You know full well, that if they say it's ok, these douchecicles will just strain that ruling to its limit and will then try to rules lawyer their way out of trouble when they're caught bullying people again.

It isn't our job to dictate to people how to maintain a base standard of human decency toward one another, and we're not going to do so.

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["hard-core pornography"]; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that. [Emphasis added.]

GÇöJustice Potter Stewart, concurring opinion in Jacobellis v. Ohio 378 U.S. 184 (1964), regarding possible obscenity in The Lovers.

The above is posted for those arguing edge cases and saying yea but. Please read bold. I really cannot understand the people arguing for a bright line. Unless of course they are trying to flirt with it.

Great now we have a pornography expert in the forums...

The really funny part is that, a while back, I was doxxed, stalked, and my life threatened by a butthurt carebear whose corp I had awoxed, back when neutral logi didn't get suspect flags. Hence why I post on an alt, and have since largely abandoned my old main account.

CCP did nothing. Told me to contact my local law enforcement, who just laughed.

That's what really pisses me off about all of this. Tears over video game money necessitate bans, sending me a picture of my own house through the in game email client does not.

Great now we have a pornography expert in the forums...

Interesting. Non Bonus Room folks banned too?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2g24cl/massive_banwave_hits_the_dark_side_of_eve/

I think there's more than one of those here. 96% male is a good indication.

For my own behaviour if this were to ever be a thing I faced in the future - choices and consequences apply.

I think I have an ok handle on what constitutes harassment, but if I end up across that line at some point in CCPs view, then ok. Won't stop me from playing my game the way I want to play it, just have to accept that CCP have made it clear on a few occasions that harassment is not tolerated.

Up to my good judgement to be able to know where the line exists on individual matters and if I screw up, my fault.

It isn't our job to dictate to people how to maintain a base standard of human decency toward one another, and we're not going to do so.

The bottom line is that it's down to members of the community to know where the line crosses from common decency to harassment. We will not draw a line in the sand so that people can skirt on the edge of it and bend the rules as much as possible.

This isn't a debate about what constitutes "harassment". If you're not familiar with the word, find the definition in a dictionary and that will satisfy your question.

What we will do, is continue to use best judgement on a case by case basis to ensure that real life harassment is kept out of the game, and ensure that those who choose to involve themselves in such activities are no longer permitted to be part of our community.

Cut and dried, that's all we have to say on the matter.

This is CCP's game.
They make the rules and guidelines and they are entitled to have grey areas and make judgement upon them.
Having said that; this is a character based game. You are not literally you in this game.
You're character is an avatar. This avatar can communicate in game. Meaning you can speak to others and sing to others.

There are things your in game avatar cannot do however.
They cannot send you a picture of themselves where they are smeared in mayo for instance. Think about what the other persons avatar is legally and physically capable of doing in game and you will be less likely to be concerned about what you are doing is right or wrong. If you are trying to push an edge case or are saying yea but; please refer to sentence one and two.

yes, that is your job.

to play eve we have to agree to terms/conditons of use blah blah.

if you're not going to tell us what the T&Cs are, how are we meant to follow them?

You guys are far too creative and way too clever for us to have a black and white, do or die policy. There needs to be some flexibility when dealing with edge cases and oddball situations that come up.

Since you missed it:




But maybe your point is that in this particular case it is too ambiguous?

that's not ambiguous in the slightest. it simply says nothing. CCP want their cake and eat it.

I'll elaborate later, i have to get ready for work.

Okay, so then you support the bonus room.

But maybe your point is that in this particular case it is too ambiguous?

Since you missed it:




But maybe your point is that in this particular case it is too ambiguous?

My point is that subjectivity allows for, and encourages personal bias.

And the GM staff are carebear friendly, and it shows.

I don't want to get banned for hurting someone's feelings when I blow up their ship...

My name.... this is also a matter.

The absence of a clear line means that you won't see consistent treatment from the GMs. Two similar cases could be treated entirely differently, depending on who gets to process a ticket. And that's a very dangerous position to take on the issue.

I think what happened is since CCP Falcon gave the anti ganking crowd the cold shoulder they found someone else who would listen. That person took the opportunity to lay some smackdown on the gankers. I know players like Veers are probably so excited now..