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Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1321
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Posted - 2014.07.29 23:12:00 -
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NIFTYGetAtMe wrote:How arrogant will you be when your precious griefer haven has it's servers shut down due to lack of income?
Stealth "I'm unsubbing because I'm not getting my way!"
You don't deserve to play EVE anyway. Bye. Epic Space Cat |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
49
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Posted - 2014.07.29 23:13:00 -
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NIFTYGetAtMe wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:NIFTYGetAtMe wrote: I thought you said gankers worth their salt check to make sure there is no concord?
I wrote:They already do check for Concord in the belts, it's part of the process for setting up a gank. Read it again, then try to understand what I actually said. If Concord are present on gates and automagically attack people below a certain sec status when they entered a system then that system becomes for all intents and purposes a risk free instance for everything except wardecs, because Concord avoidance is a bannable offence. So HTFU and scout the gates before you gank. If there's CONCORD there, tough luck kid, go somewhere else. Also that's not what you said. It's also not even what you edited your post to say.
That is the definition of make high sec 100% safe, CONCORD are on every gate Mate even if its the little ones in the cool frigates theres at least 1 of them ( except MAYBE .5 and .6 Systems ), your locking people out of high sec to protect your precious miners or whathaveyou not improving the game.
Why cant you see that? Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19876
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Posted - 2014.07.29 23:19:00 -
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NIFTYGetAtMe wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:NIFTYGetAtMe wrote: I thought you said gankers worth their salt check to make sure there is no concord?
I wrote:They already do check for Concord in the belts, it's part of the process for setting up a gank. Read it again, then try to understand what I actually said. If Concord are present on gates and automagically attack people below a certain sec status when they entered a system then that system becomes for all intents and purposes a risk free instance for everything except wardecs, because Concord avoidance is a bannable offence. So HTFU and scout the gates before you gank. If there's CONCORD there, tough luck kid, go somewhere else. How about we leave the mechanics alone, mechanics which are fine and working as intended by CCP, instead of asking CCP to change them to suit you and your ilk.
Quote:Also that's not what you said. It's also not even what you edited your post to say. Actually yes it is, here's a link to the post for your convenience. You will notice that the linked post is actually unedited, the fact that it lacks the words edited by Jonah Gravenstein, next to the little report post flag, is a bit of a giveaway.
Try harder troll. Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine and into the brain, where they ferment. They then migrate to your keyboard via your fingers. That's where shiptoasts come from.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8285
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Posted - 2014.07.29 23:27:00 -
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Besides, any miners worth their salt fly aligned, watch local and don't die anyway.
We shouldn't help the rest of them, in fact, we should actively propose mechanics to eliminate their way of life! Hooray for cognitive dissonance! "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
540
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Posted - 2014.07.29 23:29:00 -
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NIFTYGetAtMe wrote: So HTFU and scout the gates before you gank. If there's CONCORD there, tough luck kid, go somewhere else.
Not gonna lie...this was pretty predictable...and mildly amusing. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8285
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Posted - 2014.07.29 23:34:00 -
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Christopher Mabata wrote: Why cant you see that?
He can. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
890
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Posted - 2014.07.30 01:51:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:NIFTYGetAtMe wrote: So HTFU and scout the gates before you gank. If there's CONCORD there, tough luck kid, go somewhere else.
Not gonna lie...this was pretty predictable...and mildly amusing. It is actually. Of course you can crash a gate camp. You can't do the same to concord. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
257
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Posted - 2014.07.30 09:51:00 -
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NIFTYGetAtMe wrote:I only agree with a couple things in this thread. On grid CONCORD should absolutely agress criminals below a certain sec status, CONCORD response/kill time should be decreased and criminals below a certain sec status should not be able to dock at race controlled staions in high-sec; for example, Caldari Stations in Jita. Ganking should still be a part of the game and criminals, no matter their sec status, should still be allowed in high-sec and should still be a free target for anyone.
The reason you're getting so much resistance against these ideas is because they are bad. Actually, they're not just bad, they're offensive to many of the denizens of New Eden, and flat out heretical to those who truly believe in HTFU.
I'd suggest stepping down from the soapbox, taking the pants off your head, and repenting wholeheartedly for embracing such nonsense.
Who knows, it might even save your virtual life. It surely won't save the life of the next bear I murder in response to this inane tripe.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1241
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Posted - 2014.07.30 13:40:00 -
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The Ganking Avoidance Bible
Ignorance of the laws of HTFU, is not a defense.
