We will make changes to nullsec

P.S. Really looking forward to the new missions that replace the existing L4's, but won't be able to be completed solo, because CCP does not want players that don't directly engage other players in Eve.

I guess you picked the wrong game then if you are looking for single player content.

I must really be behind the times... I thought she was running the show already after Soundwave went off to Riot.

Who was her predecessor?

CCP Soundwave was.

The seat was empty for a long time, with CCP Pokethulhu filling in as needed.

I don't have a Reddit account, however I do have an honest question.

CCP Seagull has taken EVE in the direction of several smaller updates vs the standard 2 larger updates, and I'd like to know how CCP can support bigger projects such as the POS over hall under the new release structure? I know several of these major projects can not be completed in a small time or by only a handful of individuals. Would putting teams on such a large project over such a long duration impede the ability of CCP to still offer meaningful updates as often as it plans too? Also will you still be planning to put focus on major overhauls of current systems that the Eve Community has rallied behind?

Yes, because you need to talk and fleet up with everybody every frakking time you log in

I guess you picked the wrong game then if you are looking for single player content.

There is nothing wrong about well-designed single player content (which almost absolutely absent from Eve). Those who GRRRR about it remind a baby crying that no one want to play with him. Usually those are the same people who adhere to 3l1t3 3V3 PvP style which implying ganking helpless targets while staying out of any fight which will endanger their KB efficiency. Those pesky carebears GRRR, why why they won't wish to be ganked all the time by such magnificent daredevils as we are!

This is EvE Online, a sandbox mmo-rpg, not kindergarten themepark carebear online, there are alot of other games that suit your needs. Try hello kitty online.

Btw, I ninja edited my post to clerify definitions.
Do you have some s3cr3t l33t PvP Order, handing out propaganda brochures to its agents? Because those cliches, like "kindergarden", "Hallo Kitty" etc surface all over the forum and became sort of vanity words. No one hurt by them or offended anymore. As for main point, there hasn't been one mmo game in the world, who profited in any way from badly implemented PvE. And in Eve PvE is awfull.

Their is no such thing as PvE in EvE Online, every single activity is PvP competiton. Even logging in can be PvP, if you have a keylogger on your computer.

Their is no such thing as PvE in EvE Online, every single activity is PvP competiton. Even logging in can be PvP, if you have a keylogger on your computer.

Pardon my ignorance but who was the former Executive Producer ?

CCP doesn't condone the act of account stealing. It's in no way allowable PvP and account theft is not something CCP has ever promoted as PvP.

Furthermore non-depleting resources like missions are in and of themselves effectively not PvP as doing them itself causes no isk or LP competition (those only become "PvP" later at the market level) and since doing them itself causes no reduction for others their is no competition in the act itself.

In EvE Online, everything is releated with PvP competition, including missions.

I've demonstrated how they aren't, so unless you have reasoning to back it up, your words are a little hollow.

The die is cast, your Rubicon has been crossed, and your plans on enhancing null sec at the expense of high sec will merely accelerate.

I have to really admire the brilliant insight and courage CCP's upper management has displayed by promoting you. Under your watch, the PCU is reaching 4 year lows, and year-over-year subs dropped for the first time ever. But CCP upper management, well, they figure that it is just a blip and by doubling down on your vision of null-sec online is the nirvana that will lead to huge growth in subs and pink ponies for all.

Well done.

P.S. Really looking forward to the new missions that replace the existing L4's, but won't be able to be completed solo, because CCP does not want players that don't directly engage other players in Eve.

You only demonstrated your ignorance on the subject of sandbox mmo-rpg's. EvE Online is all about Player vs Player interactive competition, Gathering Resources, Manufacturing and Destruction, it's all Player vs Player, even when you're logged out.

Missions/Incursions are a sandbox feature (Gathering Resources), the players doing it affect the economy and other players can invade the "dungeon" to steal loot, ninja salvage or even gank.

That's a long way of saying you can't justify you position. Basing you claim on "What eve is" and what people can do doesn't change the nature of what a missioner is doing in itself. If others aren't interacting with the missioner, which is the case the vast majority of the time, the only factors are the environment, a series on non-player entities, and the player, often just one, interacting with those entities.

Those are the basic mechanics of missioning. Ganking/stealing/ninja-salvaging are not a part of those basic mission mechanics and aren't frequently encountered. That being the case there is more often than not no other player interacting to make PvE into PvP. Additionally I've already stated how missioning in itself provides no economic competition.

