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Princess Kuki Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 19:54:00 - [1] I was looking at the old territorial maps and noticed devle and period basis were held by bob in all of them, and i cant remember any1 else who used to live in those regions. So... who controlled them before bob came in? is there a history of these regions anywhere? Hope som1 can answer :) Thanks
Hoshi Blackguard Brigade Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.27 19:57:00 - [2] I suggest you get the latest E:ON issue and read for yourself (and/or you could look a bit closer on the map thread, older maps are there too). --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2006.07.27 19:59:00 - [3] If you look back at the old maps it should show you.
Sochin Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.27 20:01:00 - [4] Edited by: Sochin on 27/07/2006 20:03:09 Here is a map well before BoB. April 2004 Feb 2005 Nemo me impune lacessit
NAFnist	Posted - 2006.07.27 20:15:00 - [5] i was there before bob, so it was acctually more unsafe back then as you can imagine ;P
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.27 20:21:00 - [6] Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 27/07/2006 20:21:47 Had to laugh at the April 2004 map. CFS controlled nothing in Querious, previously known as JK-FIX, at that time. BA, IT, Ominous Corp., JAKD, J.E.H.N.R. and others did. Even maps can be wrong.
Ace Frehley Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 20:31:00 - [7] Edited by: Ace Frehley on 27/07/2006 20:35:28 I was in Period Basis with DSMA... We shared it with CFS i think, dunno much cus i mostly saw DSMA or stain members Oh and i was back when Shinra went in Period Basis BBCODE:
Randay Band of Builders Inc.	Posted - 2006.07.27 20:39:00 - [8] I miss those days. This game has becoming increasingly more depressing and upsettings in the last few months. ------------------------------------------- Apparently the Swedish language is against the rules of the forums.
Araviel Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.27 21:17:00 - [9] Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 27/07/2006 20:21:47 Had to laugh at the April 2004 map. CFS controlled nothing in Querious, previously known as JK-FIX, at that time. BA, IT, Ominous Corp., JAKD, J.E.H.N.R. and others did. Even maps can be wrong. i was still CFS commander over querious at that period, but yes there was no real CFS forces in the region, i got tasked to help the locals to form a local millitia wich formed querious defence force, later to become fix, but queious was still under CFS administration, (altho not very enforced) so your partly right yoda, ---------- signature under construction
Princess Kuki Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 21:29:00 - [10] Thanks =D More interesting than i thought... Som1 who knows what there talking about should write historys of the 0.0 regions maybe... could be interesting.
Hoshi Blackguard Brigade Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.27 21:50:00 - [11] Originally by: Princess Kuki Thanks =D More interesting than i thought... Som1 who knows what there talking about should write historys of the 0.0 regions maybe... could be interesting. Someone is, again I suggest you get the latest issue of E:ON. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vegas Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.07.27 22:23:00 - [12] Originally by: NAFnist i was there before bob, so it was acctually more unsafe back then as you can imagine ;P Its the truth people leave Jita when he's 10 jumps away!!
Aeon Yakati Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.27 22:31:00 - [13] Originally by: Araviel Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 27/07/2006 20:21:47 Had to laugh at the April 2004 map. CFS controlled nothing in Querious, previously known as JK-FIX, at that time. BA, IT, Ominous Corp., JAKD, J.E.H.N.R. and others did. Even maps can be wrong. i was still CFS commander over querious at that period, but yes there was no real CFS forces in the region, i got tasked to help the locals to form a local millitia wich formed querious defence force, later to become fix, but queious was still under CFS administration, (altho not very enforced) so your partly right yoda, And to add to that, we didn't see much BA either
IonHammer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 22:37:00 - [14] Originally by: Aeon Yakati Originally by: Araviel Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 27/07/2006 20:21:47 Had to laugh at the April 2004 map. CFS controlled nothing in Querious, previously known as JK-FIX, at that time. BA, IT, Ominous Corp., JAKD, J.E.H.N.R. and others did. Even maps can be wrong. i was still CFS commander over querious at that period, but yes there was no real CFS forces in the region, i got tasked to help the locals to form a local millitia wich formed querious defence force, later to become fix, but queious was still under CFS administration, (altho not very enforced) so your partly right yoda, And to add to that, we didn't see much BA either IC that itch you couldn't scratch is still kicking on bud.
