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Dark M00n	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:03:00 - [1] The old Amarr vs Minmatar war... The Maller aka Duramaller vs the Rupture.. These are both good ships, probably the best cruisers in the game. But which one is the best? Take note of each ships damage and tank capabilites, capacitor, EW (electronic warfare) as well as their overall act in PvP and PvE when listing your opinion
Aeaus Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:11:00 - [2] No contest for the Rupture, the Duramaller is easily one of the worst Tier III cruisers in the game. Join Tharsis! - Get Sexy Sigs
inSpirAcy The Solopwnmobiles	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:11:00 - [3] I don't even need to think about it, for my purposes it's the Rupture hands down. The Maller just can't put in the hurt with a reasonable fit. Sitting around tanking endlessly while tickling the enemy isn't much use in my line of work.
Rehmes	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:14:00 - [4] I would pick the rupture in a close fight...i wouldnt sell the maller short. Dmg isnt its problem, its the dmg type. If lasers had higher therm base dmg then ud have a more capable maller. Ofc along w less cap need for lasers. I think this is the only thing holding the amarians back. Back to topic its simple. Rupture uses fusion and there goes ur tank.......
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:44:00 - [5] Originally by: Aeaus No contest for the Rupture, the Duramaller is easily one of the worst Tier III cruisers in the game.
Lisento Slaven Amarr The Drekla Consortium New Eve Order	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:52:00 - [6] I had a Maller with web + scram + ab and 2 NOS in the highs (along with cruiser sized pulse lasers) and I beat a rupture once. My tank lasted longer than his could. He was using a close up setup of course with a MWD + Scram + Web. I think he only had one NOS. The tank on the maller can be useful but the ship just does not feel good in PVP at all. --- Lisento Slaven wants to be a Space Whaler in EVE. Put in space whales!
Rant Anplan	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:54:00 - [7] If you gimp your grid by using battleship armor plates on a cruiser then it comes to no surprise that you don't do any damage. The Maller is very flexible due to its extra low slot and the built in plate, so use that flexibility.
Dixon Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:55:00 - [8] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Originally by: Aeaus No contest for the Rupture, the Duramaller is easily one of the worst Tier III cruisers in the game. People often forget that the Moa is a tier III cruiser.. - - - - - - I have no strong feelings one way or the other...
twisted 1	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:55:00 - [9] well, best cruisers is: no particular order.. Thorax Rupture Blackbird Caracal(ew ftw!)
inSpirAcy The Solopwnmobiles	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:59:00 - [10] Originally by: Dixon People often forget that the Moa is a tier III cruiser..
Aeaus Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.09.10 20:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Dixon Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Originally by: Aeaus No contest for the Rupture, the Duramaller is easily one of the worst Tier III cruisers in the game. People often forget that the Moa is a tier III cruiser.. Notice how I said "easily one of..." the Moa has to have it's place somewhere. But I really am not sure if it's good or bad, I never used it or considered it, just assume it's fairly bad due to it's rather lacking damage output. Join Tharsis! - Get Sexy Sigs
Angus McLean	Posted - 2006.09.10 20:44:00 - [12] Originally by: twisted 1 well, best cruisers is: no particular order.. Thorax Rupture Blackbird Caracal(ew ftw!) Everyone please note the 75 page Amarr thread, and how another user on this forums just spelled out how bad Amarr's T1 ships are for you, not one ship makes it on the best list.
OhMyGodess Caldari Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.09.10 20:50:00 - [13] Vexor and Celestis are too well used btw not too much moa thought
Kuentai Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.09.10 21:03:00 - [14] Killed a cerb in my med pulse II, duel rep maller. So I wouldn't put it to one side as the worst tier 3 myself. - "The good man has few enemies, but the ruthless... None."
Zosimos Sabina Amarr Loot	Posted - 2006.09.10 21:11:00 - [15] Edited by: Zosimos Sabina on 10/09/2006 21:13:30 Edited by: Zosimos Sabina on 10/09/2006 21:11:27 Originally by: Kuentai Killed a cerb in my med pulse II, dual rep maller. So I wouldn't put it to one side as the worst tier 3 myself. I killed a Titan in an Ibis once. Rupture > Maller... It can fit almost as good a tank, while being faster, and while doing almost 40% more damage.
Vizgoth	Posted - 2006.09.10 21:14:00 - [16] Duramaller with autocannons if you are worried about damage type. Takes awhile to get to target but it tanks alot better. This is for pve, I am a carebear so do not know about pvp. Can do all lvl 3's with it while some struggle on lvl 3's with a BS
Dixon Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.10 21:53:00 - [17] Originally by: Aeaus Originally by: Dixon Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Originally by: Aeaus No contest for the Rupture, the Duramaller is easily one of the worst Tier III cruisers in the game. People often forget that the Moa is a tier III cruiser.. Notice how I said "easily one of..." the Moa has to have it's place somewhere. But I really am not sure if it's good or bad, I never used it or considered it, just assume it's fairly bad due to it's rather lacking damage output. I'm not saying you aren't right about that. I still think that while mentioning bad tier III cruisers one should never leave the Moa out. - - - - - - I have no strong feelings one way or the other...
HolographicEntrypoint The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.09.10 23:00:00 - [18] Rupture should win this one. --- ^ Custom Sigs for ISK My custom Sigs Gallery
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.09.10 23:01:00 - [19] Originally by: HolographicEntrypoint Rupture should win this one. New to the game eh?
Ituralde Fate.	Posted - 2006.09.10 23:37:00 - [20] Rupture wins. Those ACs swat hard and still allow for enough of a tank to deal with the weak-hitting overarmored Maller. Its a long fight (ive been in it =/) but the maller will go down 9 times out of 10. The maller is really a gang ship designed to play tank boy and anti-frigate support IMO. Fear is the mind-killer.
