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Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.03 14:25:00 - [181] Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: Dianabolic I remember sitting on the old CFS teamspeak ganking people in JK-FIX on my pirate alt if that makes any difference :$ I guess I could un-mothball her for a showing :D where u in CFS too Nah, I considered joining but the whole thing was setup to fail horribly, imo, too much red tape.
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.03 14:35:00 - [182] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: Dianabolic I remember sitting on the old CFS teamspeak ganking people in JK-FIX on my pirate alt if that makes any difference :$ I guess I could un-mothball her for a showing :D where u in CFS too Nah, I considered joining but the whole thing was setup to fail horribly, imo, too much red tape. QFT Hope that fixed it, if not, let me know.
Machiavelli7 Gallente Obsidian Asylum Pure.	Posted - 2006.08.03 15:16:00 - [183] For me, the most interesting aspect of this thread is seeing certain individuals take a very revisionist approach to history. There's dirt under some of those stones. Whitewashing ftl
xenodia Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2006.08.03 16:00:00 - [184] Well, peoples memories are often colored by their perspective. Were talking about a period in EVE when a lot of stuff happened in a fairly short time, and that time was years ago. Throw in all the different sides in the various conflicts, and the fact that many of the prominent players in those events have left the game for a while, then come back (and in some cases left and come back more than once), and its understandable that things are a bit muddled. TNT Killboard
Aeon Yakati Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.03 16:08:00 - [185] Originally by: Machiavelli7 For me, the most interesting aspect of this thread is seeing certain individuals take a very revisionist approach to history. There's dirt under some of those stones. Whitewashing ftl Those certain individuals sure seem to be very interested in telling their side of 'what really happened'. It does provide some interesting reading though, specifically how several sides seem to think/argue that their point of view is the unbiased one. Btw good to see ya still playing, mach :)
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.03 17:41:00 - [186] In truth, I think there was far too much emotion involved around the events in those days for anyone not to have some biased opinions. Time and distance makes a difference for a lot of people though. Remember the fallout when various CFS members left for CA corps? At the time, for some it was like some huge betrayal to everything they stood for.... now it's kinda meh. Look at Edison for example, who would hold it against him for being in Shinra now... but back when Shinra was one of the main aggressors in CFS space, it would have been a big deal. Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.
Reiisha Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2006.08.03 22:39:00 - [187] If only i had stayed in the elections that time.... Hmm.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.04 15:23:00 - [188] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii frantik was the best scout you could ever have on an op.most amazing scanner. i have a couple of memories of delve. back in the day when the conquerable stations first came in i was a fleet commander of FA in the corporation Xanadu. we had made plans to be online right after dt to get in on the station free for all. well that was the plan. i slept in Anyways the fleet goes on anyways and makes it's way to 5-6 which has already been claimed by some corp ( geko or something) we ended up fighting over it for a day or two but in the end it was ours. i think that day gave tornsoul and sastul one of thier most interesting political experiences in the game. i just shot stuff :). and that was about it, some m0o killings/ mining :P remember m0o working with tyrell mining in PB. and thats about it. lo tornsoul We did the same thing when those conquerables came out. Except thanks to Darkwolf (australia) and some crazy euro's we managed to get people online and take 5 out of the 6 conquerables under SA space. We were never working with m0o... your thinking of Techell... how we fit into the picture one of our stations in paragon soul is a few jumps from delve. Tyrian Soltuer would go up there in his brand new interceptor (they had just been introduce) and bust up huge mining ops with half a dozen m0o battleships shooting and missing. Pop went the cans and home went the Techell miners.
