shoot drag scram to f1 and press f1 again, do the same for web. Really eve combat is more complicated because you need to drag your basic ewar to f1 to use them. Of course only pros from RTS games can do those in a reasonable amount of time.
malcovas Henderson Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis 171	Posted - 2014.06.11 00:43:00 - [12] - Quote posting problems
malcovas Henderson Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis 171	Posted - 2014.06.11 00:48:00 - [13] - Quote Mike Azariah wrote: Nice, you managed to turn the normal complaint on its head. NPC corps make you unable to play the way you want to play. Just like WARDECS do to the PvE players. You want something to make it easier for you to play your way and shoot people. Well, cupcake, this is YOUR lucky day. Lowsec and Nullsec await your presence where you can shoot without ANY of that dec and npc garbage. Oh your standings may shift a little but for a big shooty person like you that will just add to the fun, right? There are places where you can shoot. There are other places where you cans hoot but there will be consequences. Your choice, change locale or accept consequences. But lordy, Individual wardecs? Can't see the potential for griefing and abuse? m You mis understand. first and formost I am a miner. I also lived in WH null and low. This guy can WD any corp entering his "territory", with impunity and immunity. Also he WD us with his merc corp, but does not log on his merc corp. I know he is the source of the WD, I just want to exact some retribution with the same balance as he does himself.
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 1369	Posted - 2014.06.11 00:59:00 - [14] - Quote So bait his WD corp out with a bait ship then warp in your support to kill it. Or use your mining fleet of skiffs with their epic damage bonus to kill him for bonus trolling points. If he dares stick his head out anyway.
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2908	Posted - 2014.06.11 01:02:00 - [15] - Quote malcovas Henderson wrote: One day I was in an Ice field, ratting as one does. When my thrasher's path was blocked by a Charon. and quite a few Retrievers. This happened several times in succession. I presume the Charon was deflected some inconvenienced distance, because in local threats of WD's where ushered. Now this guy has obviously got a merc corp. He's enlisted this corp to WD us. No problem there, except they're never online. What I do have a problem with, is this guy hides behind an NPC corp, I cannot give him the same in retaliation. CCP. Is it possible please, to implement so that you can also WD an individual. NPC corp or not. This would give me the satisfaction of being able to retaliate Why don't you just grow some ******* balls and suicide gank him? "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh
Amenity Project Hedion University Amarr Empire 61	Posted - 2014.06.11 01:05:00 - [16] - Quote Domanique Altares wrote: malcovas Henderson wrote: One day I was in an Ice field, ratting as one does. When my thrasher's path was blocked by a Charon. and quite a few Retrievers. This happened several times in succession. I presume the Charon was deflected some inconvenienced distance, because in local threats of WD's where ushered. Now this guy has obviously got a merc corp. He's enlisted this corp to WD us. No problem there, except they're never online. What I do have a problem with, is this guy hides behind an NPC corp, I cannot give him the same in retaliation. CCP. Is it possible please, to implement so that you can also WD an individual. NPC corp or not. This would give me the satisfaction of being able to retaliate Why don't you just grow some ******* balls and suicide gank him? The attractive lady above me is right.
malcovas Henderson Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis 171	Posted - 2014.06.11 01:06:00 - [17] - Quote Domanique Altares wrote: malcovas Henderson wrote: One day I was in an Ice field, ratting as one does. When my thrasher's path was blocked by a Charon. and quite a few Retrievers. This happened several times in succession. I presume the Charon was deflected some inconvenienced distance, because in local threats of WD's where ushered. Now this guy has obviously got a merc corp. He's enlisted this corp to WD us. No problem there, except they're never online. What I do have a problem with, is this guy hides behind an NPC corp, I cannot give him the same in retaliation. CCP. Is it possible please, to implement so that you can also WD an individual. NPC corp or not. This would give me the satisfaction of being able to retaliate Why don't you just grow some ******* balls and suicide gank him? Why can't I just WD him, and have the same retaliatory options he has
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2910	Posted - 2014.06.11 01:17:00 - [18] - Quote malcovas Henderson wrote: Why can't I just WD him, and have the same retaliatory options he has Because you made the conscious choice to join a player corp. Then you decided it would be fun to wander through a belt bumping miners. Those were your actions; these are your consequences. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 5184	Posted - 2014.06.11 01:19:00 - [19] - Quote malcovas Henderson wrote: Why can't I just WD him, and have the same retaliatory options he has Because you limit yourself to what he chooses to do You do not explore the possibilities "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "Question asked, insults exchanged, solutions given, face palms had, problem solved, off topic posts posted, thread locked." - ISD Ezwal
Solecist Project Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 2186	Posted - 2014.06.11 01:28:00 - [20] - Quote May you should stop annoying the lowest hanging fruits, you low hanging fruit. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499 - Cowards deserve punishment -