Aeon Yakati Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.27 22:43:00 - [15] Originally by: IonHammer Originally by: Aeon Yakati Originally by: Araviel Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 27/07/2006 20:21:47 Had to laugh at the April 2004 map. CFS controlled nothing in Querious, previously known as JK-FIX, at that time. BA, IT, Ominous Corp., JAKD, J.E.H.N.R. and others did. Even maps can be wrong. i was still CFS commander over querious at that period, but yes there was no real CFS forces in the region, i got tasked to help the locals to form a local millitia wich formed querious defence force, later to become fix, but queious was still under CFS administration, (altho not very enforced) so your partly right yoda, And to add to that, we didn't see much BA either IC that itch you couldn't scratch is still kicking on bud. Caused by a squished muppet?
viceman Without Reason	Posted - 2006.07.27 22:54:00 - [16] I was the old owner of period basis tbfh not cfs DSMA AND ME FTW!!!!! p.s. - they called me benwallace back then --------------------- They see me rollin They hatin Patrolling they tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Randay Band of Builders Inc.	Posted - 2006.07.27 23:24:00 - [17] Originally by: viceman I was the old owner of period basis tbfh not cfs DSMA AND ME FTW!!!!! p.s. - they called me benwallace back then rgr thanks for the heads up, setting standings now. ------------------------------------------- Apparently the Swedish language is against the rules of the forums.

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.07.27 23:26:00 - [18] Originally by: Randay I miss those days. This game has becoming increasingly more depressing and upsettings in the last few months. I have felt this as well, was thinking of the CFS days just recently ___

Randay Band of Builders Inc.	Posted - 2006.07.27 23:28:00 - [19] Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Randay I miss those days. This game has becoming increasingly more depressing and upsettings in the last few months. I have felt this as well, was thinking of the CFS days just recently Things were so much more simpler and memorable, eh? ------------------------------------------- Apparently the Swedish language is against the rules of the forums.
Reiisha Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2006.07.27 23:30:00 - [20] What i always find amusing nowadays is seeing where a lot of the active CFS people ended up :)
TornSoul BIG Fountain Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.27 23:38:00 - [21] PB story First alliance to 'claim' it was CFS (CFS was open borders though, so anyone could come and go as they wished - as long as they 'behaved' - No pirating etc. Not much enforced however) Enter the 'new' jumpgates (connecting Fountain/Delve, PB/PS etc Some time after (dont recall how long anymore - a month?) moo suddenly descended on PB - and took the stations there. CFS couldnt/wouldnt do much about it. BIG/FA moves to PB to fight of moo. Some locals join in (a couple of CFS pilots show up occationally as well - But is in general a rare sight) During this Techell suddenly buys the stations from moo, and moves in (and gets the stations). Moo babysits Techell for a couple of weeks, but finally tires and moves out. (I still have a vived recolection of chasing the last 7 moo's out of PB, all the way across Delve - That was quite the night ) After moo is gone, more and more locals join the fight (against Techell now) After a month or so (give and take) Techell finally tires and moves out completly. Tons and tons of station ping-pong during this period (cant coutn the number of times I've killed the shields of those damn stations...) The PB stations stay on FA hands for roughly a year or so. FA never lays any direct claim to the territory of PB during this time (only the stations), and CFS 'rules' apply (open space for all as long as they behave) This (statiosn on FA hands) ofc much to the dismay of both CFS and the locals in PB (this turns ugly later on) Few attacks now and again from various pirate corps - Bit of station ping pong every now and again. But stations never stay of FA hands for long. Local numbers just grow and grow and grow in PB during this period. Regularly 30-50, and even 70 ppl in local. Was a haven really... shrug "Then one fatefull evening..." It finally "turns ugly" (as mentioned above) between FA and CFS (now joined by a couple of local alliances - DSMA in PB, and StA in Delve - Together called the UFS) The first station to be attacked is the TPAR one - First auto-mail about it beeing attacked hits my inbox at 20:04. BIG Lottery [u
