Here's the thing.

You (like everyone else posting) have no idea why the bans were done. You are simply speculating to push your agenda.

Mr Epeen

I keep reading and reading ... and most is crap.
Most people only have their own narrow viewpoint,
instead of actually looking at the issue as a whole.

The most balanced solution would be to simply ban all those
who refuse to learn that standing for a specific viewpoint
is the least intelligent of all possibilities.

The next step: Forum warnings for people who keep creating bait ...
... and those who deliberately eat the bait and somehow think thsy can be superior
to a troll who manipulates them, creating pages after pages of nonsense.

You know who you are and you are easily spottable.


BOOM!

Suddenly, all the actually intelligent people would stop lurking
and actually start communicating, instead of staying lurkers
because of all the mindless forum zombies who have no conscious thoughts in their minds left.


And I am seriously glad I ripped a specific person away from the hate you people infect everyone with.


You are no humans and I am deeply ashamed that you people are allowed to be here.

In the light of a flood of propaganda, your posts are based on FUD!
F ear
U n certainty
D oubt

Times change CCP adapts, so do you, or leave.
CCP leaves intentionaly no exact line, but expects to have some decency.
Seeing what was happening until now, i have noticed one thing:
CCP is not using the ban-hammer excessivly, so i am willing to assume, those bans where reasonable.

Whom do i trust more?
Griefers or CCP?

This is a good question.


My answer would be that this game seems to thrive on company-player dialog moreso than any other game. The players have a constant hope that such a dialog is meaningful, and that CCP is the type of company to have one with its players.

This event made my morning. Thank God CCP finally took out some of the trash.

The new order's military might is laughable.

But we have media control.

The meta-game is always pushed to extremes. Those who do not do it will lose in-game. That is why we need guidelines.

Nobody is looking for a compedium. These options aren't binary:

0. Tell us nothing
1. Tell us everything


Nobody is asking to know everything, but I think it's fair as a player to ask what specific rules are being applied to bans. Currently, we are told that it's "whatever CCP wants this to be".

Do you not think that is too general? How is anybody supposed to adhere to a set of rules which *seem* pretty inconsistently applied and not documented by any official source anywhere..

Well, it's always good to get a summary from someone who hasn't done the requisite reading.

Or maybe they did RMT
Or run a bot or two
Or have a program running in background alerting the local spike
Or they got away first time with warp to zero but four a way around and still use it
Or cyno titan something
Or played the drop the drone pick the drone after it was declared illegal
Or all the stuff you can do but you are not allowed to do


If all the bans were handed in one wave it doesn't mean they were for the same illegality.

Well it's general, but it's also their prerogative. If in doubt err on the side of caution, or, well, no one is forcing you to stick around.

I had some sympathy with the Ero1 thing as there was a lot of hysteria and run up to the actual ban, but these seem to be bans come out of their internal process, presumably working in a similar same that is has for years (doubt these were the first to be banned for being scummers). Are we going through this for every ban now?

I had to stop at the fourth page because of the tears rolling out of my monitor. My cup runneth over.

I wonder if the clattering of pitchforks and the howling for CCP to cater to the entitled player minority actually disrupts the day to day activities in Reykjavik?

Arcades were more than just magnificent geek Shangri-Las, filled with all sorts of video games and pinball machines. They were a vital part of my generationGÇÖs social development. If I beat another kid in a two player game and taunted him mercilessly, with explicit references to his mother's sex life and my role in it, the way some online gamers do today, he would have justifiably kicked the everliving [beep] out of me. So I learned GÇô in arcades GÇô the importance of good sportsmanship. Because arcades were real places, staffed by real people, we had to worry about much more than getting kicked off a server if we were complete idiots in a game. I guess this is a double-edged sword, and IGÇÖm feeling like a cranky old man by even mentioning it, but would you all do me a favor? When youGÇÖre playing online, have fun, and donGÇÖt be a [beep], okay?

- PAX Prime Keynote, 2007

Top tears so far from the following characters making multiple posts. In no particular order:

Remiel Pollard
Kaarous Aldurald
Sabriz Adoudel
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 Uranus Shrugged
Solecist Project
Crumplecorn
Rabe Raptor
Anal Canal
Sibyyl

I will continue to add more names on the list as they appear.

the banned players don't understand what it is they did to get banned

Top tears so far from the following characters making multiple posts. In no particular order:

Remiel Pollard
Kaarous Aldurald
Sabriz Adoudel
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
Solecist Project
Crumplecorn
Rabe Raptor
Anal Canal
Sibyyl

I will continue to add more names on the list as they appear.

I'm a little teapot short and dumb
I have my head shoved up my bum

Well it's possible they could all be innocent.

How about I stick around and continue to engage in civil dialog for CCP to provide a better outline of what is considered banworthy behavior?

The low resolution of the EULA as it stands may be to your liking, but it appears there is some disruption in communication between CCP and its players since the banned players don't understand what it is they did to get banned. Some of this is posturing (cue NBA references) but some of it is actual confusion.


I don't think a lack of communication is a good thing for any company. It's certainly toxic to the spirit of the game, which has been clearly advertised by CCP in this forum and on public media.

I'm sure those players could make that determination if they were told what it is they did wrong..

Can someone tl;dr what the hell's going on?

CCP banned a bunch of guys that continued on with the bonus room thing. In their infinite wisdom or just out of sheer laziness, they banned everyone in the bonus room channel whether they participated or not.