If we accept that both names are out of role play, then we can still see that one instance is clearly worse than the other.

I am curious, however, how this actually matters in the context of the original post? How does the way a character is named impact whether or not they are able to cope with the challenges in EVE?

Can you two take the RP discussion to PMs, please. While this thread is from the start a grievous (pun intended) misrepresentation and a false flag, talking about whose RP is more heinous than the other is completely off topic.

You're both equally awful, and God loves you both anyway.

Not objectively, no
I simply pointed out he was in no position to point fingers regarding silly names.

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Objectively yes, it's just like there's a difference between say eating a grape you didn't pay for in the grocery store and stealing a car. Both are stealing, but I doubt most people will consider those to be the same tier of stealing.

How isnt it? Its a name with a proper surname, and proper forename and thousands years of entomological history behind it.

Please help masternerdguy to defend his in-lore name. First you can point to a culture in New Enden that doesnt capitalise give names

Then you can explain how the station he quoted is a worse name than his own, within the lore

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entomology

Not to be confused with Etymology, the study of the history of words

sorry couldn't resist

Giving a character or item a silly name is the same as a federal crime?!

So your spaceship is real too?

Comically missing the point. The point is that even for real offenses (since we are treating being OORP as an "offense") there are different tiers.

For example, in your felony you have different classes representing severity with different punishments. The reasoning is that there are different "levels of severity" in doing something wrong.

That was the point, mate.

Ok, "mate"

I see that

But I still cannot see how being called "danieldaypoous" is to grape-stealing as a station called "Slags for sale" is to car-theft

You havent actually explained the difference, you simply stated that (you believe) there is one

You haven't stated why they aren't. Common sense suggests that one action is worse because it has a broader scope than the other.

As I've stated, the difference is in how localized the effects of the action is.

You are one suggesting they are, so you kinfd of need to provide supporting evidence for your hypothesis

Considering that Station names are not permanent but character names are, and you only see that station if theres a courier contract or you go there (or you own it) and stations cannot post on forums and characters appear in local, how would a station name be broader in scope than a player name?

Station names show up on the map. You are literally putting that stupid name on the map

Besides, devs change offensive character names all the time (Caldari Citizen 3243984798327 etc), but a fly-by in sov null will reveal plenty of station names that, if they were character names, would probably be removed.

And you just proved Ramona's point.

CCP knows that char names have a wider influence, hence why they are usually changed straight away.

Please tell me how often that happens with stations, if your argument holds true.

More than char names?

Or corp names?

You are literally arguing futility.

Walk away.

Besides, devs change offensive character names all the time (Caldari Citizen 3243984798327 etc)(1), but a fly-by in sov null will reveal plenty of station names that, if they were character names, would probably be removed.(2)

They don't change OORP names, they change names that break their EULA.

The point is that character names are not permanent either.

So your spaceship is real, is it?

How is your name within the lore?

the primary purpose of my OP was not to argue lore.

And yet thats the only point you made

Curious

If you shelter and protect new players in the way this article describes, all you are doing is postponing the inevitable. Facts are, as soon as these people hit "real EVE" something will happen that makes them quit. They just aren't suitable to play this game. I don't care how well they do in other MMOs, or how successful they are in the real world, surviving in EVE takes a special kind of resilience that quite frankly most MMO gamers do not have.

And most importantly, you have to learn that it is possible to do everything right and still lose. It's amazing how these real life lessons that most people never seem to learn are also so important in this game, and I believe it speaks volumes on the quality of the universe CCP have created.

To some, money is the only thing that matters. A game is successful because it makes tons of money. But EVE is more important than that. EVE is also an artistic vision, an experiment, and the facts are it has outlasted all the so-called EVE killing competition so far, and stolen players from them in the process. This game is a success by any measure.

Station names show up on the map. You are literally putting that stupid name on the map

Well, you've certainly put yours on the map now.

This is one of the dumbest discussions ever.

Well, you've certainly put yours on the map now.

This is one of the dumbest discussions ever.

How is that the only point I made?

You said quite clearly that MIttens point of view was invalid due to his alliance's non-lore stations

I dont really see how this can be read any other way

I guess I'd never name a station that way because I don't want to set that sort of tone for my organization. But that's just me, and as I've pointed out was far removed from the original point of my OP.

And that makes you a hypocrit, and we are back to square one.

It was an enjoyable game, adversary.

And yet thats the only point you made

Curious