TornSoul BIG Fountain Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.27 23:39:00 - [22] (Loooong aside : We (FA) knew that the attack would happen. Or rather, that it was planned to happen. To the last moment I truly hoped (/nearly prayed..) CFS(/UFS) would not be so stupid/suicidal (sorry guys, but theres no other words for it...). We (FA) had ordered our FC's to gather the fleet in Fountain core. None of them new why that order was given. Only 3 or 4 (could be a couple more) top FA people knew why (the CFS plans to attack) Needless to say, when that fatefull EVEmail hit my inbox... The FA FC's where given their orders - "Retake the stations".(Delve/Querious and PB). And.. Needless to say, the CFS(/UFS) would ofc not just let this happen... I still remember beeing the one having to give the FC's the order... And effectivly signing the CFS(/UFS) Death Warrant... (This after a FA vote was done. - The necessary amount of persons to do a vote was quickly gotten together) CFS(/UFS) died 2-3 days later - Thats all it took. DSMA howver fought on in PB for the longest of times though - 2-3 months? But eventually moved out. ----- Regardless what any might think today - I spend the better part of a year trying to keep CFS alive and at least "formally" in control of the 3 regions they claimed. (one of the ironies was that, I/we even stopped a war between DSMA/CFS from happening once... Which would have at least killed one of them. This was done with "gun in hand", and none of the parties appriciated our interferennce, to stop them from killing each other, one bit ) Lots of conflicting interests in doing all of this... - and very few in CFS ever saw it for what it was, and the necessity for it... (CFS would die left on their own... FA was their (unwelcome) "buggieman" keeping serious parties out of there (like SA...And a few others who'd like a new home)) Needless to say, I was probably one of the least liked persons in CFS due to the way this had to be handled (CFS would ofc have prefered FA just buggered the hell back to fountain)) </end aside> After CFS had died, and DSMA had finally (after a long brave fight) vacated PB, a shortlived attempt was made (by me) to put PBL (Period Basis Legion) in charge of PB (most of FA had 'lost interest' in doing much about PB, now that CFS where dead - It was "too far away" etc etc. If you count the number of jumps from Fountain core to the statiosn in Delve, and to TPAR, you'll however notice a remarkable thing... They are the same... 35j if I recall (not ingame atm) - But on the map PB looks far far far longer away) I created PBL to avoid excactly what happened next.... PBL was perhaps 3-4 weeks "old", and the corps wherent coordinated proberly yet - Not too mention not all had moved their pilots and gear to PB yet either. M3G4/shinra came in force... Didnt take them long to take over... Not much resistance offered really... The rest as they say is history.... ------------------ This is my version. I'm fairly sure that others (mostly old CFS'ers) will have a quite diferent view on how things where And yes, I've left out tons of details - So the above is ofc not complete in anyway, but it ended up much longer than I intended as it is... And I'm sure it will get flamed/trolled to death by those with a different view. Please just remember - This is my view. How I saw things. So dont get all tied up in a knot ok. BIG Lottery [u
IonHammer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 23:50:00 - [23] Originally by: Aeon Yakati Originally by: IonHammer Originally by: Aeon Yakati Originally by: Araviel Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 27/07/2006 20:21:47 Had to laugh at the April 2004 map. CFS controlled nothing in Querious, previously known as JK-FIX, at that time. BA, IT, Ominous Corp., JAKD, J.E.H.N.R. and others did. Even maps can be wrong. i was still CFS commander over querious at that period, but yes there was no real CFS forces in the region, i got tasked to help the locals to form a local millitia wich formed querious defence force, later to become fix, but queious was still under CFS administration, (altho not very enforced) so your partly right yoda, And to add to that, we didn't see much BA either IC that itch you couldn't scratch is still kicking on bud. Caused by a squished muppet? and such a very good one by the sounds of it
Nez Perces Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.28 00:01:00 - [24] Originally by: TornSoul .... selective memory...... I am quite shocked that you have chosen to omit one of the key factors that caused CFS/UFS to crumble as quickly as they did. CFS/UFS had the intention of also capturing querious.. and who was there at the time TornSoul? Was in not QDF/FIX (Querious Defence Force) that broke the 100 man CFS fleet that came to take Querious? Was it not the QDF/FIX fleets that then blocked the A2-V27 pipeline and NEVER allowed another UFS/CFS fleet of any significance to enter the south? The QDF broke the CFS's back and handed victory to you on a silver platter. CFS got gangbanged by us in Querious and yourselves in PB/Delve.. only we did most of the heavy lifting. Truth is FIX killed CFS to all intents and purposes... they would have lasted a whole lot longer if we hadn't been there.... primarily cause SA would have intervened, in CFS's favour.
