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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:28:00 -
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Our policy is to attempt to disable ships in order to aquire a passage fee.
In all fairness, my little scout wasn't asked for a fee before he was vapourized...
Then again, it's probably my own fault for sending him there in an Ibis...
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
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Sexxsi
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:29:00 -
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Sexxsi if you don't know what you are talking about STFU
You petitioned what U think is happening not what is actualy happening
I was actually shot by a sentry gun after I was actually shot by someone in SI and dared to fight back.
not really sure why you're getting so upset with me...perhaps I'm one of the few who's publicizing what actually happens during your little exploit? Getting mad at me for letting everyone know what's going on?
I wasn't some n00b in an indy, or a defenseless shuttle, I came out there looking to fight you guys. I came armed, and I lasted longer than the people you were used to one-shotting, so unlike many of them, I got to watch what was going on.. Your reaction to me has me firmly convinced that this is nothing more than an exploit.
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Lex Luger
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Lex Luger on 02/10/2003 18:37:34
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I was actually shot by a sentry gun after I was actually shot by someone in SI and dared to fight back.
Would you be able to show any logs that prove that? Until you do Im gona say that you are a liar.
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Sexxsi
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:39:00 -
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Would you be able to show any logs that prove that? Until you do Im gona say that you are a liar.
Possibly.. Is there a place where the game log(the ones that records all the "so-and-so shot you for x amount of damage") saves in the cache anywhere? I looked when I was doing the petition because I assumed the GM would ask, but he didn't, just told me it was an exploit and would be dealt with.
I couldn't find anything when I looked, and the log itself blanked out when I was ported back to my clone after they podded me, just like it always does when you warp or jump or dock.
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Spoadfeld
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:39:00 -
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I still don't see why this is an exploit - If you have the opportunity to jam the sentry guns too.
That way, you have the chance to turn the guns on your attackers.
Also, anyone who jams a sentry gun while no-one is around is pretty stuck if no-one turns up because as soon as they try to get away (breaking the jam) the gun will turn on them.
I only came across this thread tonight and havn't seen this tactic in use anywhere, so might be wrong, but if there is a defence, then it can't be an exploit - or am I missing something?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:45:00 -
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"Possibly.. Is there a place where the game log(the ones that records all the "so-and-so shot you for x amount of damage") saves in the cache anywhere?"
... Whoever was involved in destruction of your ship is listed in the Concord evemail. 'Tis includes the faction which owns the sentry guns, if they indeed were shooting... non?
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:46:00 -
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your not missing anything, its not an exploit, its being creative and adaptable.
And i so loooooooveeeee this thread, its really getting to some of you, isn't it?
a scorpion and you'll know
This is not a hijack
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:47:00 -
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"WD who ever said .4 systems were safe? did ccp ever say that sentry guns were unavoidable for the pirates?"
If a system has sentry guns at the gates, the reason they were put there was to stop pirates from shooting pilots passing through without taking some kind of risk (i.e. if they shoot a pilot within range of the gate, the sentry gun attacks the aggressor, so they can't sit there and keep shooting). Why else would sentry guns be there? To aid negative sec players in gate camping, LOL!
This whole thing is such a joke, I can't believe all the support for such an obvious game flaw! It's truly amazing.
Negative sec players using sentry guns to thier advantage, just step back and take a macro look at the whole situation... Obviously this should not be happening, I'm sure CCP did not intend for this to happen.
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Dirty Sanchez
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:50:00 -
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I haven't seen any proof that they are using them to there advantage. I would agree if that is the case. I have heard that they are just avoiding them, and what is wrong with that?
<Thrak> I AM ***
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mk ultra
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:52:00 -
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Check out my last post on page 6 im sure thats how they do it :)
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<Beeth> Girls are like internet domain names, the ones I like are already taken.
<honx> well, you can stil get one from a strange country :-P
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Sexxsi
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:54:00 -
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... Whoever was involved in destruction of your ship is listed in the Concord evemail. 'Tis includes the faction which owns the sentry guns, if they indeed were shooting... non?
yeah, I still have that, but is that acceptable? seems I'd just get accused of faking it if I posted the concord evemail.
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:02:00 -
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Dirty Sanchez
ROFL! 
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
-Freidrich Nietzche |
Archain
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:03:00 -
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Translation: we will use loopholes in game mechanics anywhere possible to make our griefing tactics safer for us. It's not an exploit until CCP decides it is, so for now we will continue to use bad game mechanics to grief those players who happen to pass through a 0.4 system where they were led to believe the sentry guns will protect them from gate campers.
If pirating = griefing you can be sure I won't be buying your dictionary anytime soon and I sure as hell will never hire you as a translator. Of course in your world they are probably synonyms anyway.
Just relax, brother =)
Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:06:00 -
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"If pirating = griefing you can be sure I won't be buying your dictionary anytime soon and I sure as hell will never hire you as a translator"
In SI's version of the dictionary:
Pirating = Gate Camping.
They recieved this dictionary as a gift from a retired m0o griefer. (who quit the game because of people like me, YAY!)
"Trust No One" |
Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:07:00 -
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"WD who ever said .4 systems were safe? did ccp ever say that sentry guns were unavoidable for the pirates?"
If a system has sentry guns at the gates, the reason they were put there was to stop pirates from shooting pilots passing through without taking some kind of risk (i.e. if they shoot a pilot within range of the gate, the sentry gun attacks the aggressor, so they can't sit there and keep shooting). Why else would sentry guns be there? To aid negative sec players in gate camping, LOL!