Edison Frisk Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.04 18:00:00 - [189] Originally by: Avernus In truth, I think there was far too much emotion involved around the events in those days for anyone not to have some biased opinions. Time and distance makes a difference for a lot of people though. Remember the fallout when various CFS members left for CA corps? At the time, for some it was like some huge betrayal to everything they stood for.... now it's kinda meh. Look at Edison for example, who would hold it against him for being in Shinra now... but back when Shinra was one of the main aggressors in CFS space, it would have been a big deal. we are all carebears in shinra now so its all good
Rufus Kex Genco	Posted - 2006.08.05 02:42:00 - [190] CFS was a joke and has always been. No military force and no threat, just politics among stupid americans that never lead anywhere except maybe on the forums. BA was the only big force down in the Fix back in the days, before m0o came there and sort of laid carnage to all of it. I could write a long post about all the Empyrean Federation Drama including Morkt Drak and Fargas and all the corps that defied us, especially Ends Journey (one guy with 10 accounts or so) that stripmined the hell out of the area down where all the DSMA and FA and **** would eventually fight, but it was still the EF who cliamed it first. Suppose all this thread's history would have been different if people understood that we were not CFS. Before the conquerable stations were introduced we had a secure area in t-m0fa with 100 (10x10) giant secure containers that we filled with ore and loot. Empyrean Federation owned all that space from autumn 2003 unto the conquerable stations where introduced. When was it, like summer 2004? We took the first station there before Xanadu fought us off, so we battled with them until we realized we didn't have that much a chance against the Fountain Legacy of endless ark+bist. It was strange times because CA was at war with FA and took the station every now and then from them with their attack teams (mainly Shinra). A Delve Alliance was formed, but it was under the pawn of FA as Xanadu owned the stations there, to defend the station from Curse. A stupid mess, since especially DSMA came and wanted their piece of the cake aswell. I don't remember what happened after that, since I quit the game about then, but I think FA eventually gave up (died) and the alliance of Delve became a political reality, taking over the area. (I have no idea who controls the area since like....autumn 2004).

Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.05 02:59:00 - [191] Originally by: Rufus Kex I hope all the people who were part of CFS died a horrible death since then. Seriously. Very much alive and kicking. Seriously. Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03!
Doppleganger Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.05 04:51:00 - [192] Originally by: Machiavelli7 For me, the most interesting aspect of this thread is seeing certain individuals take a very revisionist approach to history. There's dirt under some of those stones. Whitewashing ftl Yeah some of it is even T2 whitewashing.
Kunming Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.05 17:06:00 - [193] Originally by: Rift Scorn Originally by: Rufus Kex I hope all the people who were part of CFS died a horrible death since then. Seriously. Very much alive and kicking. Seriously. Same here. Seriously CFS was a dream to have an alliance without any limitations and boring politics all day long, it turned out to be just the opposite in the end. But no matter the outcome it was very good experience for the few pilots who were willing to fight.
BOldMan Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.05 19:34:00 - [194] Originally by: Rift Scorn Originally by: Rufus Kex I hope all the people who were part of CFS died a horrible death since then. Seriously. Very much alive and kicking. Seriously. ohh. we are everywhere is fun and hot. I am shocked how many cfs-schoolmates are in game. Period basis was like an school period for everybody.
Rover Vitesse Gallente Crisis Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.05 20:31:00 - [195] Originally by: Rift Scorn Originally by: Rufus Kex I hope all the people who were part of CFS died a horrible death since then. Seriously. Very much alive and kicking. Seriously. Never looked back since the PB days. Taught me more about interaction with people in an MMORPG and how to motivate people in a game than anything else. It was the school of hard knocks, and looking at the people who have posted in this thread, it looks like quite a few others have thrived since the end of the CFS/DSMA etc etc. Rovers Chronicles
Planek Lynx Frontier Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.05 20:40:00 - [196] CFS owned Querious Delve and Period Basis. Delve was sort of shared with FA and CFS. CFS fell when FA decided to take over which led to the end of CFS. I was in CFS. :) So FA owned where bob was along with fountain. Thats when bob came in and took over it all.
Kashre Minmatar Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:04:00 - [197] Edited by: Kashre on 05/08/2006 23:13:16 Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor The M0o guy running for president of CFS was Stavros. He was probably backed by Ends. HAHAHAHAHA! That's like the ultimate CFS inside joke right there. +++ "Etiquette is for the Dojo. In war there is only victory or death." - Eiji Yoshikawa
S3VYN Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.06 06:26:00 - [198] I can't say precisely why, but I wanted to post somewhere in this topic. After watching you guys rehash some things I figured now may be a good time to at least contribute a post... without worthwhile content. .: DEAD AND LOVING IT :.