TornSoul BIG Fountain Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.28 00:09:00 - [25] Like I said nez - My post is incomplete. Lots of details missing. I tried to keep it to just things concerning PB (but yes strayed a bit of course as well). And I'm definatly not going to continue the age old **ing contest of who did what where the most in the CFS war. You guys played a role. FA played a role. Lets just leave it at that for now ok? BIG Lottery** [u
Randay Band of Builders Inc.	Posted - 2006.07.28 00:12:00 - [26] Wow, thinking back, could you imagine what eve would be like today if FIX had choosen to back CFS instead of FA? I wonder what kind of domino effect would take place and how the current southern map would look if someone went back in time and convinced us not to blow up that one CFS fleet. Chaos theory? ------------------------------------------- Apparently the Swedish language is against the rules of the forums.
Nez Perces Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.28 00:19:00 - [27] Originally by: TornSoul Like I said nez - My post is incomplete. Lots of details missing. I tried to keep it to just things concerning PB (but yes strayed a bit of course as well). ... well if you are gonna tell a story tell it right... Consider it a personal favour that I helped you fill in those missing details...
TornSoul BIG Fountain Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.28 00:24:00 - [28] Nez - Feel free to add to it. I see Reiisha us readign this too - I'm sure she would more than welcome any details you can add. Even if it isnt specifically about PB/Delve as the OP posted. The 3 regions afterall have a ton of common history - and it's hard to talk about one without talking about the other. But if you (and others) can (to avoid too many flames) try and keep the "who did what where the most" out of it... It onyl causes flames... You'll notice my post (tries very hard) to simply state the facts, regarding the regions themself (and ive added quite a bit of personal comments) and not who did "more" than others. shrug BIG Lottery [u
IonHammer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.28 00:33:00 - [29] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: TornSoul .... selective memory...... I am quite shocked that you have chosen to omit one of the key factors that caused CFS/UFS to crumble as quickly as they did. CFS/UFS had the intention of also capturing querious.. and who was there at the time TornSoul? Was in not QDF/FIX (Querious Defence Force) that broke the 100 man CFS fleet that came to take Querious? Was it not the QDF/FIX fleets that then blocked the A2-V27 pipeline and NEVER allowed another UFS/CFS fleet of any significance to enter the south? The QDF broke the CFS's back and handed victory to you on a silver platter. CFS got gangbanged by us in Querious and yourselves in PB/Delve.. only we did most of the heavy lifting. Truth is FIX killed CFS to all intents and purposes... they would have lasted a whole lot longer if we hadn't been there.... primarily cause SA would have intervened, in CFS's favour. Nez is 100% correct. Speaking of SA I have looked under a lot of rocks lately but to no avail, guess i will wait for a statement of some sort.
Logan Williams Fate. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.07.28 00:44:00 - [30] Originally by: Randay I miss those days. This game has becoming increasingly more depressing and upsettings in the last few months. The game was fun back then.

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