Point is slippery slope we been going down. Wardecs are next. Once people still stay in npc corps after this change ccp will see its cuz wardecs and supanerf em. Heard here 1st

People have the right to play the game in the safe manner they wish or in the conflict/dangerous way. You shouldn't be wanting to impose your belief of "conflict makes the game interesting" on people who say for instance-pay to play the game the way they wish which might actually be in the comfort zone.

Yay another buff to HiSec!!!!

This is the worst possible thinking.

In EVE, it doesn't matter what you WANT to do

And people said a single hisec rep[ would be useless and have no influence

bwa ha haaaaaa

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People have the right to play the game in the safe manner they wish or in the conflict/dangerous way. You shouldn't be wanting to impose your belief of "conflict makes the game interesting" on people who say for instance-pay to play the game the way they wish which might actually be in the comfort zone.

Ships blowing up always benifit the game. People produce ships, if ships didn't explode nothing any of us do in EVE would worth anything.

Awoxxing (like all such interactions) teaches players to be aware, to be concerned about who they trust. This is good because being able to trust everyone simply because you're in high sec and in the same corp is boring. Their is this tendency among some to wish for peace and comfort only to find that those things get boring after a while. It's conflict and danger that is interesting. This is why people leave EVE for 'safer' games only to come back when they realise that games without risk and danger is about as fun as riding a roller coaster that doesn't exceed 5 miles per hour.

This is why every epic, every good movie, every good book, every good game is about conflict. It's why real life news media types live by the rule of "if it bleeds it leads". These moves to make EVE safer are actually moves to make EVE a worse game.

The appeal of EVE to many of us was that there was supposed to be no comfort zone. Anyone that's looking for a comfort zone is playing the wrong game.

Looking for comfort zones in EVE is like getting in a plane but never taking off. Unfortunately, it seems that won't be the case for much longer. It looks like a day is coming where EVE will only be EVE by name, but the game it is/was will no longer exist.

EVE was originally created by people who didn't like the PVP restrictions in Ultima Online. Now they're going in a completely opposite direction, and handing it over to the same kinds of people who ruined Ultima.

I get that apart from the bit about playing the wrong game. Who are you to tell someone they are playing the wrong game? You can tell me how I can play when you pay for my subscription.

Not true by a long stretch of the imagination. I think you are being pretty ignorant to the great work CCP have done to ensure game play remains open.

Not really, they're just opening the idea of allowing people and corporations to protect themselves. Awoxing isn't PVP, just like suicide ganking, it's about tears.

Oh, and lul no this wont stop AWOXing. It also wont stop people joining to completely rob the corps. Though not sure why anyone would try to rob a highsec dweller corp. They are all poor as hell anyways.

Because you whine about parts of the game, that most people understand and feel perfectly okay with. No one likes a whiner.




No he's not. EVE is a game of villenary and conflict. IF they take away Awoxing, they remove a intergial part of the game, a part that encourages caution, and helps develop real trust in a video game. Many people in my corp could F*** me over, but they don't, and that makes a bond that KEEPS people in the game, far longer than a solo mission runner afraid that he might lose his Billion isk Navy Raven.

CCP even has a song, HTFU, What does that tell you about how they feel about the subject?


EVE is MEANT to be a game where you can be the bad guy. It encourages it. Taking this away is an active attempt to change that. If the Trend keeps going, theres no point for EVE to call itself a 'dark' mmo.




No. Tears are a by-product. Awoxing some corp, is about an expensive killmail, good loot, and maybe a ransom and hence a good payday. Some, not many, but some, people make Isk BY Awoxing.

Awoxing is totally Pvp as well, Its more PVP then just a random lowsec fight. It's a mindgame, you pitting yourself against a larger force than you, with what is probably a less than 5-mil alt. And totally wrecking.

Suicide ganking is also, the same. Tears are a by-product. You can make a fortune burning a freighter and getting a good drop.



So Sorry. But this is suppose to be a game with assholes, and people who **** you off.


If you don't like that, than HTFU,

And now the awoxxers have to lose a catalyst to concord once in a while. The sky is surely falling!

People have the right to play the game in the safe manner they wish or in the conflict/dangerous way.

You can tell me how I can play when you pay for my subscription.

CCP STILL OBLIVIOUS TO FACT NEUTRAL LOGI R/R IS BIGGEST "GRIEF" FACTOR IN AWOX

They got corp kick que. Just fix neut logi but giving corpmates a stupid engaugment timer. Then rr suspect fixed.
While keeping corp violnce. Evrrybody wins yo

I'm ready to unsub my accounts basically any time at this point.

No point in staying subbed... once EVE goes themepark it'll go the way of all the other themepark MMOs.

In it's place some other small, niche, dark game will pop up to satisfy people who actually enjoy hard games without having their hands held.

You're correct, but it should be up to those who wish to play the game in the "safe manner" to protect themselves from those that wish to play in the "conflict/dangerous manner". Jenn plays the game in the "safe manner", as do I; both of us take precautions to ensure that we don't become victims of those who play in the "conflict/dangerous manner".

Not getting ganked because you took measures to prevent it is as much PvP as ganking those who fail to take those measures.

That swings both ways my friend.

Curious, how do you safe guard yourself from lets says the idiotic ganking that is going on at the moment.

I don't fly freighters and JF's I use tanked T1 haulers and keep my cargo value below 3000isk/hp. If I have a valuable load to move I outsource the risk to Red Frog or PushX. I've got most of the known ganking groups set to show up in the overview as "evil bastages" via the standings mechanic, as well as being in some of their public chat channels for intel purposes. Most importantly I never use autopilot or go afk unless I'm cloaked or docked.

TL;DR I make somebody else an easier/ more desirable target.