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Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 400	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:11:57 - [571] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Bob Bedala wrote: CODE kill botfleets too. Rarely if ever. La Nariz wrote: This is highsec pubbie levels of tinfoil man what the hell have you been smoking? How so? Because I don't lap up CODE propaganda when they say "we're anti-botter, honest!". Their actions speak for themselves. They attack players who clearly aren't botting, soaking up the tears, while they ignore botters leaving them to chomp on through all of the rocks. If you take a step back and really look at it, you'll see that the effect they have is the exact opposite of their claimed objective. Whether or not that is by design or through enormous oversight is up to you to decide. You accuse the one group of player with the mission to extinguish bots and bot like behaviour of botting? You must really run out of arguments if you even had some to begin with it seams. Botting is against the EULA and will therefore be reported to CCP by us if we suspect the player to use a bot. If there is a way how I can harm the bot (ISK wise, ingame) without assembling a fleet of friends (that would just be silly as he will get banned anyway) I will go to great lengths to do so as I regard bots as one of the most game destroying entities around. What are you doing against botting? Do you even care about this game? the Code ALWAYS wins
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 220	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:12:30 - [572] - Quote Brochan McLeod wrote: So? .... the FAQ is out of date... right? No, all it means is that because you are making money while doing PvE that it is also a form of PvP. So all the "carebears" you laugh at are actually PvP players.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 21333	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:13:23 - [573] - Quote Brochan McLeod wrote: So? .... the FAQ is out of date... right? The FAQ which is stickied in the New Citizens Q&A forum and was published in January of this year is out of date? Somebody should inform CCP of that and get them to remedy it "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 220	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:14:11 - [574] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: NPC tax @ 35% + no LP gain in any form + npc taxes applies to the market? Result - everyone operating in one man corps and even LESS social interaction. This is good for the game how exactly? based on what veers, your word? Based on the CSM minutes and on rational behavior. As CCP put it, the rational thing to do right now is to stay in NPC corps, and the players are doing it. Nerfing NPC corps would just exacerbate the already increasing movement to one man tax evasion corps. Again - there is no way to force people to willingly engage in combat if they don't want to. You need to offer carrots, not sticks.
Brochan McLeod Frigateer 70	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:14:45 - [575] - Quote KnowUsByTheDead wrote: Brochan McLeod wrote: Tears... flowing the other way... how strange and beautiful mother nature can be. Still don't like em tho... too salty.. not sweet at all. Right..... Tears. How about coherent thoughts when you respond to me. Fact remains, I have created more content then you will ever dream, child, with more positive outcomes, than bad.....using these mechanics. What have you done? And if I am crying so hard.....why am I still here? I would assume "Stockholm Syndrome," right? Or "Sunken Cost Fallacy?" Those are the typical carebear responses. Lmao, I am a tear harvester by nature. And even if this does transpire, I know that I will still go out creating content, even if it leads to me being banned. Because I actually believe in the so-called "core principles" of EVE, that the devs and community managers throw around carelessly. And the reality is.... Even if I do leave EVE Online.... I get the last laugh. Because I have literally played for years damn near exclusively out of the pockets of other players. And played it in just about every way short of flying a super or running an alliance. Lmfao. vOv It's pixels, dude. Yes you are awesome. ... and its still tears flowing upstream ... Even the nicest person's patience has a limit!
Revis Owen 52	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:16:15 - [576] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Maybe those who don't belong in EVE are those who whine about losing impunity... An awoxer has impunity? The target corp can target and kill the awoxer just as freely. By what twisted logic do awoxers currently have "impunity"? Any corp that can't defend itself against one pilot isn't a corp worth existing . . . in EvE. EvE should be harsh. Keep it that way. Agent of the New Order http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html If you do not have a current Highsec Operations Permit, please contact me for issuance.
Mike Azariah DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited 1787	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:16:58 - [577] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: "This is because EVE Online is essentially a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core" [quote] If the other pilot had no right to attack you then CONCORD will track him down and punish him for his crimes, so long as the attack took place in high security space. from the line following so we are both right, eh? m Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 8860	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:19:10 - [578] - Quote Mike Azariah wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: "This is because EVE Online is essentially a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core" [quote] If the other pilot had no right to attack you then CONCORD will track him down and punish him for his crimes, so long as the attack took place in high security space. from the line following so we are both right, eh? m No. guns don't magically stop working in high sec, X Rebirth is a PVE game, EVE is a PVP (and not just the shooting kind, station traders pvp for example) game with supporting pve elements.
