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Eternal Corrosion
Yuhu al Medio - Overlodea Primo
30
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Posted - 2014.09.27 13:59:00 -
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Really bad idea. You will suffer the consequences on the long term
-1 CCP
PS: You dont even have the guts to answer us. I will always love LowSec |
Naburi NasNaburi
A Little Peculiar borealis
271
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Posted - 2014.09.27 14:03:00 -
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WOW ... some people just have to role play the biggest ******** of the universe. Have you ever heard of the words.. tact and politeness.. maybe manners too? *points at BrundleMeth*
Where I come from, we value those words and their meaning.
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dong haeng
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.09.27 14:09:00 -
[183] - Quote
Bad idea.
Really. Really... |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
6628
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Posted - 2014.09.27 14:15:00 -
[184] - Quote
Would CCP consider maintaining a channel/link in with the rest of the language channels for "Other languages/Unofficial language channels". This would not be a channel that you can chat in. It could even be just a link to an EVElopedia page, but would basically be an alphabetic listing of languages with links to the actual language channel(s) for the corresponding language. The MOTD/pedia entry could emphasize they're not officially moderated/supported by CCP.
The goal would be to maintain high visibility for other unofficial language channels in the client to aid new players to make easy connections with existing players who speak their language. Helping people connect aids players to find people to spend their time with and seek help from, which in turn helps CCP to keep players happy and subscribed. The visibility part is the important part here, since new players are likely to struggle finding such channels without the aid of existing players and CCP is the only one who can ensure the needed easy access and visibility. |
Anomylous
Veni Vid Vici
12
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Posted - 2014.09.27 14:17:00 -
[185] - Quote
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/ccespedes33/M0ktc0q_zps28b53168.gif
Bad move.
Trade chat and some locals have always been a trolling/scamming/gay **** advertising breeding ground (This same forum is also not that far behind I dare say). Yet, people just block and move on.
Improvements to the new player experience have overall been neglected since the very start and despite you knowing this here you are giving another blow to it.
Just add a MOTD to said channels saying that it is not possible for them to be moderated, urging players to be careful with links and to block inappropriate users.
P.S Russian's invade Ukrainian chat to troll (meanwhile lives are being lost due to this crisis). CCP solves the problem by closing the Ukrainian chat (and all the other's) but keeps the Russian channel. lol |
Priscilla Project
Custom Clothing Productions
150
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Posted - 2014.09.27 14:34:00 -
[186] - Quote
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Paul AtreidesMuad
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
41
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Posted - 2014.09.27 14:44:00 -
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Anomylous wrote:http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/ccespedes33/M0ktc0q_zps28b53168.gif
Bad move.
Trade chat and some locals have always been a trolling/scamming/gay **** advertising breeding ground (This same forum is also not that far behind I dare say). Yet, people just block and move on.
Improvements to the new player experience have overall been neglected since the very start and despite you knowing this here you are giving another blow to it.
Just add a MOTD to said channels saying that it is not possible for them to be moderated, urging players to be careful with links and to block inappropriate users.
P.S Russian's invade Ukrainian chat to troll. CCP solves the problem by closing the Ukrainian chat (and all the other's) but keeps the Russian channel. lol we are fine with having our own channel(there is really no other way to fight against russian trolls mentality), problem is other communities that dont face such need, our main concern is about new players and how they gonna find their native language channels if they not gonan be added to chat lists by ccp, hence my propasal about adding some player run channel that are the most active there like ukranian -ú-¦-Ç-¦-ù-+-¦[UA] channel |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
2983
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Posted - 2014.09.27 15:17:00 -
[188] - Quote
Destination SkillQueue wrote:Would CCP consider maintaining a channel/link in with the rest of the language channels for "Other languages/Unofficial language channels". This would not be a channel that you can chat in. It could even be just a link to an EVElopedia page, but would basically be an alphabetic listing of languages with links to the actual language channel(s) for the corresponding language. The MOTD/pedia entry could emphasize they're not officially moderated/supported by CCP.
The goal would be to maintain high visibility for other unofficial language channels in the client to aid new players to make easy connections with existing players who speak their language. Helping people connect aids players to find people to spend their time with and seek help from, which in turn helps CCP to keep players happy and subscribed. The visibility part is the important part here, since new players are likely to struggle finding such channels without the aid of existing players and CCP is the only one who can ensure the needed easy access and visibility.
That would not fix what CCP pretends to fix.