Phrixus Zephyr Singularity.	Posted - 2006.09.11 00:40:00 - [21] Originally by: twisted 1 well, best cruisers is: no particular order.. Thorax Rupture Blackbird Caracal(ew ftw!) + Vexor
Rehmes	Posted - 2006.09.11 01:55:00 - [22] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: twisted 1 well, best cruisers is: no particular order.. Thorax Rupture Blackbird Caracal(ew ftw!) + Vexor U forgot to put in the bellicose in that list
Lienzo Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.11 05:04:00 - [23] Easy. All things being equal in pilot know-how and ew, then statistically: One Rupture vs. One Maller - Rupture wins w/ or w/out any form of ew. 2-3 Ruptures vs. 2-3 Mallers - Mallers win. It's a simple matter of focused fire, range and tracking.
Gasi Kobayashi Naughty 40	Posted - 2006.09.11 05:43:00 - [24] DuraMallers are crap if you ask me ... i prefer 3 nos, 3 focused pulse, 1 med 1 small repairer and exp,kin,therm hardeners ... this is setup i use and i think i would beat rupture in this ----------- Please imagine picture of your choice here. Thank you, Gasi Kobayashi
OrangeAfroMan Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.09.11 07:47:00 - [25] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Originally by: Aeaus No contest for the Rupture, the Duramaller is easily one of the worst Tier III cruisers in the game. Ah thank god Famine's still around, you can expect an evemail with many questions from me soon ♥ Gronsak is Tux's angry alt.
Dark M00n	Posted - 2006.09.11 09:43:00 - [26] Originally by: Gasi Kobayashi DuraMallers are crap if you ask me ... i prefer 3 nos, 3 focused pulse, 1 med 1 small repairer and exp,kin,therm hardeners ... this is setup i use and i think i would beat rupture in this pls explain..you are for the Maller or the Rupture? Also, for solo 1 vs 1, you could fit a Maller with projectiles so that it won't drain your cap...what are the odds now? I think not so good for Rupture. As well, in order to take full advantage of the Rupture's versatility in damage (turrets and missiles) you should have lot more skills that you would need on a Maller. So here's my opinion, in gang, Maller definetly wins. In solo, you just need a good setup with the right skills. With the Rupture it's like this: lots of skills. With the Maller it's few skills but the right ones. So overall Maller wins - better tank, very good damage with autocannons, and all with fewer skills. And I would hardley name it the worse t1 lvl3 cruiser ingame. The Amarr are just a more elaborate race.
Arshes Nei Dark-Rising Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.11 11:49:00 - [27] Edited by: Arshes Nei on 11/09/2006 11:53:00 Originally by: Dark M00n Originally by: Gasi Kobayashi DuraMallers are crap if you ask me ... i prefer 3 nos, 3 focused pulse, 1 med 1 small repairer and exp,kin,therm hardeners ... this is setup i use and i think i would beat rupture in this pls explain..you are for the Maller or the Rupture? Also, for solo 1 vs 1, you could fit a Maller with projectiles so that it won't drain your cap...what are the odds now? I think not so good for Rupture. As well, in order to take full advantage of the Rupture's versatility in damage (turrets and missiles) you should have lot more skills that you would need on a Maller. So here's my opinion, in gang, Maller definetly wins. In solo, you just need a good setup with the right skills. With the Rupture it's like this: lots of skills. With the Maller it's few skills but the right ones. So overall Maller wins - better tank, very good damage with autocannons, and all with fewer skills. And I would hardley name it the worse t1 lvl3 cruiser ingame. The Amarr are just a more elaborate race. So you want to use ACs on a maller? Are you aware that the rupture actually gets a rof AND a damage bonus? If you call 5 ACs without any boni very good damage then how do you call ACs or blasters WITH damageboni? Not only does your maller less damage, it also has less nos and no drones. Never felt the urge to fly a maller tbh even though i have amarr cruiser 5, i rather take the rupture even though my skills for that ship are worse. Never once have i been in a situation with my rupture where i have thought "oh i wish i would be in a maller with ACs now ...", sad but true . You either sacrifice a nos or you sacrifice far too much damage, the drones alone are over 70dps you dont get not even to mention the worse damage its 5 ACs would have over the ruptures 4 ... And the skills needed for a maller and a rupture are basicly the same, why use missiles if you can use nos? You need a bit more skills to use the drones on the rupture granted, but even without them i would prefer the rupture. Edit: What you also completly overlooked is that your AC maller wont be able to get out of a thorax's optimal blaster range, while with a rupture i have a good chance of actually utilizing the superior falloff of my guns and the fact that i most likely have more med nos on me than most other cruisers.
jerrard iceni	Posted - 2006.09.11 12:31:00 - [28] Originally by: Rehmes Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: twisted 1 well, best cruisers is: no particular order.. Thorax Rupture Blackbird Caracal(ew ftw!) + Vexor U forgot to put in the bellicose in that list dont dis the belli! i have killed mallers and ruptures solo in a belli b4. the only ship in the above list i struggle to solo is the thorax
Heiken Wimast Amarr Clan LoKi Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.12 01:48:00 - [29] So title is Rupture vs Maller. While they are fighting with each other Thorax will come to arena and b"EAT" both of em and will leave for new adventures.
Dorque	Posted - 2006.09.12 02:11:00 - [30] Originally by: Heiken Wimast So title is Rupture vs Maller. While they are fighting with each other Thorax will come to arena and b"EAT" both of em and will leave for new adventures. Im assuming everyone is reffering to gankrax's?

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