Mag's the united 18115	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:20:20 - [579] - Quote Mike Azariah wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: "This is because EVE Online is essentially a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core" [quote] If the other pilot had no right to attack you then CONCORD will track him down and punish him for his crimes, so long as the attack took place in high security space. from the line following so we are both right, eh? m Name 3 things, that are not PvP in Eve. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Brochan McLeod Frigateer 70	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:21:54 - [580] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Brochan McLeod wrote: So? .... the FAQ is out of date... right? No, all it means is that because you are making money while doing PvE that it is also a form of PvP. So all the "carebears" you laugh at are actually PvP players. Uh oh!.... so now they wanna kill me? They looked so.... peaceful... Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Brochan McLeod wrote: So? .... the FAQ is out of date... right? The FAQ which is stickied in the New Citizens Q&A forum and was published in January of this year is out of date? Somebody should inform CCP of that and get them to remedy it I just called em... they will take care of it soon. Even the nicest person's patience has a limit!
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1351	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:22:43 - [581] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: NPC tax @ 35% + no LP gain in any form + npc taxes applies to the market? Result - everyone operating in one man corps and even LESS social interaction. This is good for the game how exactly? Of course that's the result and it's probably even worse than the actual system but I never said it was a good proposition either.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 221	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:23:33 - [582] - Quote Mag's wrote: Mike Azariah wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: "This is because EVE Online is essentially a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core" [quote] If the other pilot had no right to attack you then CONCORD will track him down and punish him for his crimes, so long as the attack took place in high security space. from the line following so we are both right, eh? m Name 3 things, that are not PvP in Eve. Skill Training PvE mission running if you dont spend the isk Mining in a plentiful area if you just use the minerals to manufacture your own ships off the market.
Princess Scarlett Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:24:33 - [583] - Quote Save one person from AWOX - save the world Oscar Schindler
KnowUsByTheDead Sunlight...Through The Blight. 2135	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:25:37 - [584] - Quote Brochan McLeod wrote: Yes you are awesome. ... and its still tears flowing upstream ... Ready to explain? Because I will continue letting you attempt to bait me, lmfao. It won't end badly for me. At least I am staying on topic. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 21336	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:25:40 - [585] - Quote Mike Azariah wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: "This is because EVE Online is essentially a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core" [quote] If the other pilot had no right to attack you then CONCORD will track him down and punish him for his crimes, so long as the attack took place in high security space. from the line following so we are both right, eh? m Nope, getting Concordokken is a consequence of initiating PvP in a specific area of space, under specific conditions; PvP still happened. "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Mike Azariah DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited 1787	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:25:58 - [586] - Quote Quote: Name 3 things, that are not PvP in Eve. Mags Depends on your definition of PvP. as a MMO I am always in competition with other folks but if I mine my own stuff and then use it to build my own ship so I can run missions quietly in a small out of the way system my level of PvP is low, very low. Only interaction with outsiders was buying the bpo's. I do miss drone poo as it allowed me to be very independent when I was that way inclined. If you define PvP as shooting the other guy there are TONS ofg non PvP things to do. If your definition is broad enough to encompass them then this minor change does not really shift much of the PvP that takes place in hisec every damn day. which is it? m Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9
Dersen Lowery Drinking in Station 1252	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:26:27 - [587] - Quote Mag's wrote: Name 3 things, that are not PvP in Eve. This is where I interject that the term "PvP" is general enough in a game like EVE to be essentially meaningless. Essentially, EVE is about players interacting with other players. That includes, but is not limited to, what is conventionally considered "PvP." There are enough different forms that appeal to enough different people that it's worthless to lump them all together. If EVE is a PvP game, where do I get my 8v8 balanced team PvP? Nowhere, because that's not how EVE works, and EVE is simply never going to appeal to people who want sports-style PvP. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.