No, wrong again. The simple fact that you are in a sandbox doing a activity like a mission influences everyone, you are affecting the economy, you are competing with other players, you are doing PvP.

Yay. Be better than Soundwave.

What's in Hyp?

Please tell me what I am reading is wrong......

We have now 2 back to back GOON Exec Producers of this game I used to enjoy quite a bit.

More like good luck to us non goon eve players....we are gonna need it.

Please tell me what I am reading is wrong......

We have now 2 back to back GOON Exec Producers of this game I used to enjoy quite a bit.

More like good luck to us non goon eve players....we are gonna need it.

You sure she is a goon?
I never saw confirmation one way or the other, but would be not surprised if she is.

Yes because the executive producer of a real life game company is going to risk her carreer and the entire company she works at to get some extra space pixels and imaginary respect from the equally imaginary space marauders of Something Awful.

Get your head checked if you really believe this non-sense.

You sure she is a goon?
I never saw confirmation one way or the other, but would be not surprised if she is.

First of, congratulations. You have a challenging road ahead and I admire you for daring to take it.

I'd like to say that while I enjoy your presentations and agree with the message you're trying to get across, I don't particularly trust CCP these days any more than I trust politicians. A lot of what's been said is exactly what we want to hear, but the actions have been often counter-productive to EVE. In other words, we'll be watching what happens closely, not what's said or promised.


Regarding "EVE is dying " bit. I don't think it is and as long as it remains without competition it's pretty safe, however I don't think anyone will dispute the fact that it has been stagnating for a while now. In my humble opinion, one of the big reasons for this stagnation is CCP's stubborn thinking that they know whatGÇÖs best for the game and players.

EVE client today is arguably much better than it was four years ago, but this progress has been made with several "three steps forward, two steps back" expansion/releases. It is progress yes, but the problem is that most of the people will focus on the negative. They will notice certain aspects of the game declining and withering. They will see their hard work, advice and feedback swept aside and ignored. They will start to feel as if CCP forgot what EVE is about and stopped caring about their players. While the overall picture may be improving, the progress is slow and small; at the same time it is alienating much of EVE's population by forcing careless changes that few if any asked for.

This negativity and feeling of helplessness serves to set in apathy. I may be one voice among thousands but I promise you that many out of the hundreds of people I've met in EVE are growing more apathetic every year. I think the only way to reverse this trend is to once again empower the players, the true masters of the game.

Call me arrogant, but I don't view CCP as the developers of EVE, I think of them as its custodians. Most of us who play EVE are not here because we enjoy staring at our mining lasers stripping away an asteroid. We are not here because we saw an epic trailer about saving the Damsel from Kruul. We do not wake up at 5 in the morning for an op because we think TiDi is fun. We do all of this for other reasons, reasons which are provided by other players, not CCP. With every action we take, we feel empowered. Our actions matter because they affect the people and the environment around us. We write the rules and break them. We define the game and dictate itGÇÖs development. We make the experience awesome and worthwhile. Even CCP with their statements, trailers and ads admits the fact that EVEGÇÖs epicness comes from its players, not from the client. I seem to be stating the obvious but then why does the gameGÇÖs development process not honor and endorse this obvious fact.

Why does CCP continue to think that they know whatGÇÖs best for the game when almost every single feature ever released has been hijacked and redefined by players in their own nefarious or benevolent image. Ask ten EVE players what is EVE and you will get twelve different answers, but I bet they will agree that the reason they play it is because itGÇÖs a sandbox. That means we get the tools, the sand and water from CCP but we build and destroy our own sandcastles, in our own creative way. Diversify the sandbox by giving us more tools rather than your own version of sandcastles to build. Give us more possibilities rather than limiting us to fewer options that you consider meaningful. Expand the way with which we communicate, interact and affect each other rather than adding more swings and merry-go-rounds.

Listen to your community, and IGÇÖm not talking about just CSM. They do a lot of hard work but they do not represent the majority. You have a lot of bright and talented people in this game who spends hours playing, researching, discussing, and testing to improve this game. They are as vested in itGÇÖs growth as anyone else and together we can propel EVE into its third decade.


Rant TLDR:
Grats! Plz give us better shovels, more sand, more tools instead of shiny content and blueprints for building your castles. We'll design, build and destroy our own damn sandcastles. If you want growth, empower and excite the players to be (inter)active rather than limiting us down your pre-defined path.

At least 2 maybe 3 other people in this thread prior to my post have made comments about her being a Goon. I am just asking if it's true, or was ever true?

