And yet drone horde spawn rates are greater than sanctums O.o

QQ some moar?

CCP should just start with removing the top 3 high end ores from alloys, morphite, mega and zydrine. Or maybe only Morphite to go on at first.

Technicaly Drones are mechanical sort of terminators. Machines. When destroyed they should drop machine parts and whatever they carry.

These machine parts could be bought with buy ordersby npc station and concord station. Sort of tags. A nice storyline to add with it is that concord uses them to build their new ships with. So u can sell the parts to buy odes. Another part to help this is seeding a small NPC concord space in the drone region. All eve corners have npc stations exept co

Ok.

The Drone Regions have over time become the largest provider of minerals in the game, effectively killing off an entire profession (mining) and rendering the ships related to this profession increasingly pointless. Objectively, this is bad.

It is no secret that they are looking at fixing this problem by drastically altering or completely removing alloys to. They are taking the long view on this and are trying to satisfy its customers by offering a wide variety of activities across a wide variety of space. The current set-up of the drone regions hinders both of those and thus needs to change.

Whether the occupants of the drone regions like such a change is, objectively, almost irrelevant.

That's fine by me - please ensure this applies to all regions though. You'd be a naive little nipper if you thought the problem of botting within Eve is restricted to the drone regions.

There are 2 issues here; Making ISK in Drone regions & Alloy drops from drones.

This thread is all about making ISK in Drone regions. I don't care if pink elephants drop from drones as long as they're worth ISK and are comparable to sanctums in other regions.

I personally agree that minerals should come from mining. I also think that CCP should make changes to mining to minimise a) AFK mining and b) botting. By making the vast majority of all minerals available solely through mining the prices will go up; the risk and attention to game should go up as well.

Mine as much as you want and make loads of ISK, but don't read a book or watch a movie while doing it.

Not naive, you're the one who is...

You do realize that if you kill botting in other regions the amount of ISK floating around would diminish, thereby making #1 worse.

Split mining in 2 groups: high sec mining and 0.0 mining. U cant idle much in 0.0 or else u will get toasted by a fast frig.

0.0 mining should be the only provider of #1 ore and maybe in some degree #2&3 ores. With #1 i mean morphite (u have special ship and skills needed for it) and #2&3 megacyte and zydrine.

0.0 Mining is alot more dangerous (need more attention cant idle like in high sec, rat spawns does pop your hulk very very fast (they get in warp rly slow)) so should be paying out alot more than in safe high sec.

if drones were to not drop mins at all, they will need some other reason to actually do drone sites/missions at all cosue they are pretty much worthless atm to go after as is.

Demand has went up as well i'd be willing to wager since the drone regions were implemented. if it had been miners providing the minerals, and not the drone regions, prices would be even higher, actually making mining something worthwhile (albiet boring) to do.


TBH, just remove alloys from the drone regions, and give them bounties and random drops like everyone else. would go a long way towards fixing the flooded mineral market. I can't think of one GOOD argument against it.

I support you and your comment!!!

Everyone keeps complaining about drone alloys, and thus minerals, coming out of the drone regions. Ok, maybe it is causing lower mineral prices for you guys in high-sec, I imagine that's irritating.

BUT, when looking at all of the other 0.0 regions, you see that the drone regions have just been nerfed in terms of potential isk generation in comparison to any other 0.0 region that doesn't have drones. We don't get bounties, item drops worth anything(certainly no faction drops), exploration sites, and the salvage is crap. If you nerf hordes I think we should be compensated some other way.

Well... this all is about that.
Remove minerals from drones and give something else to drones that will have value that will not be influenced by mineral value.
That way all ppl are happy, miners and drone region guys.

should replace minerals with items that you can trade in for LPs from factions. will help reduce the isk faucet.

What in gods name were you thinking when you made it so that it is wave based rather than bunker triggered? You wait mark my words the amount of minerals supplied will drop from and the price shall rise!!!! I think Drone regions supply about 60-70% of the minerals in empire... poor poor idea and to think you were talking about "balancing" the anomalies.

There are two options from here 1. Change it back cause its not even know compared to the faction anomalies or 2. increase the amount dropped buy the drones to compensate the increase time it takes to kill them now and then salvage and loot...

Otherwise liking Crucible!!!

Will

I personally think mining is the most awful 'gameplay' you can willingly subject yourself to.

That said, miners really do need a break. Actual live miners, that is. As in, people who are at their keyboard, stoically weathering the crushing boredom as they harvest their minerals.

Yeah, those people could use a break.

mineral prices will rise. that's a good thing :)

And you will be happy until no-one buys from you cause miners can not supply the amount of minerals that are required in eve... silly slap dash answer try again.

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if drones didnt drop minerals more people would mine. making everything go up in price which will make a small isk sink because taxes go up (lol)
mining becomes a profession people can tolerate because of the good income.
nullsec might have mining ops and such nullbears are scared to mine though
people might venture into lowsec to mine if scouted and clear

if drones didnt drop minerals more people would mine. making everything go up in price which will make a small isk sink because taxes go up (lol)
mining becomes a profession people can tolerate because of the good income.
nullsec might have mining ops and such nullbears are scared to mine though
people might venture into lowsec to mine if scouted and clear

I dont see a problem here...
Lets make mining profession again.

LOL @CCP

This is perfect you "bugfixed" the bunker horde real good.

What was never a problem, as you stated, for us has now become a problem. The new improved and "fixed" horde bugs out the way you claimed the old not broken one did. Several days now we have sat with our 1 horde in system bugged so it wont re spawn after it is completed and wont fix it self till after downtime. Yes i have filed a bug report.

Way to go CCP top notch work.

So take care of it now and increase your output to be greater than the drone regions...