Mag's the united 18115	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:26:51 - [588] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Mag's wrote: Mike Azariah wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: "This is because EVE Online is essentially a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core" [quote] If the other pilot had no right to attack you then CONCORD will track him down and punish him for his crimes, so long as the attack took place in high security space. from the line following so we are both right, eh? m Name 3 things, that are not PvP in Eve. Skill Training PvE mission running if you dont spend the isk Mining in a plentiful area if you just use the minerals to manufacture your own ships off the market. The funny thing is, you believe all that. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 1525	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:28:21 - [589] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: ... The FUD and tears are delicious however, please keep them coming... "The only thing necessary for the triumph of (nerfs) is for good men to do nothing.." - Edmund Burke The paradox being content creators and asshats in EvE are actually the good guys protecting the sandbox, while carebear CSM's (and court-jester trolltards like yourself) empower the slow creep of nerfdom evil done in the name of 'player retention' (or 'social justice' in the real world...). F Would you like to know more?
Mag's the united 18115	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:28:32 - [590] - Quote Mike Azariah wrote: Quote: Name 3 things, that are not PvP in Eve. Mags Depends on your definition of PvP. as a MMO I am always in competition with other folks but if I mine my own stuff and then use it to build my own ship so I can run missions quietly in a small out of the way system my level of PvP is low, very low. Only interaction with outsiders was buying the bpo's. I do miss drone poo as it allowed me to be very independent when I was that way inclined. If you define PvP as shooting the other guy there are TONS ofg non PvP things to do. If your definition is broad enough to encompass them then this minor change does not really shift much of the PvP that takes place in hisec every damn day. which is it? m I define PvP as it is. Player versus Player. So I am waiting. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 21336	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:28:48 - [591] - Quote Mag's wrote: The funny thing is, you believe all that. :Veers: "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Revis Owen 53	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:28:58 - [592] - Quote The type of player that quits or doesn't subscribe to EvE due to the possibility of getting killed by a corpmate is the type that will quit 3 months later due to boredom from their own risk-averse play style. Agent of the New Order http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html If you do not have a current Highsec Operations Permit, please contact me for issuance.
Marsha Mallow 1652	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:29:08 - [593] - Quote Mike Azariah wrote: I checked The Games Website and, oddly, I do not see them saying that Eve is a Purely PvP game. Now I will readily admit that it is a game with PvP in it if you will do the same in respect to PvE, because that is also part of the game. Missions, mining, exploration, are things you can do where you compete (maybe) but don't have to shoot some other player. This is a really irritating line of argument that keeps popping up. How the hell is anyone playing in a sandbox with a player driven market NOT engaged in PvP, all the time, everywhere. You don't need to shoot another player to compete with them for resources, to have an impact on the economy, or to engage in the metagame. Look at Dinsdale and Gevlon. FFS I can't believe I just had to state that to a CSM. Thank gawd I forgot to vote this year, you were on my list. Mike Azariah wrote: So where do all the people whose main argument against this change find the ground to stand on . . . that by shifting a rule that made little sense (It is OK to go Postal if you are in a post office and work there) we are somehow moving away from what the game IS. It is like they are the apostles of a religion within the game but I cannot seem to find their holy book or church. Why bring religious rhetoric into it, other than to derail the topic? We're not fanatics, and the implication is an unnecessary insult. The topic polarises opinion but that doesn't mean the participants can't take on board the arguments other people present. Don't pat us on the head on the one hand for the quality of the discussion then be so condescending towards those whose viewpoint diverges from yours. Non consensual combat makes little sense to a certain portion of the playerbase, as does allowing scams. To a lot of people (particularly those who have been playing 5 years or more) removing highsec awoxing - with whatever justification - is simply not a small change. It matters to us and it has wider implications if it's part of a trend to pacify people for the purposes of sub retention at the expense of player driven content. It's not just us who are concerned about what the game IS, CCP reiterate it from time totime, because it's an important thing to protect - and it's been under almost continuous attack since launch. Mike Azariah[/quote wrote: I still haven't seen an argument that convinces me to go back to CCP and demand that they 'tear down this wall' We don't need to convince you, and I'm not sure they listen to CSM demands any more than they do us. We can shout over here at CCP just fine. DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!