Bizarre TAOSP	Posted - 2006.08.06 14:32:00 - [199] To elaborate on a few things. When the conquerable stations were introduced I had the entire Xanadu corp logged off in Y-2ANO before DT as we were expecting a station to spawn down there. However much to our surprise Fountain did not get any conquerable stations, but we did notice Delve got three of them. So, without consulting any councils I made the call to move into Delve and claim them before someone else could (I believe we quickly devided the stations among Xanadu, FIV and another corp). This move resulted in a 1-2 day war with CFS and Morkt Drahkt's alliance. The Delve stations remained under FA control for a very very long time and I believe it was finally Shinra or BoB who took control of them. Onto Period Basis... FA never really had an interest in PB until m0o started moving inthere together with Techell (as you may recall m0o gave FA quite an asskicking before that). It became a habit to move down to PB once in a while to try and fight m0o, Techell or ATUK. We never bothered with the station up until m0o finally moved out and Techell were on their own. Once we finally had the station it was in the hands of BIG for about a year and the rest has been summed up by others already. ------------------ WOTANKN > WOTAN-KN + BIZARRE= SIR MOLLE
Mitch Taylor Caldari Dark-Rising Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.06 15:55:00 - [200] There is a little bit thats been missed, My memory is not excellent so excuse if not 100% accurate. After SHINRA moved out of PB the area became contested between FA and SMASH/RUBRA etc. FA were not really fighting and the coalition took TPAR-G. From there they began incursions into PS to fight us (Stain at the time). Stain contacted FA to ask them to control their region as we had a NAP with FA at that time. FA said they would but for whatever reason it never happened. At the point the Stain fleets that had been camping GM4GK were ordered to enter Period Basis and begin to assualt TPAR-G some lovely battles took place there and the surounding systems. After many fights and many losses on both sides TPAR-G fell to Stain and Darroch of SFHI took control of the station. That evening the representative for Fountain arrived for us to formally hand the station to them , the pilot was from Damage Industries. We gaurded this corp as they re-took the station from us. The next morning after downtime the deceit was clear, as of dt the corp had left FA to join RUBRA/SMASH, we had been tricked! (loved the roleplay lads) The fighting continued until BOB turned up properly and stabilised the region with kunning use of I win button. FA fell back to fountain and the rest is history yet to be written. PLEASE NOTE THIS IS SHORT VERSION ONE SIDED AND NOT IN ANYWAY 100% ACCURATE. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD TO IT :) http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/mitchnew.gif signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit([email protected])

Baun Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.07 04:26:00 - [201] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: TornSoul .... selective memory...... I am quite shocked that you have chosen to omit one of the key factors that caused CFS/UFS to crumble as quickly as they did. CFS/UFS had the intention of also capturing querious.. and who was there at the time TornSoul? Was in not QDF/FIX (Querious Defence Force) that broke the 100 man CFS fleet that came to take Querious? Was it not the QDF/FIX fleets that then blocked the A2-V27 pipeline and NEVER allowed another UFS/CFS fleet of any significance to enter the south? The QDF broke the CFS's back and handed victory to you on a silver platter. CFS got gangbanged by us in Querious and yourselves in PB/Delve.. only we did most of the heavy lifting. Truth is FIX killed CFS to all intents and purposes... they would have lasted a whole lot longer if we hadn't been there.... primarily cause SA would have intervened, in CFS's favour. The reason CFS died so fast was because of FIX. They could not easily resupply after those that did fight were blown up the first few times. This really accelerated their demise. Also, the few times you came down to TPAR during the beggining were helpful (as I recall, though it can get confusing between that and Shinra). The reason CFS died at all was because of FA. We sent a 200man gang (when that was quasi unheard of in terms of size) 45minutes or so after they took the stations. As far as I could tell this completely crushed their spirit. You guys didn't have any interest in Delve or PB until probably over a year after this happened (I am remembering back to when you wanted to POS populate 1 PB or Delve constellation, think it was delve near the pipe but i can't remember), so it is entirely disingenuous to credit yourselves with the death of alliances that did not even live in Querious. There is no need to have a ****ing contest. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Baun Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.07 04:37:00 - [202] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Originally by: TornSoul Originally by: Rover Vitesse I also have memories of a great safespot buster from BIG (this was before scanning probes were released), and sitting at a safespot for more than ten minutes usually meant you were going to be found and killed :D. Thats Frantik Makes me proud you guys still recall his skills ("young" ppl need to understand that this was before scan probes) Only guy I know who single handedely could make entire fleets move - Simply by popping up in local. His safe spot busting skills were/are legendary frantik was the best scout you could ever have on an op.most amazing scanner. Frantik is easily the best scout in the history of Eve. He was a real artist. I wonder if anyone can find that link to the scan he made of one of the pieces of paper he used to bust safes before there were probes ... completely insane. After probes came out he was even more insane. He could find the enemy fleet anywhere in the system in about 3 minutes no matter where they were. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Kai Lae Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:08:00 - [203] Frantik could find anyone, anywhere, at any time. There is no defense against frantic...hostile fleets would just simply mass logoff once he showed up. I remember a simple task once in YRNJ where I knew where there was 2 safespotted abandoned haulers that I spent about an hour to an hour and a half trying to find, with probes. In the end I was out a lot of probes and all my time. Frantik came down and I think found them in about 5 minutes. The word legendary is not an exaggeration. Raptor and Ares Fix
