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Carax
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.03 19:55:00 -
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I have just spent all day minining 0.4 sector for jaspet and had one of my alts ships blown out from under me in three shots and another one barricaded in a station so that it does not get shot at by the same jerks.
When I started playing you could mine in low sec and survive as long as you stayed alert. Nowerdays the jerks have got big ships with great weapons and unless you are also in a tank you are dead in five seconds.
It is killing the game, there should be a way to stop these killjoys, they can kill without any comeback. Alternatively create a new game for the boys who just want to shot everything and let them play with themselves.
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Bolt Crimson
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Posted - 2006.09.03 19:56:00 -
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No pain, no gain.
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Aeaus
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.09.03 19:57:00 -
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Uhm, how the heck do you manage to die in low security if you stay alert? I mean the only possible circumstance is taking a hauler into a gate camp without checking and getting sniped =/
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 19:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Carax
It is killing the game, there should be a way to stop these killjoys
There is a way, its requires less whining and more shooting the people shooting you. 
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Leilani Solaris
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.03 19:58:00 -
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Carax
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.03 19:59:00 -
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The point is it is difficult to shoot in a miner and flying my Apoc in is something of a waste, especially as I can not fit much ore in the hold.
Any better suggestions?
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Aeaus
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:00:00 -
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Ugh, so how did you lose your ship and how did you lose it?
Last I checked mining in low-sec isn't all that dangerous if you know what you're doing.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Carax
It is killing the game, there should be a way to stop these killjoys, they can kill without any comeback. Alternatively create a new game for the boys who just want to shot everything and let them play with themselves.
I think you are looking for a PVE server and Eve doesnt have one im afraid. WoW does. :)
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Carax
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:01:00 -
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So what about some tips for mining in low sec then Aeaus?
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VinLieger
Caldari
The Beiatch Corp Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:01:00 -
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Do you not check local? If a minus sec player enters the system its common sense to hide if your not tanked otherwise its your own fault
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Bolt Crimson
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:01:00 -
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What is your solution then? Give miners god mode? No PvP unless you got your PvP tag up(Like WoW)?
You do know, that this would not only ruin the pirates fun, but also the whole economy.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Carax
When I started playing you could mine in low sec and survive as long as you stayed alert.
What ever gave you that idea? Keep an eye on local, make instadocks, fit WCS and you can avoid most hostile encounters. However, the very nature of low-sec prevents any guarantee of safety no matter how many precautions you take.
If you can't hack getting blown up, go and mine kernite in high-sec. 
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Carax
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:04:00 -
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The pirates did not seem to have enjoyed it that much when I spoke to them. I could understand taking on a heavy assault ship or something else that could be a challenge but blowing up an indy, it's like popping a baloon.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Carax
The pirates did not seem to have enjoyed it that much when I spoke to them. I could understand taking on a heavy assault ship or something else that could be a challenge but blowing up an indy, it's like popping a baloon.
They dont do it for the challenge...its just fun to kill people. You should try it. :)
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:06:00 -
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Carax is a sad panda
Originally by: Carax
The pirates did not seem to have enjoyed it that much when I spoke to them. I could understand taking on a heavy assault ship or something else that could be a challenge but blowing up an indy, it's like popping a baloon.
Yeah, sort of like that, but with more lasers and smacktalk. And opening the can is like opening Christmas presents, but with less irritating wrapping paper, and no relatives ****ing you off. Also, you have no requirement to pretend you like the contents if it does not satisfy you.
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Lance Hawke
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:06:00 -
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LOL
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:10:00 -
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And I would like to point out that you made an error in the thread title. You wrote "ruiung". Clearly a typo: that word should not be there at all.
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Carax
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:13:00 -
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I stopped flying expensive ships, with lovely mods, into low sec because the risk of losing them was too great and the insurance did not even cover the cost of the ship. Now I fly cheap old ships with stuff all on and they still shoot.
You really think that the only solution is to try turning into a bully too?
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TressX
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:14:00 -
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Try training up to fly blockade runners they have incredible resistances and speed.