This whole thing is such a joke, I can't believe all the support for such an obvious game flaw! It's truly amazing.
Negative sec players using sentry guns to thier advantage, just step back and take a macro look at the whole situation... Obviously this should not be happening, I'm sure CCP did not intend for this to happen.
I'm tempted to reveal what's really going on just to see the look on your face :)
Do you have a webcam?
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:12:00 -
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"If pirating = griefing you can be sure I won't be buying your dictionary anytime soon and I sure as hell will never hire you as a translator"
In SI's version of the dictionary:
Pirating = Gate Camping.
They recieved this dictionary as a gift from a retired m0o griefer. (who quit the game because of people like me, YAY!)
No in SI's verion of the dictionary:
Pirating = Extortion.
What you're ****ed about is TomB uses the same dictionary:
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[ 2003.10.01 23:44:28 ] Jash Illian > TomB, what do you see as the "pirate's income"? Those that go through the more difficult route to 'hijack' people at gates cannot force anyone to pay (they self-destruct, escape if given too long, logout, warp away before they can be locked and scrambled). And those that destroy people out of hand essentially roll the dice as to what they'll get for loot (been known to receive no loot before or blow the millions in megacyte to dust). So what is your idea of how a pirate is supposed to make a buck worth the restrictions and the added risk? And please fix the missile blowback and sending battleships zooming away
[ 2003.10.01 23:46:07 ] TomB > Pirate hi-jaking has always been my dream, but making it into a good feature will be a difficult task
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:12:00 -
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"I'm tempted to reveal what's really going on just to see the look on your face :)
Do you have a webcam?"
Why don't you then, like someone said, what do I care, I only have 8 days left...
"Trust No One" |
Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:13:00 -
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I'm tempted to reveal what's really going on just to see the look on your face :)
Do you have a webcam?
Given the amount of risk and ingenuity SI has gone through to come up with this, don't do this group of whiners any favors.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Archain
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:15:00 -
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lol, I've actually got a video already made of what we are doing. It's 69 Megs in size, but I've only showed it to our corp so far.
Dwarf, I'm purely convinced that I can't change your mind...and to tell you the truth I don't really care. You're quitting, what does it matter to me or my corpmates? We know it's not an exploit.
Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:15:00 -
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Why don't you then, like someone said, what do I care, I only have 8 days left...
Because if he did, every 2-bit wannabe in a Scorpion would be stealing SI's juice.
More fun to watch people beat thier heads against a problem that's so bloody simple.
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
-Freidrich Nietzche |
WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:15:00 -
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"[ 2003.10.01 23:46:07 ] TomB > Pirate hi-jaking has always been my dream, but making it into a good feature will be a difficult task"
Sounds like the Dev's have not truely implemented TomB's dream, sounds like they have more work to do...
"Trust No One" |
Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:16:00 -
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Given the amount of risk and ingenuity SI has gone through to come up with this, don't do this group of whiners any favors.
I'm afraid they'd kill me, and I wouldn't want to hurt lianhaun and viceroy's feelings :(
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:18:00 -
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Check out my last post on page 6 im sure thats how they do it :)
nice idea, but no 
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pooti
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:41:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=25482
According to that patch you can't jam empire owned sentry guns.
So.
Also, if you dudes are doing what I think you're doing there's gonna be another system of very unhappy people rather soon :)
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:46:00 -
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This thread got very old very quickly.
Why don't some of you declare war on SPVD if you're so outraged? 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:49:00 -
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This thread got very old very quickly.
Why don't some of you declare war on SPVD if you're so outraged?
Because then they'd be like WhiteTroll: Corpless and quitting.
Where is your corp, Whitedwarf? You're l33t Roid-Combat skills couldn't keep yall from bankruptcy?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
J3tt
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Posted - 2003.10.02 20:03:00 -
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what could it be?
::Plays jeopardy theme songr::
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Can your pod outrun a cruise missle? |
Sexxsi
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Posted - 2003.10.02 20:14:00 -
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ok, well, nobody said not to, so here's copy-n-paste from the evemails I got..
first when I blew up:
2003.10.01 05:45:00 Report: The destruction of your ship
2003.10.01 05:45:00
Involved parties:
Mastema
Caldari State
J3tt
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then when i was podded:
2003.10.01 05:46:00 Report: The killing of your pod
2003.10.01 05:46:00
Involved parties:
h4x0
J3tt
Mastema
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.10.02 20:17:00 -
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Pirate one warps out, leaving you as agressor (as the other three didnt really shoot at you).
The sentry gun sees you as only agressor and start firing and blow your ship up.
Then the Space Invaders blow up your pod
Damend good thinking, lads, damned good thinking.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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h4x0
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Posted - 2003.10.02 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: h4x0 on 02/10/2003 20:45:02
You know before this post, I was beginning to think that everyone in Eve were whiny carebears. Now I only think that 90% of you people are whiny carebears. To the other 10% of you, I definately appreciate you keeping this to yourselves. As I am sure every one else in SI does as well. Makes me love this game even more. Thanks
Discorp, Scorpion, Veruna=Badass, and as far as I am concerned you guys will not be fired upon. (but that is just me m8's), dont know how others feel
(Money, who said anything about money) Mastema just wants your corpse.
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Mastema: Milkshakes have icecream in them, you are drinking flavored milk, ya jackass.
Jade Constantine > looks like you blasted the crap out of a load of our ships again
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