La Nariz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2954	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:30:14 - [594] - Quote Mag's wrote: Mike Azariah wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: "This is because EVE Online is essentially a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core" [quote] If the other pilot had no right to attack you then CONCORD will track him down and punish him for his crimes, so long as the attack took place in high security space. from the line following so we are both right, eh? m Name 3 things, that are not PvP in Eve. Captains quarter and we all know how well that expansion went. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Improve the forums, support this idea: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=345133
Prince Kobol 2350	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:30:36 - [595] - Quote Mike Azariah wrote: Quote: Name 3 things, that are not PvP in Eve. Mags Depends on your definition of PvP. as a MMO I am always in competition with other folks but if I mine my own stuff and then use it to build my own ship so I can run missions quietly in a small out of the way system my level of PvP is low, very low. Only interaction with outsiders was buying the bpo's. I do miss drone poo as it allowed me to be very independent when I was that way inclined. If you define PvP as shooting the other guy there are TONS ofg non PvP things to do. If your definition is broad enough to encompass them then this minor change does not really shift much of the PvP that takes place in hisec every damn day. which is it? m Erm.. both are, thats the point isn't it.. that all activities are forms of PvP
Darth Schweinebacke Caldari Provisions Caldari State 12	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:31:39 - [596] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Skill Training PvE mission running if you dont spend the isk Mining in a plentiful area if you just use the minerals to manufacture your own ships off the market. If you are mining you are competing with other players for ressources no matter if you do it intentionally or not. If you run missions you either did build your ship with ressources you mined yourself, or you did spend ISK for it. If you loot / salvage anything you are competing with others on the market. (Show me just 1 missionrunner who never bought anything from the market and just started out running missions in a rookie ship, never sold anything, only reprocessed loot to build everything he needs. Got all the materials for T2 / faction equipment on his own -> which again is impossible to do without competing with other players).
Indahmawar Fazmarai 3166	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:32:17 - [597] - Quote Revis Owen wrote: Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Maybe those who don't belong in EVE are those who whine about losing impunity... An awoxer has impunity? The target corp can target and kill the awoxer just as freely. By what twisted logic do awoxers currently have "impunity"? Any corp that can't defend itself against one pilot isn't a corp worth existing . . . in EvE. EvE should be harsh. Keep it that way. impunity: exemption or freedom from punishment, harm, or loss Not being attacked by CONCORD is a case of impunity. And this thread is full of whiners who don't want it to go. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! Ingame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1351	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:32:46 - [598] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Mike Azariah wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: "This is because EVE Online is essentially a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core" [quote] If the other pilot had no right to attack you then CONCORD will track him down and punish him for his crimes, so long as the attack took place in high security space. from the line following so we are both right, eh? m No. guns don't magically stop working in high sec, X Rebirth is a PVE game, EVE is a PVP (and not just the shooting kind, station traders pvp for example) game with supporting pve elements. I'm pretty sure he didn't say the gun would have to turn off but was pointing at the fact there were no kill rights or war declaration but somehow in corp violence didn't trigger CONCORD's reaction. For someone who has been playing for a while, it makes sense because we mostly know the rules, for others, it does not because they were never told. That is the issue CCP has with it. If your corp does not teach you player on player combat can happen inside the corp without concord intervention, there isn't all that much way to find out inside the game.
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 6997	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:33:32 - [599] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: Doc Fury wrote: ... The FUD and tears are delicious however, please keep them coming... "The only thing necessary for the triumph of (nerfs) is for good men to do nothing.." - Edmund Burke The paradox being content creators and asshats in EvE are actually the good guys protecting the sandbox, while carebear CSM's (and court-jester trolltards like yourself) empower the slow creep of nerfdom evil done in the name of 'player retention' (or 'social justice' in the real world...). F Concern trolling detected. Gÿ+ The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 4373	Posted - 2014.10.31 17:34:17 - [600] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: So now we have to have something personally at stake to comment on something. I've come to expect such irrational double standards from you. You don't live in high sec and are not a new player (I at least live in high sec) so why are you in this discussion then? Because obviously it doesn't affect you either, right? Well it seems that according to you I need proof of everything, and am not allowed to use personal experience or have opinions on anything, yet you seem to be able to whine endlessly about changes which you are claiming will not affect you in the slightest yet somehow will destroy the essence of EVE. Jenn aSide wrote: Ain;'t that sweet, Lucas Kell thinks people who would have quit EVE if it allowed the awoxing that's been possible for 11 years will engage in 'conflict' later on lol. Are you being deliberately obtuse or do you really not understand? Types of players who want to join in but are currently refused access to corporations because awoxing is possible, currently join the ranks of the solo highsec bear and for the most part quit. If awoxing were not, those same players would be engaging with others and may go on to play for a long time. Long terms players tend to be more capable and motivated to join in conflicts. In all seriousness, if you aren't going to bring anything reasonable to the table and are going to continue acting like a spoiled little brat who's being told he has to share his sandpit, then I'm done with you. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!

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