I believe we deserve an answer, in the interest of transparency.

WE do pay her salary.

Nothing to hide right???

So in other words, I didn't say that they have no impact GÇö like you claimed GÇö but that they are wholly unnecessary and can be removed without ill effects. In fact, the fact that they have an impact is a key component in the whole bitching about them partGǪ

Carebears are players who falsely believe that they live in a bubble and that what they do has no impact on anyone else and that, therefore, no-one should be allowed to have an impact on them. And take note here: it is not about activities, but about attitude and belief. Almost any activity can be carebeared; all activities (including the ones that tend to attract carbears) can be done without carebearing it up.

First of, congratulations. You have a challenging road ahead and I admire you for daring to take it.

I'd like to say that while I enjoy your presentations and agree with the message you're trying to get across, I don't particularly trust CCP these days any more than I trust politicians. A lot of what's been said is exactly what we want to hear, but the actions have been often counter-productive to EVE. In other words, we'll be watching what happens closely, not what's said or promised.


Regarding "EVE is dying " bit. I don't think it is and as long as it remains without competition it's pretty safe, however I don't think anyone will dispute the fact that it has been stagnating for a while now. In my humble opinion, one of the big reasons for this stagnation is CCP's stubborn thinking that they know whatGÇÖs best for the game and players.

EVE client today is arguably much better than it was four years ago, but this progress has been made with several "three steps forward, two steps back" expansion/releases. It is progress yes, but the problem is that most of the people will focus on the negative. They will notice certain aspects of the game declining and withering. They will see their hard work, advice and feedback swept aside and ignored. They will start to feel as if CCP forgot what EVE is about and stopped caring about their players. While the overall picture may be improving, the progress is slow and small; at the same time it is alienating much of EVE's population by forcing careless changes that few if any asked for.

This negativity and feeling of helplessness serves to set in apathy. I may be one voice among thousands but I promise you that many out of the hundreds of people I've met in EVE are growing more apathetic every year. I think the only way to reverse this trend is to once again empower the players, the true masters of the game.

Call me arrogant, but I don't view CCP as the developers of EVE, I think of them as its custodians. Most of us who play EVE are not here because we enjoy staring at our mining lasers stripping away an asteroid. We are not here because we saw an epic trailer about saving the Damsel from Kruul. We do not wake up at 5 in the morning for an op because we think TiDi is fun. We do all of this for other reasons, reasons which are provided by other players, not CCP. With every action we take, we feel empowered. Our actions matter because they affect the people and the environment around us. We write the rules and break them. We define the game and dictate itGÇÖs development. We make the experience awesome and worthwhile. Even CCP with their statements, trailers and ads admits the fact that EVEGÇÖs epicness comes from its players, not from the client. I seem to be stating the obvious but then why does the gameGÇÖs development process not honor and endorse this obvious fact.

Why does CCP continue to think that they know whatGÇÖs best for the game when almost every single feature ever released has been hijacked and redefined by players in their own nefarious or benevolent image. Ask ten EVE players what is EVE and you will get twelve different answers, but I bet they will agree that the reason they play it is because itGÇÖs a sandbox. That means we get the tools, the sand and water from CCP but we build and destroy our own sandcastles, in our own creative way. Diversify the sandbox by giving us more tools rather than your own version of sandcastles to build. Give us more possibilities rather than limiting us to fewer options that you consider meaningful. Expand the way with which we communicate, interact and affect each other rather than adding more swings and merry-go-rounds.

Listen to your community, and IGÇÖm not talking about just CSM. They do a lot of hard work but they do not represent the majority. You have a lot of bright and talented people in this game who spends hours playing, researching, discussing, and testing to improve this game. They are as vested in itGÇÖs growth as anyone else and together we can propel EVE into its third decade.


Rant TLDR:
Grats! Plz give us better shovels, more sand, more tools instead of shiny content and blueprints for building your castles. We'll design, build and destroy our own damn sandcastles. If you want growth, empower and excite the players to be (inter)active rather than limiting us down your pre-defined path.

I suspect she is a goon but like most CCP dev's and others with influence will also have a foot in the door of other alliances and aspects of eve including carebear miners, PVE Players, Gankers, scammers, griefers and noobs.

However if her vision of the game is centred towards a single philosopy such as goons (but could be another) with the exlusion of others such as carebears then the game will continue to lose its balance which at the moment is heading towards a game of griefing, scamming, bullying and dare i say it, cheating. I would hope most good developers consider the impact of changes on the whole game but the last few years we have seen little sign of that.