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Would you like to know more? |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
264
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:08:00 -
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I have this nagging feeling that, somehow, our logic and reasoning has fallen on deaf ears. This makes me sad.
The question, "Why did you start playing Eve?" comes to mind. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331004 - thank me later |
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lord xavier
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:39:00 -
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13 nonames wrote:I would like to see a harder punishment set out for hi sec gankers such as a sec limiter put in place to make it so anyone with a -6 sec may no longer get into hi sec no more criminal driving around hi security space seeing as a so call advanced society would not have wanted criminal walking the street as well as a faster response time for concord and a new sytem put in place that makes it so the concord on your grid will aggress new and old criminals not just faction police
"No more mean people in high sec please. How are we suppose to make money?!"
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5752
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Posted - 2014.07.30 23:56:00 -
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I'd like to see ABC123 & Sentence Structering for Dummies implemented in to the client. I feel this is more important than what the OP wants. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
264
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Posted - 2014.07.31 00:47:00 -
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at least it's not semi-colons instead of apostrophes heh https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331004 - thank me later |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
392
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Posted - 2014.07.31 02:50:00 -
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Dont forget about the Venture Killing competition running in August!
Full details can be found here!
Let the PVP begin! |
Maeltstome
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
547
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Posted - 2014.08.01 14:14:00 -
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Giuseppe R Raimondo wrote:a way to reduce highsec ganking is to remove the option to turn in tags and buy your security status up. Everyone knew it was a stupied idea when introduced, i am supriced its still a thing
Security status is an abritray, stupid number. It has absolutely no impact until you want to do something in hi-sec.
That statement seems ironic - but consider this: Most hi-sec content is boring and uneventful. It's sub par compared to the effort that's been put into 0.0 gameplay mechanics. However the PEOPLE that play eve MAKE hi-sec interesting... so all security status does is, effectively, curtail who you can play the game with.
That's MMO suicide - so selling tags for sec saves subscriptions. |
Iain Cariaba
Veritas Theory
179
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Posted - 2014.08.02 15:53:00 -
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:I have this nagging feeling that, somehow, our logic and reasoning has fallen on deaf ears. This makes me sad.
The question, "Why did you start playing Eve?" comes to mind. No doubt about the logic on deaf ears bit.
The real queston is this: Before you started playing EvE, did you bother to do any research at all about the kind of game you were getting into or did you just say, "durr, shiney spaceships fun," and start an account? Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8360
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Posted - 2014.08.02 22:46:00 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:I have this nagging feeling that, somehow, our logic and reasoning has fallen on deaf ears. This makes me sad.
The question, "Why did you start playing Eve?" comes to mind. No doubt about the logic on deaf ears bit. The real queston is this: Before you started playing EvE, did you bother to do any research at all about the kind of game you were getting into or did you just say, "durr, shiney spaceships fun," and start an account?
I honestly don't think the latter is possible. I have met very few MMO players who haven't ever heard of EVE. And of those, it's mostly because they have only just started playing MMOs in general, and think that WoW and GW2 and LOTRO are the only ones that exist.
If someone genuinely doesn't know what they're getting into when they sign up, that requires a level of ignorance that is truly hard to maintain. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
2753
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Posted - 2014.08.03 02:10:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Iain Cariaba wrote:Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:I have this nagging feeling that, somehow, our logic and reasoning has fallen on deaf ears. This makes me sad.
The question, "Why did you start playing Eve?" comes to mind. No doubt about the logic on deaf ears bit. The real queston is this: Before you started playing EvE, did you bother to do any research at all about the kind of game you were getting into or did you just say, "durr, shiney spaceships fun," and start an account? I honestly don't think the latter is possible. I have met very few MMO players who haven't ever heard of EVE. And of those, it's mostly because they have only just started playing MMOs in general, and think that WoW and GW2 and LOTRO are the only ones that exist. If someone genuinely doesn't know what they're getting into when they sign up, that requires a level of ignorance that is truly hard to maintain.
Sorry to disappoint, but until December 2012 I'd never heard of EVE. I had signed onto the Star Citizen kickstarter and was reading more about it when i came across references to EVE. Signed up for the trial, thought EVE was pretty cool. Then got podded in hisec by an evil pirate and realized then that EVE was like no game I'd ever played before and also just might be the best game I'd ever played.