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:14:00 -
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lowsec... Carlos Mencia says: DUH DUH DUH!
Next time bring protection.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:14:00 -
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You could, you know... shoot back?
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Carax
Alternatively create a new game for the boys who just want to shot everything and let them play with themselves.
Actually, that's been done.
I hear it's very successful, but a bunch of idiots keep trying to get it changed to suit their needs 
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Arcterran
Amarr
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:18:00 -
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Are you mining in a heavily populated low sec system? If so, you may want to move, hostiles can hide amongst the crowd and jump on you before you've figured out who's who.
If you're mining in a backwater low sec system, then it's your own fault for not watching local and safespotting when someone jumps in.
Risk vs. reward.
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Carax
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:19:00 -
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Some helpful comments so far. I notice someone else has a problem with gate camping. Seems like I'm not the only one who thinks this game is too kind to rats.
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Kal Oman
Delta Desperados
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:21:00 -
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I am a miner too and I do not want solo-mining in lowsec to be risk free. This is where you and I get to PvP via proxy. I mine in low sec with a team and live. You mine in low sec solo and die. I get better prices for the minerals because you bring nothing to the market.
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Lucio
Gallente
Incorporated Holdings
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: Lucio on 03/09/2006 20:22:23
He does have a point, no matter how alert you are, a mining ship that isn't a fully tanked BS stands zero chance against a PvP setup and the haulers are also defenceless unless you have a top of the line T2 hauler.
Perhaps CCP should reduce damage across the system and make it more interesting for the victim rather than a foregone conclusion that the pirate always wins....
Originally by: Verus Potestas
You could, you know... shoot back?
Like hell he can! No efficiant or semi-effeciant mining build has enough modules left over to form an effective offense against PvP'ers.
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:23:00 -
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good suggestion
Get some friends as protectors. Many pirates wont shoot if they feel they are outnumbered. Friends doesnt mean alts on different clients thats like knocking one out your friend is your right hand.
Dont play with 3 clients open its hard to stay alert when u have to concentrate on more than one client.
Leave your noob corp and join a real corp one that will allow you to do things together a little like first suggestion really.
As for ruining the game this has been happening since the dawn of eve its stil,l in there and it hasnt ruined the game expect it still to be in game in 3 more years.
Finally if you dont want to get blown up because your 3 clients are too much to operate effectivly and you are not able to find friends becasue of some difficulty that is unforseen by myself then stick to high sec.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lucio
He does have a point, no matter how alert you are, a mining ship that isn't a fully tanked BS stands zero chance against a PvP setup and the haulers are also defenceless unless you have a top of the line T2 hauler.
Perhaps CCP should reduce damage across the system and make it more interesting for the victim rather than a foregone conclusion that the pirate always wins....
A well prepared pilot has no excuse to get caught by anything but a covert ops cloaked ship.
It's all a matter of how paranoid you are.
I'll give you a hint, for those among you with a veldspar complex: your ship has a scanner. It is not just an offensive tool.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Lucio
Originally by: Verus Potestas
You could, you know... shoot back?
Like hell he can! No efficiant or semi-effeciant mining build has enough modules left over to form an effective offense against PvP'ers.
You mean a combat ship beats an industrial ship? OH GOD NO! GAMEBREAKING ALERT! TO THE NERFMOBILE!
Back in the time I joined Eve, and my corp used to mount low sec mining ops, we had this word that seems to have fallen out of use now. It was "guards"
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Nymos
Celtic Anarchy
Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:27:00 -
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it's not like you HAVE to go to low-sec, right? if you do, expect to be shot at. why? because ppl can. because it's how they play the game. next time bring a friend or two in combat ships for protection. or when ninja mining learn how to use local and the scanner. so... yes, low-sec and 0.0 is contested space. the strongest one gets the pie. or the smartest one? or...? definetely those with guns.
and tbh you should know that being almost 2 years old. it's pretty difficult to solo around so might as well recruit ppl for your private corp or join a real one... and why does it ruin the game if it has been like that for years? 
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