malcovas Henderson Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis 172	Posted - 2014.06.11 01:31:00 - [21] - Quote Domanique Altares wrote: malcovas Henderson wrote: Why can't I just WD him, and have the same retaliatory options he has Because you made the conscious choice to join a player corp. Then you decided it would be fun to wander through a belt bumping miners. Those were your actions; these are your consequences. I am happy with the consequences as a rule. I just find it a little bit nonsensical that a player can and will force a WD with impunity and immunity. I just think that an individual WD for NPC players would be a win win situation. Stops players hiding behind them. OFC it would have it's limitations. No player under a certain age can be WD. Cost could be high. No renewal. 1 per week. only individuals can issue it, not corps.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 5186	Posted - 2014.06.11 01:33:00 - [22] - Quote malcovas Henderson wrote: Domanique Altares wrote: malcovas Henderson wrote: Why can't I just WD him, and have the same retaliatory options he has Because you made the conscious choice to join a player corp. Then you decided it would be fun to wander through a belt bumping miners. Those were your actions; these are your consequences. I am happy with the consequences as a rule. I just find it a little bit nonsensical that a player can and will force a WD with impunity and immunity. I just think that an individual WD for NPC players would be a win win situation. Stops players hiding behind them. OFC it would have it's limitations. No player under a certain age can be WD. Cost could be high. No renewal. 1 per week. only individuals can issue it, not corps. You cannot be harmed by a WD you do not wish to perpetrate "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "Question asked, insults exchanged, solutions given, face palms had, problem solved, off topic posts posted, thread locked." - ISD Ezwal
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2912	Posted - 2014.06.11 01:35:00 - [23] - Quote malcovas Henderson wrote: immunity. He's not immune to anything. You simply lack the fortitude to do what the situation necessitates. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 5186	Posted - 2014.06.11 01:37:00 - [24] - Quote There is always a throat that can be cut if you can find it And you can hide your won if you learn how "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "Question asked, insults exchanged, solutions given, face palms had, problem solved, off topic posts posted, thread locked." - ISD Ezwal
Haedonism Bot Revolutionary Front 1233	Posted - 2014.06.11 01:48:00 - [25] - Quote Mike Azariah wrote: Nice, you managed to turn the normal complaint on its head. NPC corps make you unable to play the way you want to play. Just like WARDECS do to the PvE players. You want something to make it easier for you to play your way and shoot people. Well, cupcake, this is YOUR lucky day. Lowsec and Nullsec await your presence where you can shoot without ANY of that dec and npc garbage. Oh your standings may shift a little but for a big shooty person like you that will just add to the fun, right? There are places where you can shoot. There are other places where you cans hoot but there will be consequences. Your choice, change locale or accept consequences. But lordy, Individual wardecs? Can't see the potential for griefing and abuse? m If you don't have anything constructive to add, then stay out of the discussion. Aren't you supposed to be the highsec CSM? Wardec evasion is a highsec problem. Fix it. www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com Psychotic Monk for CSM9
Mike Azariah DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited 1203	Posted - 2014.06.11 03:02:00 - [26] - Quote Haedonism Bot wrote: If you don't have anything constructive to add, then stay out of the discussion. Aren't you supposed to be the highsec CSM? Wardec evasion is a highsec problem. Fix it. Fix it in what way, pray tell? Reinforce it so any corp may pay and extra ttax to be immune to wardecs? Remove it so hisec is safer? Remove NPC corp safeties so you can gank them right out of the academy as they run their New Player Experience? I have heard all sorts of fixes and none of them seem to agree. So which is your flavour? Safer or more deadly? I am the hisec CSM and I do listen , , , and answer. So what is the goal, what are we trying for? Should PvE activities exist at all. Should we go whole hog PvP and just shut down Hisec completely? Is there a middle ground and are we on it right now? m Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1868	Posted - 2014.06.11 03:27:00 - [27] - Quote Haedonism Bot wrote: If you don't have anything constructive to add, then stay out of the discussion. Aren't you supposed to be the highsec CSM? Wardec evasion is a highsec problem. Fix it. The words security and war should never be in the same sentence. Completely remove wardecs and we can fight it out in low, null, w-holes without all these complications, in places where security and war aren't used in the same sentence. Highsec can have the police and criminals, like most civilized places, but sanctioned war? .... don't think so. There, I've solved your problem. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
malcovas Henderson Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis 172	Posted - 2014.06.11 03:56:00 - [28] - Quote Mike Azariah wrote: Haedonism Bot wrote: If you don't have anything constructive to add, then stay out of the discussion. Aren't you supposed to be the highsec CSM? Wardec evasion is a highsec problem. Fix it. Fix it in what way, pray tell? Reinforce it so any corp may pay and extra ttax to be immune to wardecs? Remove it so hisec is safer? Remove NPC corp safeties so you can gank them right out of the academy as they run their New Player Experience? I have heard all sorts of fixes and none of them seem to agree. So which is your flavour? Safer or more deadly? I am the hisec CSM and I do listen , , , and answer. So what is the goal, what are we trying for? Should PvE activities exist at all. Should we go whole hog PvP and just shut down Hisec completely? Is there a middle ground and are we on it right now? m So you think that me and my 20+ Alts, sitting in an NPC corp, Can create a MERC corp, to bully miners out of the system. While remaining safe in the NPC corp, is fine?
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 1369	Posted - 2014.06.11 04:02:00 - [29] - Quote malcovas Henderson wrote: So you think that me and my 20+ Alts, sitting in an NPC corp, Can create a MERC corp, to bully miners out of the system. While remaining safe in the NPC corp, is fine? Explain to me how the alts in the Merc corp are safe please. And you will then understand the flaw in your argument.
malcovas Henderson Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis 172	Posted - 2014.06.11 04:08:00 - [30] - Quote Nevyn Auscent wrote: malcovas Henderson wrote: So you think that me and my 20+ Alts, sitting in an NPC corp, Can create a MERC corp, to bully miners out of the system. While remaining safe in the NPC corp, is fine? Explain to me how the alts in the Merc corp are safe please. And you will then understand the flaw in your argument. Quite simple. they never log on, unless you are mining . they are also based In same system as NPC corp player. Means your mining is disrupted, and his isn't.

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