I played Star Trek Online, SWTOR, and GW2, but never much looked at 3rd party sites so I never heard about EVE. I wish EVE had planetary missions like STO, spaceships and avatar gameplay are not mutually exclusive, but I was right: EVE is the best game I've ever played. I hope CCP doesn't mess it up by giving in to the carebears. If we're not supposed to shoot pods in hisec, why are they filled with meat? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8372
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Posted - 2014.08.03 02:17:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote: Sorry to disappoint, but until December 2012 I'd never heard of EVE. I had signed onto the Star Citizen kickstarter and was reading more about it when i came across references to EVE. Signed up for the trial, thought EVE was pretty cool. Then got podded in hisec by an evil pirate and realized then that EVE was like no game I'd ever played before and also just might be the best game I'd ever played.
I played Star Trek Online, SWTOR, and GW2, but never much looked at 3rd party sites so I never heard about EVE. I wish EVE had planetary missions like STO, spaceships and avatar gameplay are not mutually exclusive, but I was right: EVE is the best game I've ever played. I hope CCP doesn't mess it up by giving in to the carebears.
O_O
Well, that's the first time I've heard of SC drawing people into EVE, as opposed to the other way around.
Agreed with the general sentiment, however. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Robert Sawyer
NERV Reborn Independent Stars Allied Forces
9
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:22:00 -
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Damn Goons... "And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph." |
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Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
553
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:55:00 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:I have this nagging feeling that, somehow, our logic and reasoning has fallen on deaf ears. This makes me sad.
The question, "Why did you start playing Eve?" comes to mind. No doubt about the logic on deaf ears bit. The real queston is this: Before you started playing EvE, did you bother to do any research at all about the kind of game you were getting into or did you just say, "durr, shiney spaceships fun," and start an account? Personally, I came in knowing full well what I wanted from this game, which is why I've been in nullsec for most of my active played time. Yes, I know you didn't ask me, but still... |
Froggy Storm
Paragon Trust The Bastion
286
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Posted - 2014.08.05 21:13:00 -
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An interesting notion comes to mind with all this talk of -0.5 and balancing actions against criminal elements. Why is there no counter balancing force for people who are +0.5?
Maybe make it so that concord won't respond to such paragons of truth and justice. The actual new players need their help and all that so those who've worked against piracy long enough to get to +0.5 can stand on their own two feet right?
Seems as legit as having concord jump on -0.5 just for being there. And then you'll see the ironic "anti gank" alt for the hardest of bears to keep their sec status down |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
198
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Posted - 2014.08.06 10:51:00 -
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Froggy Storm wrote:An interesting notion comes to mind with all this talk of -0.5 and balancing actions against criminal elements. Why is there no counter balancing force for people who are +0.5?
Maybe make it so that concord won't respond to such paragons of truth and justice. The actual new players need their help and all that so those who've worked against piracy long enough to get to +0.5 can stand on their own two feet right?
Seems as legit as having concord jump on -0.5 just for being there. And then you'll see the ironic "anti gank" alt for the hardest of bears to keep their sec status down Thing is, you've only gotta get a few rookie ships blown up by shooting a station to drop your sec status. No work, just a time sink.
Not that I'm suggesting this, but it actually makes more sense for concord to come to the aid of an upstanding citizen more quickly. If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough. |
412nv Yaken
The Conference Elite CODE.
146
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Posted - 2014.08.06 10:55:00 -
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Froggy Storm wrote:An interesting notion comes to mind with all this talk of -0.5 and balancing actions against criminal elements. Why is there no counter balancing force for people who are +0.5?
Maybe make it so that concord won't respond to such paragons of truth and justice. The actual new players need their help and all that so those who've worked against piracy long enough to get to +0.5 can stand on their own two feet right?
Seems as legit as having concord jump on -0.5 just for being there. And then you'll see the ironic "anti gank" alt for the hardest of bears to keep their sec status down
You have actually had some pretty smart ideas through the forums
+1 A True Champion of High Security Space |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
119
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Posted - 2014.08.06 13:00:00 -
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Not going to happen with loop holes and the fact that CCP itself is making the gankers "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |
Damon Messer
Anonymous Shell Corporation
33
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Posted - 2014.08.06 13:11:00 -
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Froggy Storm wrote:An interesting notion comes to mind with all this talk of -0.5 and balancing actions against criminal elements. Why is there no counter balancing force for people who are +0.5?
Maybe make it so that concord won't respond to such paragons of truth and justice. The actual new players need their help and all that so those who've worked against piracy long enough to get to +0.5 can stand on their own two feet right?