The issue as we've been told, is that some channels supplied by CCP are trolled badly and cause tickets which CCP can't investigate properly.
CCP's fix is to remove those CCP channels and let players set any channels they want, as player channels can be moderated by players (which is good according to CCP), and by not being in a supported language they are in a gray zone concerning the EULA.
Anyway, player channels lack visibility, which is terrible for new players, and they lack neutrality, which is terrible for community building.
Visibilty can't be fixed without CCP playing favorites toward the chosen player channel or flooding noobs with 50 different options (is the same issue with finding a corp). As for communities, they would not exist without language channels, specially in the case of Spanish, which is naturally split by 20+ nationalities which often hold feuds against each other... and then, there's also the natural splits caused by player organizations and power blocs.
There would not be, there will not be, any language driven community without everybody being forced to flock /naturally flocking in a single resource supplied by CCP. The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
949
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Posted - 2014.09.27 16:07:00 -
[189] - Quote
so has anyone bothered to post this information in their respective languages in their channels to get more responses? 10 pages seems a little low for what seems to be a hot button issue. CCP wont listen unless its 50 pages by monday morning with complaints. |
Migui X'hyrrn
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
116
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Posted - 2014.09.27 16:46:00 -
[190] - Quote
Obsidian Hawk wrote:so has anyone bothered to post this information in their respective languages in their channels to get more responses? 10 pages seems a little low for what seems to be a hot button issue. CCP wont listen unless its 50 pages by monday morning with complaints.
Pretty much.
They are not bothering with this. It is not even in the patch notes for the current release. But it is something that is going to do a huge damage to non-official language communities. Which is a dumb move by CCP that alienates a big part of the player base just because they don't want to bother with a better solution.
If we could live during 11 years with those channels why is such a huge issue right now? |
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Darkblad
Hilfe is like free Entertainment
509
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Posted - 2014.09.27 16:54:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:so has anyone bothered to post this information in their respective languages in their channels to get more responses? 10 pages seems a little low for what seems to be a hot button issue. CCP wont listen unless its 50 pages by monday morning with complaints. You'd have to continuosly post that information in the channels, especially the ones less populated, as there are still no MOTDs pointing here. The unsupported language's channels lack any kind of motd, anyway. I start to see at least one member within all language channels, though. That wasn't the case before if I remember correctly.
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OptimuzPR
Oblivious Elements Collide Carthage Empires
4
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Posted - 2014.09.27 16:59:00 -
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This has to be the worst idea I've seen from CCP. Spanish chat is where I found my first corporation. I would not have stayed in this game if it wasn't for the Spanish channel. Say goodbye to a lot of future subscriptions because of this desicion.
Enjoy my first -1 ever. |
LV425
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.09.27 17:02:00 -
[193] - Quote
I think this is an awesome move! Great job CCP! |
Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
203
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Posted - 2014.09.27 17:03:00 -
[194] - Quote
Relax CCP, don't do it! If you do it I got some bad news for you... Mikhem
Link library to EVE music songs. |
Solaris Kor
J and L Trust Ignore This.
0
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Posted - 2014.09.27 17:06:00 -
[195] - Quote
this seems like a terrible direction for a game struggling to attract and secure new players. |
Elly May
Lock'n'Point
3
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Posted - 2014.09.27 17:07:00 -
[196] - Quote
10 pages, still no response CCP you're a joke.. |
Elly May
Lock'n'Point
3
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Posted - 2014.09.27 17:07:00 -
[197] - Quote
double post..forum is kinda laggy. |
Mikel deEuskadi
Infrastruktur und Technologie-Entwicklung.
0
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Posted - 2014.09.27 17:12:00 -
[198] - Quote
This is a really bad solution to the problem.
it will hurt us all, because it will reduce the number of new players, and EVE needs them.
The learning curve is difficult for many new players even if they have support in their native language, also for those who have language barrier becomes an automatic quit.
Those language channels become an option that gives them guide and motivation to keep going in this game and turn into income for CCP.
If CCP keeps going with bad solutions, maybe the next one could be shutting EVE down, so you dont have to answer tickets at all. |
groentenman
Interplanetaire vereniging van groentenboeren
17
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Posted - 2014.09.27 17:12:00 -
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Lost track of the amount of welcome bounties I've put on the heads of dutch newbies and the amount of ships and ISK I gave away to the same newbies that needed some extra help. Usually it's the same old people chatting but the dutch chat channel gate a regular stream of newbies asking for help and direction we're more than willing to give to those who are willing to learn. Removing official languag channels is going to remove a way of easily finding eve players in your country and promoting an unofficial channel is an unnecessary hasstle. I think it's a bad idea. |
lolcorpholder alt
ebil piwates inc.