Jarra Gallente Twizted Illusion	Posted - 2006.08.07 12:01:00 - [204] Period and Dsma had some very nice times as alot of people were helpful,when things turn tit up it was a learning curve indeed to be in the smack middle of it with Black lance and all those guys who were with us even though some say it was a pure mess. Bein there was a very nice experience in many things. Nice to see Rover,Dj and some others from back in the day post in this thread. -- Diplomacy is like saying "nice doggy" until u can find a bigger rock:)
Nez Perces Amarr J.H.E.N.R Pure.	Posted - 2006.08.07 12:18:00 - [205] Edited by: Nez Perces on 07/08/2006 12:23:45 Originally by: Baun The reason CFS died so fast was because of FIX. They could not easily resupply after those that did fight were blown up the first few times. This really accelerated their demise. Also, the few times you came down to TPAR during the beggining were helpful (as I recall, though it can get confusing between that and Shinra). The reason CFS died at all was because of FA. We sent a 200man gang (when that was quasi unheard of in terms of size) 45minutes or so after they took the stations. As far as I could tell this completely crushed their spirit. You guys didn't have any interest in Delve or PB until probably over a year after this happened (I am remembering back to when you wanted to POS populate 1 PB or Delve constellation, think it was delve near the pipe but i can't remember), so it is entirely disingenuous to credit yourselves with the death of alliances that did not even live in Querious. Thats just paraphrasing what I said... lets put it laymans terms so everybody can understand.. QDF (FIX wasnt born yet) tripped CFS over, they fell and broke their face then we sat on them whilst they were face down..... FA then stepped in and beat them over the head with a big club till all that was left was a bloody pulp. Wether QDF or FA on their own, could have killed CFS within an acceptable timeframe is debatable... my guess is it would have taken months and months... by which time anything could have happened, with CA and SA taking an active interest in the region, and not exactly happy with FA.
TornSoul BIG Fountain Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 13:16:00 - [206] Originally by: Baun Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Originally by: TornSoul Originally by: Rover Vitesse I also have memories of a great safespot buster from BIG (this was before scanning probes were released), and sitting at a safespot for more than ten minutes usually meant you were going to be found and killed :D. Thats Frantik Makes me proud you guys still recall his skills ("young" ppl need to understand that this was before scan probes) Only guy I know who single handedely could make entire fleets move - Simply by popping up in local. His safe spot busting skills were/are legendary frantik was the best scout you could ever have on an op.most amazing scanner. Frantik is easily the best scout in the history of Eve. He was a real artist. I wonder if anyone can find that link to the scan he made of one of the pieces of paper he used to bust safes before there were probes ... completely insane. After probes came out he was even more insane. He could find the enemy fleet anywhere in the system in about 3 minutes no matter where they were. Here ya go : Frantik's safe busting recipe I dug around on our forums a bit - and found it (it's more than 2 years old...) He also wrote a (very long) tutorial on how to do it... BIG Lottery [u
Loka Gallente adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.07 13:17:00 - [207] scary -.- _________________________ Iam back
Edison Frisk Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.07 17:19:00 - [208] Originally by: Jarra Period and Dsma had some very nice times as alot of people were helpful,when things turn tit up it was a learning curve indeed to be in the smack middle of it with Black lance and all those guys who were with us even though some say it was a pure mess. Bein there was a very nice experience in many things. Nice to see Rover,Dj and some others from back in the day post in this thread. ahem!
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.07 18:01:00 - [209] Originally by: Reiisha If only i had stayed in the elections that time.... Hmm. Much <3 mate. I truely appreciate the time you spent trying to cajole me back to Eve. In some respect, your tenacity has brought me here again. For this I thank you. Hope that fixed it, if not, let me know.
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.07 18:04:00 - [210] Originally by: Machiavelli7 For me, the most interesting aspect of this thread is seeing certain individuals take a very revisionist approach to history. There's dirt under some of those stones. Whitewashing ftl As time and memories fade, we begin to see things somewhat differently than they really were. For those fuzzy memories, like mine, I continue to request that you folks record your recollections here of that very important time in the history of the South. Hope that fixed it, if not, let me know.



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