Seems as legit as having concord jump on -0.5 just for being there. And then you'll see the ironic "anti gank" alt for the hardest of bears to keep their sec status down
so if I have 0.5 or higher sec standing i can gank without concord coming?! if that happens you're the first person im going after. |
Froggy Storm
Paragon Trust The Bastion
287
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Posted - 2014.08.07 02:28:00 -
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Damon Messer wrote:Froggy Storm wrote:An interesting notion comes to mind with all this talk of -0.5 and balancing actions against criminal elements. Why is there no counter balancing force for people who are +0.5?
Maybe make it so that concord won't respond to such paragons of truth and justice. The actual new players need their help and all that so those who've worked against piracy long enough to get to +0.5 can stand on their own two feet right?
Seems as legit as having concord jump on -0.5 just for being there. And then you'll see the ironic "anti gank" alt for the hardest of bears to keep their sec status down so if I have 0.5 or higher sec standing i can gank without concord coming?! if that happens you're the first person im going after.
That isn't exactly what I said, but I like your idea better. Let's really make the sec grind worth it if you can then gank one target with impunity.
As for ganking me, you'll have to wait as were currently deployed to the south. But when that's done with vale is only a dozen gates or so from Jita and you're welcome to come say hello.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
273
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Posted - 2014.08.07 13:02:00 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:NIFTYGetAtMe wrote:I only agree with a couple things in this thread. On grid CONCORD should absolutely agress criminals below a certain sec status, CONCORD response/kill time should be decreased and criminals below a certain sec status should not be able to dock at race controlled staions in high-sec; for example, Caldari Stations in Jita. Ganking should still be a part of the game and criminals, no matter their sec status, should still be allowed in high-sec and should still be a free target for anyone. The reason you're getting so much resistance against these ideas is because they are bad. Actually, they're not just bad, they're offensive to many of the denizens of New Eden, and flat out heretical to those who truly believe in HTFU. I'd suggest stepping down from the soapbox, taking the pants off your head, and repenting wholeheartedly for embracing such nonsense. Who knows, it might even save your virtual life. It surely won't save the life of the next bear I murder in response to this inane tripe.
Good lord, I'm quoting myself. No matter, it's relevant. NIFTYGetAtMe, for your ever so bad, heretical, (and did I mention bad?) suggestions/demands in this thread, a carebear has been ritually sacrificed in your name.
2014.08.07 12:28:00
Victim: anonymous victim bear Corp: Federal Navy Academy Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Orthrus System: Oursulaert Security: 0.9 Damage Taken: 22451
Involved parties:
Name: Omar Alharazaad (laid the final blow) Security: 5.00 Corp: Lords.Of.Midnight Alliance: The Devil's Warrior Alliance Faction: None Ship: Incursus Weapon: Light Ion Blaster II Damage Done: 18556
Name: Angel Light Missile Battery / Unknown Damage Done: 3895
Destroyed items:
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile, Qty: 60 Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile, Qty: 4448 (Cargo) Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile, Qty: 60 Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Avrue's Token (Cargo) Navy Cap Booster 100, Qty: 8 Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher Dark Blood Warp Disruptor Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile, Qty: 60
Dropped items:
Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Small I-a Polarized Armor Regenerator (Cargo) Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile, Qty: 61 Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I Adaptive Invulnerability Field I Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile, Qty: 61 Damage Control I Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher
Have a nice day. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4042
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Posted - 2014.08.07 13:35:00 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:*Self-congratulatory post* Doesn't look like a gank.
And when are you guys going to learn that nobody cares about this whole "kill it forward" rubbish you guys spew. In essence, (not sure about this case as I haven;t bothered reading the thread) it's a sign that someone has raised a good point, since you can;t counter the point and instead want to force people not to post by suggesting that you'll gank more if they keep talking (which you won't, since you'd kill those people anyway). The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
274
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Posted - 2014.08.07 13:43:00 -
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You are correct. We do not gank. We, on the other hand, do support the rights of others to gank. We will happily murder anyone who screams bloody murder over the unfairness of ganking... and barring the capacity to do that, we will murder someone else in their name. And to counterpoint, there are those who absolutely do care about the 'rubbish' we spew, you, for example... for if you didn't give 1/16th of a rats arse about it, you wouldn't have bothered posting. Aside from that, about 1/4th of those who I do engage are interested in what it is that we do... not only those who are defeated, but I've also had some pleasant conversations with pilots who have destroyed me. |
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