31
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Posted - 2014.09.27 17:26:00 -
[200] - Quote
CCP, you once said that you strife for excellence. Is this it? HTFU and start actually talking to your customers |
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Karl Stranne
The Red in the Sky Is Ours
0
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Posted - 2014.09.27 17:48:00 -
[201] - Quote
CCP has an itchy foot. Instead of scratching the itch, they decide to amputate the entire leg.
CCP, there are many of us who thoroughly enjoy having a chat in our respective native language, please don't take it away from us.
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Jiro Kobaiashi
Just 4 Fun E.B.O.L.A.
1
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Posted - 2014.09.27 17:56:00 -
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Thats probably the worst move you ever did CCP.
I started to think you are really serious about improving the game due to all these nice changes and imporvements in the last months.
But removin the language help channels will cause nothing but decrease the number of non native english subscription.
Doing this while trieing to attract more french people with a french client seems totally mental to me.
I personally would not have survived my first months without some native language support. (guess what. I may be speaking english quite ok, but i was deffenitley not into those rather difficult space/techical language often used)
The last wrong decission of this reach columinated in people shooting the jita monument.
But since it does not affect the majority of the eve players but only the minority, probably the scream will be much quieter than last time.
Eventhough dont forget that CCP: That minority of players keeps EVE alive. You will certainly do what we would call "sich ins eigene Knie schie+ƒen" in german: You will blow a bullet into your own feet.
Not good CCP, deffenitly Not good
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lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
11
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Posted - 2014.09.27 18:21:00 -
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I invite you all to join us at the Jita monument. Currently there are at least some people from Deutschechat and Suomikannu there. Fight the good fight.
BTW: Just realized what a great **** YOU sign that word "consolidation" used in the thread title is. Nice.
Alan vittuillakseni kirjoittamaan joka foorumipostaukseeni t+ñst+ñ eteenp+ñin jotain jollakin muulla kielell+ñ kuin englannilla. |
lolcorpholder alt
ebil piwates inc.
31
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Posted - 2014.09.27 18:25:00 -
[204] - Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q still remember that? CCP Falcon, think you need to reset your excellence at this point if you ever had one |
warock
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2014.09.27 18:34:00 -
[205] - Quote
CCPlease no!
Don't close the channels, take appropriate actions against those who make a mess regardless of the fact the channel is official or not.
- stay classy folks! - |
lolcorpholder alt
ebil piwates inc.
31
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Posted - 2014.09.27 18:46:00 -
[206] - Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4NZUOGj8vY
Killing is just a means of communication. Such a shame CCP doesnt seem to want us to communicate |
lolcorpholder alt
ebil piwates inc.
31
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Posted - 2014.09.27 18:58:00 -
[207] - Quote
THIS JUST IN
CCP SHUTTING DOWN SERVERS TO SILENCE PLAYER PROTESTS IN JITA |
Dorijan
Hoover Inc. Pandemic Legion
59
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Posted - 2014.09.27 19:05:00 -
[208] - Quote
Finally. |
Cookasoo delos
Turion Industries Dark Knights of Eden
0
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Posted - 2014.09.27 19:16:00 -
[209] - Quote
OK mans time to wake up, i think close the community by doing this is a wrong idea please don't close the small community chats :) |
Meleric
Verteidiger des wahren Bloedsinns Brotherhood Of Silent Space
20
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Posted - 2014.09.27 20:26:00 -
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Yeah ... german channel is mostly like hell .. especially for newbies. But hey, EVE is cruicial, isn't it, CCP? That's what YOU wanted EVE had to be. I have to admit ... it could still be fun. Even for the trolls ... mostly they redirect the "unloved" noobs to help channel.
Sorry, I don't get it. You do this because of some morons in that channels? You have banned users for less ... I just read a blog on the internet. Punishing every "foreign" language is not the way to handle this IMHO.
Let's think about the consequences .... some players will open the old language channels and most of the new players will think "Hey cool ... a channel in my language." If the get scammed or something else, then they will yell for support. And what will happen? "No official channel ... sorry, not our problem." Are you really sure? Please reconsider. |
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