I don't think devs would be wise to state the alliance they are in it would harm the alliance, unless of course the developer was a senior figure within the alliance rather than a lemmings with little influence.

However devs do need to test the game at all levels and if they need to magic a titan and the skills to fly then I guess thats got to be accepted, would be a waste of resources to ask them to mine for it. So long as they dont magic themselves and their friends too much stuff as has happend before

I will come back to the game I used to love when I see more balance and a role for small corps and solo play. Being forced to join an alliance and move to null sec is not for me. I seen it, done it and I have many t-shirts. I dont have the time to make eve a way of life, but I do want eve to be a part of my life, just for a few hours here and there. If CCP decide they wont support this style of play then elite is out soon and maybe that will be what I am looking for?

If my isk and LP never hit the market, how am I affecting the economy? Also how is my missioning competing with anyone under that same circumstance?

I suspect she is a goon but like most CCP dev's and others with influence will also have a foot in the door of other alliances and aspects of eve including carebear miners, PVE Players, Gankers, scammers, griefers and noobs.

Apart from it being against CCP internal rules for devs to be in null sec alliances. Their are also not allowed to use mics so that means they cant join most null sec alliances anyway.

#1Posted: 2014.07.25 23:32 | Report
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"The massively-multiplayer online game set in space, Eve Online, recently got a new executive producer, and she wants to empower the game's existing players so they can help bring new players to the game."

Does she not know that the EVE player base is WHY new players do not stick around?

"The shift of power to the players is also a sign of Nordgren putting faith in the community's"

This is one naive person.

Read the full story here http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/25/5935863/eve-online-andie-nordgren

CCP needs to add more content both for PVP and PVE, SOV needs a rework missions need to be revamped and not so dull.
Many Many things need to be done by CCP to the core of the game to keep the new players in the Game.
Keeping it up to the players to do so is laughable.
I personally think leaving it up to the player base the game will become even more niche than it already is.

As much as people like to ***** about players who Rat and do Incursions and missions and INDY
Those activities is why EVE even has an economy in the first place
If it was up to the EVE player base they would make the game Pure pvp and full time gank fest.

Without Indy we will have no ships to fly, without incursion runners and missioners / ratters we would have no ISK for people to buy ships and if people did not buy ships we would not have INDY players taking the time to make the ships.
PLEX would be worthless because noone would have ISK to buy them.

The Content that is going to keep a new player active is not going to be player driven content it is going to be ISK driven content. Once the new players have some ISK to gamble with and a solid feel for the game then they will turn towards PVP, it needs to be a progression thing.

If CCP thinks New Players will stay based on player made content they are out of their minds and we will continue to see lower numbers online over the next few years.

What are your thoughts on how to keep EVE growing and get new players to stay?

Firstly congrats to CCP Seagull on her new position(s)

So you never spend any of the bounty or mission rewards you get from PvE, you never trade in your LP for stuff?

Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

if my isk and LP never hit the market, how am I affecting the economy? Also how is my missioning competing with anyone under that same circumstance?

In EvE Online, everything is releated with PvP competition, including missions.

You mine and refine the ore and build everything you fly/use/fit from NPC bought, researched blueprints?

Interesting and would certainly appreciate a link to back this up.

I also am very interested in finding out if this is true or just some more BS damage control.

Congrats! Is it true you had to defeat another dev in combat to the death?

I really like how active CCP Seagul is in this thread. Hopefully she will keep up this level of engagement with community during whole time of her reign over Eve.

I really like how active CCP Seagul is in this thread. Hopefully she will keep up this level of engagement with community during whole time of her reign over Eve.

"Discussion" over tinfoil regarding her in-game affiliation is completely not interesting to me, I am more curious why she organizes AMA outside of official Eve forums. And there was a couple of questions along the way before *gasp!* :grrr goons: and probably there would be more questions if only Her Majesty would decide to honor us with her presence.

EDIT:

So I went to that reddit AMA thread and read questions and answers and I have this picture in my head: an invisible man using sign language to answer questions of a blind person. Basically that's the amount of content that gets back from our new EP. We have ideas, we talk, we have something in works, soon but :reasons: Oh, and :vacation time:

And I really love how she wrote whole few paragraphs why she is so vague about everything: because :reasons: and she doesn't want to promise anything that cannot be delivered. So yeah, shareable overviews. OMG, I'm psyched like a mofo!